One simple question for MAGA. Do you support Trump's support for Putin in the Ukraine Situation?

[Correll]

So, you actually think you should be giving a KILLER a reason to work with you? He is a killer. If he repents for killing innocent people, you don't think he should be the one to take the first step?

You want to wait for the old kgb guy to REPENT before we end this war? LOL.

Don't hold your breath. That is not a viable strategy. That is just shit talk to support your policy of endless war.

After all, if you are the one giving him an opportunity, he will know that it is important to you and that means he has an advantage. You want to give a killer an advantage over you?

That is an advantage that bad people have over good people.

Always.

Yes, Putin is willing to let his people dying in large numbers for political purposes, and even more willing to kill large numbers of ukrainians for political purposes.

That is one of HIS cards at the table. That was always the case.

Did you think that it could be otherwise?

No, the way to do it is to make it impossible for him to continue the fight. You make his life miserable so that he has NO OTHER OPTION than to come to the table.

We got him at the table, the question is how reasonable we are going to be in giving him a reason or a way out of the trap he has put himself into.

I am surprised in your answer, you being a Trump supporter, given that Trump shows himself to be a strong man that says to everyone "My way or the Highway" but with Putin, he is not doing that. He is saying to Putin "you call the shots". Where is the strong man in that?

Putin is less unreasonable than you lefties have been. There is reason to hope for a reasonable negotiated peace that will allow the Ukrainians to survive and to rebuild.

 

[Luckyone]

You want to wait for the old kgb guy to REPENT before we end this war? LOL.

Don't hold your breath. That is not a viable strategy. That is just shit talk to support your policy of endless war.




That is an advantage that bad people have over good people.

Always.

Yes, Putin is willing to let his people dying in large numbers for political purposes, and even more willing to kill large numbers of ukrainians for political purposes.

That is one of HIS cards at the table. That was always the case.

Did you think that it could be otherwise?






We got him at the table, the question is how reasonable we are going to be in giving him a reason or a way out of the trap he has put himself into.



Putin is less unreasonable than you lefties have been. There is reason to hope for a reasonable negotiated peace that will allow the Ukrainians to survive and to rebuild.

So the SAWWAS nick applies to Trump. Strong Against the Weak and Weak Against the Strong.

He is strong (call the shots) with the victim (Ukraine) but is weak against Russia (Putin calls the shots).

In my strong opinion, that is the supposedly strong man Trump kowtowing to Putin because he has the cards on the table and Zelenski does not, right?

Wow, Putin is more of a man that Trump is, do you agree?

 

[Correll]

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In my strong opinion, that is the supposedly strong man Trump kowtowing to Putin because he has the cards on the table and Zelenski does not, right?

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I stripped your post of some really stupid partisan shit. That was sad, even for you.


to answer your... point(?) I agreed that Putin had the card of being willing to see lots of people die.

That is not "kowtowing to putin".


I said nothing about what cards Trump has, to play AGAINST, Putin.

You act as though discusing one card, is the whole game...


That's just you spouting rhetorical devices, not really saying anything.


I will ask you, I agreed to your poitn about Putin's one card.

What cards are you willing to admit that Trump has over Putin?

 

[martybegan]

Why are Xcretions evidence?

I didn't link to X you dumb fuck.

 

[martybegan]

And here is a prime example of spin.

I have yet to see anyone counter my viewpoint on this beyond "we don't like it"

Ukraine supporters have the equivalent of Japanese "victory disease" from before Midway, but without any evidence of victory.

Which makes it kind of sad. At least before Midway the Kido Butai was the master of the Pacific Ocean.

 

[konradv]

I didn't link to X you dumb fuck.

One MAGA looks like the next.

 

[martybegan]

One MAGA looks like the next.

or you just rote reply with standard prog bullshit because you have the mental capacity of a herring.

 

[konradv]

or you just rote reply with standard prog bullshit because you have the mental capacity of a herring.

That’s what you do with MAGA BS.

 

[Luckyone]

I stripped your post of some really stupid partisan shit. That was sad, even for you.


to answer your... point(?) I agreed that Putin had the card of being willing to see lots of people die.

That is not "kowtowing to putin".


I said nothing about what cards Trump has, to play AGAINST, Putin.

You act as though discusing one card, is the whole game...


