Overpaid CEOs and Greedy Capitalists.. oh my!

[Boss]

[...]

Why the hell would I be predisposed to greed? Just try to articulate why you think I believe greed is a good thing and we should have more of it? It is actually the rival system to free market capitalism, which GUARANTEES greed, corruption and graft, on a scale we have never even imagined before. ALL of this shit you keep telling us is a problem, from wealth disparity to middle class income and opportunity, will be considerably WORSE in a Communist, Socialist, or Maoist system.

In terms of raw animal impulse, greed is a normal disposition. We see it even in domesticated animals who are inclined to push others out of the way so to "hog" all the food at feeding time. But in the example of civilized, intelligent humans, i.e., behavior expressed in academic terms as normative humanism, this impulse, referred to as greed, is pathological. Abnormal.

Why would you be predisposed to greed? I am not a psychoanalyst, so I can't tell you why. But the fact that you are not consciously aware of your affliction is typical of most behavioral aberrations. I suggest the simple and logical approach to self-examination would be to give some thought to the primary objective of the situation you aspire to. Look at your avatar and think about what it is you emulate. What is its ultimate objective?

Offhand I would suggest you are a weak, insignificant individual who longs for power. And excessive wealth is the contemporary standard of power. So maybe it's as simple as that.

And that's all I have to say to you, "Boss."

First of all, you know absolutely nothing about me as a person, but you are judging me to be all kinds of things that you have no way to know, because you disagree with my opinion. Is this a common thing with you? Do you routinely stereotype others and cast judgement based on those stereotypes? You've done that here, and it doesn't appear you are even aware you are doing it, so I have to wonder if this isn't the norm for you.

The whole purpose of my thread and OP, is to dispel the myths about "greedy capitalists" and "overpaid CEOs." These may exist in an Eastern European oligarchy, where your Socialist-Marxist-Maoist philosophies were developed, but in our free market capitalist system, they simply don't. You are diligently attempting to draw this perception, because that is the only way your ideology makes any sense at all. In order to usher in your system, you have to first destroy confidence in our system. You do this through emotive memes, like "overpaid CEOs" and "greedy capitalists" but you fail to make your case because it's illogical.

Capitalists have no logical reason to expend profit paying a CEO "too much" and IF they ever did, another competing capitalist would make them pay dearly for this. Likewise, excess greed can't exist, because a competing capitalist who is less greedy, will clean your clock. This is the most important fundamental of free market capitalism, the existence of competition. It's why it becomes important to not allow monopolies, they are as big of a threat to free market capitalism as communism. Anything that you do to restrict or limit competition, whether it is monopolization, or government regulation, or even confiscation of potential investment capital, you are doing things to enable MORE GREED!

It's ironic that the very things you and the "99%ers" are squealing about, are an inescapable reality with any other system besides free market capitalism. Everything... from a "living wage" to the disparity between rich and poor, becomes a much more stark and real problem under the system you advocate. While the best maximum potential for all people, is found in free enterprise, free market capitalism and competition.

 

[AmazonTania]

By the way, it is hard to respond to all of your small statements. But I forgot this one, because it shows so well the state of your effort to prove your statements, stupidly:

Maybe you should stop butchering your responses, then it would be so difficult. It's bad enough that you can't understand what you are posting. I shouldn't have to fix your post so others can understand what you are posting.

You then show a shot of the davemanual.com home page, with a red circle around the word daves blogs. Now, again, tanya, please pay attention. You circled a LINK. I said that the site is what it is, a web site. And I said that he also had blogs. You proved the point that I had made.

Why do you keep lying as if no one can verify the lies that you tell. His homepage is a blog. You visit his webpage and the first things you encounter are blogs entries.

Dave Manuel - Real Estate, Stock Market and General Economy Views, Articles and Opinions

You try way to hard. You are looking like a total joke to anyone, and there are hundreds of thousands, who use davemanual, by working so hard to belittle it.

Most likely he is making up his credentials. He is used by hundreds of thousands, but only 366 people follow him on twitter. That's a joke.

https://twitter.com/davemanuelcom

The data that davemanual.com serves up is ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS EXACTLY CORRECT. NEVER IN ANY CASE IS IT INCORRECT. Ya think you look like a con tool???????????????????

Maybe. Maybe no. It doesn't really change the fact that you have like a secondary source and you are passing it off as a statistical website, when it is indeed in fact, a blog.

 

[georgephillip]

"Goldman Sachs' entry into the commodities market via the Goldman Sachs Commodity Index has been implicated by some in the 2007–2008 world food price crisis.

"In a 2010 article in Harper's magazine, Frederick Kaufman magazine accused Goldman Sachs of profiting while many people went hungry or even starved."

From Kaufman's book Bet the Farm:

"The wheat of ancient Egypt became the currency of ancient Egypt, the power behind the credit of the nation’s central bank, the marrow of its financial system. And thousands of years after the last pharaoh, grain stilled ruled.

