Parenting Transgender Youth

[ChrisL]

Do you think perhaps that might play a role in his "confusion" about his gender/sex?

That has been fully evaluated by 5 doctors, none of whom suggest telling him he's a girl, give it up.

I'm sorry, but there is no "cure" for some mental illnesses, but potentially dangerous and life-altering surgery and hormonal therapy (which is known to cause health problems) is not the answer when a person has a perfectly healthy and normally functioning body.

Stop crucifying this person. Who the hell do you think you are?

And how, pray tell, am I "crucifying" anyone? I'm simply responding to a thread that was created with my thoughts and opinions on the matter. Lol. You need to calm down I think.

I'm calm and I'm trying to listen to Dhara, but all you're doing is judging and making snarky remarks.

I haven't made any "snarky" remarks, nor have I made any judgments. I am stating my opinions and feelings on the topic.

 

[Lilah]

I'm listening to this parent, and the parent is listening to their child and trying to understand how the teenager feels, and what makes him happy.
Transgenderism is an alien topic to most of us; therefore, we should listen and try to understand rather than taking the easy road and offer our judgments.
Admittedly, I cringe at the thought of Bruce Jenner changing into Caitlyn Jenner, but I don't know everything.

Brilliant. May we all be this enlightened.

Dhara, you are the enlightened one.
My grandmother was a psychiatrist, brilliant, and she taught me never to judge, but I do. Listening to you reminds me that we all need to learn tolerance and love.

So, would you give your 16-year-old child permission to take potentially dangerous hormones and then have a potentially dangerous operation?

I can't possibly answer your question.
When his son turns 18, should the son be able to make his own decisions?

The son is not 18. The son is 16. Would you give your permission to give your daughter or son possibly dangerous chemicals because he or she thought they were the opposite "gender?" It's a simple and straightforward question.

Do you really want me to give you an honest answer for a hypothetical question? I'm not invested in the situation; therefore, surely you can understand my opinion doesn't matter.

 

[ChrisL]

I would be very interested to find out about what went on in his past life.

Why can't you listen to the young person who feels as though he is a male. Listen to him!

One may listen without enabling.

Just sayin'.

One may listen and also love unconditionally.
The young person going through this needs to be heard and understood.

I don't know this young person, nor am I speaking with him. Lol.

He is speaking through Dhara. Have you paid attention?

What in the hell are you talking about?

 

[Lilah]

That has been fully evaluated by 5 doctors, none of whom suggest telling him he's a girl, give it up.

I'm sorry, but there is no "cure" for some mental illnesses, but potentially dangerous and life-altering surgery and hormonal therapy (which is known to cause health problems) is not the answer when a person has a perfectly healthy and normally functioning body.

Stop crucifying this person. Who the hell do you think you are?

And how, pray tell, am I "crucifying" anyone? I'm simply responding to a thread that was created with my thoughts and opinions on the matter. Lol. You need to calm down I think.

I'm calm and I'm trying to listen to Dhara, but all you're doing is judging and making snarky remarks.

I haven't made any "snarky" remarks, nor have I made any judgments. I am stating my opinions and feelings on the topic.

Of course you've made judgments. Do back and read your posts.

 

[ChrisL]

Brilliant. May we all be this enlightened.

Dhara, you are the enlightened one.
My grandmother was a psychiatrist, brilliant, and she taught me never to judge, but I do. Listening to you reminds me that we all need to learn tolerance and love.

So, would you give your 16-year-old child permission to take potentially dangerous hormones and then have a potentially dangerous operation?

I can't possibly answer your question.
When his son turns 18, should the son be able to make his own decisions?

The son is not 18. The son is 16. Would you give your permission to give your daughter or son possibly dangerous chemicals because he or she thought they were the opposite "gender?" It's a simple and straightforward question.

Do you really want me to give you an honest answer for a hypothetical question? I'm not invested in the situation; therefore, surely you can understand my opinion doesn't matter.

Well, yes, I want to know. That is why I asked. Do you have any children? If so, would you give them hormonal therapy and be okay with that because your 16-year-old child says that is what he or she wanted, even knowing there are dangerous side effects such as cancer?

 

[ChrisL]

I'm sorry, but there is no "cure" for some mental illnesses, but potentially dangerous and life-altering surgery and hormonal therapy (which is known to cause health problems) is not the answer when a person has a perfectly healthy and normally functioning body.

Stop crucifying this person. Who the hell do you think you are?

And how, pray tell, am I "crucifying" anyone? I'm simply responding to a thread that was created with my thoughts and opinions on the matter. Lol. You need to calm down I think.

I'm calm and I'm trying to listen to Dhara, but all you're doing is judging and making snarky remarks.

I haven't made any "snarky" remarks, nor have I made any judgments. I am stating my opinions and feelings on the topic.

Of course you've made judgments. Do back and read your posts.

I already know what I've posted. My opinions on the matter. Now, get a grip on yourself.

