Our survival by 2049 depends on our independence by tariffs like 25% on Apple and other companies!

[AntonToo]

He is though an executive that has been successful

What has Trump been successful at? Branding, thats it.

His specialty is putting on a show and selling bullshit to impressionable dummies who don't know better. He has never built anything worthwhile, his companies that aren't already bankrupt have about as much legacy as his meme coins.

who also loves America,Americans,military and law enforcement.

Yea sure, he loves America so much that he pumped his supporters full of bullshit about an election he lost and instigated an attack on our Congress. Then sat by and watched Capitol get sacked and cops get beaten up. To this day he lies to Americans about that election.

He loves cops so much that he even pardoned all the J6 cop beaters as soon as he got back into office.

What a great patriot, what a selfless stud.

 

[healthmyths]

Yea yea, sure, sure.

You give Americans a choice to buy a $1000 iphone made in China and same iphone made in America for $3000 and you'll learn very quick what all the "globalists" and "dependance on China" rhetoric is worth.

Smartphones are not a critical production (unlike some other vital products) and we have no "dependancy" serious enough to make the sort of economic sacrifices that are needed to produce them domesticaly.

If Trump had a SERIOUS long term plan to bring production to United States then he would also take care of the labor side of the equation through vast expansion of immigration quotas and vocational training programs that would lay the groundwork to bring manufacturing back to United States that could get within even a 100 miles of being able to meet our demand.

Instead of steadfast, well thought out, well defined policies we have a daily make-it-up-as-we-go-along shitshow chaos that stinks of corrupt favoritism and is highly incoherent and desruptive to bussinesses.

You wrote.."Instead of steadfast, well thought out, well defined policies we have a daily make-it-up-as-we-go-along shitshow"
I'm pretty confident that these expenditures weren't "well thought out, well defined policies"... that cost those of us,
(evidently you don't!!) paid federal taxes used for these totally wrong projects!

FACTCHECKED: Sorting Out the Facts on 'Waste and Abuse' at USAID - FactCheck.org

These projects were FUNDED with your tax dollars UNDER USAID and the State Department!

• $1.5 million to “advance diversity equity and inclusion in Serbia’s workplaces and business communities”
• $70,000 for production of a “DEI musical” in Ireland
• $2.5 million for electric vehicles for Vietnam
• $47,000 for a “transgender opera” in Colombia
• $32,000 for a “transgender comic book” in Peru
• $2 million for sex changes and “LGBT activism” in Guatemala
• $6 million to fund tourism in Egypt
• Hundreds of thousands of dollars for a non-profit linked to designated terrorist organizations — even AFTER an inspector general launched an investigation
• Millions to EcoHealth Alliance — which was involved in research at the Wuhan lab
• “Hundreds of thousands of meals that went to al Qaeda-affiliated fighters in Syria”
• Funding to print “personalized” contraceptives birth control devices in developing countries
• Hundreds of millions of dollars to fund “irrigation canals, farming equipment, and even fertilizer used to support the unprecedented poppy cultivation and heroin production in Afghanistan,” benefiting the Taliban

At USAID, Waste and Abuse Runs Deep

For decades, the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) has been unaccountable to taxpayers as it funnels massive sums of money to the

www.whitehouse.gov

$206

 

[Mac-7]

Instead of steadfast, well thought out, well defined policies we have a daily make-it-up-as-we-go-along shitshow chaos that stinks of corrupt favoritism and is highly incoherent and desruptive to bussinesses.

As a student of history trump’s battle with the globalists reminds me of FDR’s New Deal which was alway chaotic

New Deal $1 a year men were often accused of “making it up” as they went along

 

[leftwinger]

What has Trump been successful at? Branding, thats it.

His specialty is putting on a show and selling bullshit to impressionable dummies who don't know better.



Yea sure, he loves America so much that he pumped his supporters full of bullshit about an election he lost and instigated an attack on our Congress. Then sat by and watched Capitol get sacked and cops get beaten up. To this day he lies to Americans about that election.

He loves cops so much that he even pardoned all the J6 cop beaters as soon as he got back into office.

What a great patriot, what a selfless stud.

Do you have any idea how stupid you appear you brown tounged cow with flies swarming your puss filled eyes. Get off the boards till you wise up.

Nobody can even read thru your filth. As the first sentence creates shock and awe to your level of stupidity to even post that malarkey. Compared to any Obiden regime? Never worked one job, one day. Get out of here little boy. Playing on mommies PC again?

