Parents Of Michigan High School Shooting Suspect Charged With Four Counts Of Involuntary Manslaughter

[pknopp]

Yep....which is why I am not jumping on the bandwagon to hang the parents.....

At this point, fair enough. We will have to see.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Well, the parents who "didn't run away" just got caught hidding after running away.

I saw that. Thanks for posting.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

It’s not about the gun. It’s about the fact they knew their son wanted to shoot his classmates and they did nothing.

This all about the gun. Its a direct attack on all gun owners

 

[braalian]

This all about the gun. Its a direct attack on all gun owners

Yes, fine, I’m sure many leftists are using this as an opportunity to push their anti-gun agenda.

That doesn’t change the fact that, in this particular case, the parents deserve to go to jail for everything else they did.

 

[2aguy]

At this point, fair enough. We will have to see.

Yep.......

 

[braalian]

Just as it’s wrong to demonize all gun owners, so is it wrong to defend these parents just *because* they are gun owners.

they have a right to be gun owners and gun enthusiasts and to pass that on to their children.

they’re *also* responsible, when the school shows them evidence that their son is homicidally unbalanced and talking about shooting his classmates, to remove the kid from school or at least speak up about the fact that they recently purchased him a gun.

Both POV’s can be true. They’re not mutually exclusive.

 

[2aguy]

Suspect's parents charged with 4 counts of homicide involuntary manslaughter

The parents of the Michigan school shooting suspect have been charged with four counts each of homicide involuntary manslaughter. Follow here for the latest.

www.cnn.com

It looks like the school terrorist's parents in Michigan will be called to account, as well they should be. A 15 year old has no business with a firearm, regardless of the circumstances, nada. Bigly

What about the black teenager who shot 3 people at his school, was given bail, released in a day, and given a party by his parent/parents?

Were they arrested for attempted manslaughter?

 

[2aguy]

Just as it’s wrong to demonize all gun owners, so is it wrong to defend these parents just *because* they are gun owners.

they have a right to be gun owners and gun enthusiasts and to pass that on to their children.

they’re *also* responsible, when the school shows them evidence that their son is homicidally unbalanced and talking about shooting his classmates, to remove the kid from school or at least speak up about the fact that they recently purchased him a gun.

Both POV’s can be true. They’re not mutually exclusive.

You forgot on point of view...

We don't know anything about these parents or this situation.......

What we allegedly know is that that day, the day of the shooting, the school gave them notice of a disturbing picture and gave them 48 hours to do "something," about the boy.....

So the school didn't think he was an immediate or deadly threat....right? Given what they did.......right?

So the parents were trying to digest what they knew from the school when the shooting happened..........right? They could very well have decided to send this kid to counseling and been on the phone when the attack happened......right?

So making pronouncements as to their culpability is just dumb....

Meanwhile...again.......a black teeanger who actually shot 3 people in his school.......you know, something far worse than a disturbing picture, as a warning as to being dangerous........was given bail, and released from jail......now that is just hard to process.......and then given a party by his parent/parents....

Where was the call to arrest his parent/parents for his shooting....you know, where he shot 3 people in a school?

So......until we know more, and actually understand everything that was going on here, your posts are kind of silly.

 

[braalian]

What about the black teenager who shot 3 people at his school, was given bail, released in a day, and given a party by his parent/parents?

Were they arrested for attempted manslaughter?

if someone showed them beforehand that he was planning to do the shooting and they ignored it, then yes, they should have been. Did that happen in that case?

In this particular case, it’s all about what happened *before* the shooting.

 

[2aguy]

if someone showed them beforehand that he was planning to do the shooting and they ignored it, then yes, they should have been. Did that happen in that case?

In this particular case, it’s all about what happened *before* the shooting.

A picture.......

How do you know they ignored it?

Please...explain...how do you know they ignored it......

They were told that day, that there was this picture......and given 48 hours....how do you know what they did or didn't do, or what they were thinking about as they left that office.....how soon could you get help to your kid in that situation?

Please.........they were called in to one meeting that we know of, the day the shooting happened.....hours before the shooting happened...get off of your high horse, engage your brain....

The school knew about the picture and the writing, and did not think he was an immediate and deadly threat...which is why they didn't order him off of the campus...........

So try again....think first...

 

[john doe 101]

We are not other countries

Americans have constitutional rights that people in other countries do not have

Mentally ill people should not own or have access to guns in their household. You obviously disagree with that. So we'll never agree on this subject.

 

[2aguy]

if someone showed them beforehand that he was planning to do the shooting and they ignored it, then yes, they should have been. Did that happen in that case?

In this particular case, it’s all about what happened *before* the shooting.

