Owners Of Burned California Diving Boat Say They Owe Nothing To Victims' Families

[Bush92]

Bottom line is that it will come down to lawyers and insurance companies. Weasels all.

The bottom line if any negligence is uncovered it will come down to multiple juries

Insurance companies will settle out of court before it goes to any jury and families will be required not to discuss the case with media as part of settlement. Families lawyers will advise this because they don’t want to take a chance on losing $$$...families will do it because they don’t want to take a chance on losing $$$ when company declares bankruptcy after large settlement verdict by a jury...corporate(insurance companies) wants to settle out of court because if they lose a jury might give out a massive settlement. All sides will take the $$$ and walk away.

Not if charges are filed 34 people are dead there are both civil and legal matters here and this is being handled as a murder as of now

They will settle out of court. Murder charges will not be drawn up. Private business and they as customers made a conscious choice to go on the cruise. We will have to see what legal documents were signed as part of the contractual agreement. The company lawyers and owners are being bold with public statements and they must know something we do not. If this company was licensed by California and followed all safety codes and statutes, and if they were subject to frequent inspections by the State of California and were granted license; then the company is good on criminal charges. Civil charges may be forthcoming and again, I reiterate, all sides will settle out of court.

Search warrants served...……………….

Search warrants served in California boat fire investigation

SANTA BARBARA, Calif. — Authorities are serving search warrants at the California company that owned the scuba diving boat that caught fire and killed 34 people last week.

Santa Barbara County sheriff’s Lt. Erik Raney says the warrants served Sunday are part of the ongoing investigation by local and federal officials into the tragedy. He says authorities are searching Truth Aquatics’ offices in Santa Barbara and the company’s two remaining boats.

Thirty-four people died when the Conception burned and sank before dawn on Sept. 2. They were sleeping in a cramped bunkroom below the main deck and their escape routes were blocked by fire.

The bodies of all but one victim have been recovered. The search for the final victim was suspended until later week because of strong winds and rough seas.


The Associated Press

Search warrants are typical of any investigation as per the 4th Amendment.

 

[Frannie]

The bottom line if any negligence is uncovered it will come down to multiple juries

Insurance companies will settle out of court before it goes to any jury and families will be required not to discuss the case with media as part of settlement. Families lawyers will advise this because they don’t want to take a chance on losing $$$...families will do it because they don’t want to take a chance on losing $$$ when company declares bankruptcy after large settlement verdict by a jury...corporate(insurance companies) wants to settle out of court because if they lose a jury might give out a massive settlement. All sides will take the $$$ and walk away.

Not if charges are filed 34 people are dead there are both civil and legal matters here and this is being handled as a murder as of now

They will settle out of court. Murder charges will not be drawn up. Private business and they as customers made a conscious choice to go on the cruise. We will have to see what legal documents were signed as part of the contractual agreement. The company lawyers and owners are being bold with public statements and they must know something we do not. If this company was licensed by California and followed all safety codes and statutes, and if they were subject to frequent inspections by the State of California and were granted license; then the company is good on criminal charges. Civil charges may be forthcoming and again, I reiterate, all sides will settle out of court.

Search warrants served...……………….

Search warrants served in California boat fire investigation

SANTA BARBARA, Calif. — Authorities are serving search warrants at the California company that owned the scuba diving boat that caught fire and killed 34 people last week.

Santa Barbara County sheriff’s Lt. Erik Raney says the warrants served Sunday are part of the ongoing investigation by local and federal officials into the tragedy. He says authorities are searching Truth Aquatics’ offices in Santa Barbara and the company’s two remaining boats.

Thirty-four people died when the Conception burned and sank before dawn on Sept. 2. They were sleeping in a cramped bunkroom below the main deck and their escape routes were blocked by fire.

The bodies of all but one victim have been recovered. The search for the final victim was suspended until later week because of strong winds and rough seas.


The Associated Press

Search warrants are typical of any investigation as per the 4th Amendment.

Again 34 deaths are never typical

 

[Bush92]

Insurance companies will settle out of court before it goes to any jury and families will be required not to discuss the case with media as part of settlement. Families lawyers will advise this because they don’t want to take a chance on losing $$$...families will do it because they don’t want to take a chance on losing $$$ when company declares bankruptcy after large settlement verdict by a jury...corporate(insurance companies) wants to settle out of court because if they lose a jury might give out a massive settlement. All sides will take the $$$ and walk away.

