Parenting Transgender Youth

[ChrisL]

I think a past history of abuse plays a major role in "gender confusion." I don't think hormones and surgery are going to "cure" these issues. In fact, they could possibly make them even worse, since changing a boy into a girl and vice versa is biologically impossible. It is important to teach your children to be happy with who they are and to teach them that there is much, much more to life than their genitals and their sexuality.

A history of abuse can manifest into many areas of confusion. Why are you looking for an excuse to not listen.
Bruce Jenner was not abused.

How do you know? Abuse can take many different forms. What do you know of Bruce Jenner's upbringing?

 

[anotherlife]

Do you really want me to give you an honest answer for a hypothetical question? I'm not invested in the situation; therefore, surely you can understand my opinion doesn't matter.

Well, yes, I want to know. That is why I asked. Do you have any children? If so, would you give them hormonal therapy and be okay with that because your 16-year-old child says that is what he or she wanted, even knowing there are dangerous side effects such as cancer?

No, I don't have children. Children are given medications all the time which may affect them adversely.
I'm trying to understand how a transgender person feels and why they feel the way they do.

So, what if you did have a daughter who thought she was a boy? Would you give her hormonal therapy to stop her "maturity" and that are, otherwise, medically risky? It's a simple question.

Are you mental? How do you expect me to answer such a hypothetical scenario? What if your child expressed to you that they were having a gender identity crisis. What would you do?

I wouldn't give them hormones and I would advise against surgery and hormones if they were over 18 and implore that they get the psychiatric help that they need.

Psychiatry of parenting induced, but neurosurgery more like when the problem is so severe, likely indicating physical trauma.

 

[Lilah]

Of course you've made judgments. Do back and read your posts.

I already know what I've posted. My opinions on the matter. Now, get a grip on yourself.

I read your judgments, and if you can't own them, grab hold of own self.

I've posted my opinions on this matter. I suppose every thread WE reply to could be construed as "judgments". That is the nature of a message board. Now, stop with the personal attacks and participate in the discussion like an adult.

I think we all know who the adult here is; it's me.

I don't think so. Lol. If you cannot handle opposing opinions on a message board, then you are no adult.

I'm not the one who is refusing to listen, and I've made no judgments.

 

[ChrisL]

There are also mental illnesses where a person needs "attention" at any cost. That in itself is a type of mental disorder.

 

[Lilah]

I think a past history of abuse plays a major role in "gender confusion." I don't think hormones and surgery are going to "cure" these issues. In fact, they could possibly make them even worse, since changing a boy into a girl and vice versa is biologically impossible. It is important to teach your children to be happy with who they are and to teach them that there is much, much more to life than their genitals and their sexuality.

A history of abuse can manifest into many areas of confusion. Why are you looking for an excuse to not listen.
Bruce Jenner was not abused.

How do you know? Abuse can take many different forms. What do you know of Bruce Jenner's upbringing?

Only what he revealed to Diane Sawyer, saying he had a nice home life, but he always wanted to dress as a girl.

 

[ChrisL]

I already know what I've posted. My opinions on the matter. Now, get a grip on yourself.

I read your judgments, and if you can't own them, grab hold of own self.

I've posted my opinions on this matter. I suppose every thread WE reply to could be construed as "judgments". That is the nature of a message board. Now, stop with the personal attacks and participate in the discussion like an adult.

I think we all know who the adult here is; it's me.

I don't think so. Lol. If you cannot handle opposing opinions on a message board, then you are no adult.

I'm not the one who is refusing to listen, and I've made no judgments.

I have been listening. I just disagree. I think there is much more to this issue than simply "genitals" and sexuality. It is important to teach your children to be happy with who they are.

 

[Lilah]

There are also mental illnesses where a person needs "attention" at any cost. That in itself is a type of mental disorder.

No one is disputing that mental illnesses exist. What's your point?

 

[ChrisL]

I think a past history of abuse plays a major role in "gender confusion." I don't think hormones and surgery are going to "cure" these issues. In fact, they could possibly make them even worse, since changing a boy into a girl and vice versa is biologically impossible. It is important to teach your children to be happy with who they are and to teach them that there is much, much more to life than their genitals and their sexuality.

