Patient Zero for the Omicron variant of Covid was fully vaccinated

[Aldo Raine]

Mutated form of coronavirus may be more contagious, but less deadly, experts say

A common mutation of the novel coronavirus seen in the United States may be more infectious but less deadly, according to recent reports.

www.foxnews.com

Thank you much. Seems a little to early to tell for sure. But I thought he said in his original post that ALL viruses mutate this way. I could be mistaken but I thought that is what he said.
MAGA

 

[Aldo Raine]

Maybe try looking it up. I would focus on stories that discuss the topic before COVID became political.

I heard it on the news.....and the news never lies......but different viruses act differently. Usually mutations are more contagious....whether or not they become more deadly is something that can happen but often doesn't. The problem with the so-called vaccines they're using is they don't actually help make you immune. They simply make it easier to spread the disease. It makes you seem asymptomatic so you can spread the virus without knowing it.....which makes it perfect for socialists who want to control everything we say and do. They're turning the vaccinated into a media or petri dish from which to spread mutations. Mutations that our natural immunity cannot cope with. I also heard that the shots are lowering our T cell count so we become more sick and more susceptible to other diseases like polio and whatever illegals may be carrying with them when Biden ships them to all parts of the country.

You were making solid points until you went on your antivax political rant. Mutations seem to go both ways on the spectrum of being more or less infectious or deadly as they mutate.

MAGA

 

[jc456]

Again, the only way to create a variant is from a vaccinated person.

 

[jc456]

You were making solid points until you went on your antivax political rant. Mutations seem to go both ways on the spectrum of being more or less infectious or deadly as they mutate.

MAGA

but variants/ mutations only exist from a vaccine. The vaccines actually created all of this new nonsense, and some want it to continue.

 

[jc456]

but variants/ mutations only exist from a vaccine. The vaccines actually created all of this new nonsense, and some want it to continue.

Aldo Raine , why no variant until the vaccines were out? Why aren't there thousands of variants then?

 

[mudwhistle]

You were making solid points until you went on your antivax political rant. Mutations seem to go both ways on the spectrum of being more or less infectious or deadly as they mutate.

MAGA

This is true......and the fact that so-called vaccines are designed to mask the symptoms....you become a super-spreader.
You see....I've read that the more contagious a virus becomes....the less deadly it usually is.
The less contagious variety tend to kill their host...which gives it less opportunity to spread the virus.
And once you establish herd immunity....more infectious viruses can't infect those who have COVID anti-bodies.

 

[sartre play]

Biden says new virus cause for concern not panic.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

C19 has infected around 200 million in the US. Its contagious and not very lethal with a survival rate around 99.7. Smallpox is highly lethal with a kill rate at 30 percent and highly contagious due to its 14 day incubation period.

 

[marvin martian]

Biden says new virus cause for concern not panic.

Biden also said vaccinated people cannot contract or transmit covid. Do you believe that?

 

[jc456]

Biden says new virus cause for concern not panic.

why did he say that when the doctors from South Africa said it was a mild variant?

 

[jc456]

This is true......and the fact that so-called vaccines are designed to mask the symptoms....you become a super-spreader.
You see....I've read that the more contagious a virus becomes....the less deadly it usually is.
The less contagious variety tend to kill their host...which gives it less opportunity to spread the virus.
And once you establish herd immunity....more infectious viruses can't infect those who have COVID anti-bodies.

Coronavirus: Are mutations making it more infectious?

While there have been thousands of changes to the virus only one is seen as possibly altering its behaviour.

www.bbc.com

A growing number - perhaps the majority - of virologists now believe, as Dr Thushan de Silva, at the University of Sheffield, explains, there is enough data to say this version of the virus has a "selective advantage" - an evolutionary edge - over the earlier version.
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.In general, being more transmissible doesn't mean a virus is more lethal - in fact the opposite is often true. There's no evidence this coronavirus has mutated to make patients more or less sick.

 

[badger2]

Do the readers-prisoners know that “patient zero” for SARS-CoV-2 is supposedly a shrimp seller? Patient zero for Omicron may not have come from South Africa.

Nigeria detects first case of Omicron COVID-19 variant from October

Nigeria has detected its first case of the omicron coronavirus variant in a sample it collected in October, weeks before South Africa alerted the world about the variant last week, the country's national public health institute said Wednesday.

www.cp24.com

 

[badger2]

When we examine Omicron mutations, it looks like the virus is going bananas. It doesn’t know whether to put it in or take it out, and it’s the first insertion in the spike of note.