Not if charges are filed 34 people are dead there are both civil and legal matters here and this is being handled as a murder as of now

They will settle out of court. Murder charges will not be drawn up. Private business and they as customers made a conscious choice to go on the cruise. We will have to see what legal documents were signed as part of the contractual agreement. The company lawyers and owners are being bold with public statements and they must know something we do not. If this company was licensed by California and followed all safety codes and statutes, and if they were subject to frequent inspections by the State of California and were granted license; then the company is good on criminal charges. Civil charges may be forthcoming and again, I reiterate, all sides will settle out of court.

Search warrants served...……………….

Search warrants served in California boat fire investigation

SANTA BARBARA, Calif. — Authorities are serving search warrants at the California company that owned the scuba diving boat that caught fire and killed 34 people last week.

Santa Barbara County sheriff’s Lt. Erik Raney says the warrants served Sunday are part of the ongoing investigation by local and federal officials into the tragedy. He says authorities are searching Truth Aquatics’ offices in Santa Barbara and the company’s two remaining boats.

Thirty-four people died when the Conception burned and sank before dawn on Sept. 2. They were sleeping in a cramped bunkroom below the main deck and their escape routes were blocked by fire.

The bodies of all but one victim have been recovered. The search for the final victim was suspended until later week because of strong winds and rough seas.


The Associated Press

Search warrants are typical of any investigation as per the 4th Amendment.

Again 34 deaths are never typical

But the substantive due process of law is typical and it’s ensconced in our Constitution and procedural due process is a part of that as well. This is all procedural matters right now. No criminal charges likely. Will go into civil court and be settled outside the courtroom and in judges chambers.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Bottom line is that it will come down to lawyers and insurance companies. Weasels all.

The bottom line if any negligence is uncovered it will come down to multiple juries

Insurance companies will settle out of court before it goes to any jury and families will be required not to discuss the case with media as part of settlement. Families lawyers will advise this because they don’t want to take a chance on losing $$$...families will do it because they don’t want to take a chance on losing $$$ when company declares bankruptcy after large settlement verdict by a jury...corporate(insurance companies) wants to settle out of court because if they lose a jury might give out a massive settlement. All sides will take the $$$ and walk away.

Not if charges are filed 34 people are dead there are both civil and legal matters here and this is being handled as a murder as of now

They will settle out of court. Murder charges will not be drawn up. Private business and they as customers made a conscious choice to go on the cruise. We will have to see what legal documents were signed as part of the contractual agreement. The company lawyers and owners are being bold with public statements and they must know something we do not. If this company was licensed by California and followed all safety codes and statutes, and if they were subject to frequent inspections by the State of California and were granted license; then the company is good on criminal charges. Civil charges may be forthcoming and again, I reiterate, all sides will settle out of court.

The dopey crew already said the smoke detector never went off, that's criminal negligence. Furthermore we have not seen the drug test results yet, and one body is missing, did she vanish on purpose? They are looking

The body is likely UNDER the boat.

 

[Frannie]

The bottom line if any negligence is uncovered it will come down to multiple juries

Insurance companies will settle out of court before it goes to any jury and families will be required not to discuss the case with media as part of settlement. Families lawyers will advise this because they don’t want to take a chance on losing $$$...families will do it because they don’t want to take a chance on losing $$$ when company declares bankruptcy after large settlement verdict by a jury...corporate(insurance companies) wants to settle out of court because if they lose a jury might give out a massive settlement. All sides will take the $$$ and walk away.

Not if charges are filed 34 people are dead there are both civil and legal matters here and this is being handled as a murder as of now

They will settle out of court. Murder charges will not be drawn up. Private business and they as customers made a conscious choice to go on the cruise. We will have to see what legal documents were signed as part of the contractual agreement. The company lawyers and owners are being bold with public statements and they must know something we do not. If this company was licensed by California and followed all safety codes and statutes, and if they were subject to frequent inspections by the State of California and were granted license; then the company is good on criminal charges. Civil charges may be forthcoming and again, I reiterate, all sides will settle out of court.

The dopey crew already said the smoke detector never went off, that's criminal negligence. Furthermore we have not seen the drug test results yet, and one body is missing, did she vanish on purpose? They are looking

The body is likely UNDER the boat.

