Zone1 One Perspective of the Concept of Diversity, Equity & Inclusion (DEI)

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

I have previously posted a thread in which I ask the question "Did the Tuskegee Airmen Benefit From DEI" since they accomplished all that they did before their existed any formal legislation surrounding the advent of DEI programs or policies. Most of those who actually answered were adamant that they accomplished everything they did "on their own" with at least one person acknowledging that they had to be at least twice as good (presumably 'skilled') at flying as their white counterparts. To this segment of the population DEI is a dirty word.

Even when I pointed out to them that they were only allowed to participate in the Allied war effort after the NAACP prevailed in a lawsuit compelling the government & military to include them, they still don't seem to make the connection (or simply care that it exists) between needing to file and win a lawsuit before you're allowed to participate and the 2nd letter in the acronym of 'inclusion' being actually the foundation of the initiatives. I mean after, all you can't diversify nor obtain equity until you are first included.

I'm also interested in the thoughts regarding President Andrew Jackson's statement which I highlighted in yellow at the bottom of the image below.

 

[MarcATL]

What Trump and his MAGAnuts and MAGAminions are currently doing w/their ridiculous, and not to mention racist, anti-DEI nonsense, is destroying the country.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

racial discrimination in employment and education is illegal

 

[Dekster]

I have previously posted a thread in which I ask the question "Did the Tuskegee Airmen Benefit From DEI" since they accomplished all that they did before their existed any formal legislation surrounding the advent of DEI programs or policies. Most of those who actually answered were adamant that they accomplished everything they did "on their own" with at least one person acknowledging that they had to be at least twice as good (presumably 'skilled') at flying as their white counterparts. To this segment of the population DEI is a dirty word.

Even when I pointed out to them that they were only allowed to participate in the Allied war effort after the NAACP prevailed in a lawsuit compelling the government & military to include them, they still don't seem to make the connection (or simply care that it exists) between needing to file and win a lawsuit before you're allowed to participate and the 2nd letter in the acronym of 'inclusion' being actually the foundation of the initiatives. I mean after, all you can't diversify nor obtain equity until you are first included.

I'm also interested in the thoughts regarding President Andrew Jackson's statement which I highlighted in yellow at the bottom of the image below.

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The effort is floundering because of the rush to check the D box for the sake of checking the D box

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

The effort is floundering because of the rush to check the D box for the sake of checking the D box

Actually I believe that the anti-DEI executive orders occurred because many people who are not of the majority demographic, but particularly when it comes to Black people, were beginning to make gains towards equity.

So the inclusion began with the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 which basically rendered the doctrine of 'separate but equal' null and void. So lawfully Black people could no longer be excluded though we often still were because laws don't change the hearts and minds of people who simply don't accept what the laws mandate.

As a result of INCLUSION we (society) obtained more DIVERSE student populations and workforces but EQUITY was lagging behind.

So just like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921 in which the most affluent Black community in the United States was burned to the ground by a mob of 3,000 whites, the current administration has set out on a path to burn down the progress and gains made in civil rights as they apply to all areas of life but specifically in employment and education, both of which are needed to establish a firm foundation for one's life in the modern age.

 

[Mac-7]

racial discrimination in employment and education is illegal

But employers have the right to hire who they believe are the best people

 

[Dekster]

Actually I believe that the anti-DEI executive orders occurred because many people who are not of the majority demographic, but particularly when it comes to Black people, were beginning to make gains towards equity.

So the inclusion began with the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 which basically rendered the doctrine of 'separate but equal' null and void. So lawfully Black people could no longer be excluded though we often still were because laws don't change the hearts and minds of people who simply don't accept what the laws mandate.

As a result of INCLUSION we (society) obtained more DIVERSE student populations and workforces but EQUITY was lagging behind.

So just like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921 in which the most affluent Black community in the United States was burned to the ground by a mob of 3,000 whites, the current administration has set out on a path to burn down the progress and gains made in civil rights as they apply to all areas of life but specifically in employment and education, both of which are needed to establish a firm foundation for one's life in the modern age.

You are talking about historical stuff from a long time ago addressing segregation. DEI didn't take hold as a formal more main stream policy except in the last 10-15 years and has only been around in an organized way for about 30 years. It further devolved from a general approach to a check the box public relations stunt in the last 5 years to appease groups like BLM.

 

[rightwinger]

Tuskegee Airmen was DEI
Racists complained they took jobs away from qualified white pilots

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

What Trump and his MAGAnuts and MAGAminions are currently doing w/their ridiculous, and not to mention racist, anti-DEI nonsense, is destroying the country.

Degenerate Elitist Insanity

FAGA has a secret desire to be raped by some sweaty thug. That's the psychosis behind its feralphilia.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

But employers have the right to

Discrimination Separates the Wheat from the Chaff

Rights have nothing to do with "Civil Rights."

