Patriots Super Bowl ring

[Oldstyle]

If one takes a look at the history of the CBA in regards to fines and suspensions...there is simply no precedent for the fines and suspensions that were levied against the Patriots and Tom Brady for what MIGHT have been a minor infraction of the rules on equipment!

An independent arbitrator would have come to that conclusion rather quickly. Goodell should have never put himself in the position he now finds himself...if he decides to keep the four game suspension, Robert Kraft (his strongest supporter amongst the owners) will never view him in the same light...if he gives Brady no suspension then haters like Alex will scream bloody murder about Goodell's relationship with Kraft.

This is a lose - lose situation for the Commish. I can't believe he allowed himself to be painted into this corner.

 

[Alex.]

The CBA as it pertains to the hearing?

I apologize, I don't understand your question.

What will be addressed is whether the NFL followed the agreed to terms in the CBA. The court will not re-try the case.

I don't agree. If the NFL doesn't remove the suspension, it will go to federal court, the NFLPA will argue that the suspension violates the CBA. Because it violates the CBA, then the whole process should never have happened and Brady can't be suspended. The idea one team gets a warning letter, with no fines or suspensions, and another time there are fines and suspensions, shows the rules are not being applied equally or fairly. The argument can be made the NFL is singling out on person or team and that also violates the CBA.

What was the infraction that garnered a warning letter?

If you had read the links I provided you would know it was for tampering with their footballs during a game. They were heating them up in very cold weather, which tampers with the PSI and allows QBs to get a better grip and receivers an easier catch.

I also brought this out months ago and got accused of kissing Brady's ass, however giving one team a warning letter and suspending a player in another instance, where the rules don't even apply to player seems to be arbitrary.

I thought you may have been referring to a second time Minnesota got caught like the Patriots.
"this isn’t the first time the Patriots — and more specifically locker room attendant Jim McNally — have been accused of an incident involving illegal game balls. McNally, whose incriminating Brady-bashing text messages were included in the DeflateGate report, also came under NFL review in 2004 for allowing practice balls to be used during games. According to the Wells Report, a letter from then-NFL director of game operations Peter Hadhazy dated Nov. 2, 2004 said the incident involved New England ball boys relaying “non-approved practice balls to a game official” during an Oct. 25, 2004 regular-season game. (There actually was no game that day, but the Patriots did beat the New York Jets 13-7 on Oct. 24.)"

Wells Report NFL Warned Patriots In 2004 About Improper Game Footballs New England Patriots NESN.com


Repeat offenders and cheaters.

The Patriot way

 

[Alex.]

Alex doesn't care about OTHER players or other teams...he's got a thing about Tom Brady and the Patriots.

^^^^
Oldfartstyle waiting on line for a Patriots game hoping to be noticed by Tom Brady.

 

[Alex.]

If one takes a look at the history of the CBA in regards to fines and suspensions...there is simply no precedent for the fines and suspensions that were levied against the Patriots and Tom Brady for what MIGHT have been a minor infraction of the rules on equipment!

An independent arbitrator would have come to that conclusion rather quickly. Goodell should have never put himself in the position he now finds himself...if he decides to keep the four game suspension, Robert Kraft (his strongest supporter amongst the owners) will never view him in the same light...if he gives Brady no suspension then haters like Alex will scream bloody murder about Goodell's relationship with Kraft.

This is a lose - lose situation for the Commish. I can't believe he allowed himself to be painted into this corner.

Not a first offense for tampering with equipment, what do you have for the punishment in this instance?

 

[Oldstyle]

Alex doesn't care about OTHER players or other teams...he's got a thing about Tom Brady and the Patriots.

^^^^
Oldfartstyle waiting on line for a Patriots game hoping to be noticed by Tom Brady.

Damn, dude...right back to posting about men's junk? You are one twisted little puppy!

 

[Oldstyle]

I mean seriously...who keeps a picture like that one? Is it from your "private stash" of male genitalia pictures? Or did you spend a whole lot of time surfing the net to find that?

 

[Alex.]

Alex doesn't care about OTHER players or other teams...he's got a thing about Tom Brady and the Patriots.

^^^^
Oldfartstyle waiting on line for a Patriots game hoping to be noticed by Tom Brady.

Damn, dude...right back to posting about men's junk? You are one twisted little puppy!

Unlike you, I am not the one with a wistful smile and twinkle in his eye when Brady's name is mentioned

 

[Alex.]

