"And there you have it.It only took eight posts for this to be blamed on the Israelis. Actually only two from the pro-pal side. So predictable. So lost. So ignorant and full of lies."
If the Zionists had made peace in 1948, none of this would be a problem now. If the Zionists had not facilitated the creation of Hamas, this would not be a problem now, ultimately if the Zionists had assimilated into their native societies instead of pushing for a fantasy "homeland" this certainly would not be a problem now. Zionism is the catalyst, spin it whichever way you like, that's the fundamental truth of the matter. The rest of us have to live with the consequences.
Don't you mean if the Jews had surrended to islamonazi rule and barbarism the world would be a much worse place with hordes of rabid muslims running to the west when the west flattened the M.E.
The only fantsy homeland was that of the arab muslims.
So what was the catalyst for muslim atrocities and land theft before 1850 ? It wouldn't be the commands in the Koran by any chance ?
No, I don't. By 1800, there was no longer any Muslim threat to the west, in fact it was the west that was the threat to the Muslim world. All of this has nothing to do with the cancer of Zionism, in any event, which did contribute to the rise of Islamic fundamentalism.
>>
Siege of Vienna (1529), and the
Ottoman–Habsburg wars. The Europeans, united by Christianity, formed the
Holy League which was a group of Christian states. They were able to reverse a number of Ottoman conquests during the so-called "
Great Turkish War" of the late 17th century, and this resulted in the removal of the foreign and alien influence of the
Ottoman Empire.
The Ottomans were much slower to modernize their military compared to the much more powerful and financially wealthy Christian nations in the European
Holy League, led directly to the internal rebellion of the
Christian peoples the
Ottomans had managed to subjugate, such as
Serbians and the
Greeks. The Europeans unified in their need to eliminate the possibly destructive influence of a nation such as the lien Islamic Ottoman Empire led directly to the partially-successful
Serbian revolution of (1804–1817) and the completely successful
Greek War of Independence of (1821–1832). This was coupled with the frequent and mostly successful
Russia Empire and mostly-to-completely successful
Poland, which weakened the
Ottoman Empire destructively and also led to the European aim of collapsing the Ottomans at the conclusion of
World War I, with the signing of the
Treaty of Sevres.<<
yes, sorry I used wiki for expediency