Patriots Super Bowl ring

[LA RAM FAN]

And then you go right back to the stupid videos...why even bother, Dude? You've got nothing...

I got you crying every time I post something or you attempting to ignore substantive posts. The team and it's employees are the worst offenders of the NFL.


Emmanuel Sanders response to a young child at a youth football camp at Valor Christian High School

"Am I mad about Deflategate? I feel like I'm on ESPN with that question...Yeah, yeah, I'm kind of mad. I don't think that they should be the Super Bowl champion this year. You aren't supposed to cheat. Cheating is not good, especially when you've got guys who are working their butts off for 365 days out of the year and one person cheats – whether it helps them win the Super Bowl or not, they still cheated and shouldn't be a champion."
Emmanuel Sanders Says Patriots Shouldn t Be Super Bowl Champs After Deflategate Bleacher Report

This trickle down effect has the football world wiping Brady's butt and cleaning up the mess left by the Patriots. A sad story and dark time for the NFL. The message for today's youth is cheaters do prosper. Very sad for those who are honest and are doing the right thing for these kids.

yep he goes into crying mode everytime his idol is exposed.lol

apparently Brady met with Goodel for Goodel to hear his case for 10 hours.Obviously they were desperate in those 10 hours trying to think of answers to use to the media for his cheating. trying to think of lies to use.hee hee.

Brady s appeal hearing with Goodell lasts over 10 hours CSN Bay Area


hey alex,dot, do me a favor.ask Huggy if he doesnt feel like a jackass now for insisting the Rams were never coming back to LA.take a look at this article below.

one thing that article holds back and does not mention is both venues have said the raiders are not welcome for their temporary use for two years..thats the LAMESTREAM media reporting for ya.

The Rams have a verbal agreement with USC and Coliseum officials, its been like that for over a month.

NFL pursues temporary venues in LA for 2016 season CSN Bay Area

I hope they get back in and settled. Need a good home to do the job properly.

Yeah I cant wait till next year when USMB's resident troll,trollstyles wife rightwinger,what he has to say when the raiders are not in LA next year.

this troll rightwinger is trollstyles wife no doubt since he is like him and never able to admit it when he has been proven wrong.

He came on my thread and trolled there posting pics saying LOS ANGELES RAIDERS 2016,LOS ANGELES CHARGERS 2016, Funny he has these fantasies that the Raiders would even have a prayer of being there next year when both USC and UCLA "who have the right to choose the team,"said this past summer,the raiders wont be welcomed to use their facilitys.

when that happens next year,just watch,he will do what trollstyle always does when proven wrong,evade the question and change the topic.he is a clone of trollstyle.


Now back to Brady,I wonder how many lies him and Goodell discussed the other day on what lies they would try and invent when confronting the media.it took them ten hours to try and come up with a plan.

There are several version on how impressed the NFL was with Brady's rendition of what occurred. It is all spin any way you look at it. This all could have been avoided if Brady had the balls to face his accusers within the rules set out on the CBA instead he created this league size temper tantrum and single-handedly placed an asterisk next to his name as the greatest ever.

yeah with his lying and belicheats history,i see those two having the same problems that mcguire,sosa, bonds,and clemons have have had getting anywhere near enough votes to get into the hall of fame.i see them having that same problem in the future.

 

[Oldstyle]

And then you go right back to the stupid videos...why even bother, Dude? You've got nothing...

I got you crying every time I post something or you attempting to ignore substantive posts. The team and it's employees are the worst offenders of the NFL.


Emmanuel Sanders response to a young child at a youth football camp at Valor Christian High School

"Am I mad about Deflategate? I feel like I'm on ESPN with that question...Yeah, yeah, I'm kind of mad. I don't think that they should be the Super Bowl champion this year. You aren't supposed to cheat. Cheating is not good, especially when you've got guys who are working their butts off for 365 days out of the year and one person cheats – whether it helps them win the Super Bowl or not, they still cheated and shouldn't be a champion."
Emmanuel Sanders Says Patriots Shouldn t Be Super Bowl Champs After Deflategate Bleacher Report

This trickle down effect has the football world wiping Brady's butt and cleaning up the mess left by the Patriots. A sad story and dark time for the NFL. The message for today's youth is cheaters do prosper. Very sad for those who are honest and are doing the right thing for these kids.

yep he goes into crying mode everytime his idol is exposed.lol

apparently Brady met with Goodel for Goodel to hear his case for 10 hours.Obviously they were desperate in those 10 hours trying to think of answers to use to the media for his cheating. trying to think of lies to use.hee hee.

