Palestinians Massing At The Israeli Border

[P F Tinmore]

• While Hamas is happy to boast openly about their fighters tearing at the border fences in Gaza and hiding behind civilians to evade Israeli soldiers—the New York Times makes no mention of this. Israeli soldiers are portrayed as faceless killing machines, without a single reference to the fire kites, terror tunnels, rockets or cross border explosive devices utilized by the Palestinians, or to the double war crime of Hamas targeting Israeli civilians by firing rockets from behind Palestinian civilians.
  
  
• These Israeli civilians are not occupiers or usurpers. They live in Israel proper not in occupied or disputed territory. This area was built from scratch by Israelis on barren desert land and the Israelis have a right to be protected from fire bombs and mobs determined to breach the protective fence. How would other nations respond to such threats? Certainly not by treating these dangerous mobs as peaceful protestors merely exercising their freedom of speech and assembly.
  
  
• The Times's absurd conclusion that the shooter may have committed a "war crime," ignores the law of war crimes.
  
  
• Contrast what Israel does with how the Palestinians treat terrorists who willfully target and kill Jewish children, women and other civilians. The Palestinian Authority pays their families rewards – in effect bounties -- for their willful acts of murder. Hamas promotes and lionizes terrorists who kill Jews. But you would not know any of that from reading the one-sided New York Times screed....All in all, it is a shockingly irresponsible report.

(full article online)

The New York Times Incentivizes Hamas Violence

This area was built from scratch by Israelis on barren desert land and the Israelis have a right to be protected from fire bombs and mobs determined to breach the protective fence.

The hundreds of Palestinian farm villages that Israel destroyed were populated by people for hundreds of years who could grow no food.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestinians Massing At The Israeli Border
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This is just so naive and lame, it is beyond description.

The hundreds of Palestinian farm villages that Israel destroyed were populated by people for hundreds of years who could grow no food.

(COMMENT)

In the 20th Century, empires came and went. Kings fell and royal houses were assassinated. Old countries collapsed and new countries arose. While some of these events were huge in their effect over the landscape of more than a third of the world. And like the Crimea, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is insanely small in terms of both territory and people.

It is generally accepted that the release of the Occupied Territories is impossible for the foreseeable future, at least not until the political dynamics have changed inside the Middle East → something that is NOT likely to happen anytime soon.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Sixties Fan]

IDF strikes Hamas posts in Gaza after explosive flown into Israel

 

[Sixties Fan]

A Palestinian non-governmental organization (NGO), Defense for Children International – Palestine(DCI-P), has, in two documents, compiled information demonstrating Palestinian violence along the Gaza border during the “Great March of Return.” Despite DCI-P’s claims that the march is a series of “protests” led by “civilians,” the actual evidence provided in their documentation proves otherwise.

(full article online)

Palestinian NGO Inadvertently Exonerates IDF

 

[Sixties Fan]

The air strike followed violent riots on the Gaza border, in which 13,000 Gazan rioters threw grenades and explosives.

There were three incidents of Gazans breaking through the border fence into Israel. The soldiers stopped them before they could reach the homes of Israeli families who live minutes away.

(full article online)

IDF attacks two Hamas posts

 

[Sixties Fan]

The violence that unfolded Friday along the eastern Gaza border reached a level that we have not seen since financial aid from Qatar was transferred to Hamas two months ago. The source of the unrest was a delay of a $15 million dollar transfer from Qatar. The reason for the delay, according to some reports, the calm-for-calm agreement, a condition Israel stipulated in allowing funds to transfer into Gaza, was not adhered to by Hamas. Let’s take a closer look…

On Wednesday, members of the Rafah Kushuk Unit released a message warning the Israeli government of serious consequences if the “Zionists” did not keep their end of the deal. Notice the man at the bottom of the frame in the middle with a beard? How about the man to his left with the blue undercoat? Both are known members of militant groups in Gaza.

On Thursday, with no indication of a money transfer in sight, Palestinian border units made good on their threats. They resumed operations by sending explosive and incendiary balloons into Israel throughout the day.

(full article and videos online)

GroundBrief: Gaza’s March of Return, Israel strikes Syria and more

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ Possibly (?) just another Gazan tired of Gaza who wants some vacation at a prison in Israel ]

A suspect arrested by IDF soldiers on Friday morning after he crossed the border fence in northern Gaza is a member of the Hamas terrorist organization, it was cleared for publication on Friday evening.