"When the price of wheat spiked in 2011, hunger, violence, and political turmoil descended like a biblical plague, and the result was revolution” (115)..."

"Let’s say the price of food doubles in the next twenty years. The Arab Spring will seem like a pep rally. And no doubt, grain prices will stay volatile.

"Every day, three times as much speculative money is bet on the volatility of imaginary grain on the futures market as money is spent on the actual stuff.

"The global grain markets have attracted the attention of the investment bankers, the hedge-fund managers, and the sovereign wealth funds.

"And the price of global grain is 'discovered' on the futures markets.

"Every savvy money manager knows that, down the line, food will only become more 'valuable'—i.e., more expensive."

Bet the Farm | Harper's Magazine

"Bosses" from Pharaoh to Lloyd "Gods Work" Blankfein amass vast private fortunes from inflicting one plague after another on humanity. The name of their latest Brand is Capitalism. Obviously, only weak, insignificant porkers with no sense of morality or self-esteem would rise to CEO in that system.

Right, "Boss?"

 

[Boss]

"Bosses" from Pharaoh to Lloyd "Gods Work" Blankfein amass vast private fortunes from inflicting one plague after another on humanity. The name of their latest Brand is Capitalism. Obviously, only weak, insignificant porkers with no sense of morality or self-esteem would rise to CEO in that system.

Right, "Boss?"

Pharaoh is an ancient Egyptian ruler and Blankfein is a successful CEO. Pharaoh has nothing to do with this, other than... that's similar to what you advocate we must have to ensure fairness. Blankfein is noted as one of the most highly-paid CEOs, earning around $54 million per year, while his company reports profits of over $9.5 billion. Have they done this by taking advantage of less competition (which your ideas created)? Yep... it's what capitalists do, but it's not "greed."

You have a disdain for capitalists that is clouding your objectivity. The Marxists have done a great job of brainwashing you. It's impossible for me to ever penetrate your bigoted prejudices regarding free market capitalism, your mind is made up. Your head has been filled full of illogical nonsense, to the point that you can no longer even comprehend reality.

"Greedy capitalists" can only exist in a NON-FREE market system. Whenever freedom to compete is restricted, whenever government over-regulates, whenever we impose burdens or hinder capitalists practicing free market capitalism, whenever we attempt to control prices or confiscate wealth, we enable MORE GREED!

 

[georgephillip]

"Bosses" from Pharaoh to Lloyd "Gods Work" Blankfein amass vast private fortunes from inflicting one plague after another on humanity. The name of their latest Brand is Capitalism. Obviously, only weak, insignificant porkers with no sense of morality or self-esteem would rise to CEO in that system.

Right, "Boss?"

Pharaoh is an ancient Egyptian ruler and Blankfein is a successful CEO. Pharaoh has nothing to do with this, other than... that's similar to what you advocate we must have to ensure fairness. Blankfein is noted as one of the most highly-paid CEOs, earning around $54 million per year, while his company reports profits of over $9.5 billion. Have they done this by taking advantage of less competition (which your ideas created)? Yep... it's what capitalists do, but it's not "greed."

You have a disdain for capitalists that is clouding your objectivity. The Marxists have done a great job of brainwashing you. It's impossible for me to ever penetrate your bigoted prejudices regarding free market capitalism, your mind is made up. Your head has been filled full of illogical nonsense, to the point that you can no longer even comprehend reality.

"Greedy capitalists" can only exist in a NON-FREE market system. Whenever freedom to compete is restricted, whenever government over-regulates, whenever we impose burdens or hinder capitalists practicing free market capitalism, whenever we attempt to control prices or confiscate wealth, we enable MORE GREED!

Is Lloyd practicing greed or god's work in Egypt?

"Sure, that box of Wheaties is getting a little slimmer, and that gallon of milk a little pricier, but we are still paying 10 to 12 percent of our weekly take-home pay on food. And that percentage has stayed roughly the same even though the price of global grain has almost tripled since 2002. Why? Because American wheat is subsidized wheat, and when we pay for a packaged good, we are mostly paying for the packaging. In a country like Egypt, on the other hand, the percentage of weekly take-home pay devoted to food has surpassed forty, and people are just as apt to purchase wheat as Wheaties."

Bet the Farm | Harper's Magazine

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

"Goldman Sachs' entry into the commodities market via the Goldman Sachs Commodity Index has been implicated by some in the 2007–2008 world food price crisis.

"In a 2010 article in Harper's magazine, Frederick Kaufman magazine accused Goldman Sachs of profiting while many people went hungry or even starved."

From Kaufman's book Bet the Farm:

"The wheat of ancient Egypt became the currency of ancient Egypt, the power behind the credit of the nation’s central bank, the marrow of its financial system. And thousands of years after the last pharaoh, grain stilled ruled.