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

You are talking about historical stuff from a long time ago addressing segregation. DEI didn't take hold as a formal more main stream policy except in the last 10-15 years and has only been around in an organized way for about 30 years. It further devolved from a general approach to a check the box public relations stunt in the last 5 years to appease groups like BLM.

Well according to Wikipedia, the concept of diversity, equity & inclusion began in 1865 and had nothing to do with the part that the more racist element of society claims discriminates against them:

Diversity, equity, and inclusion - Wikipedia

Early DEI efforts included preferential hiring to veterans of the US Civil War and their widows in 1865. In 1876, this was amended to give preference to veterans during a Reduction in Force. In 1921 and 1929, executive orders by Presidents Coolidge and Harding established ten-point preference for veterans towards exams and hiring criteria for federal employment

In 1944, the Veterans' Preference Act codified the previous executive orders, clarified criteria, and included special hiring provisions for disabled veterans. Later amendments added veterans from conflicts after World War II, special provisions for the mothers of disabled or deceased veterans, and job-specific training for veterans entering the federal or private workforce.​

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In 1936, President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed the Randolph-Sheppard Act, which mandated the federal government to give preference to purchase products made by the blind, and established the Committee on Purchases of Blind Made Products. The 1971 Javits–Wagner–O'Day Act expanded the Randolph-Sheppard act and changed the name to The Committee for Purchase from People Who Are Blind or Severely Disabled (now AbilityOne). Blind-made products are used throughout the federal government, and include brands such as Skillcraft, ARC Diversified, Austin Lighthouse, and Ability One.​

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Other DEI policies include Affirmative Action. The legal term "affirmative action" was first used in "Executive Order No. 10925", signed by President John F. Kennedy on 6 March 1961, which included a provision that government contractors "take affirmative action to ensure that applicants are employed, and employees are treated [fairly] during employment, without regard to their race, creed, color, or national origin". It was used to promote actions that achieve non-discrimination. In September 1965, President Lyndon Johnson issued Executive Order 11246 which required government employers to "hire without regard to race, religion and national origin" and "take affirmative action to ensure that applicants are employed and that employees are treated during employment, without regard to their race, color, religion, sex or national origin." The Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibited discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex or national origin. Neither executive order nor The Civil Rights Act authorized group preferences. The Senate floor manager of the bill, Senator Hubert Humphrey, declared that the bill “would prohibit preferential treatment for any particular group” adding “I will eat my hat if this leads to racial quotas.”​

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More recently, concepts have moved beyond discrimination to include diversity, equity, and inclusion as motives for preferring historically underrepresented groups. In the famous Bakke decision of 1978, Regents of the University of California v. Bakke, diversity became a constitutional law factor. The Supreme Court ruled that quotas were illegal, but it was allowable to consider race as a plus factor when trying to foster "diversity" in their classes...​

 

[Dekster]

Well according to Wikipedia, the concept of diversity, equity & inclusion began in 1865 and had nothing to do with the part that the more racist element of society claims discriminates against them:

Diversity, equity, and inclusion - Wikipedia

Well if we are delineating it to the absurd I suppose we can go back to the Book of Genesis and the Tower of Babel, but in the end, I stand by my position that DEI didn't become an institutionalized initiative of note until the 1990's.

 

[hondo 50]

I'm also interested in the thoughts regarding President Andrew Jackson's statement which I highlighted in yellow at the bottom of the image below.

Andrew Jackson died a long, long, long time ago, dude. So did Johnson.

 

[IM2]

You are talking about historical stuff from a long time ago addressing segregation. DEI didn't take hold as a formal more main stream policy except in the last 10-15 years and has only been around in an organized way for about 30 years. It further devolved from a general approach to a check the box public relations stunt in the last 5 years to appease groups like BLM.

Historical stuff from a long time ago is why there is a United States of America. So it is time that we stopped using that tactic and recognized what the past did in regard to race that created the conditions faced today by members of non white populations.

 

[IM2]

Well if we are delineating it to the absurd I suppose we can go back to the Book of Genesis and the Tower of Babel, but in the end, I stand by my position that DEI didn't become an institutionalized initiative of note until the 1990's.

This is ridiculous. Don't you whites here EVER get tired of this disingenuous tactic?

 

[IM2]

Andrew Jackson died a long, long, long time ago, dude. So did Johnson.

So did every single one of the founding fathers. Do you guys ever get tired of these purposeful diversions? Are you not adult enough to discuss the topic? Are you scared to be shown that everything you believe is a lie?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I oppose equity. It is simply a term used to mean taking away opportunity from one person to give to another person who has squandered theirs.

 

[Delldude]

As a result of INCLUSION we (society) obtained more DIVERSE student populations and workforces but EQUITY was lagging behind.

This is all recycled. Affirmative action was implemented a long time ago with the same legal issues.

 

[IM2]

This is all recycled. Affirmative action was implemented a long time ago with the same legal issues.

There were no legal issues. There was the standard white amnesia and backlash.

 

[Delldude]

There were no legal issues. There was the standard white amnesia and backlash.

Try the Bakke Decision on for size.