The IDF Spokesperson’s Unit said the terrorist was arrested immediately after he crossed the border fence, was under surveillance of security forces, and immediately after crossing surrendered himself.

(full article online)

IDF arrests Hamas terrorist who crossed Gaza border

 

[Sixties Fan]

“Nonviolent” protestors do not carry knives, wire-cutters and improvised firebombs.

(full article online )

Context is key: It was a riot, not a protest

 

[Sixties Fan]

When people don’t support Israel they are supporting this/media

 

[Sixties Fan]

Shots fired at Israeli troops on Gaza border; IDF tank destroys Hamas post

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ The religion of peace and those peaceful demonstrators ]

10,000 rioters throw grenades and rocks at IDF soldiers. In Judea and Samaria, IDF forces eliminate rock-throwing terrorist.

(full article online)

Thousands of Gazans riot along border fence

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ The Kings of World Welfare ]

Qatar begins dispensing $9.4 million in funds to Gaza’s poor

 

[Sixties Fan]

The Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center has examined the names of every person killed in the Gaza "return marches" every Friday since last March.

The results are nothing short of remarkable.

(full article online)

150 out of 181 Gaza "Return March" fatalities were terrorists ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[rylah]

The Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center has examined the names of every person killed in the Gaza "return marches" every Friday since last March.

The results are nothing short of remarkable.

(full article online)

150 out of 181 Gaza "Return March" fatalities were terrorists ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

A bit more extended report:

Updated Analysis: At least 80 percent of Palestinian fatalities in Gaza “Return Marches” are terrorists

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center has examined the names of every person killed in the Gaza "return marches" every Friday since last March.

The results are nothing short of remarkable.

(full article online)

150 out of 181 Gaza "Return March" fatalities were terrorists ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

Civilians can only be described as militants when actively engaged in armed activities. When unarmed they have civilian status.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestinians Massing At The Israeli Border
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Again, you are talking about something you do not know anything about. You do not have to be armed to be a violator.

Militant only means the person typically favors extreme, violent, or confrontational methods. It does not require participation. But the International Law does not use the word "militant, but rather "incitement:"
(Latest version of just one law from 2005)

1. Calls upon all States to adopt such measures as may be necessary and appropriate and in accordance with their obligations under international law to:

(a) Prohibit by law incitement to commit a terrorist act or acts;

(b) Prevent such conduct;

(c) Deny safe haven to any persons with respect to whom there is credibleand relevant information giving serious reasons for considering that they have been guilty of such conduct;"
​

2. Calls upon all States to cooperate, inter alia, to strengthen the security of their international borders, including by combating fraudulent travel documents and, to the extent attainable, by enhancing terrorist screening and passenger security procedures with a view to preventing those guilty of the conduct in paragraph 1 (a) from entering their territory;
​

This thumbnail is not all-inclusive but demonstrates the

Civilians can only be described as militants when actively engaged in armed activities. When unarmed they have civilian status.

(COMMENT)

Any person commits an offence within the meaning of the Convention for the Suppression of the Financing of Terrorism if that person by any means, directly or indirectly, unlawfully and wilfully, provides or collects funds with the intention that they should be used or in the knowledge that they are to be used, in full or in part, in order to carry out an act intended to cause death or serious bodily injury to a civilian, or to any other person not taking an active part in the hostilities in a situation of armed conflict, when the purpose of such act, by its nature or context, is to intimidate a population, or to compel a government or an international organization to do or to abstain from doing any act.

Protected persons who commit an offence which is solely intended to harm or constitute an attempt on the life or limb of members of the occupying forces or administration, involve grave collective danger, seriously damage to property of the occupying forces or administration or the installations used by occupying forces are subject to a sentence of imprisonment. Occupying Power may impose the death penalty on a protected person in cases where the person is guilty of espionage, of serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power or of intentional offences which have caused the death of one or more persons, provided that such offences were punishable by death under the law of the occupied territory in force.

If you just drive the care in which an act is committed, you are chargedable.

If you provide financing or material support for the act, you are chageable.

Participates as an accomplice in an offence.​

International law does not prohibit States from adopting legislation that makes it a punishable offence for anyone to participate in hostilities, whether directly or indirectly.


Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Palestinians Massing At The Israeli Border
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Again, you are talking about something you do not know anything about. You do not have to be armed to be a violator.

Militant only means the person typically favors extreme, violent, or confrontational methods. It does not require participation. But the International Law does not use the word "militant, but rather "incitement:"
(Latest version of just one law from 2005)

1. Calls upon all States to adopt such measures as may be necessary and appropriate and in accordance with their obligations under international law to:

(a) Prohibit by law incitement to commit a terrorist act or acts;

(b) Prevent such conduct;

(c) Deny safe haven to any persons with respect to whom there is credibleand relevant information giving serious reasons for considering that they have been guilty of such conduct;"
​

2. Calls upon all States to cooperate, inter alia, to strengthen the security of their international borders, including by combating fraudulent travel documents and, to the extent attainable, by enhancing terrorist screening and passenger security procedures with a view to preventing those guilty of the conduct in paragraph 1 (a) from entering their territory;​

This thumbnail is not all-inclusive but demonstrates the

Civilians can only be described as militants when actively engaged in armed activities. When unarmed they have civilian status.

(COMMENT)

Any person commits an offence within the meaning of the Convention for the Suppression of the Financing of Terrorism if that person by any means, directly or indirectly, unlawfully and wilfully, provides or collects funds with the intention that they should be used or in the knowledge that they are to be used, in full or in part, in order to carry out an act intended to cause death or serious bodily injury to a civilian, or to any other person not taking an active part in the hostilities in a situation of armed conflict, when the purpose of such act, by its nature or context, is to intimidate a population, or to compel a government or an international organization to do or to abstain from doing any act.

Protected persons who commit an offence which is solely intended to harm or constitute an attempt on the life or limb of members of the occupying forces or administration, involve grave collective danger, seriously damage to property of the occupying forces or administration or the installations used by occupying forces are subject to a sentence of imprisonment. Occupying Power may impose the death penalty on a protected person in cases where the person is guilty of espionage, of serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power or of intentional offences which have caused the death of one or more persons, provided that such offences were punishable by death under the law of the occupied territory in force.

If you just drive the care in which an act is committed, you are chargedable.

If you provide financing or material support for the act, you are chageable.

Participates as an accomplice in an offence.​

International law does not prohibit States from adopting legislation that makes it a punishable offence for anyone to participate in hostilities, whether directly or indirectly.


Most Respectfully,
R

2. Calls upon all States to cooperate, inter alia, to strengthen the security of their international borders,

Istael's international borders. You are a hoot.

Any person commits an offence within the meaning of the Convention for the Suppression of the Financing of Terrorism

More of Israel' terrorism canard.

International law does not prohibit States from adopting legislation that makes it a punishable offence for anyone to participate in hostilities, whether directly or indirectly.

Applies to police action not military snipers.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Palestinians Massing At The Israeli Border
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Again, you are talking about something you do not know anything about. You do not have to be armed to be a violator.

Militant only means the person typically favors extreme, violent, or confrontational methods. It does not require participation. But the International Law does not use the word "militant, but rather "incitement:"
(Latest version of just one law from 2005)

1. Calls upon all States to adopt such measures as may be necessary and appropriate and in accordance with their obligations under international law to:

(a) Prohibit by law incitement to commit a terrorist act or acts;

(b) Prevent such conduct;

(c) Deny safe haven to any persons with respect to whom there is credibleand relevant information giving serious reasons for considering that they have been guilty of such conduct;"
​

2. Calls upon all States to cooperate, inter alia, to strengthen the security of their international borders, including by combating fraudulent travel documents and, to the extent attainable, by enhancing terrorist screening and passenger security procedures with a view to preventing those guilty of the conduct in paragraph 1 (a) from entering their territory;​

This thumbnail is not all-inclusive but demonstrates the

Civilians can only be described as militants when actively engaged in armed activities. When unarmed they have civilian status.

(COMMENT)

Any person commits an offence within the meaning of the Convention for the Suppression of the Financing of Terrorism if that person by any means, directly or indirectly, unlawfully and wilfully, provides or collects funds with the intention that they should be used or in the knowledge that they are to be used, in full or in part, in order to carry out an act intended to cause death or serious bodily injury to a civilian, or to any other person not taking an active part in the hostilities in a situation of armed conflict, when the purpose of such act, by its nature or context, is to intimidate a population, or to compel a government or an international organization to do or to abstain from doing any act.