"When the price of wheat spiked in 2011, hunger, violence, and political turmoil descended like a biblical plague, and the result was revolution” (115)..."

"Let’s say the price of food doubles in the next twenty years. The Arab Spring will seem like a pep rally. And no doubt, grain prices will stay volatile.

"Every day, three times as much speculative money is bet on the volatility of imaginary grain on the futures market as money is spent on the actual stuff.

"The global grain markets have attracted the attention of the investment bankers, the hedge-fund managers, and the sovereign wealth funds.

"And the price of global grain is 'discovered' on the futures markets.

"Every savvy money manager knows that, down the line, food will only become more 'valuable'—i.e., more expensive."

Bet the Farm | Harper's Magazine

"Bosses" from Pharaoh to Lloyd "Gods Work" Blankfein amass vast private fortunes from inflicting one plague after another on humanity. The name of their latest Brand is Capitalism. Obviously, only weak, insignificant porkers with no sense of morality or self-esteem would rise to CEO in that system.

Right, "Boss?"

"In a 2010 article in Harper's magazine, Frederick Kaufman magazine accused Goldman Sachs of profiting while many people went hungry or even starved."

I accuse Fred of being another leftist idiot, but then I repeat myself, who doesn't understand how markets work. If he wants to blame someone for rising food prices, he needs to look at any politician, right or left, that supports putting corn ethanol in our gas tanks.

 

[MikeK]

"In a 2010 article in Harper's magazine, Frederick Kaufman magazine accused Goldman Sachs of profiting while many people went hungry or even starved."

I accuse Fred of being another leftist idiot, but then I repeat myself, who doesn't understand how markets work. If he wants to blame someone for rising food prices, he needs to look at any politician, right or left, that supports putting corn ethanol in our gas tanks.

I look forward to your article contradicting Kaufman. Will it appear in Harper's? (Got a date yet?)

 

[Boss]

Is Lloyd practicing greed or god's work in Egypt?

I have no idea of what you are talking about here, I am sure it makes for emotive heart wrenching propaganda.... but a CEO does not control wheat markets, subsidies, or consumers.

Food prices are not rising because a CEO greedily wants more money! IF that is what you believe, you seriously need to educate yourself on how free markets work.

Before Obama, gas was under $2 a gallon, now people get laughed off the stage if they suggest we can return to $2 a gallon gas, and the price has almost doubled. Fuel cost is the #1 factor in determining cost of food. It has to be used in order to plant, grow and harvest, and then, distribute and transport. Double the price of fuel, and you guarantee the price of food will rise in accordance. The CEO of Goldman Sachs, has absolutely NOTHING to do with this!

 

[georgephillip]

"Goldman Sachs' entry into the commodities market via the Goldman Sachs Commodity Index has been implicated by some in the 2007–2008 world food price crisis.

"In a 2010 article in Harper's magazine, Frederick Kaufman magazine accused Goldman Sachs of profiting while many people went hungry or even starved."

From Kaufman's book Bet the Farm:

"The wheat of ancient Egypt became the currency of ancient Egypt, the power behind the credit of the nation’s central bank, the marrow of its financial system. And thousands of years after the last pharaoh, grain stilled ruled.

"When the price of wheat spiked in 2011, hunger, violence, and political turmoil descended like a biblical plague, and the result was revolution” (115)..."

"Let’s say the price of food doubles in the next twenty years. The Arab Spring will seem like a pep rally. And no doubt, grain prices will stay volatile.

"Every day, three times as much speculative money is bet on the volatility of imaginary grain on the futures market as money is spent on the actual stuff.

"The global grain markets have attracted the attention of the investment bankers, the hedge-fund managers, and the sovereign wealth funds.

"And the price of global grain is 'discovered' on the futures markets.

"Every savvy money manager knows that, down the line, food will only become more 'valuable'—i.e., more expensive."

Bet the Farm | Harper's Magazine

"Bosses" from Pharaoh to Lloyd "Gods Work" Blankfein amass vast private fortunes from inflicting one plague after another on humanity. The name of their latest Brand is Capitalism. Obviously, only weak, insignificant porkers with no sense of morality or self-esteem would rise to CEO in that system.

Right, "Boss?"

"In a 2010 article in Harper's magazine, Frederick Kaufman magazine accused Goldman Sachs of profiting while many people went hungry or even starved."

I accuse Fred of being another leftist idiot, but then I repeat myself, who doesn't understand how markets work. If he wants to blame someone for rising food prices, he needs to look at any politician, right or left, that supports putting corn ethanol in our gas tanks.

I thought that was the lobbyists?
How would you critique this bit of Fred-idiocy?

"That great philosophical debate—nominalism versus realism—has become ever more relevant in our age of head-over-heels romance with the virtual, the indexical, and the derivative. The futures markets trade a nominalist version of corn and soy and wheat—a version that consists of promises to buy and sell imaginary grain.

