Opinion Article: Don’t Freak Out When We Lose the Birthright Citizenship Case

[martybegan]

Again, as long as white people keep hiring undocumented aliens, they will keep coming, and some of them are going to make babies. DEAL WITH IT.

Frankly, who cares if she goes home with a US citizen baby. That might be a problem in 18 years, assuming that person really wants to exercise that right.

At the rate your beloved Billionaire Class is gutting this country, baby Chen would probably want to stay in China when he grows up.

I get it. As a nihilist and an US hater you don't care if things eventually destroy this country.

 

[citygator]

You just aren't used to people being honest about things, as your hive mind prevents it from happening.

Marty, you are rationalizing a slam dunk loss in a slam dunk case trying to act like it isnt a slam dunk… it is.

 

[JoeB131]

Why should we allow people to come here for the sole reason of birthing an American Citizen they will then take back home with them?

Why not?

Let's go back to our hypothetical of Baby Chen. So, if baby Chen's parents had the means to afford a flight to the US or a US territory, they would probably have the means to give Chen a really good education to become a scientist or a doctor when he grows up.

Then we will WANT him to come back, won't we?

 

[JoeB131]

I get it. As a nihilist and an US hater you don't care if things eventually destroy this country.

No, I just realize what has REALLY been destroying this country- the Billionaire class destroying the working class.

Not some poor immigrant trying to make a better life for himself because the country he came from had already been done a number on by the wealthy.

 

[martybegan]

Marty, you are rationalizing a slam dunk loss in a slam dunk case trying to act like it isnt a slam dunk… it is.

I am posting an opinion piece by a lawyer familiar with such cases.

 

[1srelluc]

I fully expect Roberts to screw us. Maybe he will determine it's a tax.

 

[DGS49]

FACT: As currently interpreted, it is terrible public policy.

The court should latch onto the ambiguity of the text [A pox on ANYONE who claims that birthright citizenship is "in the Constitution." It is NOT], and reinterpret it to good public policy as follows: The text should highlight the word, "…reside.." at the end and state that illegals in the country do not RESIDE in the country in any meaningful way.

But they won't do that, and the only real speculation is how they will worm their way out of doing the right thing. They will NOT say that a Constitutional Amendment is required to correct the error, but they could throw it back to Congress to clarify by law.

 

[martybegan]

No, I just realize what has REALLY been destroying this country- the Billionaire class destroying the working class.

Not some poor immigrant trying to make a better life for himself because the country he came from had already been done a number on by the wealthy.

Nope, the Neo-Marxist left is doing that.

How is importing cheap labor as the dems want to do and the RINOs want to do helping the working class?

 

[JoeB131]

Marty, you are rationalizing a slam dunk loss in a slam dunk case trying to act like it isnt a slam dunk… it is.

Well, he and Schitler probably have a point that the Conservative justices might punt by ruling on a procedural ground, which will just encourage Mango Mussolini to try other means to screw with immigrant parents.

I'm hoping they'll be brave enough to say, "Um, no, the Constitution says what it says. Period."

 

[22lcidw]

Why not?

Let's go back to our hypothetical of Baby Chen. So, if baby Chen's parents had the means to afford a flight to the US or a US territory, they would probably have the means to give Chen a really good education to become a scientist or a doctor when he grows up.

Then we will WANT him to come back, won't we?

We are losing our freedoms. Our whole government is now centered on paying people off for any reason possible as they can live any way they want. In the end we will have people ruling us who stop much of that in a poorer environment. Real inflation is higher than what is reported and has been for many many years.

 

[JoeB131]

Nope, the Neo-Marxist left is doing that.

How is importing cheap labor as the dems want to do and the RINOs want to do helping the working class?

Um because we aren't reproducing at replacement rates. Duh.

Because if you guys could get your way, we'd be like Japan, going into a Demographic Death Spiral of too many old people and not enough young people to support them.

Not surprisingly, the Billionaire Class's next target? Social Security and Medicare!!!

 

[JoeB131]

We are losing our freedoms. Our whole government is now centered on paying people off for any reason possible as they can live any way they want. In the end we will have people ruling us who stop much of that in a poorer environment. Real inflation is higher than what is reported and has been for many many years.