 

[anotherlife]

No problem here, gender reassignment surgeries have already been pioneered by Doctor mengele in Auschwitz. We are talking about a Jewish adoption here. Straightforward, no mystery here. Hehehe.

 

[Lilah]

Dhara, you are the enlightened one.
My grandmother was a psychiatrist, brilliant, and she taught me never to judge, but I do. Listening to you reminds me that we all need to learn tolerance and love.

So, would you give your 16-year-old child permission to take potentially dangerous hormones and then have a potentially dangerous operation?

I can't possibly answer your question.
When his son turns 18, should the son be able to make his own decisions?

The son is not 18. The son is 16. Would you give your permission to give your daughter or son possibly dangerous chemicals because he or she thought they were the opposite "gender?" It's a simple and straightforward question.

Do you really want me to give you an honest answer for a hypothetical question? I'm not invested in the situation; therefore, surely you can understand my opinion doesn't matter.

Well, yes, I want to know. That is why I asked. Do you have any children? If so, would you give them hormonal therapy and be okay with that because your 16-year-old child says that is what he or she wanted, even knowing there are dangerous side effects such as cancer?

No, I don't have children. Children are given medications all the time which may affect them adversely.
I'm trying to understand how a transgender person feels and why they feel the way they do.

 

[Lilah]

Stop crucifying this person. Who the hell do you think you are?

And how, pray tell, am I "crucifying" anyone? I'm simply responding to a thread that was created with my thoughts and opinions on the matter. Lol. You need to calm down I think.

I'm calm and I'm trying to listen to Dhara, but all you're doing is judging and making snarky remarks.

I haven't made any "snarky" remarks, nor have I made any judgments. I am stating my opinions and feelings on the topic.

Of course you've made judgments. Do back and read your posts.

I already know what I've posted. My opinions on the matter. Now, get a grip on yourself.

I read your judgments, and if you can't own them, grab hold of own self.

 

[ChrisL]

So, would you give your 16-year-old child permission to take potentially dangerous hormones and then have a potentially dangerous operation?

I can't possibly answer your question.
When his son turns 18, should the son be able to make his own decisions?

The son is not 18. The son is 16. Would you give your permission to give your daughter or son possibly dangerous chemicals because he or she thought they were the opposite "gender?" It's a simple and straightforward question.

Do you really want me to give you an honest answer for a hypothetical question? I'm not invested in the situation; therefore, surely you can understand my opinion doesn't matter.

Well, yes, I want to know. That is why I asked. Do you have any children? If so, would you give them hormonal therapy and be okay with that because your 16-year-old child says that is what he or she wanted, even knowing there are dangerous side effects such as cancer?

No, I don't have children. Children are given medications all the time which may affect them adversely.
I'm trying to understand how a transgender person feels and why they feel the way they do.

So, what if you did have a daughter who thought she was a boy? Would you give her hormonal therapy to stop her "maturity" and that are, otherwise, medically risky? It's a simple question.

 

[ChrisL]

And how, pray tell, am I "crucifying" anyone? I'm simply responding to a thread that was created with my thoughts and opinions on the matter. Lol. You need to calm down I think.

I'm calm and I'm trying to listen to Dhara, but all you're doing is judging and making snarky remarks.

I haven't made any "snarky" remarks, nor have I made any judgments. I am stating my opinions and feelings on the topic.

Of course you've made judgments. Do back and read your posts.

I already know what I've posted. My opinions on the matter. Now, get a grip on yourself.

I read your judgments, and if you can't own them, grab hold of own self.

I've posted my opinions on this matter. I suppose every thread WE reply to could be construed as "judgments". That is the nature of a message board. Now, stop with the personal attacks and participate in the discussion like an adult.

 

[Lilah]

I can't possibly answer your question.
When his son turns 18, should the son be able to make his own decisions?

The son is not 18. The son is 16. Would you give your permission to give your daughter or son possibly dangerous chemicals because he or she thought they were the opposite "gender?" It's a simple and straightforward question.

Do you really want me to give you an honest answer for a hypothetical question? I'm not invested in the situation; therefore, surely you can understand my opinion doesn't matter.

Well, yes, I want to know. That is why I asked. Do you have any children? If so, would you give them hormonal therapy and be okay with that because your 16-year-old child says that is what he or she wanted, even knowing there are dangerous side effects such as cancer?

No, I don't have children. Children are given medications all the time which may affect them adversely.
I'm trying to understand how a transgender person feels and why they feel the way they do.

So, what if you did have a daughter who thought she was a boy? Would you give her hormonal therapy to stop her "maturity" and that are, otherwise, medically risky? It's a simple question.

Are you mental? How do you expect me to answer such a hypothetical scenario? What if your child expressed to you that they were having a gender identity crisis. What would you do?

 

[Lilah]

I'm calm and I'm trying to listen to Dhara, but all you're doing is judging and making snarky remarks.

I haven't made any "snarky" remarks, nor have I made any judgments. I am stating my opinions and feelings on the topic.

Of course you've made judgments. Do back and read your posts.

I already know what I've posted. My opinions on the matter. Now, get a grip on yourself.

