Our survival by 2049 depends on our independence by tariffs like 25% on Apple and other companies!
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Trump is not demanding that Apples all be manufactured in the US
But he is pushing to decouple from china
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At 82 years old I'll not see the year 2049.
But my granddaughter and other relatives may still be around when this might happen.
"Imagine waking up tomorrow and your phone has no signal. Your smart home isn’t working. Your Ring camera is offline. You get in your car, but your GPS won’t route. Worse, every traffic light in town is out. Intersections are a mess of blaring horns and confusion. Sirens echo in the distance. You drive to an ATM, hoping to grab some cash. The screen flickers, then goes black. It’s not just your neighborhood. It’s not just your state. The entire nation has gone dark."
China has an off-switch for America, and we aren’t ready to deal with it.
China has developed asymmetric weapons known as assassin’s maces that could cripple America’s infrastructure, and Congress must act to strengthen America’s digital backbone to pre…thehill.comTrump threatens Apple with a 25% tariff if it doesn’t build iPhones in America
And I'm so in favor of it!
Shareholders who's main concern is today's value of shares are responsible indirectly for the independence of our future generations!
China still accounts for the majority of Apple iPhone production but the tech giant has sought to ramp up manufacturing in places like India and Vietnam across its product range.Apr 3, 2025
So Americans... you want to be free... INDEPENDENT... Trump's 25% tariff on Apple is a perfect example of how WE the consumers will be paying for our independence !
Come on folks... again by 2049 China will if we don't change our dependence shut America down!!!
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They took our TVs (RCA MAGNAVOX), they took our cable TV boxes, PC & tablets, chips & wafers etc... .they did not get every Automobile company yet.
They left hair salons, piercings shops and tattoo parlors. Enjoy.
They left hair salons, piercings shops and tattoo parlors. Enjoy.
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...wtf?
Trump threatens 25% tariff on Apple, other tech giants if they don't start making devices in America
It's the president's latest salvo directly targeting a U.S. company after he hit out at Walmart and Mattel.
www.nbcnews.com
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Bullshit. It just had another name. Jim Crow had the same effect as slave labor.
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Well, if you look at the autos being produced in China, and the quality of the autos for the price, that is next on the list. Until Musk went off on his drug induced insanity and became a Trumpanzee, we had a chance. That is gone now, the Chinese EV's are many years ahead of Tesla, and cost less than ICE cars. Some even have over 500 miles range, and their battery plants are at least five years ahead of what we have. So what is this admin's answer to that? Destroy as much basic research in this nation as possible and degrade education as much as possible. A winning policy, I am sure.
Old Rocks
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Great, if you want to spend $3500 for a phone, and wait ten years to get it....wtf?
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Trump threatens 25% tariff on Apple, other tech giants if they don't start making devices in America
It's the president's latest salvo directly targeting a U.S. company after he hit out at Walmart and Mattel.
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Thanks for the update and I stand corrected...wtf?
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Trump threatens 25% tariff on Apple, other tech giants if they don't start making devices in America
It's the president's latest salvo directly targeting a U.S. company after he hit out at Walmart and Mattel.
What is the practical result?
Trump has a good idea but not enough time to carry it out
3 years is not long enough to relocate Apple production to the US and trump knows it
Eventually he will have to compromise on this issue
But I suspect he will get something of value for America
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Trump has a very bad ideas if what you want is lower inflation and stable bussiness environment.
Apple and Sumsung will pay the 25% tariff and keep making their phones overseas while Americans will have to pay more for their phones.
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I think you are wrong
Foreign companies including Apple will move as much production as possible to the US
Which may not be much in only 3 years
then negotiate for relief as long as they dont produce in china
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We do want to lower inflation
But it is not the only goal
Reducing our dependance on china matters also even if globalists in America cant see it
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And I'm sure Trump with his 54 years in business understands relocation time frames, BUT someone had to start the
process of bringing back simply as a security issue important components, etc extremely important to our security.
"Imagine waking up tomorrow and your phone has no signal. Your smart home isn’t working. Your Ring camera is offline. You get in your car, but your GPS won’t route. Worse, every traffic light in town is out. Intersections are a mess of blaring horns and confusion. Sirens echo in the distance. You drive to an ATM, hoping to grab some cash. The screen flickers, then goes black. It’s not just your neighborhood. It’s not just your state. The entire nation has gone dark."
So-called “assassin’s maces” play a central role in China’s plan to become the world’s sole superpower by 2049. Of the many known assassin’s maces, four demand immediate attention:
China has an off-switch for America, and we aren’t ready to deal with it.
China has developed asymmetric weapons known as assassin’s maces that could cripple America’s infrastructure, and Congress must act to strengthen America’s digital backbone to pre…
thehill.com
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The anti trump crowd always underestimates trumpAnd I'm sure Trump with his 54 years in business understands relocation time frames, BUT someone had to start the
process of bringing back simply as a security issue important components, etc extremely important to our security.
