Patriots Super Bowl ring

[Alex.]

And OJ was found guilty in civil court! That wasn't "over" either when the verdict was read in criminal court.

So you agreed with the preponderance of the evidence rule this was used and met in the Wells report

What evidence? Did you even read the report? "Evidence" like what Wells provided in his report would be laughed out of a court of law. I'm well aware that this isn't a court case and obviously so was Wells...

I sure did fanboi every single word. Wells met his burden, Brady did not cooperate, Brady cheated and Brady lied, Pats did not cooperate. Your gods have feet of clay and deflated credibility.

I'm curious, Alex...how did what Tom Brady do differ in any way from what Aaron Rogers did? Why has Brady been suspended four games for simply asking that his game balls be at the low end of the inflation scale...while Aaron Rogers gets a pass for asking that HIS game balls be at the high end of the inflation scale?

The difference is that Brady snuck around and conspired with his flunkies to take air out after the refs inspected the balls. Rogers problem is as follows: Aaron Rodgers says NFL referees take air out of footballs to be used in games, and he doesn't think it should happen..."I have a major problem with the way it goes down, to be honest with you," Rodgers said Tuesday on his ESPN Milwaukee radio show. "The majority of the time, they take air out of the football. I think that, for me, is a disadvantage."

Aaron Rodgers of Green Bay Packers upset referees take air out of footballs


No violation for Rogers he follows the rules on this, he does not have ball boys fill up the balls after the refs take air out.You can try to spin and spin this you will just get yourself dizzy. Brady cheated, Brady lied, Brady did not cooperate with investigators.

 

[Dot Com]

And OJ was found guilty in civil court! That wasn't "over" either when the verdict was read in criminal court.

So you agreed with the preponderance of the evidence rule this was used and met in the Wells report

What evidence? Did you even read the report? "Evidence" like what Wells provided in his report would be laughed out of a court of law. I'm well aware that this isn't a court case and obviously so was Wells...

except we're not talking about that cheatriots fan boi. Stop moving the goal posts (pun intended) the burden of proof FOR THE LEAGUE was met. Thats all that matters dum dum.

 

[Oldstyle]

And OJ was found guilty in civil court! That wasn't "over" either when the verdict was read in criminal court.

So you agreed with the preponderance of the evidence rule this was used and met in the Wells report

What evidence? Did you even read the report? "Evidence" like what Wells provided in his report would be laughed out of a court of law. I'm well aware that this isn't a court case and obviously so was Wells...

I sure did fanboi every single word. Wells met his burden, Brady did not cooperate, Brady cheated and Brady lied, Pats did not cooperate. Your gods have feet of clay and deflated credibility.

I'm curious, Alex...how did what Tom Brady do differ in any way from what Aaron Rogers did? Why has Brady been suspended four games for simply asking that his game balls be at the low end of the inflation scale...while Aaron Rogers gets a pass for asking that HIS game balls be at the high end of the inflation scale?

The difference is that Brady snuck around and conspired with his flunkies to take air out after the refs inspected the balls. Rogers problem is as follows: Aaron Rodgers says NFL referees take air out of footballs to be used in games, and he doesn't think it should happen..."I have a major problem with the way it goes down, to be honest with you," Rodgers said Tuesday on his ESPN Milwaukee radio show. "The majority of the time, they take air out of the football. I think that, for me, is a disadvantage."

Aaron Rodgers of Green Bay Packers upset referees take air out of footballs


No violation for Rogers he follows the rules on this, he does not have ball boys fill up the balls after the refs take air out.You can try to spin and spin this you will just get yourself dizzy. Brady cheated, Brady lied, Brady did not cooperate with investigators.

There is just as much hard evidence that Aaron Rogers violated the rules as there is that Tom Brady violated the rules! That's always been my point. If you read the Wells report it's filled from one end to the other with phrases saying essentially that Brady "might have" known and "might have" cheated. The reality is that Aaron Rogers "might have" cheated as well. So "might have" Peyton Manning have cheated. So "might have" every other quarterback in the league have cheated because they all had the right to provide their own game balls.

 

[Oldstyle]

The Colts "might have" altered the pressure in the ball they had in their possession before they turned it over to the officials. It's the only one that was found to be much softer than regulation. The referee "might have" checked the Patriot's game balls with a pressure valve that gave incorrect pressures. He said in his testimony that to the best of his recollection he used the pressure valve with the longer needle the one that gave higher readings. Wells wouldn't accept that testimony however because it undermined the case he was making against the Patriots. Wells got the referee to state that it was "possible" that he used the shorter needle and just didn't remember correctly. That's the kind of thing you do when you're prosecuting someone...not when you're an independent investigator trying to arrive at the truth.