 

[leftwinger]

You wrote.."Instead of steadfast, well thought out, well defined policies we have a daily make-it-up-as-we-go-along shitshow"
I'm pretty confident that these expenditures weren't "well thought out, well defined policies"... that cost those of us,
(evidently you don't!!) paid federal taxes used for these totally wrong projects!

FACTCHECKED: Sorting Out the Facts on 'Waste and Abuse' at USAID - FactCheck.org

These projects were FUNDED with your tax dollars UNDER USAID and the State Department!

• $1.5 million to “advance diversity equity and inclusion in Serbia’s workplaces and business communities”
• $70,000 for production of a “DEI musical” in Ireland
• $2.5 million for electric vehicles for Vietnam
• $47,000 for a “transgender opera” in Colombia
• $32,000 for a “transgender comic book” in Peru
• $2 million for sex changes and “LGBT activism” in Guatemala
• $6 million to fund tourism in Egypt
• Hundreds of thousands of dollars for a non-profit linked to designated terrorist organizations — even AFTER an inspector general launched an investigation
• Millions to EcoHealth Alliance — which was involved in research at the Wuhan lab
• “Hundreds of thousands of meals that went to al Qaeda-affiliated fighters in Syria”
• Funding to print “personalized” contraceptives birth control devices in developing countries
• Hundreds of millions of dollars to fund “irrigation canals, farming equipment, and even fertilizer used to support the unprecedented poppy cultivation and heroin production in Afghanistan,” benefiting the Taliban

At USAID, Waste and Abuse Runs Deep

For decades, the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) has been unaccountable to taxpayers as it funnels massive sums of money to the

www.whitehouse.gov

$206

They are too evil, too filled with Leftist TDS (like Mac) to even acknowledge the waste and theft (kickbacks). Or they are posting from GOVT computers in support of Deep Stat (in do-nothing GOVT jobs, on the take so to speak). Never forget# they paid the media to Lie…..as we all knew something was going on?

 

[AntonToo]

Do you have any idea how stupid you appear you brown tounged cow with flies swarming your puss filled eyes. Get off the boards till you wise up.

You apear very smart. True story

 

[AntonToo]

You wrote.."Instead of steadfast, well thought out, well defined policies we have a daily make-it-up-as-we-go-along shitshow"
I'm pretty confident that these expenditures weren't "well thought out, well defined policies"... that cost those of us,
(evidently you don't!!) paid federal taxes used for these totally wrong projects!

FACTCHECKED: Sorting Out the Facts on 'Waste and Abuse' at USAID - FactCheck.org

These projects were FUNDED with your tax dollars UNDER USAID and the State Department!

• $1.5 million to “advance diversity equity and inclusion in Serbia’s workplaces and business communities”
• $70,000 for production of a “DEI musical” in Ireland
• $2.5 million for electric vehicles for Vietnam
• $47,000 for a “transgender opera” in Colombia
• $32,000 for a “transgender comic book” in Peru
• $2 million for sex changes and “LGBT activism” in Guatemala
• $6 million to fund tourism in Egypt
• Hundreds of thousands of dollars for a non-profit linked to designated terrorist organizations — even AFTER an inspector general launched an investigation
• Millions to EcoHealth Alliance — which was involved in research at the Wuhan lab
• “Hundreds of thousands of meals that went to al Qaeda-affiliated fighters in Syria”
• Funding to print “personalized” contraceptives birth control devices in developing countries
• Hundreds of millions of dollars to fund “irrigation canals, farming equipment, and even fertilizer used to support the unprecedented poppy cultivation and heroin production in Afghanistan,” benefiting the Taliban

At USAID, Waste and Abuse Runs Deep

For decades, the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) has been unaccountable to taxpayers as it funnels massive sums of money to the

www.whitehouse.gov

$206

...USAID?

Moron, the discussion is about administration's economic policies.

You are seriously out on the moon.

 

[healthmyths]

$4million to Ben Stiller (and few others) to visit the green midget Zelensky to normalize the war? Huh?

Now you see Stiller courtside at Knicks games in a million dollar season ticket…..that we paid for. Board Stain laugh and mock about stuff like this.

According to this source that never happened.