Yea tell us again that she died when Oxygen on the boat caught fire.

 

[Bush92]

Insurance companies will settle out of court before it goes to any jury and families will be required not to discuss the case with media as part of settlement. Families lawyers will advise this because they don’t want to take a chance on losing $$$...families will do it because they don’t want to take a chance on losing $$$ when company declares bankruptcy after large settlement verdict by a jury...corporate(insurance companies) wants to settle out of court because if they lose a jury might give out a massive settlement. All sides will take the $$$ and walk away.

Not if charges are filed 34 people are dead there are both civil and legal matters here and this is being handled as a murder as of now

They will settle out of court. Murder charges will not be drawn up. Private business and they as customers made a conscious choice to go on the cruise. We will have to see what legal documents were signed as part of the contractual agreement. The company lawyers and owners are being bold with public statements and they must know something we do not. If this company was licensed by California and followed all safety codes and statutes, and if they were subject to frequent inspections by the State of California and were granted license; then the company is good on criminal charges. Civil charges may be forthcoming and again, I reiterate, all sides will settle out of court.

The dopey crew already said the smoke detector never went off, that's criminal negligence. Furthermore we have not seen the drug test results yet, and one body is missing, did she vanish on purpose? They are looking

The body is likely UNDER the boat.

Yea tell us again that she died when Oxygen on the boat caught fire.

Who manufactured the oxygen tanks? Lawyers will sue them too. Their lawyers will sit down with victims lawyers and...you got it...settle out of court.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Not if charges are filed 34 people are dead there are both civil and legal matters here and this is being handled as a murder as of now

Please show us where this tragedy is being handled as murder or, admit you are lying. Why?

Not relevant but I'm still curious why you have a hair up your behind about this dive boat since you have proven you know squat about one and have no one close to you involved. You've started three threads making wild, unproven allegations. Why? Don't say it's because of the death of 34 divers, that many innocent folks are shot and killed every night in urban locations. Do you not give a rat's behind about them?

All investigations where fatalities are involved are treated as murder investigations because there is no way to go back in time nd reinvestigate the incident. I am involved in police investigations concerning death by vehicle all the time, when someone dies or is expected to die everything is photographed and measured before the road is reopened...………… it's not any easier when the NTSB and ATF are involved as they are here

Common knowledge if you had any

Just how many people have you killed with your car and boat?

ATF? What would Alcohol. Tobacco and Firearms have to do with this?

 

[Frannie]

Not if charges are filed 34 people are dead there are both civil and legal matters here and this is being handled as a murder as of now

They will settle out of court. Murder charges will not be drawn up. Private business and they as customers made a conscious choice to go on the cruise. We will have to see what legal documents were signed as part of the contractual agreement. The company lawyers and owners are being bold with public statements and they must know something we do not. If this company was licensed by California and followed all safety codes and statutes, and if they were subject to frequent inspections by the State of California and were granted license; then the company is good on criminal charges. Civil charges may be forthcoming and again, I reiterate, all sides will settle out of court.

The dopey crew already said the smoke detector never went off, that's criminal negligence. Furthermore we have not seen the drug test results yet, and one body is missing, did she vanish on purpose? They are looking

The body is likely UNDER the boat.

Yea tell us again that she died when Oxygen on the boat caught fire.

Who manufactured the oxygen tanks? Lawyers will sue them too. Their lawyers will sit down with victims lawyers and...you got it...settle out of court.

Oxygen does not burn, there will be no settlement out of court here, as all of 34 parties would have to agree, even if some do others will not.

Next

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Insurance companies will settle out of court before it goes to any jury and families will be required not to discuss the case with media as part of settlement. Families lawyers will advise this because they don’t want to take a chance on losing $$$...families will do it because they don’t want to take a chance on losing $$$ when company declares bankruptcy after large settlement verdict by a jury...corporate(insurance companies) wants to settle out of court because if they lose a jury might give out a massive settlement. All sides will take the $$$ and walk away.

