Patient Zero for the Omicron variant of Covid was fully vaccinated

[marvin martian]

Facts are facts, there's no way this man could have gotten on a plane from South Africa to Hong Kong without proof of vaccination.

Vaccinated people are creating and spreading new variants of this disease.

COVID-19: How the spread of Omicron went from patient zero to all around the globe

On 12 November, a man arriving in Hong Kong from South Africa was tested and found to be positive for a COVID variant that is now ringing alarm bells across the planet. Here's what alerted the world to the threat.

news.sky.com

Patient zero, called n=1 or the index case by the scientific community, arrived at Hong Kong International Airport on 11 November, having flown in from South Africa via Doha in Qatar, on flight QR818.

He had been in South Africa for almost three weeks, and had tested negative the day before he began his trip there.

On his return to the territory on the Qatar Airways flight, the 36-year-old was in seat 31A, and was showing no symptoms when he checked into the Regal Airport Hotel in Chek Lap Kok, to begin his mandatory quarantine. He also tested negative on his return.


Hong Kong has some of the most stringent regulations on arrival in the world.

Anyone coming from a "high-risk" country can only board flights for the territory if they are fully-vaccinated Hong Kong residents and even then they have to undergo compulsory isolation for 21 days in a designated quarantine hotel when they arrive.

 

[pknopp]

Just for the sake of discussion. In most arguments it's noted that this variant is pretty weak. Symptoms are mild. Is that because he was vaccinated?

 

[Otis Mayfield]

So he had forged documents?

 

[marvin martian]

So he had forged documents?

No. You've been lied to. Read the story, his vaccination dates were verified.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

Just for the sake of discussion. In most arguments it's noted that this variant is pretty weak. Symptoms are mild. Is that because he was vaccinated?

Covid in general is pretty 'weak'.

Never stopped them before.

Get that balloon knot lubed up.

BOHICA.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Let's see how this one goes.

I know that the vaccinated already need a booster. I think England is pushing the booster after only three months.

I'm not against someone getting vaccinated, each of us have to make our own health decisions. That last sentence is where I stand in general on the issue. Countries are basically forcing people to get vaccinated by limiting their life.

 

[pknopp]

Covid in general is pretty 'weak'.

Never stopped them before.

Get that balloon knot lubed up.

BOHICA.

There is evidence that the vaccine helps to keep the virus from not being as harmful.

 

[Turtlesoup]

Just for the sake of discussion. In most arguments it's noted that this variant is pretty weak. Symptoms are mild. Is that because he was vaccinated?

So why aren't the unvaccinated getting the omicron version? Or if they are, are their symptoms also mild? And if so, can we create herd immunity by exposing people to the omicron version of covid (like cow pox for small pox) creating immunity against the more deadly strains.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

There is evidence that the vaccine helps to keep the virus from not being as harmful.

Great...and the death rates among the unvaccinated prior to the vaccine's introduction?

.2%-.5% dependent upon the population...comorbidities...over 80 years...blah blah

Anyone under 50 with no comorbidities .001?...maybe?

But keep believing the bullshit.

BAAAAAAAAAH!..........BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!

 

[pknopp]

So why aren't the unvaccinated getting the omicron version? Or if they are, are their symptoms also mild? And if so, can we create herd immunity by exposing people to the omicron version of covid (like cow pox for small pox) creating immunity against the more deadly strains.

While my argument is that there is proof that vaccines can lessen the symptoms I believe herd immunity can also for those who survive round one.

Now as to why, I would guess because it's still fairly new and for the record, "new variety" doesn't impress me much. To me the way this is playing out, it's just covid that is weaker than it once was.

 

[pknopp]

Great...and the death rates among the unvaccinated prior to the vaccine's introduction?

.2%-.5% dependent upon the population...comorbidities...over 80 years...blah blah

Anyone under 50 with no comorbidities .001?...maybe?

But keep believing the bullshit.

BAAAAAAAAAH!..........BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!

Bite me. You didn't dispute anything I said.

 

[colfax_m]

Just for the sake of discussion. In most arguments it's noted that this variant is pretty weak. Symptoms are mild. Is that because he was vaccinated?

I don't think we have anywhere near enough information to know if the variant is weak or not.

 

[pknopp]

I don't think we have anywhere near enough information to know if the variant is weak or not.

Perhaps not but so far that is the narrative.

 

[colfax_m]

Perhaps not but so far that is the narrative.

I mean, I hope you're right, but that assessment seems to have been the personal experience of an individual doctor in South Africa.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

Bite me. You didn't dispute anything I said.

I don't debate rote propaganda bots.

It's fuckin pointless...stop watching your idiot box.

 

[Darkwind]

Oooo. Best run and hide until the government tells you it's okay to go outside and play again.

 

[Crepitus]

Facts are facts, there's no way this man could have gotten on a plane from South Africa to Hong Kong without proof of vaccination.

Vaccinated people are creating and spreading new variants of this disease.

COVID-19: How the spread of Omicron went from patient zero to all around the globe

On 12 November, a man arriving in Hong Kong from South Africa was tested and found to be positive for a COVID variant that is now ringing alarm bells across the planet. Here's what alerted the world to the threat.

news.sky.com

Patient zero, called n=1 or the index case by the scientific community, arrived at Hong Kong International Airport on 11 November, having flown in from South Africa via Doha in Qatar, on flight QR818.

He had been in South Africa for almost three weeks, and had tested negative the day before he began his trip there.

On his return to the territory on the Qatar Airways flight, the 36-year-old was in seat 31A, and was showing no symptoms when he checked into the Regal Airport Hotel in Chek Lap Kok, to begin his mandatory quarantine. He also tested negative on his return.


Hong Kong has some of the most stringent regulations on arrival in the world.

Anyone coming from a "high-risk" country can only board flights for the territory if they are fully-vaccinated Hong Kong residents and even then they have to undergo compulsory isolation for 21 days in a designated quarantine hotel when they arrive.

China's vaccine is known to be less effective.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

No worries, big pharma was working on some new omicron snake juice before the new variant even came out. They sure are on top of things.

 

[pknopp]

I don't debate rote propaganda bots.


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It's fuckin pointless...stop watching your idiot box.

And still you are unable to refute anything I said.

 

[MarathonMike]

colfax_m Agreed it is very early, but the early reports are promising. As a whole we tend to have knee jerk reactions to everything because of the near instantaneous spread of information over the internet.