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The Death Book for Veterans
Ex-soldiers don't need to be told they're a burden to society.
By JIM TOWEY
If President Obama wants to better understand why America's discomfort with end-of-life discussions threatens to derail his health-care reform, he might begin with his own Department of Veterans Affairs (VA). He will quickly discover how government bureaucrats are greasing the slippery slope that can start with cost containment but quickly become a systematic denial of care.
Last year, bureaucrats at the VA's National Center for Ethics in Health Care advocated a 52-page end-of-life planning document, "Your Life, Your Choices." It was first published in 1997 and later promoted as the VA's preferred living will throughout its vast network of hospitals and nursing homes. After the Bush White House took a look at how this document was treating complex health and moral issues, the VA suspended its use. Unfortunately, under President Obama, the VA has now resuscitated "Your Life, Your Choices."
Who is the primary author of this workbook? Dr. Robert Pearlman, chief of ethics evaluation for the center, a man who in 1996 advocated for physician-assisted suicide in Vacco v. Quill before the U.S. Supreme Court and is known for his support of health-care rationing.
"Your Life, Your Choices" presents end-of-life choices in a way aimed at steering users toward predetermined conclusions, much like a political "push poll." For example, a worksheet on page 21 lists various scenarios and asks users to then decide whether their own life would be "not worth living."
The circumstances listed include ones common among the elderly and disabled: living in a nursing home, being in a wheelchair and not being able to "shake the blues." There is a section which provocatively asks, "Have you ever heard anyone say, 'If I'm a vegetable, pull the plug'?" There also are guilt-inducing scenarios such as "I can no longer contribute to my family's well being," "I am a severe financial burden on my family" and that the vet's situation "causes severe emotional burden for my family."
When the government can steer vulnerable individuals to conclude for themselves that life is not worth living, who needs a death panel?
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Facts elude the right.
There are no fucking death panels you rock brains.
Facts elude the right.
There are no fucking death panels you rock brains.
Death panels? Seems the left is more wrapped up with it than the right. Palin siad it and the left has not let go of it. If they did, it woulds have died, Instead, they took out anything that implies it...so yes...THANK YOU LEFT for not letting it go.
Grandma? No one is going to pull the plug. Obama is correct. The question is, will it be deemed more appropriate to simply not hook her up to the machine?
And what about emergency situations...such as a financial collapse? Government bankrupcy? No..not far fetched...look at California....look at the deficit we have thanks to the last two admins...look at our national debt...
So pleaase tell me.....what will happen IF there is the need for rationing?
Total bullshit.
Doctors have been doing end of life counselling for decades. The only difference is now Medicare doctors would be paid to perform this service.
A person should have available to him/her what choices they have from staying hooked up forever to saying I want to chose if I prefer to die in my own style.
This is such a crock of partisan shit to play the death panels and euthansia over logical argument of how we can create the best healthcare system for our citizens.
We don't have it now even for those with insurance.
Once more the right wing extremists are running/ruining their party.
If the care in Canada is so bad, why is it that 87% of those surveyed wanted to keep it the way it is.
Facts elude the right.
There are no fucking death panels you rock brains.
Death panels? Seems the left is more wrapped up with it than the right. Palin siad it and the left has not let go of it. If they did, it woulds have died, Instead, they took out anything that implies it...so yes...THANK YOU LEFT for not letting it go.
Grandma? No one is going to pull the plug. Obama is correct. The question is, will it be deemed more appropriate to simply not hook her up to the machine?
And what about emergency situations...such as a financial collapse? Government bankrupcy? No..not far fetched...look at California....look at the deficit we have thanks to the last two admins...look at our national debt...
So pleaase tell me.....what will happen IF there is the need for rationing?
What the fuck do you think happens right now when insurance cos call things experimental and dont cover them for people who have paid the cos thousands for decades?
People are dumped from the contracts for getting sick so the insure cos can have 400% profit.
Now go look at the other countries who have the best healthcare in the world ......what kind do they have?
The only difference is now Medicare doctors would be paid to perform this service.
Death panels, my ass.
Why do Republicans hate the elderly? I've never actually understood this.
I love ravi's sarcastic posts 
Facts elude the right.
There are no fucking death panels you rock brains.
Why do you persist in believing lies that have been soundly disprove?
Total bullshit.
Doctors have been doing end of life counselling for decades. The only difference is now Medicare doctors would be paid to perform this service.
Can you show evidence that doctors have been doing it for decades free of charge?
A person should have available to him/her what choices they have from staying hooked up forever to saying I want to chose if I prefer to die in my own style.
How about a doctor doing that? I mean didn't you just say they've been doing it for decades?
Do you deny that rationing healthcare is part of their proposal?
The majority of Americans are happy with their health care coverage.
Once more the right wing extremists are running/ruining their party.
I guess that why Obama's poll numbers are slipping... fast!
If the care in Canada is so bad, why is it that 87% of those surveyed wanted to keep it the way it is.
Do you have a source for the statistics you just mentioned?
Why does the left hate Americans, especially the old, young, and handicapped? Why do they lie, the way most of us breathe?
Total bullshit.
Doctors have been doing end of life counselling for decades. The only difference is now Medicare doctors would be paid to perform this service.
Can you show evidence that doctors have been doing it for decades free of charge?
How about a doctor doing that? I mean didn't you just say they've been doing it for decades?
Do you deny that rationing healthcare is part of their proposal?
The majority of Americans are happy with their health care coverage.
I guess that why Obama's poll numbers are slipping... fast!
If the care in Canada is so bad, why is it that 87% of those surveyed wanted to keep it the way it is.
Do you have a source for the statistics you just mentioned?
Jeez....dont start throwing basic logic and truth into the mix. It will confuse them.
Stick to the talking points pal...it is easier for them top comprehend.
Death panels? Seems the left is more wrapped up with it than the right. Palin siad it and the left has not let go of it. If they did, it woulds have died, Instead, they took out anything that implies it...so yes...THANK YOU LEFT for not letting it go.
Grandma? No one is going to pull the plug. Obama is correct. The question is, will it be deemed more appropriate to simply not hook her up to the machine?
And what about emergency situations...such as a financial collapse? Government bankrupcy? No..not far fetched...look at California....look at the deficit we have thanks to the last two admins...look at our national debt...
So pleaase tell me.....what will happen IF there is the need for rationing?
What the fuck do you think happens right now when insurance cos call things experimental and dont cover them for people who have paid the cos thousands for decades?
People are dumped from the contracts for getting sick so the insure cos can have 400% profit.
Now go look at the other countries who have the best healthcare in the world ......what kind do they have?
Do not get me wrong. We DO need reform. That is not the issue.
We have the BEST healthcare in the world but yes, by far not the best system.
So why not simply open state lines to allow pure competition that ALWAYS results in lower prices....set regulations that forbid the dropping of anyone based on health issues that arise..and eliminate the "pre-exisitng condition" crap....and as for those that lose their jobs, COBRA is working fine....but the cost will be lower once the overall industry lowers the prices of premiums when puyre competiton comes into play.
Why a "public option"? What will it do but cost Americans over a trillion dollars?