Meanwhile.....we don't have a picture with words....we have a black teenager who shot 3 people....actually shot 3 people with a gun..

Do we know where his gun came from? Was it his parent/parents? Were they arrested for attempted manslaughter?

And he was out on bail, one day after the shooting...and given a party....

And we are to assume he won't shoot anyone else.....?

Please...try harder.

 

[2aguy]

Mentally ill people should not own or have access to guns in their household. You obviously disagree with that. So we'll never agree on this subject.

Is a veteran who has insomnia mentally ill?

So until you define "mentally ill," you are an idiot for saying mentally ill people can't own guns...

 

[braalian]

You forgot on point of view...

We don't know anything about these parents or this situation.......

What we allegedly know is that that day, the day of the shooting, the school gave them notice of a disturbing picture and gave them 48 hours to do "something," about the boy.....

So the school didn't think he was an immediate or deadly threat....right? Given what they did.......right?

So the parents were trying to digest what they knew from the school when the shooting happened..........right? They could very well have decided to send this kid to counseling and been on the phone when the attack happened......right?

So making pronouncements as to their culpability is just dumb....

Meanwhile...again.......a black teeanger who actually shot 3 people in his school.......you know, something far worse than a disturbing picture, as a warning as to being dangerous........was given bail, and released from jail......now that is just hard to process.......and then given a party by his parent/parents....

Where was the call to arrest his parent/parents for his shooting....you know, where he shot 3 people in a school?

So......until we know more, and actually understand everything that was going on here, your posts are kind of silly.

Yep, everyone who saw that picture and allowed this kid to remain in school and kill people only a couple hours after the conference is responsible. This includes the school staff involved. I’ve said that many times.

But the parents also knew things the school didn’t. They knew their son had recently been gifted a gun. They failed to share this clearly relèvent information with the school during the conference. That will also hurt them (the parents) in court.

 

[2aguy]

Yep, everyone who saw that picture and allowed this kid to remain in school and kill people only a couple hours after the conference is responsible. This includes the school staff involved. I’ve said that many times.

But the parents also knew things the school didn’t. They knew their son had recently been gifted a gun. They failed to share this clearly relèvent information with the school during the conference. That will also hurt them (the parents) in court.

How do you know that? You are ASSuming a lot that you just don't know.......

How do you know they hadn't planned on taking that pistol back to the gun store after the meeting? How do you know what happened here?

You don't........

He obviously wasn't seen as an immediate and deadly threat by the actual authorities involved......

We need to wait to see what actually happened....

 

[August West]

Yes, fine, I’m sure many leftists are using this as an opportunity to push their anti-gun agenda.

That doesn’t change the fact that, in this particular case, the parents deserve to go to jail for everything else they did.

If we say that this kid shouldn`t have had a gun are we pushing our anti-gun agenda? What exactly is our anti-gun agenda?

 

[2aguy]

If we say that this kid shouldn`t have had a gun are we pushing our anti-gun agenda? What exactly is our anti-gun agenda?

Your anti-gun agenda is calling for banning and confiscating guns, and while you are waiting for the power to do that, creating taxes, fees, fines and red tape to keep normal people from owning guns...

Then you call out stories like this too....

 

[Mac-7]

Mentally ill people should not own or have access to guns in their household. You obviously disagree with that. So we'll never agree on this subject.

I’m guessing you are not a professional shrink

If you were and if you can convince a judge that someone is a danger to society that person needs to be in a hospital

But all you really want is to gut the 2nd amendment

 

[ClaireH]

Just as it’s wrong to demonize all gun owners, so is it wrong to defend these parents just *because* they are gun owners.

they have a right to be gun owners and gun enthusiasts and to pass that on to their children.

they’re *also* responsible, when the school shows them evidence that their son is homicidally unbalanced and talking about shooting his classmates, to remove the kid from school or at least speak up about the fact that they recently purchased him a gun.

Both POV’s can be true. They’re not mutually exclusive.

There’s been a lot of talk about illegal versus legal gun storage according to Michigan law.


“You may be criminally and civilly liable for any harm caused by a person less than 18 years of age who lawfully gains unsupervised access to your firearm if unlawfully stored. As such, a trigger lock, gun case or other device designed to prevent unauthorized access to a firearm is strongly recommended.”

“The improper storage of a firearm at home could result in the arming of a criminal breaking into the home or the injury or death of a child who discovers the firearm and plays with it.”

https://www.michigan.gov/documents/msp/msp-203_-_PDF_286476_7.pdf

 

[M14 Shooter]

2(c) Created a situation where the risk of serious bodily injury or death was very high ...

That's #2 of three. All three must exist for a charge of manslaughter.