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/e-news-did-not-report-that-usaid-sponsored-celebrity-visits-ukraine-2025-02-11/

 

[sealybobo]

At 82 years old I'll not see the year 2049.
But my granddaughter and other relatives may still be around when this might happen.
"Imagine waking up tomorrow and your phone has no signal. Your smart home isn’t working. Your Ring camera is offline. You get in your car, but your GPS won’t route. Worse, every traffic light in town is out. Intersections are a mess of blaring horns and confusion. Sirens echo in the distance. You drive to an ATM, hoping to grab some cash. The screen flickers, then goes black. It’s not just your neighborhood. It’s not just your state. The entire nation has gone dark."

China has an off-switch for America, and we aren’t ready to deal with it.

China has developed asymmetric weapons known as assassin’s maces that could cripple America’s infrastructure, and Congress must act to strengthen America’s digital backbone to pre…

thehill.com

Trump threatens Apple with a 25% tariff if it doesn’t build iPhones in America​

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/23/economy/trump-threatens-tariff-apple

And I'm so in favor of it!
Shareholders who's main concern is today's value of shares are responsible indirectly for the independence of our future generations!
China still accounts for the majority of Apple iPhone production but the tech giant has sought to ramp up manufacturing in places like India and Vietnam across its product range.Apr 3, 2025

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/03/apple-iphone-production-in-china-india-in-focus-after-trump-tariffs.html#:~:text=China%20still%20accounts%20for%20the,Vietnam%20across%20its%20product%20range.

So Americans... you want to be free... INDEPENDENT... Trump's 25% tariff on Apple is a perfect example of how WE the consumers will be paying for our independence !

Come on folks... again by 2049 China will if we don't change our dependence shut America down!!!

This weekend they said "It's impossible to build them here". Somehow, I don't believe that. With automation, we should be able to build Iphones at home. Not for the rest of the world. Only what we buy here at home.

This is no different than China telling Apple they have to make them there if they want to sell them to the Chinese people.

This will raise the cost of Iphones. Will our government subsidize apple? Give them most favorable tax breaks? That's fine. Even my brother who's a big Trump fan says it takes very little hands to make these phones. Child hands. Women. We don't have the manpower. Well again, I'm not talking about supplying the entire world like China does now. We just want to make the phones Americans buy.

Yes, bringing iPhone production to the U.S. would likely increase the price of iPhones due to higher labor costs and potential tariffs on imported components. Some analysts estimate a U.S.-made iPhone could cost around $3,500

I thought Trump was going to fix America for dopes like you. Now you're buying into that he's going to save your grandkids. YOU will pay $3500 more just for your phone.

Tell me, now much more are you willing to pay a year for Trump? $10,000 a year more? Add everything up that's about what you're going to be paying. So you must really like Trump huh?

 

[healthmyths]

...USAID?

Moron, the discussion is about administration's economic policies.

You are seriously out on the moon.

Well...ignoramous.... you think spending for these following wasteful projects is NOT an economic policy?

• $1.5 million to “advance diversity equity and inclusion in Serbia’s workplaces and business communities”
• $70,000 for production of a “DEI musical” in Ireland
• $2.5 million for electric vehicles for Vietnam
• $47,000 for a “transgender opera” in Colombia
• $32,000 for a “transgender comic book” in Peru
• $2 million for sex changes and “LGBT activism” in Guatemala
• $6 million to fund tourism in Egypt
• Hundreds of thousands of dollars for a non-profit linked to designated terrorist organizations — even AFTER an inspector general launched an investigation
• Millions to EcoHealth Alliance — which was involved in research at the Wuhan lab
• “Hundreds of thousands of meals that went to al Qaeda-affiliated fighters in Syria”
• Funding to print “personalized” contraceptives birth control devices in developing countries
• Hundreds of millions of dollars to fund “irrigation canals, farming equipment, and even fertilizer used to support the unprecedented poppy cultivation and heroin production in Afghanistan,” benefiting the Taliban

Sorting Out the Facts on 'Waste and Abuse' at USAID - FactCheck.org

As President Donald Trump's administration targets the U.S. Agency for International Development for closure or major downsizing, the White House and social media posts have highlighted four projects as examples of the agency's "waste and abuse." But only one was funded by USAID.

www.factcheck.org

 

[AntonToo]

The price of IPhones is not going to rise to $3,000 if they are no longer made in china

...we have just been over this.

Trump doesn't want not-made-in China and I don't understand why you keep repeating that red herring.

Trump specifically wants American made smartphones and yes, by credible estimates it would cost about 3 times more.