Brady s appeal hearing with Goodell lasts over 10 hours CSN Bay Area


hey alex,dot, do me a favor.ask Huggy if he doesnt feel like a jackass now for insisting the Rams were never coming back to LA.take a look at this article below.

one thing that article holds back and does not mention is both venues have said the raiders are not welcome for their temporary use for two years..thats the LAMESTREAM media reporting for ya.

The Rams have a verbal agreement with USC and Coliseum officials, its been like that for over a month.

NFL pursues temporary venues in LA for 2016 season CSN Bay Area

I hope they get back in and settled. Need a good home to do the job properly.

Yeah I cant wait till next year when USMB's resident troll,trollstyles wife rightwinger,what he has to say when the raiders are not in LA next year.

this troll rightwinger is trollstyles wife no doubt since he is like him and never able to admit it when he has been proven wrong.

He came on my thread and trolled there posting pics saying LOS ANGELES RAIDERS 2016,LOS ANGELES CHARGERS 2016, Funny he has these fantasies that the Raiders would even have a prayer of being there next year when both USC and UCLA "who have the right to choose the team,"said this past summer,the raiders wont be welcomed to use their facilitys.

when that happens next year,just watch,he will do what trollstyle always does when proven wrong,evade the question and change the topic.he is a clone of trollstyle.


Now back to Brady,I wonder how many lies him and Goodell discussed the other day on what lies they would try and invent when confronting the media.it took them ten hours to try and come up with a plan.

There are several version on how impressed the NFL was with Brady's rendition of what occurred. It is all spin any way you look at it. This all could have been avoided if Brady had the balls to face his accusers within the rules set out on the CBA instead he created this league size temper tantrum and single-handedly placed an asterisk next to his name as the greatest ever.

What's the deal with that latest addition to the bottom of your posts, Alex? You're making things up now and attributing them to me as a quote? Or because you spelled my name incorrectly...do you think that absolves you of blame for sleaziness?

 

[Oldstyle]

Just one more example of how fast and loose you're willing to play with the truth...while you accuse someone else of being a liar!

 

[Alex.]

I got you crying every time I post something or you attempting to ignore substantive posts. The team and it's employees are the worst offenders of the NFL.


Emmanuel Sanders response to a young child at a youth football camp at Valor Christian High School

"Am I mad about Deflategate? I feel like I'm on ESPN with that question...Yeah, yeah, I'm kind of mad. I don't think that they should be the Super Bowl champion this year. You aren't supposed to cheat. Cheating is not good, especially when you've got guys who are working their butts off for 365 days out of the year and one person cheats – whether it helps them win the Super Bowl or not, they still cheated and shouldn't be a champion."
Emmanuel Sanders Says Patriots Shouldn t Be Super Bowl Champs After Deflategate Bleacher Report

This trickle down effect has the football world wiping Brady's butt and cleaning up the mess left by the Patriots. A sad story and dark time for the NFL. The message for today's youth is cheaters do prosper. Very sad for those who are honest and are doing the right thing for these kids.

yep he goes into crying mode everytime his idol is exposed.lol

apparently Brady met with Goodel for Goodel to hear his case for 10 hours.Obviously they were desperate in those 10 hours trying to think of answers to use to the media for his cheating. trying to think of lies to use.hee hee.

Brady s appeal hearing with Goodell lasts over 10 hours CSN Bay Area


hey alex,dot, do me a favor.ask Huggy if he doesnt feel like a jackass now for insisting the Rams were never coming back to LA.take a look at this article below.

one thing that article holds back and does not mention is both venues have said the raiders are not welcome for their temporary use for two years..thats the LAMESTREAM media reporting for ya.

The Rams have a verbal agreement with USC and Coliseum officials, its been like that for over a month.

NFL pursues temporary venues in LA for 2016 season CSN Bay Area

I hope they get back in and settled. Need a good home to do the job properly.

Yeah I cant wait till next year when USMB's resident troll,trollstyles wife rightwinger,what he has to say when the raiders are not in LA next year.

this troll rightwinger is trollstyles wife no doubt since he is like him and never able to admit it when he has been proven wrong.