 

[Dot Com]

cheatriot fan bois STILL rationalizing their cheating.

 

[Oldstyle]

You really don't have a response to what I've posted other than this juvenile name calling...do you, Dottie?

 

[Oldstyle]

And OJ was found guilty in civil court! That wasn't "over" either when the verdict was read in criminal court.

So you agreed with the preponderance of the evidence rule this was used and met in the Wells report

What evidence? Did you even read the report? "Evidence" like what Wells provided in his report would be laughed out of a court of law. I'm well aware that this isn't a court case and obviously so was Wells...

I sure did fanboi every single word. Wells met his burden, Brady did not cooperate, Brady cheated and Brady lied, Pats did not cooperate. Your gods have feet of clay and deflated credibility.

I'm curious, Alex...how did what Tom Brady do differ in any way from what Aaron Rogers did? Why has Brady been suspended four games for simply asking that his game balls be at the low end of the inflation scale...while Aaron Rogers gets a pass for asking that HIS game balls be at the high end of the inflation scale?

The difference is that Brady snuck around and conspired with his flunkies to take air out after the refs inspected the balls. Rogers problem is as follows: Aaron Rodgers says NFL referees take air out of footballs to be used in games, and he doesn't think it should happen..."I have a major problem with the way it goes down, to be honest with you," Rodgers said Tuesday on his ESPN Milwaukee radio show. "The majority of the time, they take air out of the football. I think that, for me, is a disadvantage."

Aaron Rodgers of Green Bay Packers upset referees take air out of footballs


No violation for Rogers he follows the rules on this, he does not have ball boys fill up the balls after the refs take air out.You can try to spin and spin this you will just get yourself dizzy. Brady cheated, Brady lied, Brady did not cooperate with investigators.

I'm curious, Dottie...did you happen to read the second article...the one by Dan Le Betard on that same site. It's rather good actually...summing up what this whole "scandal" has really been about.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

that podcast i posted ALSO vouches for everything Huggy has been saying that having a deflated football in cold weather is a huge advantage for a quarterback who has small hands " which Brady has." and it makes it more difficult for the opposing teams to knock the ball out of the ball carriers hands which incidently,the cheats have had a much higher percentage than other teams in the last 8 years plus or so in not turning the ball over.hardly a concidence.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

btw,aelx,dot,did you guys listen to that podcast? we know trollstyle,chrissy and the others wont since they mention everything i posted.

 

[Alex.]

The Colts "might have" altered the pressure in the ball they had in their possession before they turned it over to the officials. It's the only one that was found to be much softer than regulation. The referee "might have" checked the Patriot's game balls with a pressure valve that gave incorrect pressures. He said in his testimony that to the best of his recollection he used the pressure valve with the longer needle the one that gave higher readings. Wells wouldn't accept that testimony however because it undermined the case he was making against the Patriots. Wells got the referee to state that it was "possible" that he used the shorter needle and just didn't remember correctly. That's the kind of thing you do when you're prosecuting someone...not when you're an independent investigator trying to arrive at the truth.

So you agreed with the preponderance of the evidence rule this was used and met in the Wells report

What evidence? Did you even read the report? "Evidence" like what Wells provided in his report would be laughed out of a court of law. I'm well aware that this isn't a court case and obviously so was Wells...

I sure did fanboi every single word. Wells met his burden, Brady did not cooperate, Brady cheated and Brady lied, Pats did not cooperate. Your gods have feet of clay and deflated credibility.

I'm curious, Alex...how did what Tom Brady do differ in any way from what Aaron Rogers did? Why has Brady been suspended four games for simply asking that his game balls be at the low end of the inflation scale...while Aaron Rogers gets a pass for asking that HIS game balls be at the high end of the inflation scale?

The difference is that Brady snuck around and conspired with his flunkies to take air out after the refs inspected the balls. Rogers problem is as follows: Aaron Rodgers says NFL referees take air out of footballs to be used in games, and he doesn't think it should happen..."I have a major problem with the way it goes down, to be honest with you," Rodgers said Tuesday on his ESPN Milwaukee radio show. "The majority of the time, they take air out of the football. I think that, for me, is a disadvantage."

Aaron Rodgers of Green Bay Packers upset referees take air out of footballs


No violation for Rogers he follows the rules on this, he does not have ball boys fill up the balls after the refs take air out.You can try to spin and spin this you will just get yourself dizzy. Brady cheated, Brady lied, Brady did not cooperate with investigators.

