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[Unkotare]

Defamation case would be a mistake for Brady ProFootballTalk

Brady might do well to read that

Since when has Brady filed a defamation suit against anyone?

Good advice since Brady has made other stupids moves like destroying is phone.

Why is it a "stupids move" to get rid of a phone that you're worried a bunch of Patriot haters in New York are going to leak whatever is remotely embarrassing if they get their hands on it? Let's face facts...the NFL offices in New York are not a "Patriots friendly" place...something made glaringly clear when the NFL didn't bother to correct the impression that all of the Patriot's game balls were significantly under inflated. What was the agenda there? You've got 11 balls that are only slightly under inflated and the one ball that was drastically under inflated...the ball that the Colts had in THEIR possession before turning it over to the officials at halftime is the ONLY one who's inflation level couldn't have occurred naturally yet the league keeps that fact from the public...letting everyone think that ALL the balls were under inflated to that degree!

You will never get that he fucked himself and his image by destroying evidence. Any honest person would have just faced a prick like Goodell and cleared his name instead of allowing this to take on a life of it's own.

Some of y'all really need to read the full transcript.

 

[Dot Com]

Tommy did the obvious

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...ept-suspension-for-not-cooperating/ar-BBlSimw

Brady unexpectedly missed practice on Tuesday to travel to New York for settlement discussions, but the talks went nowhere once again. The reason no progress is being made is that Brady refuses to admit he had any knowledge of alleged ball tampering. The NFL wants the 38-year-old to accept the findings of the Wells report if the two sides agree to settle.

 

[Oldstyle]

Tommy did the obvious

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...ept-suspension-for-not-cooperating/ar-BBlSimw

Brady unexpectedly missed practice on Tuesday to travel to New York for settlement discussions, but the talks went nowhere once again. The reason no progress is being made is that Brady refuses to admit he had any knowledge of alleged ball tampering. The NFL wants the 38-year-old to accept the findings of the Wells report if the two sides agree to settle.

http://larrybrownsports.com/football/roger-goodell-lied-tom-brady-dishonest/269436
http://larrybrownsports.com/football/nfl-exec-dave-gardi-lied-to-patriots-underinflated-ball/269434
http://larrybrownsports.com/football/mike-kensil-told-patriots-youre-in-big-f-ing-trouble/261974

My question for you is this, Dottie...why aren't we getting the rest of the story about what happened between the NFL and the Patriots? Why are NFL league officials distorting what took place?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Tommy did the obvious

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...ept-suspension-for-not-cooperating/ar-BBlSimw

Brady unexpectedly missed practice on Tuesday to travel to New York for settlement discussions, but the talks went nowhere once again. The reason no progress is being made is that Brady refuses to admit he had any knowledge of alleged ball tampering. The NFL wants the 38-year-old to accept the findings of the Wells report if the two sides agree to settle.

Tommy did the obvious

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...ept-suspension-for-not-cooperating/ar-BBlSimw

Brady unexpectedly missed practice on Tuesday to travel to New York for settlement discussions, but the talks went nowhere once again. The reason no progress is being made is that Brady refuses to admit he had any knowledge of alleged ball tampering. The NFL wants the 38-year-old to accept the findings of the Wells report if the two sides agree to settle.

time for old fartstyle and the rest of the cheatriot apologists to get out their crying towels.

 

[Oldstyle]

This has always been a problem for me with this whole "investigation" into alleged cheating by the Patriots. You've got the Colts emailing the NFL accusing the Patriots of under inflating balls before the game started, correct? Then you've got the NFL measuring the balls prior to the second half, correct? So they have the exact inflation rate at half time but nobody has the inflation rate for those balls when the referee checked them before the game? If you have a suspicion of foul play...why wouldn't the EXACT inflation rate of the balls be known before the start of the game?

Let me give you an analogy from my line of work. If I were running a night club and one of my undercover spotters informed me that they suspected one of my bartenders was giving away drinks or charging for them and pocketing the cash...I would set up a sting operation to verify that spotter's report. Why? Because it's only fair. You don't want to fire an innocent person because someone else mistook what they were seeing.