A history of abuse can manifest into many areas of confusion. Why are you looking for an excuse to not listen.
Bruce Jenner was not abused.

How do you know? Abuse can take many different forms. What do you know of Bruce Jenner's upbringing?

Only what he revealed to Diane Sawyer, saying he had a nice home life, but he always wanted to dress as a girl.

A lot of people who were abused don't even realize it, a distant mother who didn't pay a lot of attention, an absent father figure, as well as just plain old mental illness, and then these factors combine to compound the problems.

 

[anotherlife]

The son is not 18. The son is 16. Would you give your permission to give your daughter or son possibly dangerous chemicals because he or she thought they were the opposite "gender?" It's a simple and straightforward question.

Do you really want me to give you an honest answer for a hypothetical question? I'm not invested in the situation; therefore, surely you can understand my opinion doesn't matter.

Well, yes, I want to know. That is why I asked. Do you have any children? If so, would you give them hormonal therapy and be okay with that because your 16-year-old child says that is what he or she wanted, even knowing there are dangerous side effects such as cancer?

No, I don't have children. Children are given medications all the time which may affect them adversely.
I'm trying to understand how a transgender person feels and why they feel the way they do.

This has been widely studied, until it was shut down for political purposes. The core of transgender and homosexual feelings is the clinical inability to get satisfaction, at minimum at the mental level.

Do you speak with authority?

I am a student, although not of medicine (maths). But I know a few people, and my statement squares not only with medical literature, but also with my direct observations. Is that good enough?

 

[ChrisL]

There are also mental illnesses where a person needs "attention" at any cost. That in itself is a type of mental disorder.

No one is disputing that mental illnesses exist. What's your point?

Who's not listening now? Lol. I think I've made my stance on this issue quite clear.

 

[Lilah]

I read your judgments, and if you can't own them, grab hold of own self.

I've posted my opinions on this matter. I suppose every thread WE reply to could be construed as "judgments". That is the nature of a message board. Now, stop with the personal attacks and participate in the discussion like an adult.

I think we all know who the adult here is; it's me.

I don't think so. Lol. If you cannot handle opposing opinions on a message board, then you are no adult.

I'm not the one who is refusing to listen, and I've made no judgments.

I have been listening. I just disagree. I think there is much more to this issue than simply "genitals" and sexuality. It is important to teach your children to be happy with who they are.

Of course, parents should teach their children self-esteem, but apparently some children are experiencing gender identity, and I haven't heard them talking about their genitals; only you.

 

[ChrisL]

I'm actually a certified medical assistant, and I also majored in psychology for a while. I also type about patients with mental illness every single day and have for years, so I think I do know a little bit.

 

[Lilah]

Do you really want me to give you an honest answer for a hypothetical question? I'm not invested in the situation; therefore, surely you can understand my opinion doesn't matter.

Well, yes, I want to know. That is why I asked. Do you have any children? If so, would you give them hormonal therapy and be okay with that because your 16-year-old child says that is what he or she wanted, even knowing there are dangerous side effects such as cancer?

No, I don't have children. Children are given medications all the time which may affect them adversely.
I'm trying to understand how a transgender person feels and why they feel the way they do.

This has been widely studied, until it was shut down for political purposes. The core of transgender and homosexual feelings is the clinical inability to get satisfaction, at minimum at the mental level.

Do you speak with authority?

I am a student, although not of medicine (maths). But I know a few people, and my statement squares not only with medical literature, but also with my direct observations. Is that good enough?

Aren't we all students. Some of us choose to listen rather than dictate how life should be.

 

[ChrisL]

I've posted my opinions on this matter. I suppose every thread WE reply to could be construed as "judgments". That is the nature of a message board. Now, stop with the personal attacks and participate in the discussion like an adult.

I think we all know who the adult here is; it's me.

I don't think so. Lol. If you cannot handle opposing opinions on a message board, then you are no adult.