There is just as much hard evidence that Aaron Rogers violated the rules as there is that Tom Brady violated the rules! That's always been my point. If you read the Wells report it's filled from one end to the other with phrases saying essentially that Brady "might have" known and "might have" cheated. The reality is that Aaron Rogers "might have" cheated as well. So "might have" Peyton Manning have cheated. So "might have" every other quarterback in the league have cheated because they all had the right to provide their own game balls.

Might, could have, maybe keep spinning

 

[Oldstyle]

The Colts "might have" altered the pressure in the ball they had in their possession before they turned it over to the officials. It's the only one that was found to be much softer than regulation. The referee "might have" checked the Patriot's game balls with a pressure valve that gave incorrect pressures. He said in his testimony that to the best of his recollection he used the pressure valve with the longer needle the one that gave higher readings. Wells wouldn't accept that testimony however because it undermined the case he was making against the Patriots. Wells got the referee to state that it was "possible" that he used the shorter needle and just didn't remember correctly. That's the kind of thing you do when you're prosecuting someone...not when you're an independent investigator trying to arrive at the truth.

What evidence? Did you even read the report? "Evidence" like what Wells provided in his report would be laughed out of a court of law. I'm well aware that this isn't a court case and obviously so was Wells...

I sure did fanboi every single word. Wells met his burden, Brady did not cooperate, Brady cheated and Brady lied, Pats did not cooperate. Your gods have feet of clay and deflated credibility.

I'm curious, Alex...how did what Tom Brady do differ in any way from what Aaron Rogers did? Why has Brady been suspended four games for simply asking that his game balls be at the low end of the inflation scale...while Aaron Rogers gets a pass for asking that HIS game balls be at the high end of the inflation scale?

The difference is that Brady snuck around and conspired with his flunkies to take air out after the refs inspected the balls. Rogers problem is as follows: Aaron Rodgers says NFL referees take air out of footballs to be used in games, and he doesn't think it should happen..."I have a major problem with the way it goes down, to be honest with you," Rodgers said Tuesday on his ESPN Milwaukee radio show. "The majority of the time, they take air out of the football. I think that, for me, is a disadvantage."

Aaron Rodgers of Green Bay Packers upset referees take air out of footballs


No violation for Rogers he follows the rules on this, he does not have ball boys fill up the balls after the refs take air out.You can try to spin and spin this you will just get yourself dizzy. Brady cheated, Brady lied, Brady did not cooperate with investigators.

There is just as much hard evidence that Aaron Rogers violated the rules as there is that Tom Brady violated the rules! That's always been my point. If you read the Wells report it's filled from one end to the other with phrases saying essentially that Brady "might have" known and "might have" cheated. The reality is that Aaron Rogers "might have" cheated as well. So "might have" Peyton Manning have cheated. So "might have" every other quarterback in the league have cheated because they all had the right to provide their own game balls.

Might, could have, maybe keep spinning

Ah, I see how it works...it's fine for YOU and Ted Wells to assume what "might have" happened but when I do the same thing, I'm "spinning"?

 

[Alex.]

The Colts "might have" altered the pressure in the ball they had in their possession before they turned it over to the officials. It's the only one that was found to be much softer than regulation. The referee "might have" checked the Patriot's game balls with a pressure valve that gave incorrect pressures. He said in his testimony that to the best of his recollection he used the pressure valve with the longer needle the one that gave higher readings. Wells wouldn't accept that testimony however because it undermined the case he was making against the Patriots. Wells got the referee to state that it was "possible" that he used the shorter needle and just didn't remember correctly. That's the kind of thing you do when you're prosecuting someone...not when you're an independent investigator trying to arrive at the truth.

I sure did fanboi every single word. Wells met his burden, Brady did not cooperate, Brady cheated and Brady lied, Pats did not cooperate. Your gods have feet of clay and deflated credibility.

I'm curious, Alex...how did what Tom Brady do differ in any way from what Aaron Rogers did? Why has Brady been suspended four games for simply asking that his game balls be at the low end of the inflation scale...while Aaron Rogers gets a pass for asking that HIS game balls be at the high end of the inflation scale?

The difference is that Brady snuck around and conspired with his flunkies to take air out after the refs inspected the balls. Rogers problem is as follows: Aaron Rodgers says NFL referees take air out of footballs to be used in games, and he doesn't think it should happen..."I have a major problem with the way it goes down, to be honest with you," Rodgers said Tuesday on his ESPN Milwaukee radio show. "The majority of the time, they take air out of the football. I think that, for me, is a disadvantage."

