Oral Arguments in "Opt-out" Case

[rightwinger]

excuse me but teaching about marriage is NOT a core requirement of schools. and whether Doug marries Fran or Steve is not something that should be taught.

Discussion of marriage has always been done in school

What if your child’s teacher is getting married and tells her class about her same sex spouse?

Should your child opt out?

Same sex marriage happens. No need to protect children from it.

 

[rightwinger]

Interesting.

It was and is legal to make a movie depicting the Ku Klux Klan as the true heroes of the reconstruction era.

The Birth of a Nation - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Would you object to a modern remake, geared to 5th and 6th graders, screened in middle school history class?

I saw Birth of a Nation when I was in High School.
We laughed at it

 

[rightwinger]

Schools in this case are taking the opposite view of the parents in question.

Why should they only pander to the left's views on Morality?

Hate to say it but a parents morality is often wrong

Many children are taught to hate blacks, immigrants, non-Christian’s, gays

Schools should not be expected to support the parents views

 

[80zephyr]

Hate to say it but a parents morality is often wrong

Many children are taught to hate blacks, immigrants, non-Christian’s, gays

Schools should not be expected to support the parents views

Who's views should they be expected to support?

 

[martybegan]

Hate to say it but a parents morality is often wrong

Many children are taught to hate blacks, immigrants, non-Christian’s, gays

Schools should not be expected to support the parents views

You don't get to judge that, and as long as what they are doing isn't illegal, neither does government.

Many leftist children are taught to hate Trump, MAGA and Republicans.

They shouldn't be expected to counter them either on issues like this, just because the left thinks they are "right"

 

[wamose]

I'm not sure how Steve and Mike getting married causes me to abandon my religion.




Just to note "closed minded bigot" is redundant.

That's for emphasis. But I did graduate from the school of redundancy school.

 

[dblack]

Culture war circle jerk - GO!

 

[rightwinger]

You don't get to judge that, and as long as what they are doing isn't illegal, neither does government.

Many leftist children are taught to hate Trump, MAGA and Republicans.

They shouldn't be expected to counter them either on issues like this, just because the left thinks they are "right"

I don’t have to judge
Our society has gays, blacks, immigrants, non-Christians

If a parent doesn’t like it
That is why we have Home School

 

[martybegan]

I don’t have to judge
Our society has gays, blacks, immigrants, non-Christians

If a parent doesn’t like it
That is why we have Home School

It's not about things existing.

It's about forcing celebration and acceptance as opposed to teaching tolerance.

Fine. Then deduct the schooling part of a person's taxes if they homeschool.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I saw Birth of a Nation when I was in High School.
We laughed at it

Non answer.

Hate to say it but a parents morality is often wrong

And this is the crux of the issue. "It's good for me to teach your child my way, because my way is the right way."

Many children are taught to hate blacks, immigrants, non-Christian’s, gays

Schools should not be expected to support the parents views

If a parent of a black child objects to Huckleberry Fynn as a class assignment for a major grade, because of the use of the "N-word" by the hero, how should the school respond?

 

[rightwinger]

Many leftist children are taught to hate Trump, MAGA and Republicans.

That is going to be a new battleground

As schools teach history, MAGA will be outraged at students learning about Jan 6, fake stolen election claims, felony convictions

 

[martybegan]

That is going to be a new battleground

As schools teach history, MAGA will be outraged at students learning about Jan 6, fake stolen election claims, felony convictions

Floyd Riots, Anti-fa surprising speech, the illegal immigration invasion foisted on us by Biden.

 

[rightwinger]

And this is the crux of the issue. "It's good for me to teach your child my way, because my way is the right way."

Actually, it is good to teach children a realistic view of society……not the society that parents are teaching at home

Sorry, but we have gays in our society. If parents hate them and want their children to hate them too, the school does not have to accomodate

If a school teaches that if you are gay, you are not a freak……then they are doing right

 

[Seymour Flops]

Actually, it is good to teach children a realistic view of society……not the society that parents are teaching at home

Sorry, but we have gays in our society. If parents hate them and want their children to hate them too, the school does not have to accomodate

If a school teaches that if you are gay, you are not a freak……then they are doing right

Suppose a school does NOT teach that.

Suppose a teacher made the one hundred percent true statements that the Bible forbids homosexuality, that marriage was between one man and one woman for nearly all of human history, and that the suicide rate among LGBT youth is far higher than for straight youth.

Should parents be able option out of lessons like that, or no because the school's way is the right way?

 

[rightwinger]

Suppose a teacher made the one hundred percent true statements that the Bible forbids homosexuality, that marriage was between one man and one woman for nearly all of human history,

Bible is a religious text that shouldn’t be taught in schools.

 

[martybegan]

Bible is a religious text that shouldn’t be taught in schools.

The first is about not endorsing religion, not about ignoring it exists or teaching they are wrong.

That is what the left is doing. They have replaced secularism with endorsement of lefty morality.

 

[rightwinger]

Parents are often wrong and schools need to teach what our society reflects

Parents were wrong when they protested integration of our schools.
Parents were wrong when they kicked a child out of the house for being homosexual

 

[martybegan]

Parents are often wrong and schools need to teach what our society reflects

Parents were wrong when they protested integration of our schools.
Parents were wrong when they kicked a child out of the house for being homosexual

You shouldn't be the decider of that.

Keep pushing this forced acceptance and expect a backlash.

The left can't compromise on anything, they need it all or they pout and sic government on those they disagree with.

 

[rightwinger]

You shouldn't be the decider of that.

Keep pushing this forced acceptance and expect a backlash.

The left can't compromise on anything, they need it all or they pout and sic government on those they disagree with.

Yes, we are the decider

We decided to integrate our schools
We decided to tell children that when your parents teach you that gays are freaks and need to be harassed….they are wrong
We decide to let children know that gay people can get married, that you don’t have to marry someone of your own race, that sometimes marriages end in divorce

 

[martybegan]

Yes, we are the decider

We decided to integrate our schools
We decided to tell children that when your parents teach you that gays are freaks and need to be harassed….they are wrong
We decide to let children know that gay people can get married, that you don’t have to marry someone of your own race, that sometimes marriages end in divorce

And the backlash has begun because lines can be crossed.

Stop trying to equate race with sexuality.