Protected persons who commit an offence which is solely intended to harm or constitute an attempt on the life or limb of members of the occupying forces or administration, involve grave collective danger, seriously damage to property of the occupying forces or administration or the installations used by occupying forces are subject to a sentence of imprisonment. Occupying Power may impose the death penalty on a protected person in cases where the person is guilty of espionage, of serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power or of intentional offences which have caused the death of one or more persons, provided that such offences were punishable by death under the law of the occupied territory in force.

If you just drive the care in which an act is committed, you are chargedable.

If you provide financing or material support for the act, you are chageable.

Participates as an accomplice in an offence.​

International law does not prohibit States from adopting legislation that makes it a punishable offence for anyone to participate in hostilities, whether directly or indirectly.


Most Respectfully,
R

2. Calls upon all States to cooperate, inter alia, to strengthen the security of their international borders,

Istael's international borders. You are a hoot.

Any person commits an offence within the meaning of the Convention for the Suppression of the Financing of Terrorism

More of Israel' terrorism canard.

International law does not prohibit States from adopting legislation that makes it a punishable offence for anyone to participate in hostilities, whether directly or indirectly.

Applies to police action not military snipers.

So, as usual, you were unable to address a single point.

You couldn’t find a YouTube video?

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestinians Massing At The Israeli Border
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

All things that are tangible and real → having an effect on the manner of men and understanding have a name. Names have meaning. Terrorism is not the "childish" thing you make it out to be (being associated with Jihadists, Insurgents, Radicalized Islamist Troublemakers, Adherents, Guerrillas and Asymmetric Fighter). It is something that has both a reality to it and a set of consequences. It is real.

Arab Palestinian consequences perpetrated by those followers of a true psychopathic belief has effect and meaning. The accusation of "name-calling" (philosophical use of abusive language or insults) is a defense of last resort where no evidence is given and no evidence is self-explanatory.

2. Calls upon all States to cooperate, inter alia, to strengthen the security of their international borders,

Istael's international borders. You are a hoot.

(COMMENT)

I have posted them many many times. One might ask, of what value is it to deny the existance of these established demarcations?

❖ The Jordan-Israel Peace Treaty was signed on October 26, 1994
❖ The Treaty of Peace between the Arab Republic of Egypt and the State of Israel, 26 March 1979
❖ The International Boundary between Israel and Lebanon was established pursuant to the 1923 Agreement between France and Great Britain ...”, that “this line was reaffirmed in the Israeli-Lebanese General Armistice Agreement signed on 23 March 1949” and that “subsequently there were several modifications mutually agreed by Israel and Lebanon”.
❖ GOLAN HEIGHTS LAW December 14, 1981​

Whether or not political entities say they recognize any specific demarcations is irrelevant. If the Israelis defend the demarcation as sovereign territories, like any other name, it has a reality to it. You can deny it, but only to face the enforcement by Israel.

Any person commits an offense within the meaning of the Convention for the Suppression of the Financing of Terrorism

More of Israel' terrorism canard.

(COMMENT)

The accusation of terrorism against the Arab Palestinians is neither unfounded rumor or fiction. There is a long history of criminal activity behind the accusation. There are 27 European Nations (excluding the UK), America. Canada, Australia, Iran, Russia, Norway, Switzerland, Brazil, Turkey, China, and Qatar (38 Countries in all, containing the largest economies of the world) recognize one or more of the Arab Palestinians organizations as terrorist entities.

International law does not prohibit States from adopting legislation that makes it a punishable offense for anyone to participate in hostilities, whether directly or indirectly.

Applies to police action, not military snipers.

(COMMENT)

This makes no sense. International Laws pertainin to terrorism are the most recognized criminal proscriptions in the world. There are 19 universal legal instruments and additional amendments dealing with terrorism.

You either choose to combat terrorism or support terrorism. I don't need to convince you of what to support. All I can say is that the countries of the world that represent the largest economies of the world, recognized the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) and a half dozen more active Arab Palestinians organizations as terrorist.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

I have posted them many many times. One might ask, of what value is it to deny the existance of these established demarcations?

The question that you have always ducked is how did Israel claim borders on Palestinian land?