"For more than a hundred years, these markets allowed people in the food business, the so-called 'bona-fide hedgers,' to manage their risks and stabilize the natural peaks and valleys of a seasonal entity (i.e., grain) that we must have every day (i.e., bread).

"But since 2008, hundreds of billions in new speculative money have poured into these markets, upsetting their equilibrium, sending false price signals, increasing volatility, and allowing all manner of insider-trading abuse. The commodity markets have been subverted by a slew of new derivative products, and the price of imaginary wheat has come to control the price of the real thing. So..."

Bet the Farm | Harper's Magazine

Is Lloyd Bankfiend confused about what's real and what's imaginary

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

"In a 2010 article in Harper's magazine, Frederick Kaufman magazine accused Goldman Sachs of profiting while many people went hungry or even starved."

I accuse Fred of being another leftist idiot, but then I repeat myself, who doesn't understand how markets work. If he wants to blame someone for rising food prices, he needs to look at any politician, right or left, that supports putting corn ethanol in our gas tanks.

I look forward to your article contradicting Kaufman. Will it appear in Harper's? (Got a date yet?)

I'll get right on that.
Maybe you can explain how Goldman, if they aren't storing grain in their office building, makes the price of grain go up?
Feel free to use Fred's article, or actual facts, if you can find them.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

"Goldman Sachs' entry into the commodities market via the Goldman Sachs Commodity Index has been implicated by some in the 2007–2008 world food price crisis.

"In a 2010 article in Harper's magazine, Frederick Kaufman magazine accused Goldman Sachs of profiting while many people went hungry or even starved."

From Kaufman's book Bet the Farm:

"The wheat of ancient Egypt became the currency of ancient Egypt, the power behind the credit of the nation’s central bank, the marrow of its financial system. And thousands of years after the last pharaoh, grain stilled ruled.

"When the price of wheat spiked in 2011, hunger, violence, and political turmoil descended like a biblical plague, and the result was revolution” (115)..."

"Let’s say the price of food doubles in the next twenty years. The Arab Spring will seem like a pep rally. And no doubt, grain prices will stay volatile.

"Every day, three times as much speculative money is bet on the volatility of imaginary grain on the futures market as money is spent on the actual stuff.

"The global grain markets have attracted the attention of the investment bankers, the hedge-fund managers, and the sovereign wealth funds.

"And the price of global grain is 'discovered' on the futures markets.

"Every savvy money manager knows that, down the line, food will only become more 'valuable'—i.e., more expensive."

Bet the Farm | Harper's Magazine

"Bosses" from Pharaoh to Lloyd "Gods Work" Blankfein amass vast private fortunes from inflicting one plague after another on humanity. The name of their latest Brand is Capitalism. Obviously, only weak, insignificant porkers with no sense of morality or self-esteem would rise to CEO in that system.

Right, "Boss?"

"In a 2010 article in Harper's magazine, Frederick Kaufman magazine accused Goldman Sachs of profiting while many people went hungry or even starved."

I accuse Fred of being another leftist idiot, but then I repeat myself, who doesn't understand how markets work. If he wants to blame someone for rising food prices, he needs to look at any politician, right or left, that supports putting corn ethanol in our gas tanks.

I thought that was the lobbyists?
How would you critique this bit of Fred-idiocy?

"That great philosophical debate—nominalism versus realism—has become ever more relevant in our age of head-over-heels romance with the virtual, the indexical, and the derivative. The futures markets trade a nominalist version of corn and soy and wheat—a version that consists of promises to buy and sell imaginary grain.

"For more than a hundred years, these markets allowed people in the food business, the so-called 'bona-fide hedgers,' to manage their risks and stabilize the natural peaks and valleys of a seasonal entity (i.e., grain) that we must have every day (i.e., bread).

"But since 2008, hundreds of billions in new speculative money have poured into these markets, upsetting their equilibrium, sending false price signals, increasing volatility, and allowing all manner of insider-trading abuse. The commodity markets have been subverted by a slew of new derivative products, and the price of imaginary wheat has come to control the price of the real thing. So..."

Bet the Farm | Harper's Magazine

Is Lloyd Bankfiend confused about what's real and what's imaginary

That great philosophical debate—nominalism versus realism

Philosophy or markets? Give me a break. Fred is an idiot.
I suspect Lloyd has a much better grasp on reality than poor Fred.

 

[georgephillip]

Is Lloyd practicing greed or god's work in Egypt?

I have no idea of what you are talking about here, I am sure it makes for emotive heart wrenching propaganda.... but a CEO does not control wheat markets, subsidies, or consumers.

Food prices are not rising because a CEO greedily wants more money! IF that is what you believe, you seriously need to educate yourself on how free markets work.

Before Obama, gas was under $2 a gallon, now people get laughed off the stage if they suggest we can return to $2 a gallon gas, and the price has almost doubled. Fuel cost is the #1 factor in determining cost of food. It has to be used in order to plant, grow and harvest, and then, distribute and transport. Double the price of fuel, and you guarantee the price of food will rise in accordance. The CEO of Goldman Sachs, has absolutely NOTHING to do with this!