Not if charges are filed 34 people are dead there are both civil and legal matters here and this is being handled as a murder as of now

They will settle out of court. Murder charges will not be drawn up. Private business and they as customers made a conscious choice to go on the cruise. We will have to see what legal documents were signed as part of the contractual agreement. The company lawyers and owners are being bold with public statements and they must know something we do not. If this company was licensed by California and followed all safety codes and statutes, and if they were subject to frequent inspections by the State of California and were granted license; then the company is good on criminal charges. Civil charges may be forthcoming and again, I reiterate, all sides will settle out of court.

The dopey crew already said the smoke detector never went off, that's criminal negligence. Furthermore we have not seen the drug test results yet, and one body is missing, did she vanish on purpose? They are looking

The body is likely UNDER the boat.

Yea tell us again that she died when Oxygen on the boat caught fire.

The oxygen did not catch fire. Again, for about the 30th time, you have failed to quote where I said that.

Oxygen is an accelerant but a part of the fire triangle. Without oxygen, nothing burns. You do know what a fire triangle is, don't you?

 

[Frannie]

Not if charges are filed 34 people are dead there are both civil and legal matters here and this is being handled as a murder as of now

Please show us where this tragedy is being handled as murder or, admit you are lying. Why?

Not relevant but I'm still curious why you have a hair up your behind about this dive boat since you have proven you know squat about one and have no one close to you involved. You've started three threads making wild, unproven allegations. Why? Don't say it's because of the death of 34 divers, that many innocent folks are shot and killed every night in urban locations. Do you not give a rat's behind about them?

All investigations where fatalities are involved are treated as murder investigations because there is no way to go back in time nd reinvestigate the incident. I am involved in police investigations concerning death by vehicle all the time, when someone dies or is expected to die everything is photographed and measured before the road is reopened...………… it's not any easier when the NTSB and ATF are involved as they are here

Common knowledge if you had any

Just how many people have you killed with your car and boat?

ATF? What would Alcohol. Tobacco and Firearms have to do with this?

Call them and ask retard, do you enjoy being stupid?
I already told you that an accelerant is being investigated

Conception dive boat fire: Gusty winds postpone salvage efforts

ATF team arrives in Santa Barbara to investigate
In the meantime, a specialized team with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is arriving in Santa Barbara.

The ATF has been on scene since Monday, one of myriad local, state and federal agencies that has responded to the boat disaster. Now, the agency's National Response Team has been called in and is slated to start work Friday, said Carlos Canino, special agent in charge of the agency's field division.

"Our primary role is to determine the origin and cause of this fire," he said at a news briefing Friday.

 

[Frannie]

Not if charges are filed 34 people are dead there are both civil and legal matters here and this is being handled as a murder as of now

They will settle out of court. Murder charges will not be drawn up. Private business and they as customers made a conscious choice to go on the cruise. We will have to see what legal documents were signed as part of the contractual agreement. The company lawyers and owners are being bold with public statements and they must know something we do not. If this company was licensed by California and followed all safety codes and statutes, and if they were subject to frequent inspections by the State of California and were granted license; then the company is good on criminal charges. Civil charges may be forthcoming and again, I reiterate, all sides will settle out of court.

The dopey crew already said the smoke detector never went off, that's criminal negligence. Furthermore we have not seen the drug test results yet, and one body is missing, did she vanish on purpose? They are looking

The body is likely UNDER the boat.

Yea tell us again that she died when Oxygen on the boat caught fire.

The oxygen did not catch fire. Again, for about the 30th time, you have failed to quote where I said that.

Oxygen is an accelerant but a part of the fire triangle. Without oxygen, nothing burns. You do know what a fire triangle is, don't you?

I know that the ATF is investigating this fire...…………….

Fart on kid

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Not if charges are filed 34 people are dead there are both civil and legal matters here and this is being handled as a murder as of now

Please show us where this tragedy is being handled as murder or, admit you are lying. Why?

Not relevant but I'm still curious why you have a hair up your behind about this dive boat since you have proven you know squat about one and have no one close to you involved. You've started three threads making wild, unproven allegations. Why? Don't say it's because of the death of 34 divers, that many innocent folks are shot and killed every night in urban locations. Do you not give a rat's behind about them?

All investigations where fatalities are involved are treated as murder investigations because there is no way to go back in time nd reinvestigate the incident. I am involved in police investigations concerning death by vehicle all the time, when someone dies or is expected to die everything is photographed and measured before the road is reopened...………… it's not any easier when the NTSB and ATF are involved as they are here

Common knowledge if you had any

Just how many people have you killed with your car and boat?

