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It doesn't matter what the fuck they believed. They had 2 months to examine their beliefs. That is what the law allowed. Time was up and it was time for them to accept Trump lied to them.
Except five states with fake Republican electors tried certify their states elections with forged documents declaring Trump the winner when he wasn't. We will never trust states again.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTpIRevl_Fc
I'm not talking about hanging in effigy, you pathological liar. I'm talking about the people shouting, "hang Mike Pence!"
No, storming the Capitol over Trump's Big Lie is anarchy.
Yes. Those duties don't include unilaterally rejecting electors. That is a role which can be performed by Congress, not the VP.
You can't just un-patriotically scream fraud without evidence to submit to a court of law as prescribed by the election laws of your state.
The ex president is guilty of election tampering and should face felony charges.
It's up to the states to certify the validity of their elections. There was not alternative government in any state that supplied an alternate slate of electors like happened in 1876 that could have been cause for any valid objection.
In 1876, two states had separate competing governments that send in two slates each. Those forgery were just that, forgeries not authorized by any state government. Produced by the Fascist Neo-Republicans, hopefully that will get the fascist who produced and signed those documents felony charges so they can never hold office in our great Republic again.
Obviously the OP is a liberal who thinks the fraudulent votes should count.
End of thread.
wisconsinexaminer.com
So then YES, the VP can prevent certification all on his own.
Wrong.
There are hundreds of aways elections can be defrauded, and it is up to Congress to investigate until the voters are satisfied.
You're lying again, Pinocchio.Wrong.
The law does not demand anything as far as time goes.
There is a normal time process, but that was before they started all this electronic voting machine nonsense.
You take the time it requires.
I don't believe there was large scale voting fraud, but there is even a remote possibility, you take the time you need.
Only one attempting a coverup would not.
The media doesn't have any compelling interest in teaching actual history. I first learned about it in an upper level History of the Civil War class in college decades ago.How come I never heard about this in the media?
If there were fake results forgeries, isn't that a reason to investigate even MORE before certification?
Again, I'm still not talking about hanging him in effigy. They were threatening the life of the VP. You know, the guy you idiotically claim he should have spoken to that violent mob of domestic terrorists.The mock gallows could not have hung anyone.
When you hang someone in effigy, you get the crowd to shout to "hang" them.
You obviously have not read much history.
This is actually the biggest story since the election. The goons have been crying "stop the steal", when now it is documented that they were the one's trying to steal the election, in a major, major way. These people must be prosecuted before the next election.In 1876, two states had separate competing governments that send in two slates each. Those forgery were just that, forgeries not authorized by any state government. Produced by the Fascist Neo-Republicans, hopefully that will get the fascist who produced and signed those documents felony charges so they can never hold office in our great Republic again.
Obviously this poster is an idiot who thinks that Donald Trump didn't lose the election. There were "fraudulent votes" submitted from the Republican Party in five states that Joe Biden was certified to have won. All of these forged electoral votes were for Donald Trump.
YOU are the guy who is asking that the "fraudulent votes should count".
The voter fraud you didn’t hear about: Wisconsin’s Electoral College imposters - Wisconsin Examiner
Law Forward calls for an investigation into the 10 people who met and certified the Wisconsin 2020 election for defeated Donald Trump.
Where in the Constitution does it bestow this awesome power on the President of the Senate?
How about in the codified law. Anything in there that gives the VP, (Perhaps the losing candidate like in the case of Al Gore) that awesome power to prevent certification all on his own?
3 U.S. Code § 15 - Counting electoral votes in Congress
www.law.cornell.edu
"Upon such reading of any such certificate or paper, the President of the Senate shall call for objections, if any."