$3,500 American Made IPhone May Slash Apple Sales By $153 Billion

After its stock fell 20% this year, Apple's tariff woes could be resolved by producing iPhones in the U.S. But the tripling in price could cut Apple sales 39%.

www.forbes.com

 

[leftwinger]

According to this source that never happened.

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/e-news-did-not-report-that-usaid-sponsored-celebrity-visits-ukraine-2025-02-11/

OK thanks. I will reluctantly retract and delete unless someone finds a good source.

As they were paying the “media” I am reluctant to believe the “media” denial. But….in this one case I am happy if false.

 

[AntonToo]

Well...ignoramous.... you think spending for these following wasteful projects is NOT an economic policy?

• $1.5 million to “advance diversity equity and inclusion in Serbia’s workplaces and business communities”
• $70,000 for production of a “DEI musical” in Ireland
• $2.5 million for electric vehicles for Vietnam
• $47,000 for a “transgender opera” in Colombia
• $32,000 for a “transgender comic book” in Peru
• $2 million for sex changes and “LGBT activism” in Guatemala
• $6 million to fund tourism in Egypt
• Hundreds of thousands of dollars for a non-profit linked to designated terrorist organizations — even AFTER an inspector general launched an investigation
• Millions to EcoHealth Alliance — which was involved in research at the Wuhan lab
• “Hundreds of thousands of meals that went to al Qaeda-affiliated fighters in Syria”
• Funding to print “personalized” contraceptives birth control devices in developing countries
• Hundreds of millions of dollars to fund “irrigation canals, farming equipment, and even fertilizer used to support the unprecedented poppy cultivation and heroin production in Afghanistan,” benefiting the Taliban

Sorting Out the Facts on 'Waste and Abuse' at USAID - FactCheck.org

As President Donald Trump's administration targets the U.S. Agency for International Development for closure or major downsizing, the White House and social media posts have highlighted four projects as examples of the agency's "waste and abuse." But only one was funded by USAID.

www.factcheck.org

You are a total idiot who is unable to rationally discuss a topic (tariffs, trade and manufacturing here) and you prove it with your every post.

 

[Mac-7]

...we have just been over this.

Trump doesn't want not-made-in China and I don't understand why you keep repeating that red herring.

Trump specifically wants American made smartphones and yes, by credible estimates it would cost about 3 times more.

$3,500 American Made IPhone May Slash Apple Sales By $153 Billion

After its stock fell 20% this year, Apple's tariff woes could be resolved by producing iPhones in the U.S. But the tripling in price could cut Apple sales 39%.

www.forbes.com

Yes Trump wants iPhones made in America

Motorola practically invented the cell phone and used to make them in America

But no one including trump expects that to happen again in the next 3 years

Lets wait and see what the final compromise is

 

[leftwinger]

This weekend they said "It's impossible to build them here". Somehow, I don't believe that. With automation, we should be able to build Iphones at home. Not for the rest of the world. Only what we buy here at home.

This is no different than China telling Apple they have to make them there if they want to sell them to the Chinese people.

This will raise the cost of Iphones. Will our government subsidize apple? Give them most favorable tax breaks? That's fine. Even my brother who's a big Trump fan says it takes very little hands to make these phones. Child hands. Women. We don't have the manpower. Well again, I'm not talking about supplying the entire world like China does now. We just want to make the phones Americans buy.

Yes, bringing iPhone production to the U.S. would likely increase the price of iPhones due to higher labor costs and potential tariffs on imported components. Some analysts estimate a U.S.-made iPhone could cost around $3,500

I thought Trump was going to fix America for dopes like you. Now you're buying into that he's going to save your grandkids. YOU will pay $3500 more just for your phone.

Tell me, now much more are you willing to pay a year for Trump? $10,000 a year more? Add everything up that's about what you're going to be paying. So you must really like Trump huh?

There are automated wave solder machines in-use since the early 80s’. No one needs “small hands” to sol

This weekend they said "It's impossible to build them here". Somehow, I don't believe that. With automation, we should be able to build Iphones at home. Not for the rest of the world. Only what we buy here at home.

This is no different than China telling Apple they have to make them there if they want to sell them to the Chinese people.

This will raise the cost of Iphones. Will our government subsidize apple? Give them most favorable tax breaks? That's fine. Even my brother who's a big Trump fan says it takes very little hands to make these phones. Child hands. Women. We don't have the manpower. Well again, I'm not talking about supplying the entire world like China does now. We just want to make the phones Americans buy.