Aaron Rodgers of Green Bay Packers upset referees take air out of footballs


No violation for Rogers he follows the rules on this, he does not have ball boys fill up the balls after the refs take air out.You can try to spin and spin this you will just get yourself dizzy. Brady cheated, Brady lied, Brady did not cooperate with investigators.

There is just as much hard evidence that Aaron Rogers violated the rules as there is that Tom Brady violated the rules! That's always been my point. If you read the Wells report it's filled from one end to the other with phrases saying essentially that Brady "might have" known and "might have" cheated. The reality is that Aaron Rogers "might have" cheated as well. So "might have" Peyton Manning have cheated. So "might have" every other quarterback in the league have cheated because they all had the right to provide their own game balls.

Might, could have, maybe keep spinning

Ah, I see how it works...it's fine for YOU and Ted Wells to assume what "might have" happened but when I do the same thing, I'm "spinning"?

Follow the Wells methodology, produce evidence, have Rogers lie and refuse to cooperate then meet your burden of persuasion at which point you may have shown by a preponderance of the evidence that Rogers committed the acts you claim.

 

[Oldstyle]

The Colts "might have" altered the pressure in the ball they had in their possession before they turned it over to the officials. It's the only one that was found to be much softer than regulation. The referee "might have" checked the Patriot's game balls with a pressure valve that gave incorrect pressures. He said in his testimony that to the best of his recollection he used the pressure valve with the longer needle the one that gave higher readings. Wells wouldn't accept that testimony however because it undermined the case he was making against the Patriots. Wells got the referee to state that it was "possible" that he used the shorter needle and just didn't remember correctly. That's the kind of thing you do when you're prosecuting someone...not when you're an independent investigator trying to arrive at the truth.

I'm curious, Alex...how did what Tom Brady do differ in any way from what Aaron Rogers did? Why has Brady been suspended four games for simply asking that his game balls be at the low end of the inflation scale...while Aaron Rogers gets a pass for asking that HIS game balls be at the high end of the inflation scale?[/QUOTE



The difference is that Brady snuck around and conspired with his flunkies to take air out after the refs inspected the balls. Rogers problem is as follows: Aaron Rodgers says NFL referees take air out of footballs to be used in games, and he doesn't think it should happen..."I have a major problem with the way it goes down, to be honest with you," Rodgers said Tuesday on his ESPN Milwaukee radio show. "The majority of the time, they take air out of the football. I think that, for me, is a disadvantage."

Aaron Rodgers of Green Bay Packers upset referees take air out of footballs


No violation for Rogers he follows the rules on this, he does not have ball boys fill up the balls after the refs take air out.You can try to spin and spin this you will just get yourself dizzy. Brady cheated, Brady lied, Brady did not cooperate with investigators.

There is just as much hard evidence that Aaron Rogers violated the rules as there is that Tom Brady violated the rules! That's always been my point. If you read the Wells report it's filled from one end to the other with phrases saying essentially that Brady "might have" known and "might have" cheated. The reality is that Aaron Rogers "might have" cheated as well. So "might have" Peyton Manning have cheated. So "might have" every other quarterback in the league have cheated because they all had the right to provide their own game balls.

Might, could have, maybe keep spinning

Ah, I see how it works...it's fine for YOU and Ted Wells to assume what "might have" happened but when I do the same thing, I'm "spinning"?

Follow the Wells methodology, produce evidence, have Rogers lie and refuse to cooperate then meet your burden of persuasion at which point you may have shown by a preponderance of the evidence that Rogers committed the acts you claim.

The Wells "methodology" seems to have been to start with a conclusion and then build a case to support that conclusion. Using Well's methodology I would take Rogers' statement that he thinks the officials take too much air out of the balls as "proof" that he did something to keep the balls more inflated than they should be under the rules. Then I would contact all of Rogers' competitors and ask them if they think Green Bay has been doing something illegal. Gee, Alex...I wonder what kind of response I'd get to that query from the Chicago Bears organization or the Minnesota Vikings organization!

I'm curious...what "lie" is it that Tom Brady has been proven to have told? Or is that simply "assumed" under the Wells "methodology"?

