One big thing that confuses about Islam and perhaps someone can explain it.

[surada]

Who is also an Islamic prophet.

Yep.. They believe Jesus was the purest of the prophets born of a virgin from the mind of God.

 

[Turtlesoup]

Muslims also become angry if you show disrespect for Jesus.

Yea...right...

that is why muslims kill christians by the churchfuls...

 

[surada]

Yea...right...

that is why muslims kill christians by the churchfuls...

When and where did this happen.

The burning of the Christians of Najran was not the work of Muslims.

 

[irosie91]

Sounds like your environment is pretty low class and violent for most people including Muslims.

Seems like you live in a sewer based on the idiocy of your responses.
Most of the muslims I have known have been physicians and
surgeons-----lots of low class people in hospitals of many
different ethnicities ----I dealt with them too-----but not as colleagues.
Good of you to reveal your moronic, sloppy level of discourse.

 

[surada]

Seems like you live in a sewer based on the idiocy of your responses.
Most of the muslims I have known have been physicians and
surgeons-----lots of low class people in hospitals of many
different ethnicities ----I dealt with them too-----but not as colleagues.
Good of you to reveal your moronic, sloppy level of discourse.

So these Muslim doctors were attacking Christian icons?

You wrote this, didn't you?

"OH? what sort of disrespect "angers" them? Muslims like
to knock plaster statues of Mary apart in my town. That
seems like "disrespect" to me. As to the putative teachings
of Jesus-----like the "turn the cheek thing" I have heard muslims
mock that one broadly, several times. Of course the NT is a
big time filthy lie------I heard that one in a mosque (the muslims
nodded and smiled)"

 

[irosie91]

So these Muslim doctors were attacking Christian icons?

So these Muslim doctors were attacking Christian icons?

Not only is your discourse sloppy, your level of reading
comprehension is deficient. I will help you to understand.
There is a significant population of muslims in my town---and
also a significant population of catholics. Some catholics---
especially those of Italian and Polish background, like to have
ICONS in and around their houses and in their cemeteries.
The icons are the targets of vandalism by muslims----they seem to
like to go for Mary's face.

 

[surada]

Not only is your discourse sloppy, your level of reading
comprehension is deficient. I will help you to understand.
There is a significant population of muslims in my town---and
also a significant population of catholics. Some catholics---
especially those of Italian and Polish background, like to have
ICONS in and around their houses and in their cemeteries.
The icons are the targets of vandalism by muslims----they seem to
like to go for Mary's face.

And your information comes from your Muslim doctor friends.

 

[Turtlesoup]

When and where did this happen.

The burning of the Christians of Najran was not the work of Muslims.

Syria, Ethopia, SWEDEN-----and so many other places ----allow them here enough numbers and they will start doing here like they do the rape gangs of Europe now.

 

[irosie91]

When and where did this happen.

The burning of the Christians of Najran was not the work of Muslims.

Burning of the christians of Naijran is an unconfirmed rumor
that grew out of violent the conflict between Ethiopia and Yemen
The persistent and repetitive attacks on christians, including
upon those in churches and the murder by starvation siege
circa 1970 of something like a million christian children in Nigeria
by muslims is FACT. It is also fact that the christians of arabia ----
to wit Yemen and Saudi arabia have been subjected to comprehensive
genocide by islamic regimes----

And your information comes from your Muslim doctor friends.

there is a proverb which may be from Hillel---but I am not sure----
roughly translated it is 'Who is wise? He who learns from all the world.'
Learning can be obtained by being informed and observing and listening.
Some people depend on lesser sources----like WIKKI

 

[irosie91]

for the record----the rumor of conflict leading to gross atrocities against
christians by jews in arabia putatively took place in the sixth century
AD-----to wit--BEFORE islam happened. The story is a retrospective,
to wit---likely historic revisionism.

 

[Viktor]

One thing of many things that confuse me in regards to Islam among their followers. Muhammad by their own admission isn't God. The term blasphemy is a term reserved only for God. So, why are they claiming it is blasphemy if anyone even depicts Muhammad in a picture of any kind but not any of their other Muslim warlords?

Meaning people can show pictures, photographs or paintings of the Sultans or Ayatollah etc and no problem.

You can even criticize them, but if anyone paints a painting or drawing or speaks out against Muhammad it is considered blasphemy.