He came on my thread and trolled there posting pics saying LOS ANGELES RAIDERS 2016,LOS ANGELES CHARGERS 2016, Funny he has these fantasies that the Raiders would even have a prayer of being there next year when both USC and UCLA "who have the right to choose the team,"said this past summer,the raiders wont be welcomed to use their facilitys.

when that happens next year,just watch,he will do what trollstyle always does when proven wrong,evade the question and change the topic.he is a clone of trollstyle.


Now back to Brady,I wonder how many lies him and Goodell discussed the other day on what lies they would try and invent when confronting the media.it took them ten hours to try and come up with a plan.

There are several version on how impressed the NFL was with Brady's rendition of what occurred. It is all spin any way you look at it. This all could have been avoided if Brady had the balls to face his accusers within the rules set out on the CBA instead he created this league size temper tantrum and single-handedly placed an asterisk next to his name as the greatest ever.

What's the deal with that latest addition to the bottom of your posts, Alex? You're making things up now and attributing them to me as a quote? Or because you spelled my name incorrectly...do you think that absolves you of blame for sleaziness?

LOL you said that, how about addressing the topic in the OP

 

[Alex.]

Just one more example of how fast and loose you're willing to play with the truth...while you accuse someone else of being a liar!

You post this type of nonsense when you start to have a meltdown. What are you talking about?

 

[Oldstyle]

Just one more example of how fast and loose you're willing to play with the truth...while you accuse someone else of being a liar!

You post this type of nonsense when you start to have a meltdown. What are you talking about?

Oldstyle:"When the "room" contains, myself...then YES...I'm the smartest guy in the room!"

Oldstyle: "I PURPOSELY MISLEAD PEOPLE!!!"

Ah, that would be what I'm talking about, Alex...just one more example of how sleazy a poster you are.

 

[Oldstyle]

I think it's only fair that since Alex has taken it upon himself to address me with less than respectful nicknames like "OldFartStyle" that I bestow a fitting nickname on him...

Since Alex is totally fascinated with Tom Brady's "package"...I think an appropriate name for him would be "Phallics".

 

[Alex.]

Just one more example of how fast and loose you're willing to play with the truth...while you accuse someone else of being a liar!

You post this type of nonsense when you start to have a meltdown. What are you talking about?

Oldstyle:"When the "room" contains, myself...then YES...I'm the smartest guy in the room!"

Oldstyle: "I PURPOSELY MISLEAD PEOPLE!!!"

Ah, that would be what I'm talking about, Alex...just one more example of how sleazy a poster you are.

Well you did say those things. yes or no? I understand your need to talk when you have these episodes, which are happening almost daily now. I am here to listen and respond and make your journey a little easier in the Brady/Patriot cheater thread.

 

[Alex.]

I think it's only fair that since Alex has taken it upon himself to address me with less than respectful nicknames like "OldFartStyle" that I bestow a fitting nickname on him...

Since Alex is totally fascinated with Tom Brady's "package"...I think an appropriate name for him would be "Phallics".

I have spoken of Brady's balls in the same context as the NFL investigation. You are the one who claims to know Brady so well from watching him perform in public that you know his "personality" and that you know his wife and their life that I you claim I am jealous. I have no fascination with Brady's testes which you have discussed ad nauseam. This is part and parcel of your meltdowns and no I do not accept your invitation to discuss another man' reproductive organs.



I would like to talk about the suspension, hearing and appeal if you would like.

 

[Oldstyle]

Just one more example of how fast and loose you're willing to play with the truth...while you accuse someone else of being a liar!

You post this type of nonsense when you start to have a meltdown. What are you talking about?

Oldstyle:"When the "room" contains, myself...then YES...I'm the smartest guy in the room!"

Oldstyle: "I PURPOSELY MISLEAD PEOPLE!!!"

Ah, that would be what I'm talking about, Alex...just one more example of how sleazy a poster you are.

Well you did say those things. yes or no? I understand your need to talk when you have these episodes, which are happening almost daily now. I am here to listen and respond and make your journey a little easier in the Brady/Patriot cheater thread.

You've taken things that I have said...edited them in a rather pathetic attempt to give them a different meaning and then put them in quotes with my name attached. It's a sleazy thing to do...the kind of thing that is done by people that are lacking in scruples. The fact that you do such things in a string in which you rant about someone else being dishonest is the height of hypocrisy. It's called being a dick!