The Wells "methodology" seems to have been to start with a conclusion and then build a case to support that conclusion. Using Well's methodology I would take Rogers' statement that he thinks the officials take too much air out of the balls as "proof" that he did something to keep the balls more inflated than they should be under the rules. Then I would contact all of Rogers' competitors and ask them if they think Green Bay has been doing something illegal. Gee, Alex...I wonder what kind of response I'd get to that query from the Chicago Bears organization or the Minnesota Vikings organization!

I'm curious...what "lie" is it that Tom Brady has been proven to have told? Or is that simply "assumed" under the Wells "methodology"?

 

[Dot Com]

cheatriots apologists/fan bois still don't get it

 

[Alex.]

The Colts "might have" altered the pressure in the ball they had in their possession before they turned it over to the officials. It's the only one that was found to be much softer than regulation. The referee "might have" checked the Patriot's game balls with a pressure valve that gave incorrect pressures. He said in his testimony that to the best of his recollection he used the pressure valve with the longer needle the one that gave higher readings. Wells wouldn't accept that testimony however because it undermined the case he was making against the Patriots. Wells got the referee to state that it was "possible" that he used the shorter needle and just didn't remember correctly. That's the kind of thing you do when you're prosecuting someone...not when you're an independent investigator trying to arrive at the truth.

There is just as much hard evidence that Aaron Rogers violated the rules as there is that Tom Brady violated the rules! That's always been my point. If you read the Wells report it's filled from one end to the other with phrases saying essentially that Brady "might have" known and "might have" cheated. The reality is that Aaron Rogers "might have" cheated as well. So "might have" Peyton Manning have cheated. So "might have" every other quarterback in the league have cheated because they all had the right to provide their own game balls.

Might, could have, maybe keep spinning

Ah, I see how it works...it's fine for YOU and Ted Wells to assume what "might have" happened but when I do the same thing, I'm "spinning"?

Follow the Wells methodology, produce evidence, have Rogers lie and refuse to cooperate then meet your burden of persuasion at which point you may have shown by a preponderance of the evidence that Rogers committed the acts you claim.

The Wells "methodology" seems to have been to start with a conclusion and then build a case to support that conclusion. Using Well's methodology I would take Rogers' statement that he thinks the officials take too much air out of the balls as "proof" that he did something to keep the balls more inflated than they should be under the rules. Then I would contact all of Rogers' competitors and ask them if they think Green Bay has been doing something illegal. Gee, Alex...I wonder what kind of response I'd get to that query from the Chicago Bears organization or the Minnesota Vikings organization!

I'm curious...what "lie" is it that Tom Brady has been proven to have told? Or is that simply "assumed" under the Wells "methodology"?

The Wells "methodology" seems to have been to start with a conclusion and then build a case to support that conclusion. Using Well's methodology I would take Rogers' statement that he thinks the officials take too much air out of the balls as "proof" that he did something to keep the balls more inflated than they should be under the rules. Then I would contact all of Rogers' competitors and ask them if they think Green Bay has been doing something illegal. Gee, Alex...I wonder what kind of response I'd get to that query from the Chicago Bears organization or the Minnesota Vikings organization!

I'm curious...what "lie" is it that Tom Brady has been proven to have told? Or is that simply "assumed" under the Wells "methodology"?

Start with a conclusion? Pot/kettle would fit you in this situation. As far as Brady lying, cheating and not cooperating read the report and look at my previous posts.

 

[Oldstyle]

The Colts "might have" altered the pressure in the ball they had in their possession before they turned it over to the officials. It's the only one that was found to be much softer than regulation. The referee "might have" checked the Patriot's game balls with a pressure valve that gave incorrect pressures. He said in his testimony that to the best of his recollection he used the pressure valve with the longer needle the one that gave higher readings. Wells wouldn't accept that testimony however because it undermined the case he was making against the Patriots. Wells got the referee to state that it was "possible" that he used the shorter needle and just didn't remember correctly. That's the kind of thing you do when you're prosecuting someone...not when you're an independent investigator trying to arrive at the truth.

Might, could have, maybe keep spinning

Ah, I see how it works...it's fine for YOU and Ted Wells to assume what "might have" happened but when I do the same thing, I'm "spinning"?

Follow the Wells methodology, produce evidence, have Rogers lie and refuse to cooperate then meet your burden of persuasion at which point you may have shown by a preponderance of the evidence that Rogers committed the acts you claim.

The Wells "methodology" seems to have been to start with a conclusion and then build a case to support that conclusion. Using Well's methodology I would take Rogers' statement that he thinks the officials take too much air out of the balls as "proof" that he did something to keep the balls more inflated than they should be under the rules. Then I would contact all of Rogers' competitors and ask them if they think Green Bay has been doing something illegal. Gee, Alex...I wonder what kind of response I'd get to that query from the Chicago Bears organization or the Minnesota Vikings organization!