ATF? What would Alcohol. Tobacco and Firearms have to do with this?

Call them and ask retard, do you enjoy being stupid?
I already told you that an accelerant is being investigated

Conception dive boat fire: Gusty winds postpone salvage efforts

ATF team arrives in Santa Barbara to investigate
In the meantime, a specialized team with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is arriving in Santa Barbara.

The ATF has been on scene since Monday, one of myriad local, state and federal agencies that has responded to the boat disaster. Now, the agency's National Response Team has been called in and is slated to start work Friday, said Carlos Canino, special agent in charge of the agency's field division.

"Our primary role is to determine the origin and cause of this fire," he said at a news briefing Friday.

Just further proof that out government is bloated and redundant. They have no business being there. The NTSB has their own fire experts.

 

[Markle]

All investigations where fatalities are involved are treated as murder investigations because there is no way to go back in time nd reinvestigate the incident. I am involved in police investigations concerning death by vehicle all the time, when someone dies or is expected to die everything is photographed and measured before the road is reopened...………… it's not any easier when the NTSB and ATF are involved as they are here

Common knowledge if you had any

Please show us your reliable source and working link showing that this is a murder investigation. Why do you continue to lie?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

They will settle out of court. Murder charges will not be drawn up. Private business and they as customers made a conscious choice to go on the cruise. We will have to see what legal documents were signed as part of the contractual agreement. The company lawyers and owners are being bold with public statements and they must know something we do not. If this company was licensed by California and followed all safety codes and statutes, and if they were subject to frequent inspections by the State of California and were granted license; then the company is good on criminal charges. Civil charges may be forthcoming and again, I reiterate, all sides will settle out of court.

The dopey crew already said the smoke detector never went off, that's criminal negligence. Furthermore we have not seen the drug test results yet, and one body is missing, did she vanish on purpose? They are looking

The body is likely UNDER the boat.

Yea tell us again that she died when Oxygen on the boat caught fire.

The oxygen did not catch fire. Again, for about the 30th time, you have failed to quote where I said that.

Oxygen is an accelerant but a part of the fire triangle. Without oxygen, nothing burns. You do know what a fire triangle is, don't you?

I know that the ATF is investigating this fire...…………….

Fart on kid

Please show me where the initials ATF pertain anywhere to fires. You don't know the fire triangle? Typical airheaded POS troll!

Still waiting on that quote, dumbass!

 

[Frannie]

Not if charges are filed 34 people are dead there are both civil and legal matters here and this is being handled as a murder as of now

Please show us where this tragedy is being handled as murder or, admit you are lying. Why?

Not relevant but I'm still curious why you have a hair up your behind about this dive boat since you have proven you know squat about one and have no one close to you involved. You've started three threads making wild, unproven allegations. Why? Don't say it's because of the death of 34 divers, that many innocent folks are shot and killed every night in urban locations. Do you not give a rat's behind about them?

All investigations where fatalities are involved are treated as murder investigations because there is no way to go back in time nd reinvestigate the incident. I am involved in police investigations concerning death by vehicle all the time, when someone dies or is expected to die everything is photographed and measured before the road is reopened...………… it's not any easier when the NTSB and ATF are involved as they are here

Common knowledge if you had any

Just how many people have you killed with your car and boat?

ATF? What would Alcohol. Tobacco and Firearms have to do with this?

Call them and ask retard, do you enjoy being stupid?
I already told you that an accelerant is being investigated

Conception dive boat fire: Gusty winds postpone salvage efforts

ATF team arrives in Santa Barbara to investigate
In the meantime, a specialized team with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is arriving in Santa Barbara.

The ATF has been on scene since Monday, one of myriad local, state and federal agencies that has responded to the boat disaster. Now, the agency's National Response Team has been called in and is slated to start work Friday, said Carlos Canino, special agent in charge of the agency's field division.

"Our primary role is to determine the origin and cause of this fire," he said at a news briefing Friday.

Just further proof that out government is bloated and redundant. They have no business being there. The NTSB has their own fire experts.