That's what makes you "Phallics" instead of Alex.

 

[Alex.]

Just one more example of how fast and loose you're willing to play with the truth...while you accuse someone else of being a liar!

You post this type of nonsense when you start to have a meltdown. What are you talking about?

Oldstyle:"When the "room" contains, myself...then YES...I'm the smartest guy in the room!"

Oldstyle: "I PURPOSELY MISLEAD PEOPLE!!!"

Ah, that would be what I'm talking about, Alex...just one more example of how sleazy a poster you are.

Well you did say those things. yes or no? I understand your need to talk when you have these episodes, which are happening almost daily now. I am here to listen and respond and make your journey a little easier in the Brady/Patriot cheater thread.

You've taken things that I have said...edited them in a rather pathetic attempt to give them a different meaning and then put them in quotes with my name attached. It's a sleazy thing to do...the kind of thing that is done by people that are lacking in scruples. The fact that you do such things in a string in which you rant about someone else being dishonest is the height of hypocrisy. It's called being a dick!

That's what makes you "Phallics" instead of Alex.

No matter how hard you try to derail this thread what remains is that the Patriots were fined a million bucks and several high draft picks for their role in Deflategate. As is stands today your hero Tom Brady was levied a 4 game suspension for his role in Deflategate. Although, his suspension may be reduced or reversed he will always be known as a cheater and a liar.

The bright side is that with the recent Supreme Court ruling you can keep that candle lit in the window for Brady. He may find you and fulfill all your secret wishes.

 

[ChrisL]

Just one more example of how fast and loose you're willing to play with the truth...while you accuse someone else of being a liar!

You post this type of nonsense when you start to have a meltdown. What are you talking about?

Oldstyle:"When the "room" contains, myself...then YES...I'm the smartest guy in the room!"

Oldstyle: "I PURPOSELY MISLEAD PEOPLE!!!"

Ah, that would be what I'm talking about, Alex...just one more example of how sleazy a poster you are.

Well you did say those things. yes or no? I understand your need to talk when you have these episodes, which are happening almost daily now. I am here to listen and respond and make your journey a little easier in the Brady/Patriot cheater thread.

You've taken things that I have said...edited them in a rather pathetic attempt to give them a different meaning and then put them in quotes with my name attached. It's a sleazy thing to do...the kind of thing that is done by people that are lacking in scruples. The fact that you do such things in a string in which you rant about someone else being dishonest is the height of hypocrisy. It's called being a dick!

That's what makes you "Phallics" instead of Alex.

No matter how hard you try to derail this thread what remains is that the Patriots were fined a million bucks and several high draft picks for their role in Deflategate. As is stands today your hero Tom Brady was levied a 4 game suspension for his role in Deflategate. Although, his suspension may be reduced or reversed he will always be known as a cheater and a liar.

The bright side is that with the recent Supreme Court ruling you can keep that candle lit in the window for Brady. He may find you and fulfill all your secret wishes.

Grow up, Alex.

 

[Alex.]

You post this type of nonsense when you start to have a meltdown. What are you talking about?

Oldstyle:"When the "room" contains, myself...then YES...I'm the smartest guy in the room!"

Oldstyle: "I PURPOSELY MISLEAD PEOPLE!!!"

Ah, that would be what I'm talking about, Alex...just one more example of how sleazy a poster you are.

Well you did say those things. yes or no? I understand your need to talk when you have these episodes, which are happening almost daily now. I am here to listen and respond and make your journey a little easier in the Brady/Patriot cheater thread.

You've taken things that I have said...edited them in a rather pathetic attempt to give them a different meaning and then put them in quotes with my name attached. It's a sleazy thing to do...the kind of thing that is done by people that are lacking in scruples. The fact that you do such things in a string in which you rant about someone else being dishonest is the height of hypocrisy. It's called being a dick!

That's what makes you "Phallics" instead of Alex.

No matter how hard you try to derail this thread what remains is that the Patriots were fined a million bucks and several high draft picks for their role in Deflategate. As is stands today your hero Tom Brady was levied a 4 game suspension for his role in Deflategate. Although, his suspension may be reduced or reversed he will always be known as a cheater and a liar.

The bright side is that with the recent Supreme Court ruling you can keep that candle lit in the window for Brady. He may find you and fulfill all your secret wishes.

Grow up, Alex.

