Our Commander in Chief spoke to military leadership.

The Trump regime is testing military loyalty.
Yep. What do these generals do if they're given an order by the CIC to shoot protestors? Or a guy holding a mean sign? Is that constitutional?

I'll guarantee they've all thought about what they would do in such a situation. They have to decide what's right, right on the spot.
 
Trump, in meandering remarks that stretched about an hour and 10 minutes, joked that if those in attendance did not like what he had to say, they could leave the room — but “there goes your rank, there goes your future
Are you a retard or something??
 
They know that Trump (or, by extension, his lapdog the part time teevee host) may very well give them an order that's unconstitutional.
mandating vaccines was unconstitutional under xiden. you didn't say shit.
 
You know the majority of our military leadership is well informed and ethical, and they had to listen to this. They have to know, deep inside, even if unable, or unwilling, to talk about it, that the man is nuts.

Are they all privately asking themselves, will I carry out an illegal, unconstitutional command? That these accomplished leaders, with command experience, were lectured by a journalist with no leadership skills would be comical, were it not such a dangerous time in this country.





Trump, in meandering remarks that stretched about an hour and 10 minutes, joked that if those in attendance did not like what he had to say, they could leave the room — but “there goes your rank, there goes your future,” he added, drawing some uncomfortable laughter. Since returning to power, Trump and Hegseth have fired numerous generals and admirals, often without cause — and focusing on a disproportionate number of women.

The president defended his polarizing use of the armed forces to police American cities, decrying what he said was “the enemy within” while insisting he should be allowed to use military force domestically. He extolled his decision to rebrand the Defense Department as the Department of War, lamented his inability to end the conflict in Ukraine, and tacitly acknowledged the highly sensitive movements of U.S. submarines off the coast of Russia.

“I call it the ‘n-word,’” the president said of the submarines, appearing to allude to the vessels’ nuclear power. “There are two n-words, and you can’t use either of them.”

The assembled military brass sat through the presentations mostly silent, in keeping with the military’s nonpartisan tradition. Peter Feaver, a political scientist at Duke University, said that they “managed well a very difficult walk along a high wire” by listening respectfully to both partisan speeches without responding. Trump and Hegseth, he added, also deserve credit for showing that they understand why the military leaders were remaining quiet.

During his remarks, Hegseth, a former Fox News personality who served as an officer in the National Guard at times, lectured the men and women — each with decades more military experience — seated silently before him. He vowed to make the military “stronger, tougher, faster, fiercer and more powerful than it has ever been before,” repeating numerous talking points he has used throughout his tenure atop the Pentagon — including that the military brass needs to crack down on standards ranging from physical fitness to grooming and discipline.

Hegseth blamed “foolish and reckless politicians” for allowing the military to stray from its primary focus, to fight and win wars, and pledged to fix what he called “decades of decay” in the force. He also declared that “politically correct and overbearing rules of engagement,” the guidelines that shape how U.S. troops use lethal force in combat, are gone.

Hegseth said he will overhaul the channels troops and civilian employees have available to them to anonymously file whistleblower complaints, report toxic leadership, or point out unequal treatment based on race, gender, sexuality or religion.

“No more frivolous complaints. No more anonymous complaints, no more repeat complaints, no more smearing reputations, no more endless waiting, no more legal limbo, no more sidetracking careers. No more walking on eggshells,” Hegseth pronounced. “Of course, being a racist has been illegal in our formations since 1948. The same goes for sexual harassment. Both are wrong and illegal.”

WaPo


"During his remarks, Hegseth, a former Fox News personality who served as an officer in the National Guard at times, lectured the men and women — each with decades more military experience — seated silently before him. "

The morons at WaPo should look at the careers of our past Sec Defs. Austin and Mattis were the exception not the rule. Hegseth regardless of whether he is a good or bad Sec Def has similar military experience as the vast majority of past Sec Def's In fact he has more than most.
 
They know that Trump (or, by extension, his lapdog the part time teevee host) may very well give them an order that's unconstitutional.

Imagine that situation. In the heat of the moment, they have to try to determine whether an order is unconstitutional. So they'd have to put their careers (and perhaps freedom) on the line by refusing an order. What a rotten position to be in because of these two clowns.

But guys like that would stay and do it if they had to. Otherwise they might be replaced by another lap dog.
as Lincoln once relied on; Civil war, think the army was involved.


President Abraham Lincoln relied on the oath to defend his decision to suspend unilaterally the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus,8 claiming that the presidential oath required the President to disregard “a single law” if doing so would preserve the Union.9 President Lincoln similarly justified his position on emancipation of enslaved persons during the Civil War by invoking the presidential oath:

I did understand . . . that my oath to preserve the Constitution to the best of my ability, imposed upon me the duty of preserving, by every indispensable means, that government—that nation—of which that Constitution was the organic law. . . . I felt that measures, otherwise unconstitutional, might become lawful, by becoming indispensable to the preservation of the Constitution, through the preservation of the nation. Right or wrong, I assumed this ground, and now avow it. I could not feel that, to the best of my ability, I had even tried to preserve the Constitution, if, to save slavery, or any minor matter, I should permit the wreck of government, country, and Constitution all together.
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Lots of your fellow loons are making this criticism. Have you never worked in a corporation? Didn't they have meetings for Sr. Mgmt back at headquarters?
Senior Executives have a very packed schedule and would be given months notice of a mandatory meeting

To give Generals and Admirals stationed around the world DAYS to appear at a mandatory pep rally shows Hegseth is inept
 
Yep. What do these generals do if they're given an order by the CIC to shoot protestors? Or a guy holding a mean sign? Is that constitutional?
How about if an American said mean things on the internet? Can you drone strike him with a hellfire missile? That's what Obama did.

Your constant ridiculous paranoid delusions about Trump are a symptom of your TDS affliction. Seek help from a qualified mental health professional.
 
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They may decide they have to refuse an order that they feel is unconstitutional, Einstein.

Calm down. You people are nuts.
you're calling for a coup and we should settle down. Only in Mac's head.
 
Trump's and Hegseth's speeches before the generals and officers of the military were an absolute disgrace. They were condescending and insulting. Trump especially sounded like a tinpot dictator spouting about a "war within" and US cities as training grounds for the military.

If this nation's leadership had any balls, they would be discussing the 25th Amendment to get Trump out of office. He is that far gone and deranged.

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Senior Executives have a very packed schedule and would be given months notice of a mandatory meeting

To give Generals and Admirals stationed around the world DAYS to appear at a mandatory pep rally shows Hegseth is inept
Why? The Secretary of Defense literally took a week off, and no one, not even his number 2, even noticed.
 
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