Just further proof that you are wrong again

 

[Frannie]

All investigations where fatalities are involved are treated as murder investigations because there is no way to go back in time nd reinvestigate the incident. I am involved in police investigations concerning death by vehicle all the time, when someone dies or is expected to die everything is photographed and measured before the road is reopened...………… it's not any easier when the NTSB and ATF are involved as they are here

Common knowledge if you had any

Please show us your reliable source and working link show that this is a murder investigation. Why do you continue to lie?

There are 34 deaths, the investigation is always treated as a murder as the murder will never be uncovered if there is no investigation.

This follows fundamental logic and as said I am involved with vehicular homicide investigations frequently

 

[Frannie]

The dopey crew already said the smoke detector never went off, that's criminal negligence. Furthermore we have not seen the drug test results yet, and one body is missing, did she vanish on purpose? They are looking

The body is likely UNDER the boat.

Yea tell us again that she died when Oxygen on the boat caught fire.

The oxygen did not catch fire. Again, for about the 30th time, you have failed to quote where I said that.

Oxygen is an accelerant but a part of the fire triangle. Without oxygen, nothing burns. You do know what a fire triangle is, don't you?

I know that the ATF is investigating this fire...…………….

Fart on kid

Please show me where the initials ATF pertain anywhere to fires. You don't know the fire triangle? Typical airheaded POS troll!

Still waiting on that quote, dumbass!

Conception dive boat fire: Gusty winds postpone salvage efforts

ATF team arrives in Santa Barbara to investigate
In the meantime, a specialized team with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is arriving in Santa Barbara.

The ATF has been on scene since Monday, one of myriad local, state and federal agencies that has responded to the boat disaster. Now, the agency's National Response Team has been called in and is slated to start work Friday, said Carlos Canino, special agent in charge of the agency's field division.

"Our primary role is to determine the origin and cause of this fire," he said at a news briefing Friday.

Dude you need to take your meds

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The body is likely UNDER the boat.

Yea tell us again that she died when Oxygen on the boat caught fire.

The oxygen did not catch fire. Again, for about the 30th time, you have failed to quote where I said that.

Oxygen is an accelerant but a part of the fire triangle. Without oxygen, nothing burns. You do know what a fire triangle is, don't you?

I know that the ATF is investigating this fire...…………….

Fart on kid

Please show me where the initials ATF pertain anywhere to fires. You don't know the fire triangle? Typical airheaded POS troll!

Still waiting on that quote, dumbass!

Conception dive boat fire: Gusty winds postpone salvage efforts

ATF team arrives in Santa Barbara to investigate
In the meantime, a specialized team with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is arriving in Santa Barbara.

The ATF has been on scene since Monday, one of myriad local, state and federal agencies that has responded to the boat disaster. Now, the agency's National Response Team has been called in and is slated to start work Friday, said Carlos Canino, special agent in charge of the agency's field division.

"Our primary role is to determine the origin and cause of this fire," he said at a news briefing Friday.

Dude you need to take your meds

Dude, you need to stop lying.

 

[candycorn]

Sometimes tragedy happens.

The customers all booked on the boat knowing what they were getting with the confined sleeping space. They chose the cheaper ticket on that boat instead of chartering something more expensive with more room.

A liberal mindset will look for somebody else to blame. A Conservative mindset will accept personal responsibility for life's decisions.

Nope, I assure you that none of these passengers were told that there was a chance that they could be burned to death and also did not consider the possibility of this at all. The fact is that they might have been told that there was a smoke detector (that never went off by the way). Do you really believe that an Apple engineer took his entire family scuba diving and was focused on the boat burning? Didn't happen, what these people did focus on was being safe under water, period

You are always responsible for your own safety.

Looking at the pictures of the sleeping quarters it looked to be very crowded with limited access. They took that risk.

A smoke detector is a good safety device but sometimes they fail. All technology is liable to fail. No guarantees on anything in life like that.

Getting into a confined boat with a lot of other people is by itself is risky. They chose to do it.

We all make decisions in our lives. We can't always blame our bad decisions on somebody else.

The families will get money out of the settlement with the insurance company to the limit of the liability and maybe the owner has some other wealth they can tap. I am sure a jury will find him negligent.

However, I bet I wouldn't ever make it to the jury because I believe in personal responsibility.

Face the facts kid. No person will ever sail with these but hers again, they are done and over. The crew was negligent as no watch was awake and the smoke detector that would have awoken everyone never went off.