I mean seriously...who keeps a picture like that one? Is it from your "private stash" of male genitalia pictures? Or did you spend a whole lot of time surfing the net to find that?

There you go living up to your statement, Oldstyle: "I PURPOSELY MISLEAD PEOPLE!!!"

 

[Papageorgio]

I apologize, I don't understand your question.

What will be addressed is whether the NFL followed the agreed to terms in the CBA. The court will not re-try the case.

I don't agree. If the NFL doesn't remove the suspension, it will go to federal court, the NFLPA will argue that the suspension violates the CBA. Because it violates the CBA, then the whole process should never have happened and Brady can't be suspended. The idea one team gets a warning letter, with no fines or suspensions, and another time there are fines and suspensions, shows the rules are not being applied equally or fairly. The argument can be made the NFL is singling out on person or team and that also violates the CBA.

What was the infraction that garnered a warning letter?

If you had read the links I provided you would know it was for tampering with their footballs during a game. They were heating them up in very cold weather, which tampers with the PSI and allows QBs to get a better grip and receivers an easier catch.

I also brought this out months ago and got accused of kissing Brady's ass, however giving one team a warning letter and suspending a player in another instance, where the rules don't even apply to player seems to be arbitrary.

I thought you may have been referring to a second time Minnesota got caught like the Patriots.
"this isn’t the first time the Patriots — and more specifically locker room attendant Jim McNally — have been accused of an incident involving illegal game balls. McNally, whose incriminating Brady-bashing text messages were included in the DeflateGate report, also came under NFL review in 2004 for allowing practice balls to be used during games. According to the Wells Report, a letter from then-NFL director of game operations Peter Hadhazy dated Nov. 2, 2004 said the incident involved New England ball boys relaying “non-approved practice balls to a game official” during an Oct. 25, 2004 regular-season game. (There actually was no game that day, but the Patriots did beat the New York Jets 13-7 on Oct. 24.)"

Wells Report NFL Warned Patriots In 2004 About Improper Game Footballs New England Patriots NESN.com


Repeat offenders and cheaters.

The Patriot way

Again, it is an equipment issue, not a player issue.

 

[Alex.]

What will be addressed is whether the NFL followed the agreed to terms in the CBA. The court will not re-try the case.

I don't agree. If the NFL doesn't remove the suspension, it will go to federal court, the NFLPA will argue that the suspension violates the CBA. Because it violates the CBA, then the whole process should never have happened and Brady can't be suspended. The idea one team gets a warning letter, with no fines or suspensions, and another time there are fines and suspensions, shows the rules are not being applied equally or fairly. The argument can be made the NFL is singling out on person or team and that also violates the CBA.

What was the infraction that garnered a warning letter?

If you had read the links I provided you would know it was for tampering with their footballs during a game. They were heating them up in very cold weather, which tampers with the PSI and allows QBs to get a better grip and receivers an easier catch.

I also brought this out months ago and got accused of kissing Brady's ass, however giving one team a warning letter and suspending a player in another instance, where the rules don't even apply to player seems to be arbitrary.

I thought you may have been referring to a second time Minnesota got caught like the Patriots.
"this isn’t the first time the Patriots — and more specifically locker room attendant Jim McNally — have been accused of an incident involving illegal game balls. McNally, whose incriminating Brady-bashing text messages were included in the DeflateGate report, also came under NFL review in 2004 for allowing practice balls to be used during games. According to the Wells Report, a letter from then-NFL director of game operations Peter Hadhazy dated Nov. 2, 2004 said the incident involved New England ball boys relaying “non-approved practice balls to a game official” during an Oct. 25, 2004 regular-season game. (There actually was no game that day, but the Patriots did beat the New York Jets 13-7 on Oct. 24.)"

Wells Report NFL Warned Patriots In 2004 About Improper Game Footballs New England Patriots NESN.com


Repeat offenders and cheaters.

The Patriot way

Again, it is an equipment issue, not a player issue.

Really how is the equipment separated from those who control it and does the NFL penalize the equipment in order to prevent further infractions.

 

[Papageorgio]

Alex, I am just telling you what I read and made the links for you to read.

If the NFL doesn't remove the suspensions, this will go to court, the NFLPA will help Brady.

The equipment is controlled by team personnel and league officials, it is all in the NFL rule book. At least the one I was reading.

 

[Alex.]

Alex, I am just telling you what I read and made the links for you to read.