"Imagine waking up tomorrow and your phone has no signal. Your smart home isn’t working. Your Ring camera is offline. You get in your car, but your GPS won’t route. Worse, every traffic light in town is out. Intersections are a mess of blaring horns and confusion. Sirens echo in the distance. You drive to an ATM, hoping to grab some cash. The screen flickers, then goes black. It’s not just your neighborhood. It’s not just your state. The entire nation has gone dark."
So-called “assassin’s maces” play a central role in China’s plan to become the world’s sole superpower by 2049. Of the many known assassin’s maces, four demand immediate attention:
China has an off-switch for America, and we aren’t ready to deal with it.
China has developed asymmetric weapons known as assassin’s maces that could cripple America’s infrastructure, and Congress must act to strengthen America’s digital backbone to pre…thehill.com
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healthmyths
I take the threat of chinese cyber warfare seriously
But not to the extent of bowing down to them
I think we may have dome tricks of our own in response
I take the threat of chinese cyber warfare seriously
But not to the extent of bowing down to them
I think we may have dome tricks of our own in response
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You are 100% right!
And I'm sure Trump with his 54 years in business understands relocation time frames, BUT someone had to start the
process of bringing back simply as a security issue important components, etc extremely important to our security.
"Imagine waking up tomorrow and your phone has no signal. Your smart home isn’t working. Your Ring camera is offline. You get in your car, but your GPS won’t route. Worse, every traffic light in town is out. Intersections are a mess of blaring horns and confusion. Sirens echo in the distance. You drive to an ATM, hoping to grab some cash. The screen flickers, then goes black. It’s not just your neighborhood. It’s not just your state. The entire nation has gone dark."
So-called “assassin’s maces” play a central role in China’s plan to become the world’s sole superpower by 2049. Of the many known assassin’s maces, four demand immediate attention:
Encouraging businesses to have Chinese slave labor provide goods and services was morally and security deficiencies!
And I'm sure Trump with his 54 years in business understands relocation time frames, BUT someone had to start the
process of bringing back simply as a security issue important components, etc extremely important to our security.
"Imagine waking up tomorrow and your phone has no signal. Your smart home isn’t working. Your Ring camera is offline. You get in your car, but your GPS won’t route. Worse, every traffic light in town is out. Intersections are a mess of blaring horns and confusion. Sirens echo in the distance. You drive to an ATM, hoping to grab some cash. The screen flickers, then goes black. It’s not just your neighborhood. It’s not just your state. The entire nation has gone dark."
So-called “assassin’s maces” play a central role in China’s plan to become the world’s sole superpower by 2049. Of the many known assassin’s maces, four demand immediate attention:
China has an off-switch for America, and we aren’t ready to deal with it.
China has developed asymmetric weapons known as assassin’s maces that could cripple America’s infrastructure, and Congress must act to strengthen America’s digital backbone to pre…
thehill.com
I agree with all you said! Definitely "bowing" as what we've done including GOPers in past administrations.
Encouraging businesses to have Chinese slave labor provide goods and services was morally and security deficiencies!
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As I've repeatedly said... I personally don't like Trump's braggart,narcissistic loud mouth personality. He is though an executive that has been successful and who also loves America,Americans,military and law enforcement. All attributes I also have. Looking beyond my personal dislike I look at what helps America first and Trump has! But the juvenile MSM never felt prior to Trump's Democrat party membership and donations... but when he became a realist i.e. GOP... they hated him so much the 3 major networks donated over $400 million in free advertising on evening news with this!
From June 1 through July 31, the ABC, CBS and NBC evening newscasts focused 512 minutes of airtime on the President, or nine times more than the 58 minutes allotted to Biden,” During these two months, our analysts documented 668 evaluative statements about the President, 95% of which (634) were negative, vs. a mere 5% (34) that were positive.”
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Yea yea, sure, sure.
You give Americans a choice to buy a $1000 iphone made in China and same iphone made in America for $3000 and you'll learn very quick what all the "globalists" and "dependance on China" rhetoric is worth.
Smartphones are not a critical production (unlike some other vital products) and we have no "dependancy" serious enough to make the sort of economic sacrifices that are needed to produce them domesticaly.
If Trump had a SERIOUS long term plan to bring production to United States then he would also take care of the labor side of the equation through vast expansion of immigration quotas and vocational training programs that would lay the groundwork to bring manufacturing back to United States that could get within even a 100 miles of being able to meet our demand.
Instead of steadfast, well thought out, well defined policies we have a daily make-it-up-as-we-go-along shitshow chaos that stinks of corrupt favoritism and is highly incoherent and desruptive to bussinesses.
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The price of IPhones is not going to rise to $3,000 if they are no longer made in china
Trump is pushing Apple to decouple from china and hopefully that will result in more US production
Thats good for America