Congress shall be in session on the sixth day of January succeeding every meeting of the electors. The Senate and House of Representatives shall meet in the Hall of the House of Representatives at the hour of 1 o’clock in the afternoon on that day, and the President of the Senate shall be their presiding officer. Two tellers shall be previously appointed on the part of the Senate and two on the part of the House of Representatives, to whom shall be handed, as they are opened by the President of the Senate, all the certificates and papers purporting to be certificates of the electoral votes, which certificates and papers shall be opened, presented, and acted upon in the alphabetical order of the States, beginning with the letter A; and said tellers, having then read the same in the presence and hearing of the two Houses, shall make a list of the votes as they shall appear from the said certificates; and the votes having been ascertained and counted according to the rules in this subchapter provided, the result of the same shall be delivered to the President of the Senate, who shall thereupon announce the state of the vote, which announcement shall be deemed a sufficient declaration of the persons, if any, elected President and Vice President of the United States, and, together with a list of the votes, be entered on the Journals of the two Houses. Upon such reading of any such certificate or paper, the President of the Senate shall call for objections, if any. Every objection shall be made in writing, and shall state clearly and concisely, and without argument, the ground thereof, and shall be signed by at least one Senator and one Member of the House of Representatives before the same shall be received. When all objections so made to any vote or paper from a State shall have been received and read, the Senate shall thereupon withdraw, and such objections shall be submitted to the Senate for its decision; and the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, in like manner, submit such objections to the House of Representatives for its decision; and no electoral vote or votes from any State which shall have been regularly given by electors whose appointment has been lawfully certified to according to section 6 of this title from which but one return has been received shall be rejected, but the two Houses concurrently may reject the vote or votes when they agree that such vote or votes have not been so regularly given by electors whose appointment has been so certified. If more than one return or paper purporting to be a return from a State shall have been received by the President of the Senate, those votes, and those only, shall be counted which shall have been regularly given by the electors who are shown by the determination mentioned in section 5 of this title to have been appointed, if the determination in said section provided for shall have been made, or by such successors or substitutes, in case of a vacancy in the board of electors so ascertained, as have been appointed to fill such vacancy in the mode provided by the laws of the State; but in case there shall arise the question which of two or more of such State authorities determining what electors have been appointed, as mentioned in section 5 of this title, is the lawful tribunal of such State, the votes regularly given of those electors, and those only, of such State shall be counted whose title as electors the two Houses, acting separately, shall concurrently decide is supported by the decision of such State so authorized by its law; and in such case of more than one return or paper purporting to be a return from a State, if there shall have been no such determination of the question in the State aforesaid, then those votes, and those only, shall be counted which the two Houses shall concurrently decide were cast by lawful electors appointed in accordance with the laws of the State, unless the two Houses, acting separately, shall concurrently decide such votes not to be the lawful votes of the legally appointed electors of such State. But if the two Houses shall disagree in respect of the counting of such votes, then, and in that case, the votes of the electors whose appointment shall have been certified by the executive of the State, under the seal thereof, shall be counted. When the two Houses have voted, they shall immediately again meet, and the presiding officer shall then announce the decision of the questions submitted. No votes or papers from any other State shall be acted upon until the objections previously made to the votes or papers from any State shall have been finally disposed of.
You're lying again, Pinocchio. You clearly don't know what the word, "anarchy," means. Anarchy is the antithesis of a democratic republic. Like you say, it's individual rights and freedoms. Democracy is about the rights and freedoms for all, not just an individual.Anarchy is a cornerstone of a democratic republic.
It is called individual rights and freedoms.
Only dictators are afraid of a little, "anarchy".
I think probably it was a little obstruction of justice by the Neo-Fascist Republicans.Why did we NOT hear about this and why was there not a bigger investigation over it?
Wrong A$$hat. It is up to Congress to investigate evidence of fraud or wrongdoing. Emphasis on the word "evidence". There is no evidence of fraud or wrong doing, of the type that Donald Trump claims. Not one shred. There is no requirement that Congress investigate things Republicans have made up, and that never happened, although 25 investigations of the Clintons might lead you to believe otherwise.
Trump voters will NEVER be satisfied. There are none so blind as those who will not see.