If the NFL doesn't remove the suspensions, this will go to court, the NFLPA will help Brady.

The equipment is controlled by team personnel and league officials, it is all in the NFL rule book. At least the one I was reading.

The ruling was clear and has met the standard to rule against Brady. The NFL ruled against him based on the evidence available. He could have helped himself by cooperating.

 

[Oldstyle]

I mean seriously...who keeps a picture like that one? Is it from your "private stash" of male genitalia pictures? Or did you spend a whole lot of time surfing the net to find that?

There you go living up to your statement, Oldstyle: "I PURPOSELY MISLEAD PEOPLE!!!"

Gee, Alex...would you like to provide the post where I ever said that? Or would you like to admit that you have a habit of either taking things that people DO say totally out of context to give it a different meaning...or else (like that quote) totally making it up?

The two supposed quotes of mine at bottom of each of your posts simply illustrate what an unethical and sleazy person you are.

 

[Oldstyle]

Alex doesn't care about OTHER players or other teams...he's got a thing about Tom Brady and the Patriots.

^^^^
Oldfartstyle waiting on line for a Patriots game hoping to be noticed by Tom Brady.

Damn, dude...right back to posting about men's junk? You are one twisted little puppy!

Unlike you, I am not the one with a wistful smile and twinkle in his eye when Brady's name is mentioned

I'm not the one fixated on male genitalia, Alex...that would be you! You do it over and over and over and OVER again! Obviously it's an issue with you.

 

[Alex.]

I mean seriously...who keeps a picture like that one? Is it from your "private stash" of male genitalia pictures? Or did you spend a whole lot of time surfing the net to find that?

There you go living up to your statement, Oldstyle: "I PURPOSELY MISLEAD PEOPLE!!!"

Gee, Alex...would you like to provide the post where I ever said that? Or would you like to admit that you have a habit of either taking things that people DO say totally out of context to give it a different meaning...or else (like that quote) totally making it up?

.Stick to the OP

 

[Alex.]

Alex doesn't care about OTHER players or other teams...he's got a thing about Tom Brady and the Patriots.

^^^^
Oldfartstyle waiting on line for a Patriots game hoping to be noticed by Tom Brady.

Damn, dude...right back to posting about men's junk? You are one twisted little puppy!

Unlike you, I am not the one with a wistful smile and twinkle in his eye when Brady's name is mentioned

I'm not the one fixated on male genitalia, Alex...that would be you! You do it over and over and over and OVER again! Obviously it's an issue with you.

I knew you could not stay away from me. All your posts are designed to get a reaction from me.


Stick to the OP.

 

[Papageorgio]

Alex, I am just telling you what I read and made the links for you to read.

If the NFL doesn't remove the suspensions, this will go to court, the NFLPA will help Brady.

The equipment is controlled by team personnel and league officials, it is all in the NFL rule book. At least the one I was reading.

The ruling was clear and has met the standard to rule against Brady. The NFL ruled against him based on the evidence available. He could have helped himself by cooperating.

We will see. If the NFL doesn't drop the suspension, Brady goes to court and I think Brady will file an injunction and it will be granted and eventually the federal court will rule with Brady.

Just my opinion.

 

[Dot Com]

I mean seriously...who keeps a picture like that one? Is it from your "private stash" of male genitalia pictures? Or did you spend a whole lot of time surfing the net to find that?

There you go living up to your statement, Oldstyle: "I PURPOSELY MISLEAD PEOPLE!!!"

I know right?

 

[Dot Com]

I mean seriously...who keeps a picture like that one? Is it from your "private stash" of male genitalia pictures? Or did you spend a whole lot of time surfing the net to find that?

There you go living up to your statement, Oldstyle: "I PURPOSELY MISLEAD PEOPLE!!!"

Gee, Alex...would you like to provide the post where I ever said that? Or would you like to admit that you have a habit of either taking things that people DO say totally out of context to give it a different meaning...or else (like that quote) totally making it up?

.Stick to the OP

Thank you

 

[Alex.]

I mean seriously...who keeps a picture like that one? Is it from your "private stash" of male genitalia pictures? Or did you spend a whole lot of time surfing the net to find that?

There you go living up to your statement, Oldstyle: "I PURPOSELY MISLEAD PEOPLE!!!"

I know right?

I am beginning to think he has a man thing for me. All he wants to do is discuss man private parts. He will not leave me alone to discuss the OP.