Really?
The CEO of Goldman Sachs has no influence over "too many dollars chasing too few goods?"
Did Milton know...

"Leah McGrath Goodman, a reporter with experience covering commodities markets, described an experience writing about the Goldman Sachs Commodities Index in her book 'The Asylum'.

"Around 2007, she wrote an article for the Futures Industry Association trade magazine about the indexes. She concluded the massive amount of money in the indexes following the oil futures market dwarfed the actual oil futures market, by around 5 to 1.

"She alluded to the theories of Milton Friedman, who believed that inflation was caused by 'too many dollars chasing after too few goods'.

"She concluded that the indexes were apparently thus causing oil prices to rise.

"Her article was dropped after a man from the FIA magazine showed it 'to people around Washington' and told her it would be 'politically explosive'".

Politically explosive. Wow!
Think there might be a few pressure cookers the size of oil tankers about to BOOM on Wall Street?

S&P GSCI - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

"She concluded that the indexes were apparently thus causing oil prices to rise.

of course that's perfectly stupid and liberal. As oil prices rise, speculators must pay more and more to buy indexes until they get worried about the price being too high, and then they must start selling (which you have to do to make a profit) making the price go lower and lower. Thus, speculating in indexes is just as likely to make price go up as down. Way way over a liberal's head - right???

"Her article was dropped after a man from the FIA magazine showed it 'to people around Washington' and told her it would be 'politically explosive'".

Politically explosive. Wow!

there is nothing explosive about pure liberal ignorance

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Is Lloyd practicing greed or god's work in Egypt?

I have no idea of what you are talking about here, I am sure it makes for emotive heart wrenching propaganda.... but a CEO does not control wheat markets, subsidies, or consumers.

Food prices are not rising because a CEO greedily wants more money! IF that is what you believe, you seriously need to educate yourself on how free markets work.

Before Obama, gas was under $2 a gallon, now people get laughed off the stage if they suggest we can return to $2 a gallon gas, and the price has almost doubled. Fuel cost is the #1 factor in determining cost of food. It has to be used in order to plant, grow and harvest, and then, distribute and transport. Double the price of fuel, and you guarantee the price of food will rise in accordance. The CEO of Goldman Sachs, has absolutely NOTHING to do with this!

Really?
The CEO of Goldman Sachs has no influence over "too many dollars chasing too few goods?"
Did Milton know...

"Leah McGrath Goodman, a reporter with experience covering commodities markets, described an experience writing about the Goldman Sachs Commodities Index in her book 'The Asylum'.

"Around 2007, she wrote an article for the Futures Industry Association trade magazine about the indexes. She concluded the massive amount of money in the indexes following the oil futures market dwarfed the actual oil futures market, by around 5 to 1.

"She alluded to the theories of Milton Friedman, who believed that inflation was caused by 'too many dollars chasing after too few goods'.

"She concluded that the indexes were apparently thus causing oil prices to rise.

"Her article was dropped after a man from the FIA magazine showed it 'to people around Washington' and told her it would be 'politically explosive'".

Politically explosive. Wow!
Think there might be a few pressure cookers the size of oil tankers about to BOOM on Wall Street?

S&P GSCI - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

She concluded the massive amount of money in the indexes following the oil futures market dwarfed the actual oil futures market, by around 5 to 1.

Futures markets have dwarfed the underlying markets for a long long time. So what?

"She alluded to the theories of Milton Friedman, who believed that inflation was caused by 'too many dollars chasing after too few goods'.

The futures market doesn't increase the money supply.

Her article was dropped after a man from the FIA magazine showed it 'to people around Washington' and told her it would be 'politically explosive'".

More likely because she is an idiot.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

"She alluded to the theories of Milton Friedman, who believed that inflation was caused by 'too many dollars chasing after too few goods'.

so??? she alluded, but did she say Friedman was wrong and why he was wrong. Of course Friedman was 100% correct and poor George has no clue why or why not. He merely cuts and pastes that which he can't understand, but in his liberal heart he knows he's right.

 

[Boss]

Is Lloyd practicing greed or god's work in Egypt?

I have no idea of what you are talking about here, I am sure it makes for emotive heart wrenching propaganda.... but a CEO does not control wheat markets, subsidies, or consumers.

Food prices are not rising because a CEO greedily wants more money! IF that is what you believe, you seriously need to educate yourself on how free markets work.

Before Obama, gas was under $2 a gallon, now people get laughed off the stage if they suggest we can return to $2 a gallon gas, and the price has almost doubled. Fuel cost is the #1 factor in determining cost of food. It has to be used in order to plant, grow and harvest, and then, distribute and transport. Double the price of fuel, and you guarantee the price of food will rise in accordance. The CEO of Goldman Sachs, has absolutely NOTHING to do with this!