But here's the thing...

If I'm setting up that sting I'm going to do some very important things prior to the next shift that person works. I'm going to inventory the booze they have behind their bar so I know exactly what they started the night with. I'm also going to count their cash drawer so I know exactly what they started with for money. I HAVE to do this if I'm going to later on accuse them of stealing because that's the only way for me to prove that it's taking place. I wouldn't give them a cash drawer I hadn't counted! I wouldn't not know what they started with for inventory! I wouldn't do those things because if I ended up going to court with a wrongful termination lawsuit I'm going to not want to look like an idiot when I get questioned by the other side's lawyer. That's such a no brainer it's not even funny.

So here is the NFL. Supposedly the Colts have complained to them that the Patriots are cheating when it comes to game balls. They do so long BEFORE the game begins. So why weren't the inflation numbers for each game ball...for both the Colts and the Patriots recorded? If it's your intention to run a "sting" operation against the Patriots...then why aren't you doing it in a way that proves EXACTLY what took place? How do you prove your allegations if you don't know what the effects of weather had on ALL the balls that day?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

someone farted in here.^

 

[Unkotare]

"Refuses to admit"




Some of y'all would have been right at home in the Red Guard.

 

[Papageorgio]

After yesterday's hearings, I think if this goes to trial, the NFL wins. I don't see this judge changing Goodells ruling and the next CBA, the players need to work on other things beside money.

 

[Oldstyle]

After yesterday's hearings, I think if this goes to trial, the NFL wins. I don't see this judge changing Goodells ruling and the next CBA, the players need to work on other things beside money.

With all due respect, Papa...the NFL loses no matter what the judge decides. This whole situation is a no win scenario for Roger Goodell...hence my point that he was an IDIOT to ever let it go this far!

 

[ChrisL]

Obviously the point was to make this into some kind of circus. They really dragged the whole thing out and allowed all kinds of leaks, etc. Anyways, I'll still be rooting for my Pats this year and so will all my friends and family. The haters can continue with their hate fest but it really doesn't affect us true fans. We are still going to kick your arses and make you cry again.

 

[mack20]

After yesterday's hearings, I think if this goes to trial, the NFL wins. I don't see this judge changing Goodells ruling and the next CBA, the players need to work on other things beside money.

Really? By all reports Berman has been hammering the NFL on their process. What specifically makes you think he'd rule in favor of them? Or are you in the camp that he thinks they fucked up but doesn't think they violated the CBA?

If that's the way this case goes, I hope he Berman insists on another appeal in front of an impartial arbiter. The Saints players lost their case in court because the judge didn't believe it violated the CBA, but she insisted on a new appeal and every players suspension was vacated as a result.

 

[Papageorgio]

After yesterday's hearings, I think if this goes to trial, the NFL wins. I don't see this judge changing Goodells ruling and the next CBA, the players need to work on other things beside money.

With all due respect, Papa...the NFL loses no matter what the judge decides. This whole situation is a no win scenario for Roger Goodell...hence my point that he was an IDIOT to ever let it go this far!

I agree with that, this is a joke and it has been handled very badly by the NFL. This is a pound of air pressure and not a player issue. That said, the judge will rule in favor of the NFL and it has a negative effect on the NFL.

 

[Papageorgio]

After yesterday's hearings, I think if this goes to trial, the NFL wins. I don't see this judge changing Goodells ruling and the next CBA, the players need to work on other things beside money.

Really? By all reports Berman has been hammering the NFL on their process. What specifically makes you think he'd rule in favor of them? Or are you in the camp that he thinks they fucked up but doesn't think they violated the CBA?

If that's the way this case goes, I hope he Berman insists on another appeal in front of an impartial arbiter. The Saints players lost their case in court because the judge didn't believe it violated the CBA, but she insisted on a new appeal and every players suspension was vacated as a result.