Let me know when your medications kick in, okay.

 

[schmidlap]

The 14th Amendment wasn't ratified for BIRTHRIGHT TOURISM, you freaking ASSHOLE.

Please cite your eloquent logic in the text of the Constitutional amendment that has been the law of the land since 1868.

I was unaware that tourism was rampant at the time.

 

[martybegan]

Um because we aren't reproducing at replacement rates. Duh.

Because if you guys could get your way, we'd be like Japan, going into a Demographic Death Spiral of too many old people and not enough young people to support them.

Not surprisingly, the Billionaire Class's next target? Social Security and Medicare!!!

And bringing in and not assimilating replacements isn't a solution.

Europe is having the same problem, and they are trying to use the "bring in the immigrants" solution as you want to, and doing it terribly.

 

[Winston]

Why should we allow people to come here for the sole reason of birthing an American Citizen they will then take back home with them?

I will also ask, what is the problem? Seems to me, the problem would be with the country the birth tourist is from.

I mean come on, you people aren't opposed to birth tourism, you are afraid of birth terrorism. And that is comically sad. WTF, someone is going to come over here from, say, China, pop out a baby that is now an American citizen, run back home, and twenty years later that Chinese raised American born citizen is going to show up, demand his citizenship, and take over the damn country for his motherland, China.

Seriously? You believe that is going to happen? No. Typically, birth tourist are wealthy individuals seeking "options". The first probably came out of the falling Soviet Union as the oligarchs sought an escape. Now, many are the children of Chinese coal barons. They are seeking options.

I hate to break it to you. But Harvard, Yale, Stanford, MIT--those are fallback schools for top students in China, or India for that matter. There, the academic landscape is challenging and, sad to say, more equitable. The top students go to the State schools on the State's dime. Wealthy students often lose out, that is when they come here.

Look, it ain't easy being a foreign student studying in the US. One thing is for damn sure, it takes money, lots of money. Those students pay full boat, live in luxury off campus apartments, drive Bentleys, and pump millions of dollars into local economies. Being a US citizen would be a huge advantage.

I mean can we get real for a moment. Trump wants to hawk US citizenship, like a damn Express Card, and sell them for millions of dollars. So who can blame a relatively well off Chinese national for dropping six figures to have a child born an American citizen. And I got to ask, who the hell is going to invest at least 18, probably 20 plus years, creating a magical Almighty sleeper cell when they can just throw down a few million and get the red carpet treatment TODAY.

 

[Auld Phart]

Why not?

Let's go back to our hypothetical of Baby Chen. So, if baby Chen's parents had the means to afford a flight to the US or a US territory, they would probably have the means to give Chen a really good education to become a scientist or a doctor when he grows up.

Then we will WANT him to come back, won't we?

they would probably have the means to give Chen a really good education to become a scientist or a doctor when he grows up.

in OUR country?

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

Lawyer makes Kurt Schlichter the point that we will likely lose the Birthright Citizenship case on procedural grounds, and this is just starting the fight.


Don’t Freak Out When We Lose the Birthright Citizenship Case





So our first option is try to pass some laws via congress that can define "under the jurisdiction thereof" and clarify the situation, and the 2nd longer option is an amendment removing it.

Congress does not have the authority to define what was meant by “jurisdiction thereof” in the constitution. That’s up to the Supreme Court one day ever decide to get there. A law doesn’t cut it.

 

[candycorn]

Yes, there is, for the reasons I stated.

You stated no reason. Just your sad bigoted opinion.

 

[Lockback]

Lawyer makes Kurt Schlichter the point that we will likely lose the Birthright Citizenship case on procedural grounds, and this is just starting the fight.


Don’t Freak Out When We Lose the Birthright Citizenship Case





So our first option is try to pass some laws via congress that can define "under the jurisdiction thereof" and clarify the situation, and the 2nd longer option is an amendment removing it.

Schlichter is a brilliant writer. He's entertaining, funny and an attorney as well.

 

[Lockback]

You stated no reason. Just your sad bigoted opinion.

Speaking of bigots, look who just showed up!
Good morning, bigot!!