Really?
The CEO of Goldman Sachs has no influence over "too many dollars chasing too few goods?"
Did Milton know...blahblahbla blah blahblah blah..

Like I said, I am sure it is emotive and heart wrenching propaganda.

ALL of this SHIT is designed and intended to play on the heartstrings of the ignorant. It is easily lapped up by morons who have no clue how free market capitalism works, or what it has done for our nation and the people of our nation.

The system you wish to destroy, has produced more millionaires and billionaires than any other societal system ever conceived by mankind. It has bailed out the failing economies of other nations. It has sent more humanitarian aid and disaster relief than any other. People around the globe, DREAM of coming here, to enjoy the opportunity and freedom to be successful in a free market capitalist system.

Speculators buying stocks in futures trading, are simply engaging in capitalist enterprise. If you don't LIKE what they are doing, you can pass laws to prohibit it, but be prepared to live with the consequences. There is a valid reason we allow speculation on futures, it serves a purpose and need, and you should try to pull your head out of your ass and understand it, rather than break down in emotive despair over it. People are not ******* you over! There is no concerted effort by capitalists to make you poor, it completely defeats their motives as capitalists for you to be poor.

 

[Rshermr]

By the way, it is hard to respond to all of your small statements. But I forgot this one, because it shows so well the state of your effort to prove your statements, stupidly:

Maybe you should stop butchering your responses, then it would be so difficult. It's bad enough that you can't understand what you are posting. I shouldn't have to fix your post so others can understand what you are posting.

You then show a shot of the davemanual.com home page, with a red circle around the word daves blogs. Now, again, tanya, please pay attention. You circled a LINK. I said that the site is what it is, a web site. And I said that he also had blogs. You proved the point that I had made.

Why do you keep lying as if no one can verify the lies that you tell. His homepage is a blog. You visit his webpage and the first things you encounter are blogs entries.

No you do not. Not a single blog entry on his home page. Go do a little home work. Find out what blog entries are. Thencome back and we can talk.

Dave Manuel - Real Estate, Stock Market and General Economy Views, Articles and Opinions

You try way to hard. You are looking like a total joke to anyone, and there are hundreds of thousands, who use davemanual, by working so hard to belittle it.

Most likely he is making up his credentials. He is used by hundreds of thousands, but only 366 people follow him on twitter. That's a joke.

https://twitter.com/davemanuelcom

The data that davemanual.com serves up is ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS EXACTLY CORRECT. NEVER IN ANY CASE IS IT INCORRECT. Ya think you look like a con tool???????????????????

Maybe. Maybe no. It doesn't really change the fact that you have like a secondary source and you are passing it off as a statistical website, when it is indeed in fact, a blog.

Sorry. Look up blog. Then look up blog entries. You showed the home page of a web site, which had news headlines and links to info about those news articles. But there are no blog entries, dipshit. Again. Go look up the definition of blog. I dealt with web site creation for years. What you are saying is simply funny to me. Now, Amazon, my poor ignorant money changer, this web site has a link to his blog. Which is also available on the web. But that is a different thing. You see, blogs entries are generally made by anyone who wants to do so and are shown in the reverse order of entry. Try to go out and see if you can find some examples. Kind of like a little school project. And by the way, my poor ignorant money changer, MANY. MANY web sites have links to their blog site. As this one does. What that tells most even barely intelligent people is that they are not currently on a blog site.

What you circled on the copy of the davemanual website home page, was content. That is what web sites tend to do, my ignorant con tool. They serve up content. Blogs have bloggers, web sites have content. Some web sites have blog entries also. This one does not. Best of luck trying to understand this. Because you seem to be lost.

Sorry, but you are really trying hard to criticize a very well respected data provider. Not a data originator. But then, neither is the st. Louis Fed. And no, I am not criticizing the st. Louis fed, but it does not originate data, it gathers and disseminates it. dipshit. But what is really funny is that you really think that we should believe you, an obvious con tool, who starts out by saying that she is not a con???? Really, me poor ignorant con. Really. Graph lady and her laptop. Funny.

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[AmazonTania]

Sorry. Look up blog. Then look up blog entries.

Why? They're both the same thing...

You showed the home page of a web site, which had news headlines and links to info about those news articles. But there are no blogs, dipshit. Again. Go look up the definition of blog.

You click on the headlines and the hyperlinks send you to a post on the site. On these post they contain information about experiences, observations, opinions, with hyperlinks and images. Guess what? DaveManuel contains all of these things, and it fits the definiton of what a blog is exactly.

I dealt with web site creation for years. What you are saying is simply funny to me. Now, Amazon, my poor ignorant money changer, this web site has a link to his blog.

His website has the same domain as his blog. The hyperlinks on his website are directing you to blog entries on the same site. You've dealt with website creation for many years and you don't know that two different sites cannot have the same domain name?

