Opinion Article: Don’t Freak Out When We Lose the Birthright Citizenship Case

[candycorn]

Speaking of bigots, look who just showed up!

You did!

 

[martybegan]

I will also ask, what is the problem? Seems to me, the problem would be with the country the birth tourist is from.

I mean come on, you people aren't opposed to birth tourism, you are afraid of birth terrorism. And that is comically sad. WTF, someone is going to come over here from, say, China, pop out a baby that is now an American citizen, run back home, and twenty years later that Chinese raised American born citizen is going to show up, demand his citizenship, and take over the damn country for his motherland, China.

Seriously? You believe that is going to happen? No. Typically, birth tourist are wealthy individuals seeking "options". The first probably came out of the falling Soviet Union as the oligarchs sought an escape. Now, many are the children of Chinese coal barons. They are seeking options.

I hate to break it to you. But Harvard, Yale, Stanford, MIT--those are fallback schools for top students in China, or India for that matter. There, the academic landscape is challenging and, sad to say, more equitable. The top students go to the State schools on the State's dime. Wealthy students often lose out, that is when they come here.

Look, it ain't easy being a foreign student studying in the US. One thing is for damn sure, it takes money, lots of money. Those students pay full boat, live in luxury off campus apartments, drive Bentleys, and pump millions of dollars into local economies. Being a US citizen would be a huge advantage.

I mean can we get real for a moment. Trump wants to hawk US citizenship, like a damn Express Card, and sell them for millions of dollars. So who can blame a relatively well off Chinese national for dropping six figures to have a child born an American citizen. And I got to ask, who the hell is going to invest at least 18, probably 20 plus years, creating a magical Almighty sleeper cell when they can just throw down a few million and get the red carpet treatment TODAY.

Stop using AI to make your responses.

 

[martybegan]

Congress does not have the authority to define what was meant by “jurisdiction thereof” in the constitution. That’s up to the Supreme Court one day ever decide to get there. A law doesn’t cut it.

They can sure has hell try.

 

[Lesh]

Just curious

When a citizen family has a baby… what makes that baby a citizen?

 

[Marener]

Lawyer makes Kurt Schlichter the point that we will likely lose the Birthright Citizenship case on procedural grounds, and this is just starting the fight.


Don’t Freak Out When We Lose the Birthright Citizenship Case





So our first option is try to pass some laws via congress that can define "under the jurisdiction thereof" and clarify the situation, and the 2nd longer option is an amendment removing it.

So we have another example of Trump being an authoritarian, thinking he can legislate as the president.

 

[Auld Phart]

Just curious

When a citizen family has a baby… what makes that baby a citizen?

when one or both parents are citizens.

 

[martybegan]

So we have another example of Trump being an authoritarian, thinking he can legislate as the president.

No, we have him trying to fix a problem using the legal process available to him.

He wrote an EO based on legislation passed by congress, and said EO was contested and is now before the Supreme Court.

I'm on record saying it probably won't work, and we need possibly a new law passed by congress or an Amendment to fix the problem.

 

[Lesh]

when one or both parents are citizens.

Where is that stated? Just curious

 

[Marener]

No, we have him trying to fix a problem using the legal process available to him.

He wrote an EO based on legislation passed by congress, and said EO was contested and is now before the Supreme Court.

I'm on record saying it probably won't work, and we need possibly a new law passed by congress or an Amendment to fix the problem.

Your source says the legal process isn’t available to him which is why he is doing to lose the case.

 

[martybegan]

Your source says the legal process isn’t available to him which is why he is doing to lose the case.

The source said the Court will probably punt on it, and said source would rule otherwise if he was on the Court.

Do you even read things or just look at a few words and then make up shit?

 

[Auld Phart]

Where is that stated? Just curious

Become a U.S. citizen through naturalization | USAGov

Find out if you are eligible to become a U.S. citizen, how to apply with USCIS Form N-400, and how to prepare for an interview and naturalization test.

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who did your homework in high school?

 

[Robert W]

Amendment isn't going to happen. We can't even pass amendments doing sensible stuff like repealing the Second Amendment or getting rid of the electoral college.

As for laws, those laws would be immediately challenged and we'd be back where we started.

You are not to be trusted with owning a gun.

 

[Hollie]

Why not?

Let's go back to our hypothetical of Baby Chen. So, if baby Chen's parents had the means to afford a flight to the US or a US territory, they would probably have the means to give Chen a really good education to become a scientist or a doctor when he grows up.

Then we will WANT him to come back, won't we?

Let’s go back to baby Chen whose parents are CCP flag wavers. They would probably instill in baby Chen a grudge against the US and would grow up to be a subversive looking for any way to harm this country.

 

[Marener]

The source said the Court will probably punt on it, and said source would rule otherwise if he was on the Court.

Do you even read things or just look at a few words and then make up shit?

The source said SCOTUS is likely to find that he didn’t follow procedure and the fix is legislative.

He’s also incredibly whiny.

 

[Winston]

when one or both parents are citizens.

In other words, "whose your Mama".

 

[Lesh]

Become a U.S. citizen through naturalization | USAGov

Find out if you are eligible to become a U.S. citizen, how to apply with USCIS Form N-400, and how to prepare for an interview and naturalization test.

www.usa.gov

who did your homework in high school?

Well that was a fail

That’s regarding “naturalization”

 

[martybegan]

The source said SCOTUS is likely to find that he didn’t follow procedure and the fix is legislative.

He’s also incredibly whiny.

As usual you just can't deal with opinions you don't like.

He also said he thinks the court could decide for Trump if it truly wanted to.

 

[Rawley]

Lawyer makes Kurt Schlichter the point that we will likely lose the Birthright Citizenship case on procedural grounds, and this is just starting the fight.


Don’t Freak Out When We Lose the Birthright Citizenship Case





So our first option is try to pass some laws via congress that can define "under the jurisdiction thereof" and clarify the situation, and the 2nd longer option is an amendment removing it.

I think we need to burn some shit down.

 

[Marener]

As usual you just can't deal with opinions you don't like.

My opinion is that he’s whiny. Sorry you can’t deal with that.

He also said he thinks the court could decide for Trump if it truly wanted to.

Yeah, no shit. You need a lawyer to tell you SCOTUS can do whatever they want? We already knew that.

He predicted they’re not going to decide for Trump because Trump didn’t have the authority to do so. Such a massive change shouldn’t come from a single individual on a whim.

That is to say, he’s trying to be an authoritarian.

 

[Lesh]

I think we need to burn some shit down.

Yeah.. no

Let’s not burn our country down