Get sober Chris

 

[ChrisL]

Oldstyle:"When the "room" contains, myself...then YES...I'm the smartest guy in the room!"

Oldstyle: "I PURPOSELY MISLEAD PEOPLE!!!"

Ah, that would be what I'm talking about, Alex...just one more example of how sleazy a poster you are.

Well you did say those things. yes or no? I understand your need to talk when you have these episodes, which are happening almost daily now. I am here to listen and respond and make your journey a little easier in the Brady/Patriot cheater thread.

You've taken things that I have said...edited them in a rather pathetic attempt to give them a different meaning and then put them in quotes with my name attached. It's a sleazy thing to do...the kind of thing that is done by people that are lacking in scruples. The fact that you do such things in a string in which you rant about someone else being dishonest is the height of hypocrisy. It's called being a dick!

That's what makes you "Phallics" instead of Alex.

No matter how hard you try to derail this thread what remains is that the Patriots were fined a million bucks and several high draft picks for their role in Deflategate. As is stands today your hero Tom Brady was levied a 4 game suspension for his role in Deflategate. Although, his suspension may be reduced or reversed he will always be known as a cheater and a liar.

The bright side is that with the recent Supreme Court ruling you can keep that candle lit in the window for Brady. He may find you and fulfill all your secret wishes.

Grow up, Alex.

Get sober Chris

Fortunately for me, I'm always sober. This is just another example of you showing your ignorance and childishness. Grow up. This is why you can't find a woman!

 

[Oldstyle]

Just one more example of how fast and loose you're willing to play with the truth...while you accuse someone else of being a liar!

You post this type of nonsense when you start to have a meltdown. What are you talking about?

Oldstyle:"When the "room" contains, myself...then YES...I'm the smartest guy in the room!"

Oldstyle: "I PURPOSELY MISLEAD PEOPLE!!!"

Ah, that would be what I'm talking about, Alex...just one more example of how sleazy a poster you are.

Well you did say those things. yes or no? I understand your need to talk when you have these episodes, which are happening almost daily now. I am here to listen and respond and make your journey a little easier in the Brady/Patriot cheater thread.

You've taken things that I have said...edited them in a rather pathetic attempt to give them a different meaning and then put them in quotes with my name attached. It's a sleazy thing to do...the kind of thing that is done by people that are lacking in scruples. The fact that you do such things in a string in which you rant about someone else being dishonest is the height of hypocrisy. It's called being a dick!

That's what makes you "Phallics" instead of Alex.

No matter how hard you try to derail this thread what remains is that the Patriots were fined a million bucks and several high draft picks for their role in Deflategate. As is stands today your hero Tom Brady was levied a 4 game suspension for his role in Deflategate. Although, his suspension may be reduced or reversed he will always be known as a cheater and a liar.

The bright side is that with the recent Supreme Court ruling you can keep that candle lit in the window for Brady. He may find you and fulfill all your secret wishes.

If his suspension is reversed then it's hard to see how Brady will be known as a cheater and a liar...unless of course you're someone who's hatred of Tom Brady makes you not care about the truth...which basically sums you right up, Phallics!

Do you have these dreams about Tom Brady fulfilling secret wishes often, Phallics? Does it make you wake up all hot and sweaty?

 

[Oldstyle]

Well you did say those things. yes or no? I understand your need to talk when you have these episodes, which are happening almost daily now. I am here to listen and respond and make your journey a little easier in the Brady/Patriot cheater thread.

You've taken things that I have said...edited them in a rather pathetic attempt to give them a different meaning and then put them in quotes with my name attached. It's a sleazy thing to do...the kind of thing that is done by people that are lacking in scruples. The fact that you do such things in a string in which you rant about someone else being dishonest is the height of hypocrisy. It's called being a dick!

That's what makes you "Phallics" instead of Alex.

No matter how hard you try to derail this thread what remains is that the Patriots were fined a million bucks and several high draft picks for their role in Deflategate. As is stands today your hero Tom Brady was levied a 4 game suspension for his role in Deflategate. Although, his suspension may be reduced or reversed he will always be known as a cheater and a liar.

The bright side is that with the recent Supreme Court ruling you can keep that candle lit in the window for Brady. He may find you and fulfill all your secret wishes.

Grow up, Alex.

Get sober Chris

Fortunately for me, I'm always sober. This is just another example of you showing your ignorance and childishness. Grow up. This is why you can't find a woman!