I read your judgments, and if you can't own them, grab hold of own self.

I've posted my opinions on this matter. I suppose every thread WE reply to could be construed as "judgments". That is the nature of a message board. Now, stop with the personal attacks and participate in the discussion like an adult.

I think we all know who the adult here is; it's me.

 

[ChrisL]

I think a past history of abuse plays a major role in "gender confusion." I don't think hormones and surgery are going to "cure" these issues. In fact, they could possibly make them even worse, since changing a boy into a girl and vice versa is biologically impossible. It is important to teach your children to be happy with who they are and to teach them that there is much, much more to life than their genitals and their sexuality.

 

[ChrisL]

The son is not 18. The son is 16. Would you give your permission to give your daughter or son possibly dangerous chemicals because he or she thought they were the opposite "gender?" It's a simple and straightforward question.

Do you really want me to give you an honest answer for a hypothetical question? I'm not invested in the situation; therefore, surely you can understand my opinion doesn't matter.

Well, yes, I want to know. That is why I asked. Do you have any children? If so, would you give them hormonal therapy and be okay with that because your 16-year-old child says that is what he or she wanted, even knowing there are dangerous side effects such as cancer?

No, I don't have children. Children are given medications all the time which may affect them adversely.
I'm trying to understand how a transgender person feels and why they feel the way they do.

So, what if you did have a daughter who thought she was a boy? Would you give her hormonal therapy to stop her "maturity" and that are, otherwise, medically risky? It's a simple question.

Are you mental? How do you expect me to answer such a hypothetical scenario? What if your child expressed to you that they were having a gender identity crisis. What would you do?

I wouldn't give them hormones and I would advise against surgery and hormones if they were over 18 and implore that they get the psychiatric help that they need.

 

[anotherlife]

So, would you give your 16-year-old child permission to take potentially dangerous hormones and then have a potentially dangerous operation?

I can't possibly answer your question.
When his son turns 18, should the son be able to make his own decisions?

The son is not 18. The son is 16. Would you give your permission to give your daughter or son possibly dangerous chemicals because he or she thought they were the opposite "gender?" It's a simple and straightforward question.

Do you really want me to give you an honest answer for a hypothetical question? I'm not invested in the situation; therefore, surely you can understand my opinion doesn't matter.

Well, yes, I want to know. That is why I asked. Do you have any children? If so, would you give them hormonal therapy and be okay with that because your 16-year-old child says that is what he or she wanted, even knowing there are dangerous side effects such as cancer?

No, I don't have children. Children are given medications all the time which may affect them adversely.
I'm trying to understand how a transgender person feels and why they feel the way they do.

This has been widely studied, until it was shut down for political purposes. The core of transgender and homosexual feelings is the clinical inability to get satisfaction, at minimum at the mental level.

 

[ChrisL]

A past history of abuse, neglect and having a very low self esteem most definitely play a role in this kind of confusion, very similar to the anorexic who thinks she is "fat."

 

[Lilah]

I think a past history of abuse plays a major role in "gender confusion." I don't think hormones and surgery are going to "cure" these issues. In fact, they could possibly make them even worse, since changing a boy into a girl and vice versa is biologically impossible. It is important to teach your children to be happy with who they are and to teach them that there is much, much more to life than their genitals and their sexuality.

A history of abuse can manifest into many areas of confusion. Why are you looking for an excuse to not listen.
Bruce Jenner was not abused.

 

[ChrisL]

I haven't made any "snarky" remarks, nor have I made any judgments. I am stating my opinions and feelings on the topic.

Of course you've made judgments. Do back and read your posts.

I already know what I've posted. My opinions on the matter. Now, get a grip on yourself.

I read your judgments, and if you can't own them, grab hold of own self.

I've posted my opinions on this matter. I suppose every thread WE reply to could be construed as "judgments". That is the nature of a message board. Now, stop with the personal attacks and participate in the discussion like an adult.

I think we all know who the adult here is; it's me.

I don't think so. Lol. If you cannot handle opposing opinions on a message board, then you are no adult.

 

[Lilah]

I can't possibly answer your question.
When his son turns 18, should the son be able to make his own decisions?

The son is not 18. The son is 16. Would you give your permission to give your daughter or son possibly dangerous chemicals because he or she thought they were the opposite "gender?" It's a simple and straightforward question.

Do you really want me to give you an honest answer for a hypothetical question? I'm not invested in the situation; therefore, surely you can understand my opinion doesn't matter.

Well, yes, I want to know. That is why I asked. Do you have any children? If so, would you give them hormonal therapy and be okay with that because your 16-year-old child says that is what he or she wanted, even knowing there are dangerous side effects such as cancer?

No, I don't have children. Children are given medications all the time which may affect them adversely.
I'm trying to understand how a transgender person feels and why they feel the way they do.

This has been widely studied, until it was shut down for political purposes. The core of transgender and homosexual feelings is the clinical inability to get satisfaction, at minimum at the mental level.

Do you speak with authority?