That's just you spouting rhetorical devices, not really saying anything.


I will ask you, I agreed to your poitn about Putin's one card.

What cards are you willing to admit that Trump has over Putin?

The card that we are strong so "don't mess with us"

He is saying that to Zelenski, isn't he?

The whole OP is about SAWWAS. He uses his power over his enemies and even his allies and tells them "My way or the highway" but with Putin, it is "yes sir, you call the shots". He does not do anything to Putin and NEVER has. For starters, he could threaten Putin with more sanctions, more arms for Ukraine and even stronger arms,

He is a pussycat with Putin. He is a fake strong man as he is only strong when he has the upper hand (his cabinet, Democrats, FBI, CIA etc)

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

They are.

Germany's Military Spending to Hit 2% of GDP by 2024: Fulfilling NATO'

In a context marked by the invasion of Ukraine by Russia, Germany is preparing to significantly increase its military spending. The goal of dedicating 2% o

www.armyrecognition.com

2%? Finally? Thank goodness.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

He does not do anything to Putin and NEVER has.

He told Europe to end their dependence on Russian energy and he
stopped construction of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline you stupid twat.

What did Biden do? Oh, yeah, he allowed construction to resume.
And then he said, well, maybe we wouldn't react to a "minor incursion".

 

[konradv]

Germany's Military Spending to Hit 2% of GDP by 2024: Fulfilling NATO'

In a context marked by the invasion of Ukraine by Russia, Germany is preparing to significantly increase its military spending. The goal of dedicating 2% o

www.armyrecognition.com

2%? Finally? Thank goodness.

They’re backing Ukraine. Why not us?

 

[Correll]

The card that we are strong so "don't mess with us"

He is saying that to Zelenski, isn't he?

The whole OP is about SAWWAS. He uses his power over his enemies and even his allies and tells them "My way or the highway" but with Putin, it is "yes sir, you call the shots". He does not do anything to Putin and NEVER has. For starters, he could threaten Putin with more sanctions, more arms for Ukraine and even stronger arms,

He is a pussycat with Putin. He is a fake strong man as he is only strong when he has the upper hand (his cabinet, Democrats, FBI, CIA etc)

See, all you are able to do, is spout nonsense.

You were happy to discuss a card that PUtin has, but you can't bring yourself to be honest about the leverage that TRUMP has.


That is you refusing to discuss the issue.

You don't want to discuss the issue, becuase you know that you cannot defend your actual position, which is that you want endless war, to bleed russia.


It is a vile and evil strategy that you want, and you know it. That is why you are talking like a child instead of a real adult person, the kind that would join on an online discussion forum to discuss issues.

 

[Correll]

They’re backing Ukraine. Why not us?

We have backed the ukraine. Now it is time to end the war and negotiate a peace.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

They’re backing Ukraine. Why not us?

They're not backing them very much with only 2% of their GDP.

 

[konradv]

They're not backing them very much with only 2% of their GDP.

What do you charge for democracy?

 

[konradv]

We have backed the ukraine. Now it is time to end the war and negotiate a peace.

Putin hasn’t left. That would seem to be a requirement for peace.

 

[martybegan]

Putin hasn’t left. That would seem to be a requirement for peace.

He's not giving back Ukraine its 2014 borders.

 

[Luckyone]

See, all you are able to do, is spout nonsense.

You were happy to discuss a card that PUtin has, but you can't bring yourself to be honest about the leverage that TRUMP has.


That is you refusing to discuss the issue.

You don't want to discuss the issue, becuase you know that you cannot defend your actual position, which is that you want endless war, to bleed russia.


It is a vile and evil strategy that you want, and you know it. That is why you are talking like a child instead of a real adult person, the kind that would join on an online discussion forum to discuss issues.

You are the one that is skirting the issue. Bottom line is that Trump is being strong with Zelenski and weak with Putin. No ifs or buts about it

 

[Correll]

Putin hasn’t left. That would seem to be a requirement for peace.

Wait. Are you pretending to not be aware of the concept of losing territory and not fighting to the last man to get it back?


That's not a serious thing you are doing there. To be that ignorant of history, you would have to have failed to graduate grade school.


How about you be honest about what you want? You want endless war to bleed russia dry, and you don't care how many ukrainians have to die in the process.