 

[mudwhistle]

Biden says new virus cause for concern not panic.

Bye-dumb says alot of shit that isn't true.

 

[Aldo Raine]

Aldo Raine , why no variant until the vaccines were out? Why aren't there thousands of variants then?

You do know that for like forever viruses have mutated. Way before any vaccines for anything were ever developed viruses mutated as the body adapted to overcome an invading virus. This is the way of life. Viruses will forever be mutating to be better at what they do. Which is replicate. Don't be so lazy.
MAGA

 

[AntonToo]

Well if that is the case, then when the SA doctor talks of only mild issues with this strain they mean both unvaccinated and vaccinated...ergo whats the point of getting vaccinated? Chance it--catch the omicron version where chances of surviving are great and hope for natural immunity preventing the worse strains. It also means that when they say that the Israeli doctors were fully vaccinated and thusly able to have no real issues with omicron, that they are talking out of their ass. NO one has really any issues with omicron.

It's called a small sample.

If virus kills 2 out of 100 and you saw only ~10 cases, all young people, does that mean the virus is benign? F no.

 

[eagle1462010]

Biden says new virus cause for concern not panic.

Rope a Dope. They are gonna play it for all they can get.

 

[Turtlesoup]

It's called a small sample.

If virus kills 2 out of 100 and you saw only ~10 cases, all young people, does that mean the virus is benign? F no.

Honey the doctor saw many people with omicron---she is reporting no deaths and no real issues. I am assuming her SAMPLE is not just 10 young people. I remain alarmed that our corrupt government and globalists don't release the stats to the public so we are better informed and can see and gage the covid kung flus better for ourselves. The hiding of the stats is a bad sign that we are being lied to and manipulated. I am also alarmed that you keep trying to spin and make up nonsense including the non existent 10 healthy young people. We have what the doctor says about all of her patients (that none got seriously ill) and we have the few others being mentioned in other nations (that SO far are also reporting none got seriously ill.)

Secondly, those being reported on outside of SA publically in the news as having Omicron are doctors themselves----so I assume not young on average who are also reporting a big nothing burger of the disease. Meanwhile our ever lying their asses off government and media desperately trying to make Omicron sound like the big bad as they seek to steal billions $$$$ to innoculate the africans and whatever else that they can think of to justify the steal, are unable to list any deaths or any serious illness either despite their motives. A very contagious covid that doesn't kill but that might create herd immunity could be a huge BLESSING, not the nightmare that so many including yourself hope for.

The covid kung flus haven't been hitting their hardest in the africa nations for whatever reasons, but if this continues where Omicron is not making people seriously ill even outside of africa-------I say fuck it--perfect opportunity to see if the killer virus's who lose their killing abilities as they mutate to a more contagious less deadly strain are a way that nature naturally creates herd immunity to prevent virus's from sending any species into extinction. Let Omicron spread unhampered....with no need to panic anyone over a basically a now flu bug while keeping our fingers crossed that it actually brings a safer Herd Immunity to all for free. Stop pharma profiting from fucking up this natural defense by trying to make people immune to the natural herd immunity.

 

[AntonToo]

Honey the doctor saw many people with omicron---she is reporting no deaths and no real issues. I am assuming her SAMPLE is not just 10 young people. I remain alarmed that our corrupt government and globalists don't release the stats to the public so we are better informed and can see and gage the covid kung flus better for ourselves. The hiding of the stats is a bad sign that we are being lied to and manipulated. I am also alarmed that you keep trying to spin and make up nonsense including the non existent 10 healthy young people. We have what the doctor says about all of her patients (that none got seriously ill) and we have the few others being mentioned in other nations (that SO far are also reporting none got seriously ill.)

Secondly, those being reported on outside of SA publically in the news as having Omicron are doctors themselves----so I assume not young on average who are also reporting a big nothing burger of the disease. Meanwhile our ever lying their asses off government and media desperately trying to make Omicron sound like the big bad as they seek to steal billions $$$$ to innoculate the africans and whatever else that they can think of to justify the steal, are unable to list any deaths or any serious illness either despite their motives. A very contagious covid that doesn't kill but that might create herd immunity could be a huge BLESSING, not the nightmare that so many including yourself hope for.