I'm not the one who is refusing to listen, and I've made no judgments.

I have been listening. I just disagree. I think there is much more to this issue than simply "genitals" and sexuality. It is important to teach your children to be happy with who they are.

Of course, parents should teach their children self-esteem, but apparently some children are experiencing gender identity, and I haven't heard them talking about their genitals; only you.

Is that not the ultimate goal? To change from a penis to a vagina or a vagina to a penis? Why do you think that is? Why so much emphasis on mutilating their genitals?

 

[Lilah]

I'm actually a certified medical assistant, and I also majored in psychology for a while. I also type about patients with mental illness every single day and have for years, so I think I do know a little bit.

Stop the presses! Do you offer diagnoses?

 

[ChrisL]

Well, yes, I want to know. That is why I asked. Do you have any children? If so, would you give them hormonal therapy and be okay with that because your 16-year-old child says that is what he or she wanted, even knowing there are dangerous side effects such as cancer?

No, I don't have children. Children are given medications all the time which may affect them adversely.
I'm trying to understand how a transgender person feels and why they feel the way they do.

This has been widely studied, until it was shut down for political purposes. The core of transgender and homosexual feelings is the clinical inability to get satisfaction, at minimum at the mental level.

Do you speak with authority?

I am a student, although not of medicine (maths). But I know a few people, and my statement squares not only with medical literature, but also with my direct observations. Is that good enough?

Aren't we all students. Some of us choose to listen rather than dictate how life should be.

The fact of the matter is that the suicide rates amongst those who are postoperative transsexuals remains extremely high. These hormones and surgery do not "cure" them.

 

[ChrisL]

I'm actually a certified medical assistant, and I also majored in psychology for a while. I also type about patients with mental illness every single day and have for years, so I think I do know a little bit.

Stop the presses! Do you offer diagnoses?

Nope, but I sure am probably more "qualified" to give my opinions on these types of matters than you are. No?

 

[Lilah]

I think we all know who the adult here is; it's me.

I don't think so. Lol. If you cannot handle opposing opinions on a message board, then you are no adult.

I'm not the one who is refusing to listen, and I've made no judgments.

I have been listening. I just disagree. I think there is much more to this issue than simply "genitals" and sexuality. It is important to teach your children to be happy with who they are.

Of course, parents should teach their children self-esteem, but apparently some children are experiencing gender identity, and I haven't heard them talking about their genitals; only you.

Is that not the ultimate goal? To change from a penis to a vagina or a vagina to a penis? Why do you think that is? Why so much emphasis on mutilating their genitals?

It seems, after listening to Bruce Jenner's interview, that he didn't know if he wanted to have the surgery. Seems his desire was to live as a woman. I don't understand it, but who am I to judge him?

 

[ChrisL]

I'm actually a certified medical assistant, and I also majored in psychology for a while. I also type about patients with mental illness every single day and have for years, so I think I do know a little bit.

Stop the presses! Do you offer diagnoses?

Are you going to contribute to this discussion, or just keep making accusations? Obviously you have some issue with me, as others on this thread have been much more "crass" but you haven't been bothering with their statements. So what? What's your problem, stranger?

 

[ChrisL]

I don't think so. Lol. If you cannot handle opposing opinions on a message board, then you are no adult.

I'm not the one who is refusing to listen, and I've made no judgments.

I have been listening. I just disagree. I think there is much more to this issue than simply "genitals" and sexuality. It is important to teach your children to be happy with who they are.

Of course, parents should teach their children self-esteem, but apparently some children are experiencing gender identity, and I haven't heard them talking about their genitals; only you.

Is that not the ultimate goal? To change from a penis to a vagina or a vagina to a penis? Why do you think that is? Why so much emphasis on mutilating their genitals?

It seems, after listening to Bruce Jenner's interview, that he didn't know if he wanted to have the surgery. Seems his desire was to live as a woman. I don't understand it, but who am I to judge him?

I didn't ask you to "judge" him. Did I? I asked you a simple question of why you think that is the case, why so much emphasis on mutilating perfectly functioning genitalia?