You are truly a unique individual. I wish I can develop skills in the virtual world by creating aspects of my life which doesn't exist. No way, I actually can. It's called 'The Internet.'

Which is also available on the web. But that is a different thing. You see, blogs entries are generally made by anyone who wants to do so and are shown in the reverse order of entry. Try to go out and see if you can find some examples. Kind of like a little school project. And by the way, my poor ignorant money changer, MANY. MANY web sites have links to their blog site. As this one does.

That's because his blog IS his website. The website is not directing you to a different website. It's directing you to a different page on the same site.

Are you stupid, or do you just believe everyone else is and won't actually verify what you are saying for themselves.

What that tells most even barely intelligent people is that they are not currently on a blog site.

Another poorly phrased sentence with a cheap attempt to insult. Most of my time is spent advancing my career. I have better things to do with my time than write blogs for political hacks such as yourself to pass off as statistical data.

Sorry, but you are really trying hard to criticize a very well respected data provider.

Dave Manuel is secondary source. He is not a data provider. You're trying extra hard to defend him, and guess what. It isn't working.

Not a data originator. But then, neither is the st. Louis Fed. And no, I am not criticizing the st. Louis fed, but it does not originate data, it gathers and disseminates it. dipshit.

It doesn't have the originate the data. FRED is the data base and retrieval system maintained by the Federal Reserve Bank of St Louis. It gathers data from other data originators and allows you to adjust time periods, units and other things. The FRED data is the same data you would get exactly from the BLS, BEA, Commerce Department, Census, CBO, and other agencies around the world.

DaveManuel is just a blog. That's all it'll ever be.

But what is really funny is that you really think that we should believe you, an obvious con tool, who starts out by saying that she is not a con???? Really, me poor ignorant con. Really.

I don't care if you believe me or not. I have my data and my data is verifiable and indisputable. If you don't like the data, that is your opinion. If you don't believe the data, that is your right. I often question certain Government Statistics because I know the changes the Government has made in regards to the methodology.

But you have no other reason to question my statistics, other than the fact that you don't like who is presenting the data. And this is why you will never be taken seriously.

Graph lady and her laptop. Funny.

How did you know I have a laptop? Oh no! I've been figured out!

Read these:even barely intelligent people is that they are not at the blog but could get there.

Wow. Almost every word in that sentence was a train wreck. That's gotta be a new record. Congrats.

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Nice. Again, I fail to see what this has to do with me because I am not a conservative, nor do I watch Fox News. My guess is that you need a way to deflect from the issue or possibility of you being outed as another liar and you figured that this is your way to do it. Sorry, but this isn't going to work.

 

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So, Amazon, you started out commenting that you should look up blog and blog entry.

Why? They're both the same thing...

That is why I had hoped you would look them up. A blog entry is a specific entry on a blog. See the dif???

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You showed the home page of a web site, which had news headlines and links to info about those news articles. But there are no blogs, dipshit. Again. Go look up the definition of blog.

You click on the headlines and the hyperlinks send you to a post on the site. On these post they contain information about experiences, observations, opinions, with hyperlinks and images. Guess what? DaveManuel contains all of these things, and it fits the definiton of what a blog is exactly.

The hyperlink will send you to information about that headline. What did you think happened on web pages. Never see a hyperlink there. But, you see, the hyperlink does not take you to a blog post, it takes you to information about that headline. Perhaps, me dear, the whole article.

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I dealt with web site creation for years. What you are saying is simply funny to me. Now, Amazon, my poor ignorant money changer, this web site has a link to his blog.

His website has the same domain as his blog. The hyperlinks on his website are directing you to blog entries on the same site. You've dealt with website creation for many years and you don't know that two different sites cannot have the same domain name?

Now, here is a new term for you. It is called hosting. It is not unusual. And yes, me poor con, it does indeed have the same domain. That happens, you see, if you host the data. It is very, very common, by the way. Any other stupid questions???

You are truly a unique individual. I wish I can develop skills in the virtual world by creating aspects of my life which doesn't exist. No way, I actually can. It's called 'The Internet.'

I wish you can too.

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Which is also available on the web. But that is a different thing. You see, blogs entries are generally made by anyone who wants to do so and are shown in the reverse order of entry. Try to go out and see if you can find some examples. Kind of like a little school project. And by the way, my poor ignorant money changer, MANY. MANY web sites have links to their blog site. As this one does.

That's because his blog IS his website. The website is not directing you to a different website. It's directing you to a different page on the same site.

That would be highly possible. I did not check to see. Because, you see, it makes no difference. Same domain, different domain. They would both belong to the same owner, most likely. Did you have a point???

Are you stupid, or do you just believe everyone else is and won't actually verify what you are saying for themselves.

I would hope they would. I suspect that most know how to recognize a web site and how to recognize a blog. I think you are the first I have met that does not recognize the difference.

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What that tells most even barely intelligent people is that they are not currently on a blog site.