I'm curious...what "lie" is it that Tom Brady has been proven to have told? Or is that simply "assumed" under the Wells "methodology"?

The Wells "methodology" seems to have been to start with a conclusion and then build a case to support that conclusion. Using Well's methodology I would take Rogers' statement that he thinks the officials take too much air out of the balls as "proof" that he did something to keep the balls more inflated than they should be under the rules. Then I would contact all of Rogers' competitors and ask them if they think Green Bay has been doing something illegal. Gee, Alex...I wonder what kind of response I'd get to that query from the Chicago Bears organization or the Minnesota Vikings organization!

I'm curious...what "lie" is it that Tom Brady has been proven to have told? Or is that simply "assumed" under the Wells "methodology"?

Start with a conclusion? Pot/kettle would fit you in this situation. As far as Brady lying, cheating and not cooperating read the report and look at my previous posts.

Every time I ask you a simple question, Alex...you duck it. Give me an example of Brady lying. You made the charge...back it up!

 

[Oldstyle]

The way that Wells handled the referee's recollection of how he measured the game balls that day is a perfect example of an investigator starting with a conclusion and tailoring his investigation to arrive at that conclusion. The referee tells Wells that to the best of his recollection...of the two ball gauges he had available to him...he used the one with the longer needle that had a bend in it. That was the one that gave a higher reading. Wells didn't like that answer however because it didn't fit the conclusion that he was working towards...which was that the Patriots let air out of the balls after the referee checked them...so he asked the referee if it was "possible" that he used the shorter needled gauge instead and simply didn't remember. The referee reluctantly answers that it might be possible. That's the way this "investigation" was handled.

 

[Oldstyle]

The way that Wells handled the referee's recollection of how he measured the game balls that day is a perfect example of an investigator starting with a conclusion and tailoring his investigation to arrive at that conclusion. The referee tells Wells that to the best of his recollection...of the two ball gauges he had available to him...he used the one with the longer needle that had a bend in it. That was the one that gave a higher reading. Wells didn't like that answer however because it didn't fit the conclusion that he was working towards...which was that the Patriots let air out of the balls after the referee checked them...so he asked the referee if it was "possible" that he used the shorter needled gauge instead and simply didn't remember. The referee reluctantly answers that it might be possible. That's the way this "investigation" was handled. A plausible explanation of why different readings were arrived at is discounted and a reluctant possibility is given credence.

 

[RKMBrown]

Oldstyle: I see nothing.

 

[Alex.]

Ah, I see how it works...it's fine for YOU and Ted Wells to assume what "might have" happened but when I do the same thing, I'm "spinning"?

Follow the Wells methodology, produce evidence, have Rogers lie and refuse to cooperate then meet your burden of persuasion at which point you may have shown by a preponderance of the evidence that Rogers committed the acts you claim.

The Wells "methodology" seems to have been to start with a conclusion and then build a case to support that conclusion. Using Well's methodology I would take Rogers' statement that he thinks the officials take too much air out of the balls as "proof" that he did something to keep the balls more inflated than they should be under the rules. Then I would contact all of Rogers' competitors and ask them if they think Green Bay has been doing something illegal. Gee, Alex...I wonder what kind of response I'd get to that query from the Chicago Bears organization or the Minnesota Vikings organization!

I'm curious...what "lie" is it that Tom Brady has been proven to have told? Or is that simply "assumed" under the Wells "methodology"?

The Wells "methodology" seems to have been to start with a conclusion and then build a case to support that conclusion. Using Well's methodology I would take Rogers' statement that he thinks the officials take too much air out of the balls as "proof" that he did something to keep the balls more inflated than they should be under the rules. Then I would contact all of Rogers' competitors and ask them if they think Green Bay has been doing something illegal. Gee, Alex...I wonder what kind of response I'd get to that query from the Chicago Bears organization or the Minnesota Vikings organization!

I'm curious...what "lie" is it that Tom Brady has been proven to have told? Or is that simply "assumed" under the Wells "methodology"?

Start with a conclusion? Pot/kettle would fit you in this situation. As far as Brady lying, cheating and not cooperating read the report and look at my previous posts.

Every time I ask you a simple question, Alex...you duck it. Give me an example of Brady lying. You made the charge...back it up!

I am not ducking anything nor am I going to repeatedly answer the same questions over and over again read my previous posts.