Ousted GOP speaker of house in Arizona: "This place has lost it's mind."

These are the same goons who viciously attacked outnumbered police at the Capitol, and threaten law enforcement agents for acting in the interest of national security. Once vulnerable patsies swallow the "Big Lie," democratic elections themselves become farcical. The disgusting aspect is that those parroting the lie don't buy it themselves. If they were merely monumentally stupid rather than consummately cynical, it wouldn't be as bad.

Rep. Peter Meijer (R-Mich.) tells an insider story about why so many Republicans are embracing former President Trump’s extremism.
“I can’t tell you the number of times somebody said, ‘You don’t have to believe the election is stolen, the important thing isn’t believing it, it’s saying it,’” Meijer confided to the New York Times after losing a GOP primary in early August. “That is what a Republican is supposed to do right now.”
Meijer’s quote sticks out because he said publicly what I hear in off-the-record, private dinners in D.C.
GOP senators and House members say they don’t believe the nonsense they spew in fundraising emails, on right-wing radio and at campaign rallies.
They see all the lies and distortions as political hardball, the price of admission to Trump-era politics. The false claims are cynical tools for winning power by stirring up populist anger in today’s right-wing voters...
The damage that trump has done to our nation's electoral system is immeasurable. Because the man stood behind a podium and lied that there was "massive voter fraud", laws and policies have been adopted that will suppress and discourage voters in the near future. This is all taking place because a whiny old man could not admit another old man defeated him.

It will take generations for our electoral system to recover, if it ever does.
 
The damage that trump has done to our nation's electoral system is immeasurable. Because the man stood behind a podium and lied that there was "massive voter fraud", laws and policies have been adopted that will suppress and discourage voters in the near future. This is all taking place because a whiny old man could not admit another old man defeated him.

It will take generations for our electoral system to recover, if it ever does.
Rational thinking overwhelmed by dogmatic belief.
 
“I can’t tell you the number of times somebody said, ‘You don’t have to believe the election is stolen, the important thing isn’t believing it, it’s saying it,’” Meijer confided to the New York Times after losing a GOP primary in early August. “That is what a Republican is supposed to do right now.”

Meijer’s quote sticks out because he said publicly what I hear in off-the-record, private dinners in D.C.

GOP senators and House members say they don’t believe the nonsense they spew in fundraising emails, on right-wing radio and at campaign rallies.

They see all the lies and distortions as political hardball, the price of admission to Trump-era politics. The false claims are cynical tools for winning power by stirring up populist anger in today’s right-wing …”

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This is an absolutely perfect diagnosis of the cynicism of Republican leaders. Of course you won’t find many Trump supporters here who recognize how sick and dangerous a game is being played on them. Most will just boast how such messengers of truth are being purged and primaried out of power! — leaving only the most cynical and craven grifters to supposedly represent their MAGA will.

 
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This is an absolutely perfect diagnosis of the cynicism of Republican leaders. Of course you won’t find many Trump supporters here who recognize how sick and dangerous a game is being played on them. Most will just boast how such messengers of truth are being purged and primaried out of power! — leaving only the most cynical and craven grifters to supposedly represent their MAGA will.

It is as if democracy has become a video game with no reference to reality. You just make up your own rules that comport with your agenda, not objective truth.

As the legal walls (not the one he made Mexico pay for) close in on the Loser, he retreats deeper into fantasy:



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Trump on Monday took time off from melting down over the FBI executing a search warrant at his home to seize classified documents to demand that he be installed as commander-in-chief of the United States—22 months after he decisively lost the 2020 race.
The twice-impeached ex-president, though, did propose a “minimal solution” if he is not returned to the White House right away: Declare the 2020 vote “irreparably compromised” and hold a new one “immediately.”...

Trump, who has repeatedly and falsely claimed that the 2020 presidential election was “stolen” due to widespread election fraud, took to his troubled social media site Truth Social in order to amplify this latest talking point.
 