The process is flawed however the process was agreed to in the CBA. Again, it can go either way but I think this judge is pushing for an agreement because in the end an agreement is the only way either side saves face.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Here come the death threats from psycho Patriot fans.

three farts in a row from the cheatriot trolls.

that first sentence taken from a site on the cheatriots is an accurate description of the cheatriot apologists pooper,chrissy,mack and the biggest tom brady mancrush of them all,old fartstyle.

patriot fans are psycho nutcases no doubt as evidenced by the worshipping of Brady by them on this site.you just know chrissy,pooper,mack and the biggest Brady lover of them all, old fartstyle have been issuing death threats to people in real life who tell the truth about them that they are cheaters and liars.

 

[Oldstyle]

Here come the death threats from psycho Patriot fans.

three farts in a row from the cheatriot trolls.

that first sentence taken from a site on the cheatriots is an accurate description of the cheatriot apologists pooper,chrissy,mack and the biggest tom brady mancrush of them all,old fartstyle.

patriot fans are psycho nutcases no doubt as evidenced by the worshipping of Brady by them on this site.you just know chrissy,pooper,mack and the biggest Brady lover of them all, old fartstyle have been issuing death threats to people in real life who tell the truth about them that they are cheaters and liars.

Death threats over "Deflategate"? That's absurd even for you. Stick to fart references...it's what you're "good" at.

 

[Oldstyle]

After yesterday's hearings, I think if this goes to trial, the NFL wins. I don't see this judge changing Goodells ruling and the next CBA, the players need to work on other things beside money.

With all due respect, Papa...the NFL loses no matter what the judge decides. This whole situation is a no win scenario for Roger Goodell...hence my point that he was an IDIOT to ever let it go this far!

I agree with that, this is a joke and it has been handled very badly by the NFL. This is a pound of air pressure and not a player issue. That said, the judge will rule in favor of the NFL and it has a negative effect on the NFL.

It's not even a pound of air pressure. All of the balls except the one that the Colts had in their possession were only slightly under inflated. The ball that the Colts had access to was down substantially...which begs the question...was it the Patriots who let the air out of that football...or was it someone on the Colts trying a little gamesmanship on the Pats?

I ask that question not because I have proof that the Colts did that...it's simply my doing the logical thing and wondering who gains from having one football substantially under inflated. Quite frankly I don't see an advantage for the Patriots with one ball so much different than the others. The balls get rotated in and out on a rainy day as the officials try and keep them as dry as possible. As a quarterback working predominantly out of the shotgun, Brady's going to get the snap and as he's reading the defense you're telling me that he's going to also have to factor in which level of deflation he's got in the ball that just hit his hands before he tries to throw it? That makes no sense at all to me. It would be a disadvantage...not an advantage!

 

[Papageorgio]

After yesterday's hearings, I think if this goes to trial, the NFL wins. I don't see this judge changing Goodells ruling and the next CBA, the players need to work on other things beside money.

With all due respect, Papa...the NFL loses no matter what the judge decides. This whole situation is a no win scenario for Roger Goodell...hence my point that he was an IDIOT to ever let it go this far!

I agree with that, this is a joke and it has been handled very badly by the NFL. This is a pound of air pressure and not a player issue. That said, the judge will rule in favor of the NFL and it has a negative effect on the NFL.

It's not even a pound of air pressure. All of the balls except the one that the Colts had in their possession were only slightly under inflated. The ball that the Colts had access to was down substantially...which begs the question...was it the Patriots who let the air out of that football...or was it someone on the Colts trying a little gamesmanship on the Pats?

I ask that question not because I have proof that the Colts did that...it's simply my doing the logical thing and wondering who gains from having one football substantially under inflated. Quite frankly I don't see an advantage for the Patriots with one ball so much different than the others. The balls get rotated in and out on a rainy day as the officials try and keep them as dry as possible. As a quarterback working predominantly out of the shotgun, Brady's going to get the snap and as he's reading the defense you're telling me that he's going to also have to factor in which level of deflation he's got in the ball that just hit his hands before he tries to throw it? That makes no sense at all to me. It would be a disadvantage...not an advantage!