Yes, bringing iPhone production to the U.S. would likely increase the price of iPhones due to higher labor costs and potential tariffs on imported components. Some analysts estimate a U.S.-made iPhone could cost around $3,500

I thought Trump was going to fix America for dopes like you. Now you're buying into that he's going to save your grandkids. YOU will pay $3500 more just for your phone.

Tell me, now much more are you willing to pay a year for Trump? $10,000 a year more? Add everything up that's about what you're going to be paying. So you must really like Trump huh?

Not sure why they need so much small hands labor for APPL phones as you and your brother suggest. PC boards are wave soldered by machine since 1980 at least. Yes "0603" Surface mount components are small. Too small to see with maked eye....but you can do anything in USA you can do elsewhere. Small hands not required?

 

[Mac-7]

...we have just been over this.

Trump doesn't want not-made-in China and I don't understand why you keep repeating that red herring.

Trump specifically wants American made smartphones and yes, by credible estimates it would cost about 3 times more.

$3,500 American Made IPhone May Slash Apple Sales By $153 Billion

After its stock fell 20% this year, Apple's tariff woes could be resolved by producing iPhones in the U.S. But the tripling in price could cut Apple sales 39%.

www.forbes.com

The problem is that trump is looking out for the best interests of Americans whereas Apple only cares about its corporate bottom line

There has to be a compromise between the two

 

[AntonToo]

Yes Trump wants iPhones made in America

Motorola practically invented the cell phone and used to make them in America

But no one including trump expects that to happen again in the next 3 years

Lets wait and see what the final compromise is

Yea sure, lets close our eyes at all the volatility Trump's incoherent make-it-up-on-the-fly trade policy is stiring up daily and just "see".

In Dear Leader we trust. It will all be just fine and it's definetly not a trainwreck to nowhere like his first presidency.

 

[Mac-7]

Yea sure, lets close our eyes at all the volatility Trump's incoherent make-it-up-on-the-fly trade policy is stirring up and just "see".

In Dear Leader we trust. It will all be just fine and it's definetly not a trainwreck to nowhere like his first presidency.

I concede that it can be chaotic at times

But its for a good cause
Just like FDRs New Deal

 

[healthmyths]

You are a total idiot who is unable to rationally discuss a topic (tariffs, trade and manufacturing here) and you prove it with your every post.

You are so uninformed. FACTCHECK.org verifies the FACTS that you ignorantly ignore!
A) How many people believe FACTCHECK.org is a legitimate fact checking group?
From this rating service:
https://www.allsides.com/news-source/factcheckorg-media-bias
they find: FactCheck.org
Bias Rating: Lean Left
Type: Fact Check
Region: National
B) So even a left leaning BIASED fact checking site finds the follow FACTS TRUE, i.e. the spending by the federal government for wasteful spending that obviously YOU AGREED to the wasting of tax money, that I'm confident you've never paid!

Factcheck.org FACTS:
Sorting Out the Facts on 'Waste and Abuse' at USAID - FactCheck.org
These projects were FUNDED with your tax dollars UNDER USAID and the State Department!

• $1.5 million to “advance diversity equity and inclusion in Serbia’s workplaces and business communities”
• $70,000 for production of a “DEI musical” in Ireland
• $2.5 million for electric vehicles for Vietnam
• $47,000 for a “transgender opera” in Colombia
• $32,000 for a “transgender comic book” in Peru
• $2 million for sex changes and “LGBT activism” in Guatemala
• $6 million to fund tourism in Egypt
• Hundreds of thousands of dollars for a non-profit linked to designated terrorist organizations — even AFTER an inspector general launched an investigation
• Millions to EcoHealth Alliance — which was involved in research at the Wuhan lab
• “Hundreds of thousands of meals that went to al Qaeda-affiliated fighters in Syria”
• Funding to print “personalized” contraceptives birth control devices in developing countries
• Hundreds of millions of dollars to fund “irrigation canals, farming equipment, and even fertilizer used to support the unprecedented poppy cultivation and heroin production in Afghanistan,” benefiting the Taliban
• At USAID, Waste and Abuse Runs Deep

 

[AntonToo]

The problem is that trump is looking out for the best interests of Americans whereas Apple only cares about its corporate bottom line

There has to be a compromise between the two

Americans have NO INTEREST in paying $3000 for an iPhone.

The compromise is for Trump to shove his daily tarrifs up his you know what and to do what voters primarily put him in office to do - REDUCE PRICES AND GROW ECONOMY.