Another poorly phrased sentence with a cheap attempt to insult. Most of my time is spent advancing my career. I have better things to do with my time than write blogs for political hacks such as yourself to pass off as statistical data.

Not poorly phrased at all. What it means is that if you are on a web site with a link to a blog, then by definition you are not on the blog.
Now, I have to admit I have never been to that blog. And obviously you have not either. So, you are criticizing something you know nothing about. Which is not unusual for you. But, on the other hand, having said you do not blog because it is a waste of time (or whatever) you do spend a WHOLE LOT OF TIME ON THIS DISCUSSION BOARD DOING THE SAME THING YOU JUST SAID SOMEONE WHO YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT DOES. Or, actually, you assume he does. Because, you see, dipshit, blogs frequently are set up for those who chose to use them, while the person who sets them up only administers them.

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Sorry, but you are really trying hard to criticize a very well respected data provider.

Dave Manuel is secondary source. He is not a data provider. You're trying extra hard to defend him, and guess what. It isn't working.

Another malfunction of yours. I do not need to defend DaveManual.com.

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Not a data originator. But then, neither is the st. Louis Fed. And no, I am not criticizing the st. Louis fed, but it does not originate data, it gathers and disseminates it. dipshit.

It doesn't have the originate the data. FRED is the data base and retrieval system maintained by the Federal Reserve Bank of St Louis. It gathers data from other data originators and allows you to adjust time periods, units and other things. The FRED data is the same data you would get exactly from the BLS, BEA, Commerce Department, Census, CBO, and other agencies around the world.

And that would make it, by your very definition, A SECONDARY SOURCE. And it also allows you to manipulate the data. So does Davemanual.com. I gues that is as close to you admitting a mistake as we will ever see. Funny.

DaveManuel is just a blog. That's all it'll ever be.

Well, you can stamp your feet, jump up and cry. Makes no difference. DaveManuel has a blog. But davemanual is a data delivery and data storage source with tools that allow many really intelligent people to quickly find the data that they want. Now, it is not a data analysis source. You can choose the data, and you can export it to excel if you are so inclined. But it is a presentation product, and allows you to analyze the data. Same thing can be said of the St Louis Fed.

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But what is really funny is that you really think that we should believe you, an obvious con tool, who starts out by saying that she is not a con???? Really, me poor ignorant con. Really.

I don't care if you believe me or not. I have my data and my data is verifiable and indisputable. If you don't like the data, that is your opinion. If you don't believe the data, that is your right. I often question certain Government Statistics because I know the changes the Government has made in regards to the methodology.

But you have no other reason to question my statistics, other than the fact that you don't like who is presenting the data. And this is why you will never be taken seriously.

That is bs, me dear. All I have to do is take a look back at your multiple charts showing that there is a current demonstrable cost in employment resulting from the aca. Get a grip on yourself. In most of your chart presentations, should I want to, I could take your arguments that you believe your charts prove apart. You are wasting my time. And I do not appreciate it.

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Graph lady and her laptop. Funny.
How did you know I have a laptop? Oh no! I've been figured out!

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Read these:even barely intelligent people is that they are not at the blog but could get there.

Wow. Almost every word in that sentence was a train wreck. That's gotta be a new record. Congrats.

Actually, I did not write that. did a little cut and paste and lost track of where I put it. My fault, but not my intent. Just one of those things. But I am sure you will make a big deal out of it.


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University Study Shows People With Lower IQ's Are Political Conservatives
University Study Shows People With Lower IQ's Are Political Conservatives


Brock University Study Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice | Racism, Bias & Politics | Right-Wing and Left-Wing Ideology | LiveScience


New Study Reveals That Stupidity Can Make You Conservative And Racist

U of Arkansas study Study ?Proves? Conservatism Linked To Stupidity - The Ulsterman Report

British Cohort study Right-wingers are less intelligent than left wingers, says controversial study - and conservative politics can lead people to be racist | Mail Online

LiveScience study Social conservatives have a lower I.Q.? (probably) : Gene Expression

Watching Fox makes you stupid Study: Watching Fox News Actually Makes You Stupid | Jillian Rayfield | Politics News | Rolling Stone

Nice. Again, I fail to see what this has to do with me because I am not a conservative, nor do I watch Fox News. My guess is that you need a way to deflect from the issue or possibility of you being outed as another liar and you figured that this is your way to do it. Sorry, but this isn't going to work.

Sure. You are not a con. You just allign yourself PERFECTLY with the far right con web sites every single time. No exceptions. Sorry, con tool, I do not believe in that much coincidence. You are a con, every post I have seen you make shows you to be a con, you associate with cons. Jesus.


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LiveScience study Social conservatives have a lower I.Q.? (probably) : Gene Expression

If Aristotle Locke Jefferson and Friedman were stupid please explain exactly where or admit you totally lack the IQ to do so and have no business being here. Thanks