No body is buried and these clowns might all be headed to prison

Thanks for calling me a kid. Nobody has done that for decades. Many decades.

A slick ambulance chasing lawyer will get a nice settlement out of the insurance company and whatever assets the boat owner has that are not protected . You don't have to worry your little head over that. We have a filthy entitlement mentality in this country and the legal system exploits that to the hilt.

However, that doesn't negate the fact that every person is responsible for their own personal safety and those people took a risk by going on the boat. They took a risk they were going to be crammed into crowded sleeping quarters, that the smoke alarm may not work and the crew may not man a watch like they should. They paid for that cheaper ticket with their lives, didn't they?

Like I said, the families of the victims would not like for me to be on the jury. They would love to have you on the jury.

I call everyone a kid who has the mentality of a child like you do.

34 people are dead, you do not know that there was neither gross negligence of foul play that said defending the deaths of 34 people makes you Satan

Most kids outgrow their moronic tendencies and those that do not see it as a bug; not a feature.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Please show us where this tragedy is being handled as murder or, admit you are lying. Why?

Not relevant but I'm still curious why you have a hair up your behind about this dive boat since you have proven you know squat about one and have no one close to you involved. You've started three threads making wild, unproven allegations. Why? Don't say it's because of the death of 34 divers, that many innocent folks are shot and killed every night in urban locations. Do you not give a rat's behind about them?

All investigations where fatalities are involved are treated as murder investigations because there is no way to go back in time nd reinvestigate the incident. I am involved in police investigations concerning death by vehicle all the time, when someone dies or is expected to die everything is photographed and measured before the road is reopened...………… it's not any easier when the NTSB and ATF are involved as they are here

Common knowledge if you had any

Just how many people have you killed with your car and boat?

ATF? What would Alcohol. Tobacco and Firearms have to do with this?

Call them and ask retard, do you enjoy being stupid?
I already told you that an accelerant is being investigated

Conception dive boat fire: Gusty winds postpone salvage efforts

ATF team arrives in Santa Barbara to investigate
In the meantime, a specialized team with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is arriving in Santa Barbara.

The ATF has been on scene since Monday, one of myriad local, state and federal agencies that has responded to the boat disaster. Now, the agency's National Response Team has been called in and is slated to start work Friday, said Carlos Canino, special agent in charge of the agency's field division.

"Our primary role is to determine the origin and cause of this fire," he said at a news briefing Friday.

Just further proof that out government is bloated and redundant. They have no business being there. The NTSB has their own fire experts.

Just further proof that you are wrong again

No, I am dead on! They have no business investigating this incident.

That would be like you being called in to investigate a collision at sea, since you know nothing about it.

 

[Frannie]

Yea tell us again that she died when Oxygen on the boat caught fire.

The oxygen did not catch fire. Again, for about the 30th time, you have failed to quote where I said that.

Oxygen is an accelerant but a part of the fire triangle. Without oxygen, nothing burns. You do know what a fire triangle is, don't you?

I know that the ATF is investigating this fire...…………….

Fart on kid

Please show me where the initials ATF pertain anywhere to fires. You don't know the fire triangle? Typical airheaded POS troll!

Still waiting on that quote, dumbass!

Conception dive boat fire: Gusty winds postpone salvage efforts

ATF team arrives in Santa Barbara to investigate
In the meantime, a specialized team with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is arriving in Santa Barbara.

The ATF has been on scene since Monday, one of myriad local, state and federal agencies that has responded to the boat disaster. Now, the agency's National Response Team has been called in and is slated to start work Friday, said Carlos Canino, special agent in charge of the agency's field division.

"Our primary role is to determine the origin and cause of this fire," he said at a news briefing Friday.

Dude you need to take your meds

Dude, you need to stop lying.

LOL as if anyone would bother to lie to an old fart like you

It is your fantasy that anyone even cares that you exist.

No one does

ATF team arrives in Santa Barbara to investigate
In the meantime, a specialized team with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is arriving in Santa Barbara.

The ATF has been on scene since Monday, one of myriad local, state and federal agencies that has responded to the boat disaster. Now, the agency's National Response Team has been called in and is slated to start work Friday, said Carlos Canino, special agent in charge of the agency's field division.

"Our primary role is to determine the origin and cause of this fire," he said at a news briefing Friday.