It's not that Phallics can't find one, Chris...the problem is they won't stay with him because all he wants to talk about is Tom Brady's balls! That and "secret wishes".

 

[Alex.]

Well you did say those things. yes or no? I understand your need to talk when you have these episodes, which are happening almost daily now. I am here to listen and respond and make your journey a little easier in the Brady/Patriot cheater thread.

You've taken things that I have said...edited them in a rather pathetic attempt to give them a different meaning and then put them in quotes with my name attached. It's a sleazy thing to do...the kind of thing that is done by people that are lacking in scruples. The fact that you do such things in a string in which you rant about someone else being dishonest is the height of hypocrisy. It's called being a dick!

That's what makes you "Phallics" instead of Alex.

No matter how hard you try to derail this thread what remains is that the Patriots were fined a million bucks and several high draft picks for their role in Deflategate. As is stands today your hero Tom Brady was levied a 4 game suspension for his role in Deflategate. Although, his suspension may be reduced or reversed he will always be known as a cheater and a liar.

The bright side is that with the recent Supreme Court ruling you can keep that candle lit in the window for Brady. He may find you and fulfill all your secret wishes.

Grow up, Alex.

Get sober Chris

Fortunately for me, I'm always sober. This is just another example of you showing your ignorance and childishness. Grow up. This is why you can't find a woman!

I see your stay at McClean has not helped you much. Wet Brain is a terrible thing to deal with, I will pray for you that go through the 12 steps and recover.

 

[Alex.]

You've taken things that I have said...edited them in a rather pathetic attempt to give them a different meaning and then put them in quotes with my name attached. It's a sleazy thing to do...the kind of thing that is done by people that are lacking in scruples. The fact that you do such things in a string in which you rant about someone else being dishonest is the height of hypocrisy. It's called being a dick!

That's what makes you "Phallics" instead of Alex.

No matter how hard you try to derail this thread what remains is that the Patriots were fined a million bucks and several high draft picks for their role in Deflategate. As is stands today your hero Tom Brady was levied a 4 game suspension for his role in Deflategate. Although, his suspension may be reduced or reversed he will always be known as a cheater and a liar.

The bright side is that with the recent Supreme Court ruling you can keep that candle lit in the window for Brady. He may find you and fulfill all your secret wishes.

Grow up, Alex.

Get sober Chris

Fortunately for me, I'm always sober. This is just another example of you showing your ignorance and childishness. Grow up. This is why you can't find a woman!

It's not that Phallics can't find one, Chris...the problem is they won't stay with him because all he wants to talk about is Tom Brady's balls! That and "secret wishes".

LOL Fail OFS You have shown here many times that you are the USMB FLUFFER for Tom Brady.

 

[Alex.]

You post this type of nonsense when you start to have a meltdown. What are you talking about?

Oldstyle:"When the "room" contains, myself...then YES...I'm the smartest guy in the room!"

Oldstyle: "I PURPOSELY MISLEAD PEOPLE!!!"

Ah, that would be what I'm talking about, Alex...just one more example of how sleazy a poster you are.

Well you did say those things. yes or no? I understand your need to talk when you have these episodes, which are happening almost daily now. I am here to listen and respond and make your journey a little easier in the Brady/Patriot cheater thread.

You've taken things that I have said...edited them in a rather pathetic attempt to give them a different meaning and then put them in quotes with my name attached. It's a sleazy thing to do...the kind of thing that is done by people that are lacking in scruples. The fact that you do such things in a string in which you rant about someone else being dishonest is the height of hypocrisy. It's called being a dick!

That's what makes you "Phallics" instead of Alex.

No matter how hard you try to derail this thread what remains is that the Patriots were fined a million bucks and several high draft picks for their role in Deflategate. As is stands today your hero Tom Brady was levied a 4 game suspension for his role in Deflategate. Although, his suspension may be reduced or reversed he will always be known as a cheater and a liar.

The bright side is that with the recent Supreme Court ruling you can keep that candle lit in the window for Brady. He may find you and fulfill all your secret wishes.

If his suspension is reversed then it's hard to see how Brady will be known as a cheater and a liar...unless of course you're someone who's hatred of Tom Brady makes you not care about the truth...which basically sums you right up, Phallics!

Do you have these dreams about Tom Brady fulfilling secret wishes often, Phallics? Does it make you wake up all hot and sweaty?