That makes little sense and that reaction of exalting Muhammad as God (which they all say he wasn't) is a blasphemy unto itself.

How am I wrong?

Islam has no centralized control of belief like Catholicism does. There is no Pope and no Vatican. Islam has many different denominations and cults and all of them have their own version of Islam. The Turks believe different things than the Iranians and both differ from the Saudis. They all believe Mohammed was a prophet and Allah is supreme but that's where the similarities end. Each sect has Mullahs who issue different versions of Islamic law. No other sect is as brutal and bloodthirsty as the Taliban. The Muslims in Jordan are, unlike the Taliban, very tolerant. They are a different tribe and very modern. Any friggin Mullah can issue a death sentence on anybody.

 

[surada]

Mohammad has been granted all the powers of deity while, at the same time, casually disavowing his deity.

Convenient.

Mohammad is Islam.

Muhaammed was the messenger of a third revelation for the people of the Arabian peninsula to return to the God of Abraham.

He didn't perform miracles. Where did you get the idea he was a diety?

 

[surada]

Who is also an Islamic prophet.

Yep.. Jesus, in their view, is the purest of the prophets but not the son of God.

 

[surada]

for the record----the rumor of conflict leading to gross atrocities against
christians by jews in arabia putatively took place in the sixth century
AD-----to wit--BEFORE islam happened. The story is a retrospective,
to wit---likely historic revisionism.

You mean the burnings of the Christians of Najran? That was before Muhammed's time.

There were Nestorian Christians on the peninsula .. for certain in Tarut Island and Najran. When Muhammed came to power he protected them and waived jizya.

 

[irosie91]

You mean the burnings of the Christians of Najran? That was before Muhammed's time.

There were Nestorian Christians on the peninsula .. for certain in Tarut Island and Najran. When Muhammed came to power he protected them and waived jizya.

-----according to arab nargilla myth

 

[surada]

-----according to arab nargilla myth

The burning is not a myth.

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Christian community of Najran

The existence of a Christian community of Najran is attested by several historical sources of the Arabic peninsula, where it recorded as having been created in the 5th century CE or perhaps a century earlier. According to the Arab Muslim historian, Ibn Ishaq, Najran was the first place where...

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Invasion by Dhu Nuwas

Book of HimyaritesLetter of Simeon of Beth ArshamMartyrs of NajranChurch in NajranNajran Pact Resistance to The Rise of Islam

Prior to the rise of Christianity, the people of Najran were polytheistsand worshipped a tall date-palm tree, for which also they had an annual festival when they hung upon it the finest garments they could find, and female ornaments. Then they would come and dance around it the whole day.

During this period, they had a Chief named Abdullah ibn ath-Thamir who became the first Najranite to embrace Christianity. A pious Christian builder and brick-layer named Phemion settled among them and led them to his religion and it…

 

[surada]

The existence of a Christian community in the city of Najran is attested by several historical sources of the Arabian peninsula, where it recorded as having been created in the 5th century CE or perhaps a century earlier.

According to the Arab Muslim historian Ibn Ishaq, Najran was the first place where Christianity took root in South Arabia.
In the early 6th century, the Christians are said to have been persecuted by a Himyarite king named Dhu N…


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all the remaining free-born Christian women of Najran were brought before the tyrant and commanded to reject Christ or die. They withstood their persecution with boldness refusing to reject their beliefs.

Soon after, the Ethiopian King Elesbaan, whom we also commemorate today, attacked and liberated the city of Najran from this tyrant and raised

 

[irosie91]

And your information comes from your Muslim doctor friends.

My information comes FIRST HAND OBSERVATION---and my own senses----as MY EARS---some of it directly from my muslim friends (and colleagues)

 

[irosie91]

Oh gee----there are christians and their churches and
cemetaries and schools in Saudi arabia dating back
MORE THAN 1500 years-----according to suradie--all
METICULOUSLY PROTECTED by muslims

 

[irosie91]

Yep.. Jesus, in their view, is the purest of the prophets but not the son of God.

the "pure" part relates to the virginity of the mother
of Jesus-----Muslims are VERY INTO VIRGINITY----
a very commonly used surgical procedure in the
world of islam (after FMG) is HYMEN RESTORATION