One of the Lies Behind fdr's Concentration Camps

[Unkotare]

Some people still parrot the "for national security!" lie behind one of the several fallacious excuses for the CONCENTRATION CAMPS that vile scumbag fdr ran IN THE UNITED STATES, violating the most basic rights of US CITIZENS during WWII.

The criminal roosevelt administration knew damn well the population targeted for fdr's CONCENTRATION CAMPS did NOT represent a threat to the nation.

Ringle Report on Japanese Internment


"(h) That, in short, the entire "Japanese Problem" has been magnified out of its true proportion, largely because of the physical characteristics of the people; that it is no more serious that the problems of the German, Italian, and Communistic portions of the United States population, and, finally that it should be handled on the basis of the individual, regardless of citizenship, and not on a racial basis."


The only other US President to operate CONCENTRATION CAMPS in the US was also a democrat, but nowhere near the scale of the criminal fdr's unconstitutional outrage. Leaving aside his economic irresponsibility; personal immorality, dishonesty, and racism, there is nothing the mindless roosevelt nuthuggers can point to that could possibly mitigate a fundamentally unAmerican crime like that committed by the worst villain to ever sully our White House.

 

[JoeB131]

SO what?

Here's the thing. The Germans and Italians, besides being much larger ethnic groups, weren't the ones who bombed Pearl Harbor.

The very fact Trump can propel himself to the top of the GOP heap playing on fears of Mexicans and Muslims today gives you an idea of what FDR was dealing with in 1942. People were damned scared. the looked out at that big Pacific Ocean and for all they knew, a Japanese Battleship could show up off the coast and start shelling them.

We didn't slaughter the Japanese. We relocated them out of a possible war zone, and most of them were released within a year.

Y'all need to quit whining about it. Other ethnicities have much more valid complaints.

 

[rightwinger]

SO what?

Here's the thing. The Germans and Italians, besides being much larger ethnic groups, weren't the ones who bombed Pearl Harbor.

The very fact Trump can propel himself to the top of the GOP heap playing on fears of Mexicans and Muslims today gives you an idea of what FDR was dealing with in 1942. People were damned scared. the looked out at that big Pacific Ocean and for all they knew, a Japanese Battleship could show up off the coast and start shelling them.

We didn't slaughter the Japanese. We relocated them out of a possible war zone, and most of them were released within a year.

Y'all need to quit whining about it. Other ethnicities have much more valid complaints.

This was racist Jim Crow America
Germans and Italians looked like regular Americans should

Japanese did not....guess who got sent away?

In 1942 America, very few citizens complained, Congress supported it and the Supreme Court didn't care

 

[Unkotare]

Oh well, everything's ok then. You are not an American.

 

[rightwinger]

In 1942, the US was not a bed of racial harmony and understanding

Blacks were officially designated second class citizens, Mexicans were outcasts, Japanese and Chinese were tolerated as long as they kept to themselves and knew their place

When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor ....guess who was the most hated ethnic group?

Should FDR have stood up for their Constitutional rights as citizens?
In retrospect, 75 years later, he should have

Politically and socially....he had little choice

 

[TNHarley]

Well the SC said it was OK so who gives a shit, right?
Fuckin statists

 

[TNHarley]

In 1942, the US was not a bed of racial harmony and understanding

Blacks were officially designated second class citizens, Mexicans were outcasts, Japanese and Chinese were tolerated as long as they kept to themselves and knew their place

When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor ....guess who was the most hated ethnic group?

Should FDR have stood up for their Constitutional rights as citizens?
In retrospect, 75 years later, he should have

Politically and socially....he had little choice

Yea, the government was a crackpot of racism and shit. And dumbfucks like you want to give them MORE power.
You are the definition of STUPID

 

[TNHarley]

Lefties ignore history worse than they do biology.

 

[rightwinger]

In 1942, the US was not a bed of racial harmony and understanding

Blacks were officially designated second class citizens, Mexicans were outcasts, Japanese and Chinese were tolerated as long as they kept to themselves and knew their place

When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor ....guess who was the most hated ethnic group?

Should FDR have stood up for their Constitutional rights as citizens?
In retrospect, 75 years later, he should have

Politically and socially....he had little choice

Yea, the government was a crackpot of racism and shit. And dumbfucks like you want to give them MORE power.
You are the definition of STUPID

The government reflected the society that elected them

That society was not too tolerant of the Japanese after Pearl Harbor

 

[TNHarley]

In 1942, the US was not a bed of racial harmony and understanding

Blacks were officially designated second class citizens, Mexicans were outcasts, Japanese and Chinese were tolerated as long as they kept to themselves and knew their place

When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor ....guess who was the most hated ethnic group?

Should FDR have stood up for their Constitutional rights as citizens?
In retrospect, 75 years later, he should have

Politically and socially....he had little choice

Yea, the government was a crackpot of racism and shit. And dumbfucks like you want to give them MORE power.
You are the definition of STUPID

The government reflected the society that elected them

That society was not too tolerant of the Japanese after Pearl Harbor

You are the definition of STUPID

 

[Unkotare]

...

Politically and socially....he had little choice

That is complete and utter apologist bullshit.

 

[Muhammed]

SO what?

Here's the thing. The Germans and Italians, besides being much larger ethnic groups, weren't the ones who bombed Pearl Harbor.