Seems clear to everyone especially Patriots fans that Krapt sold Tommy and his legacy out when he agreed to the fine and draft loss for Deflatgate they are forever branded as cheaters and liars.

 

[HUGGY]

Too vague. Not enough information. If I had Green Bay and Rodgers went down I would pick Wilson before Brady in a heartbeat. If I had Indy and Luck was less than lucky I would probably take Brady over Wilson as the Colts are a pocket style offense. I would take many QBs over Brady as a pocket QB in certain situations. Breeze, J. Elway, The guy in Atlanta, There are only a small handfull of QBs in the NFL that do what Wilson does.. Rodgers, The Panthers QB..that may be it. Of those Wilson is clearly the best. Rodgers can throw on the run very well but nobody extends plays like Wilson..nobody. Rodgers is recognized as better than Wilson by many pundits but I believe that is because he throws very well in the pocket..much better than Wilson.

Brady and Belichick are very good at finding weaknesses in other teams defenses and exploiting them. I would have to say that the schemes NE deploys has as much or more to do with Brady's success as Tom's ability. It would be very hard to replace either Brady or Wilson. Coaching a new QB to perform Belichicks offensive schemes would be very hard. Finding a QB to do what Wilson does just couldn't be done. Travaris Jackson has had a lot of success when asked to play. As a backup his stats are through the roof. He has NOT been asked to carry a team on his back recently though. His W/L record was average to below average when he was the starter in Seattle a few years ago.

I haven't looked to see the stats when Brady .is on I/R. My guess is that NE sucks without Tom at the helm.

Brady went down for an entire season and the Patriots with Cassell at the helm won ten games.

You'd take Matt Ryan over Tom Brady? Wow...I mean WOW! That's why you're posting here instead of running an NFL team, Huggy. Just saying...

Good point. The Patriots team is usually well stocked. They can win 10 in a season without Brady. Ya...Matty Ice USED to have some good seasons. Maybe throwing his name in the ring was a stretch. Three years ago he played for the NFC championship. Lately not so much.

Maybe, Huggy? Look, I've always rooted for Matty Ice because he was a BC guy and came across as a good egg but he's not even in the discussion when it comes to elite NFL quarterbacks...he's simple a decent QB that has flashes of brilliance from time to time.

If I were starting an NFL franchise in a cold weather city then there are really only two quarterbacks that are head and shoulders above the rest when it comes to playing in inclement weather...one is Tom Brady and the other is Aaron Rogers. As much as I respect Peyton Manning...I've never viewed him as a great quarterback when game time temperatures go below freezing. Just looking at his face lets you know that he's not happy playing outside in the cold. Russell Wilson has the tools to be a third addition to that duo...I've simply not seen enough from him yet to give him that kind of status.

I agree about Wilson not being in the conversation as an elite cold weather QB. He just does not have a history that I am aware of in the snow and ice. He did play a season for Wisconsin though. Took em to a Rose Bowl. Not bad for a first year QB. He still had one more year of eligibility left and seeing how his coach at NC left the team. Not too bad a learning curve to just show up and succeed like that.

I'm not one of those that believes Wilson is an "elite" QB in how most pundits rate an elite. I don't believe what a QB does in any current year has anything to do with his history. Brady has an elite history. Wilson also has an elite history as much as a rookie can step in and his first three years run can be quantified and measured up against the first three years of all the preceding QBs that have come along. Neither Brady's many years or Wilson's three will get so much as a first down this season. Seattle and NE match up well against the opponents in their respective divisions. Both Seattle and NE have a decent stable of receivers for Wilson and Brady to throw to. Seattle gets the nod on defense if the LOB can stay healthy. Brady may get another chance at a ring but I'm as sure as a fan can be that he will have to beat Seattle in the last game this season to get it. It will be unlikely that he will face the band of cripples he was fortunate to throw against in SB 49.[/QUOT
As a fan of Wilson's and the Seahawks, Huggy...I'm curious what your feelings are about Russell's agent telling the Seahawks that Wilson wants to be the highest paid player in the NFL? In the salary cap era one of the keys to staying competitive is having enough cap space to keep as many elite players as possible. If Wilson goes from being the bargain he is now...to being REALLY expensive... the Seahawks are going to have to shed payroll somewhere else, which means some of Russell's teammates aren't going to get paid! How do you think that's going to affect Seattle's chemistry?