I don't think the NFL thought anything through. From the beginning they have been dumb. The Colts even getting an air pressure reading from s football during the game is considered tampering, however the NFL seems to pick and choose. I do think Brady told the equipment manager to lower the pressure down to the lowest allowable limit. I don't think it caused them to win or lose any games.

 

[Oldstyle]

After yesterday's hearings, I think if this goes to trial, the NFL wins. I don't see this judge changing Goodells ruling and the next CBA, the players need to work on other things beside money.

With all due respect, Papa...the NFL loses no matter what the judge decides. This whole situation is a no win scenario for Roger Goodell...hence my point that he was an IDIOT to ever let it go this far!

I agree with that, this is a joke and it has been handled very badly by the NFL. This is a pound of air pressure and not a player issue. That said, the judge will rule in favor of the NFL and it has a negative effect on the NFL.

It's not even a pound of air pressure. All of the balls except the one that the Colts had in their possession were only slightly under inflated. The ball that the Colts had access to was down substantially...which begs the question...was it the Patriots who let the air out of that football...or was it someone on the Colts trying a little gamesmanship on the Pats?

I ask that question not because I have proof that the Colts did that...it's simply my doing the logical thing and wondering who gains from having one football substantially under inflated. Quite frankly I don't see an advantage for the Patriots with one ball so much different than the others. The balls get rotated in and out on a rainy day as the officials try and keep them as dry as possible. As a quarterback working predominantly out of the shotgun, Brady's going to get the snap and as he's reading the defense you're telling me that he's going to also have to factor in which level of deflation he's got in the ball that just hit his hands before he tries to throw it? That makes no sense at all to me. It would be a disadvantage...not an advantage!

I don't think the NFL thought anything through. From the beginning they have been dumb. The Colts even getting an air pressure reading from s football during the game is considered tampering, however the NFL seems to pick and choose. I do think Brady told the equipment manager to lower the pressure down to the lowest allowable limit. I don't think it caused them to win or lose any games.

Here's another issue I have with the way this whole "investigation" was conducted by the NFL. Supposedly the Colts had complained prior to the game that the Patriot's game balls were softer than allowable...correct? So was that passed along to the referee who measured the balls so that he could record the air pressure readings from those balls prior to the game? The referee has testified that he did indeed test the balls and that they were legal when he did so but what air pressure was that "legal" status at? Did the same referee test the balls at half time with the same needle? Now the NFL is saying that there were actually TWO different testing needles that gave two different testing results. The referee, under oath, testified that he thought he'd used the longer needle with the slight bend, which gave the higher result. The NFL's lawyers forced him to admit under cross examination that he wasn't absolutely sure of that and that he might have used the needle with the shorter needle. Think about that! You suspect that the Patriots might be cheating but you question the veracity of the official that YOU had checking the inflation level of the balls prior to the game? Are you kidding me? My other question is how much air pressure is lost when you take your "test readings"? When you do that with your car tires you always lose a little pressure. Is it the same with testing a football? Do repeated tests allow more air to escape? Was that taken into account when they did these tests? How many "test readings" did the Colts do before they gave the ball over to the officials? Did they do any? If they did do one or more...did that in and of itself cause the ball to become more deflated?

 

[Oldstyle]

In my humble opinion it isn't only Tom Brady that should be in court fighting this joke of an investigation...Robert Kraft and the Patriots should NEVER have agreed to pay the fine they did and lose the draft picks they did in an effort to "settle" this with the NFL! They should have taken Goodell to court on it and revealed how shoddy an "investigation" this was by Ted Wells! When you start with a predetermined outcome and work back from that you end up with what Wells provided. It's the kind of thing that gets savaged by any competent attorney in a court of law.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

still ANOTHER fart from you old fartstyle.