“Palestine” just an old Roman name for ancient Israel. There never has been a place named “Palestine” founded by a people named “Palestinians”

[surada]

You’re stuck on stupid. Palestine was named for Philistines.

“While the Philistines themselves disappeared in the second half of the first millennium BCE, their name came to be used as the basis for defining the geographic region known as Palestine.”


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That's bogus. They were Sea people from the Aegean. People don't disappear. Their ancestors are still living in the Levant.

 

[MartyNYC]

Has nothing to do with Palestinians. The Philistines were Greek Sea people not Arabs.

A lot of Palestinians are descended from Jewish farmers who didn't leave after the destruction of the temple. DNA proves that. Look at the Akkadian Empire..and language 3000. BC to 100 AD. Look at Jewish roots among the Syrian Canaanites.

You know more than Bernard Lewis? How many books have you written, hun?

 

[surada]

You know more than Bernard Lewis? How many books have you written, hun?


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Bernard Lewis is way behind.

Look at the Phoenicians.

ORIGIN OF THE PHOENICIANS AND CANAANITES, SEA PEOPLES AND PHILISTINES | Facts and Details

factsanddetails.com

 

[MartyNYC]

That's bogus. They were Sea people from the Aegean. People don't disappear. Their ancestors are still living in the Levant.

You know more than Seymour Gitin, a world-renowned archaeologist and authority on Philistines? Of course not. So shut the fuck up.

 

[MartyNYC]

Bernard Lewis is way behind.

Look at the Phoenicians.

ORIGIN OF THE PHOENICIANS AND CANAANITES, SEA PEOPLES AND PHILISTINES | Facts and Details

factsanddetails.com

How many books have you written, hun?

 

[surada]

How many books have you written, hun?

Just two.

Alas, poor Bernard Lewis, a fellow of infinite jest

On Bernard Lewis and ‘his extraordinary capacity for getting everything wrong’.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[MartyNYC]

Just two.

Alas, poor Bernard Lewis, a fellow of infinite jest

On Bernard Lewis and ‘his extraordinary capacity for getting everything wrong’.

www.aljazeera.com

“A comprehensive history from the world’s foremost authority on the Middle East.”

 

[surada]

“A comprehensive history from the world’s foremost authority on the Middle East.”


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So you say. Bernard Lewis was a hatemonger. He was never truthful.

Hitler also justified his treatment of the Jews.

 

[MartyNYC]

So you say. Bernard Lewis was a hatemonger. He was never truthful.

Hitler also justified his treatment of the Jews.

American Philosophical Society: Bernard Lewis awarded the Thomas Jefferson Medal for Distinguished Achievement—“In recognition of his role in refining and promoting Islamic history, and his pioneering work explaining the Middle East to generations of students and audiences”

Thomas Jefferson Medal for Distinguished Achievement in the Arts, Humanities, and Social Sciences | American Philosophical Society

 

[seaofnails]

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You may know about Theodor Herzl . He was one of the Early fathers of the idea of jEWS returning back to Israel.
On January 26, 1904, Theodor Herzl The had an audience with Pope Pius X in the Vatican to seek Catholic support to establish a Jewish state in Palestine. A SECURE place for world jEWS to RETURN HOME and live.
The Pope Demanded and Commanded that Theodor Herzl was to Bow down and Kiss his hand. Theodor Herzl REFUSED to Kiss the popes hand .

Theodor Herzl asked for the Pope to support jEWS living in Israel.
The Pope Stated [We cannot give approval to this movement. We cannot prevent the Jews from going to Jerusalem but we could never sanction it. The Pope also Stated The Jews have not recognized our Lord, therefore we cannot recognize the Jewish people].

The Pope Concluded " Jerusalem must not get into the hands of the Jews "
the Pope concluded saying
IF THEY WILL BE DENYING THE DIVINITY OF JESUS WE CANNOT HELP THEM.
THE JEWS, WHO OUGHT TO HAVE BEEN THE FIRST TO ACKNOWLEDGE JESUS CHRIST, HAVE NOT DONE SO TO THIS DAY."
IF YOU COME TO PALESTINE AND SETTLE YOUR PEOPLE THERE, WE SHALL HAVE CHURCHES AND PRIESTS READY TO BAPTIZE ALL OF YOU."

 

[MartyNYC]

.
You may know about Theodor Herzl . He was one of the Early fathers of the idea of jEWS returning back to Israel.
On January 26, 1904, Theodor Herzl The had an audience with Pope Pius X in the Vatican to seek Catholic support to establish a Jewish state in Palestine. A SECURE place for world jEWS to RETURN HOME and live.
The Pope Demanded and Commanded that Theodor Herzl was to Bow down and Kiss his hand. Theodor Herzl REFUSED to Kiss the popes hand .

Theodor Herzl asked for the Pope to support jEWS living in Israel.
The Pope Stated [We cannot give approval to this movement. We cannot prevent the Jews from going to Jerusalem but we could never sanction it. The Pope also Stated The Jews have not recognized our Lord, therefore we cannot recognize the Jewish people].

The Pope Concluded " Jerusalem must not get into the hands of the Jews "
the Pope concluded saying
IF THEY WILL BE DENYING THE DIVINITY OF JESUS WE CANNOT HELP THEM.
THE JEWS, WHO OUGHT TO HAVE BEEN THE FIRST TO ACKNOWLEDGE JESUS CHRIST, HAVE NOT DONE SO TO THIS DAY."
IF YOU COME TO PALESTINE AND SETTLE YOUR PEOPLE THERE, WE SHALL HAVE CHURCHES AND PRIESTS READY TO BAPTIZE ALL OF YOU."

It’s noteworthy that no members of Jesus’s own family were among his disciples. According to the Gospel of Mark, they thought Jesus was insane.