It's patriotic to protest at the homes of those you disagree with politically. It's patriotic to stop traffic and prevent ambulances from getting to the hospital. Even if someone dies. The cause is that important.
QFP
 
It is as if democracy has become a video game with no reference to reality. You just make up your own rules that comport with your agenda, not objective truth.

As the legal walls (not the one he made Mexico pay for) close in on the Loser, he retreats deeper into fantasy:



Trump on Monday took time off from melting down over the FBI executing a search warrant at his home to seize classified documents to demand that he be installed as commander-in-chief of the United States—22 months after he decisively lost the 2020 race.
The twice-impeached ex-president, though, did propose a “minimal solution” if he is not returned to the White House right away: Declare the 2020 vote “irreparably compromised” and hold a new one “immediately.”...

Trump, who has repeatedly and falsely claimed that the 2020 presidential election was “stolen” due to widespread election fraud, took to his troubled social media site Truth Social in order to amplify this latest talking point.
Schitfap never stops spewing bullshit.
 
That's unfortunate. I notice your outrage is limited to Trump supporters and you could care less about the maniacs threatening our Supreme Court Justices. Maybe you could be less politically selective about your outrage.


Some members of the SCOTUS have essentially committed treason.
Instead of supporting individual rights demanded by the 14th amendment, they prattle on about "states rights", which do not at all exist.
Only individuals have "rights", and states only have "delegated authority" that derives from the need to protect those individual rights.
They have violated their oath of office and the foundation of a republic.
 
But yet you were fine with an armed assassin stalking Kavanaugh at his home and angry protesting daily in front of his home, shouting and obscenities and threats at his wife and kids all because Kavanaugh had the gall to stand up to bullies.

We know these things happened to Kavanaugh. They are completely documented. However, we do not know if any of the Arizona speaker's accounts are true. We only have his words.

Kavanaugh is a liar and traitor.
There is no way a real SCOTUS could have given states authority over pregnant women.
 
The damage that trump has done to our nation's electoral system is immeasurable. Because the man stood behind a podium and lied that there was "massive voter fraud", laws and policies have been adopted that will suppress and discourage voters in the near future. This is all taking place because a whiny old man could not admit another old man defeated him.

It will take generations for our electoral system to recover, if it ever does.

Nonsense.
A lot more NEEDS to be done.
For example, voting machines need to be outlawed.
There is zero reason for them except to make cheating much easier.
While I do not think there was any significant coordinated effort to cheat in the last election, voting machines have and will be used in order to cheat.
All they do is facilitate cheating, and that is their sole purpose.

We also need to allow all ex-felons to vote.
That would eliminate the denial of valid voters who simply have the same name as felons, and also eliminate taxation without representation of ex-felons.
 
It is as if democracy has become a video game with no reference to reality. You just make up your own rules that comport with your agenda, not objective truth.

As the legal walls (not the one he made Mexico pay for) close in on the Loser, he retreats deeper into fantasy:



Trump on Monday took time off from melting down over the FBI executing a search warrant at his home to seize classified documents to demand that he be installed as commander-in-chief of the United States—22 months after he decisively lost the 2020 race.
The twice-impeached ex-president, though, did propose a “minimal solution” if he is not returned to the White House right away: Declare the 2020 vote “irreparably compromised” and hold a new one “immediately.”...

Trump, who has repeatedly and falsely claimed that the 2020 presidential election was “stolen” due to widespread election fraud, took to his troubled social media site Truth Social in order to amplify this latest talking point.

You are missing the point.
I do not like Trump, his politics, or believe the election has any massive fraud.

BUT, it should be clear to anyone, the 2 impeachments were totally illegal and partisan propaganda, the search warrant, for Mar-a-lago completely illegal, and fake insurrection trials, are way beyond what is tolerable by any democratic republic.
Those responsible have to be held criminally liable, and we have to stop other crimes, like the illegal arming of the Ukraine in violation of treaties and promises.
We are on the verge of WWIII, where no one wins.
 

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