The very fact Trump can propel himself to the top of the GOP heap playing on fears of Mexicans and Muslims today gives you an idea of what FDR was dealing with in 1942. People were damned scared. the looked out at that big Pacific Ocean and for all they knew, a Japanese Battleship could show up off the coast and start shelling them.

We didn't slaughter the Japanese. We relocated them out of a possible war zone, and most of them were released within a year.

Y'all need to quit whining about it. Other ethnicities have much more valid complaints.

This was racist Jim Crow America
Germans and Italians looked like regular Americans should

Japanese did not....guess who got sent away?

In 1942 America, very few citizens complained, Congress supported it and the Supreme Court didn't care

Your ignorance of history is astounding.

 

[Penelope]

We can't blame FDR, it was the military generals who encouraged him to lock up the Japanese,
esp. Karl Robin Bendetsen.

 

[Unkotare]

We can't blame FDR, it was the military generals who encouraged him to lock up the Japanese,
esp. Karl Robin Bendetsen.

Bullshit. He had the information.

 

[Penelope]

We can't blame FDR, it was the military generals who encouraged him to lock up the Japanese,
esp. Karl Robin Bendetsen.

Bullshit. He had the information.

I know but he went with the head military people (some of who were racist and filled with hatred) and well the non Japanese public fear of Japanese people, which was as we now know was unwarranted even at the time.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Oh well, everything's ok then. You are not an American.

You are engaged in the Fallacy of Present-ism.

I had to tell one of the commenters the same thing on his remarks in the "Jackie Robinson" documentary by Burns.

 

[Weatherman2020]

SO what?

Here's the thing. The Germans and Italians, besides being much larger ethnic groups, weren't the ones who bombed Pearl Harbor.

The very fact Trump can propel himself to the top of the GOP heap playing on fears of Mexicans and Muslims today gives you an idea of what FDR was dealing with in 1942. People were damned scared. the looked out at that big Pacific Ocean and for all they knew, a Japanese Battleship could show up off the coast and start shelling them.

We didn't slaughter the Japanese. We relocated them out of a possible war zone, and most of them were released within a year.

Y'all need to quit whining about it. Other ethnicities have much more valid complaints.

What's your favorite thing about FDR?

Putting Americans with slanted eyes in concentration camps?
Inviting the 1936 Olympics team to the White House while telling Jessie Owens to stay home because he is black?
Gutting the military so much 3 nations declared war on us?
Sending Jews who fled Hitler back to Europe?
Appointing a KKK member to the Supreme Court?

 

[Syriusly]

Some people still parrot the "for national security!" lie behind one of the several fallacious excuses for the CONCENTRATION CAMPS that vile scumbag fdr ran IN THE UNITED STATES, violating the most basic rights of US CITIZENS during WWII.

The criminal roosevelt administration knew damn well the population targeted for fdr's CONCENTRATION CAMPS did NOT represent a threat to the nation.

Ringle Report on Japanese Internment


"(h) That, in short, the entire "Japanese Problem" has been magnified out of its true proportion, largely because of the physical characteristics of the people; that it is no more serious that the problems of the German, Italian, and Communistic portions of the United States population, and, finally that it should be handled on the basis of the individual, regardless of citizenship, and not on a racial basis."


The only other US President to operate CONCENTRATION CAMPS in the US was also a democrat, but nowhere near the scale of the criminal fdr's unconstitutional outrage. Leaving aside his economic irresponsibility; personal immorality, dishonesty, and racism, there is nothing the mindless roosevelt nuthuggers can point to that could possibly mitigate a fundamentally unAmerican crime like that committed by the worst villain to ever sully our White House.

'the worst villain to ever sully our White House'

I have no problem with attacking FDR for the internment camps- they were everything you said- and more. And unfortunately FDR's policy reflected the mood of the American people. I have yet to meet anyone who lived in that era who disagreed with the internment camps. In hindsight they were vile- at the time- most Americans thought they were a great idea- just like at one time Americans approved of slavery.

And if that were the whole of what FDR did then you would be correct. But FDR is remembered as one of our greatest Presidents for what he accomplished- not for his mistakes.

• He led the United States to victory in World War 2- and all that entailed.
  
• He led the United States out of the Depression- and likely prevented violent revolts in the process- when he was elected the United States was already experiencing armed insurrections because of the Depression.
• He established Social Security, Unemployment benefits, and the GI Bill.
  
• He stabilized our banking system- and protected Americans- with the bank depositors insurance.

I don't know of a single President I can't find at least one policy to attack- and at least one to applaud.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

We didn't slaughter the Japanese. We relocated them out of a possible war zone, and most of them were released within a year.

Y'all need to quit whining about it. Other ethnicities have much more valid complaints.

Yeah, they were ripped from their homes at gun point, deprived their civil rights, held prisoner in sub par conditions.

What a bunch of fucking whiners.

Can we do that to you and your family for no other reason than what you look like?

 

[Syriusly]

We can't blame FDR, it was the military generals who encouraged him to lock up the Japanese,
esp. Karl Robin Bendetsen.

Certainly we can blame FDR for it.

Ultimately it was his decision.

The OP is absolutely correct that the camps were gross violations of Americans rights- and totally unjustified- even if they reflected popular sentiment. FDR didn't need to bow to pressure from the West Coast authorities.