The covid kung flus haven't been hitting their hardest in the africa nations for whatever reasons, but if this continues where Omicron is not making people seriously ill even outside of africa-------I say fuck it--perfect opportunity to see if the killer virus's who lose their killing abilities as they mutate to a more contagious less deadly strain are a way that nature naturally creates herd immunity to prevent virus's from sending any species into extinction. Let Omicron spread unhampered....with no need to panic anyone over a basically a now flu bug while keeping our fingers crossed that it a

Honey the doctor saw many people with omicron---she is reporting no deaths and no real issues. I am assuming her SAMPLE is not just 10 young people. I remain alarmed that our corrupt government and globalists don't release the stats to the public so we are better informed and can see and gage the covid kung flus better for ourselves. The hiding of the stats is a bad sign that we are being lied to and manipulated. I am also alarmed that you keep trying to spin and make up nonsense including the non existent 10 healthy young people. We have what the doctor says about all of her patients (that none got seriously ill) and we have the few others being mentioned in other nations (that SO far are also reporting none got seriously ill.)

Secondly, those being reported on outside of SA publically in the news as having Omicron are doctors themselves----so I assume not young on average who are also reporting a big nothing burger of the disease. Meanwhile our ever lying their asses off government and media desperately trying to make Omicron sound like the big bad as they seek to steal billions $$$$ to innoculate the africans and whatever else that they can think of to justify the steal, are unable to list any deaths or any serious illness either despite their motives. A very contagious covid that doesn't kill but that might create herd immunity could be a huge BLESSING, not the nightmare that so many including yourself hope for.

The covid kung flus haven't been hitting their hardest in the africa nations for whatever reasons, but if this continues where Omicron is not making people seriously ill even outside of africa-------I say fuck it--perfect opportunity to see if the killer virus's who lose their killing abilities as they mutate to a more contagious less deadly strain are a way that nature naturally creates herd immunity to prevent virus's from sending any species into extinction. Let Omicron spread unhampered....with no need to panic anyone over a basically a now flu bug while keeping our fingers crossed that it actually brings a safer Herd Immunity to all for free. Stop pharma profiting from fucking up this natural defense by trying to make people immune to the natural herd immunity.

You are living on fantasies, not facts.

There is no serious evidence Omnicron is benign, you simply would like to believe that and so you do.

CDC publishes all Covid data. You just don't happen to like it, so you reject it for some conspiratorial fantasy about government witholding true data from you.

 

[badger2]

Honey the doctor saw many people with omicron---she is reporting no deaths and no real issues. I am assuming her SAMPLE is not just 10 young people. I remain alarmed that our corrupt government and globalists don't release the stats to the public so we are better informed and can see and gage the covid kung flus better for ourselves. The hiding of the stats is a bad sign that we are being lied to and manipulated. I am also alarmed that you keep trying to spin and make up nonsense including the non existent 10 healthy young people. We have what the doctor says about all of her patients (that none got seriously ill) and we have the few others being mentioned in other nations (that SO far are also reporting none got seriously ill.)

Secondly, those being reported on outside of SA publically in the news as having Omicron are doctors themselves----so I assume not young on average who are also reporting a big nothing burger of the disease. Meanwhile our ever lying their asses off government and media desperately trying to make Omicron sound like the big bad as they seek to steal billions $$$$ to innoculate the africans and whatever else that they can think of to justify the steal, are unable to list any deaths or any serious illness either despite their motives. A very contagious covid that doesn't kill but that might create herd immunity could be a huge BLESSING, not the nightmare that so many including yourself hope for.

The covid kung flus haven't been hitting their hardest in the africa nations for whatever reasons, but if this continues where Omicron is not making people seriously ill even outside of africa-------I say fuck it--perfect opportunity to see if the killer virus's who lose their killing abilities as they mutate to a more contagious less deadly strain are a way that nature naturally creates herd immunity to prevent virus's from sending any species into extinction. Let Omicron spread unhampered....with no need to panic anyone over a basically a now flu bug while keeping our fingers crossed that it actually brings a safer Herd Immunity to all for free. Stop pharma profiting from fucking up this natural defense by trying to make people immune to the natural herd immunity.

Hiding the stats: who received which vaccine, their age and gender.