OK, I admit this proves Biden has Dementia

SO.... to recap.
Both leftist in this thread including the OP... have only stated rhetoric and CNN talking points.
Not one single specific.
Not one single statistic.
Not one single fact.
Just "Orange Man Bad".
And that is all they got. They are used to being able to sit in the choir room and pat each other on the back for maintaining the narrative... Orange Man Bad. And that is all they need.
Like I have said all the past couple of years.... facts only matter when they support the narrative.
A video is worth a thousand words when it comes from Mr Wizard.

More CNN talking blah blah.... nothing specific or concrete.... just Orange Man Bad

That blah blah is coming from the president of the United States. According to Professor Trump this virus is really smart, disinfectants in the body can be good and so can bright light.

It wasn't bright light, it was UV. And of course UV kills virus and bacteria very effectively.
He was making a statement that I wish you could somehow put sunlight through the body.
Trump speaks off the cuff and jaw jacks all the time. Most people can tell what is actual, and what is joking. He has that dry humor style where he looks like he is serious but isn't.
But nevermind...I just wasted 30 seconds typing this.

Generally, a president should not speak off the cuff unless he has an excellent command of the language which Trump obviously does not. Otherwise, you get a Donald Trump who in searching for the words to adequately explain his idea uses the wrong words, misstates facts, says things that aren't true and someone like you has to explain what he really meant. Imagine how his disinfectant and bright lights in the body got interpreted in other countries. In Japan, it was, "US president recommends drinking disinfectants an shining bright lights in the body" which lead to all kinds rhetoric about his mental stability. As the saying goes, Words have Power".

If you have ever listen to Trump speak, say 40 years ago, you would hear an eloquent speaker who was never lost for the right words. This is another reason why Trump should never speak off the cuff. He comes across as either a babbling idiot or someone whose's quite senile and just can't find the right words to express himself.

^ And the proof is in all the audio and video trails trump left from living his life publicly. They definitely show his mind on a downward trajectory.

Recently, Trump was interviewed about the George Floyd incident and he was asked?

"How do you handle the law enforcement part of this?" What followed was a strange mishmash of ideas that defy any interpretation.
Trump answered:

"They have to get better than what they’ve been doing. I mean obviously that was a terrible thing. And I’ve spoken about it numerous times in various speeches. And what’s interesting is I spoke about it when we launched a very successful rocket — a tremendous program that culminated on that day and obviously it goes on from there.

But I then made a speech and it was a speech about the rocket, and I devoted 25 percent of the speech probably to what happened — or more — to what happened with respect to George — George Floyd, and it was — and then you listen to this, he doesn’t talk about George Floyd. The rocket went off, I then I made a speech, and I talked about George Floyd, but they said he didn’t talk about George Floyd.

Half — maybe even almost half of the speech, but a large portion of the speech was devoted exactly to that. And so, you know, with — with the media you basically — and basically no matter what you do, it’s never going to be good enough. But the people understand it."





what he said is 100% true
 
People that vote for Biden are voting against Trump. Just look at the polls, Biden moves up and Trump moves down and Biden is not even campaigning. Biden supporters couldn't care less about a 2nd term.
I asked what Trumps biggest success war. What did he do that was the reason you voted for him. And the answer was:

He kept Hillary out of the white house.

You do realize a lot of people are voting for Biden just to deny DJT a second term.

yep, a lot of stupid people in the USA.
 
This is another reason why Trump should never speak off the cuff. He comes across as either as a babbling idiot or someone whose's quite senile and just can't find the right words to express himself.
He comes across as "a babbling idiot", a monument to ignorance and a narcissistic megalomaniac, because that's what he is. That information should be available to citizens and voters in abundant quantity, because it is absolutely crucial for them to make their electoral decision. Why would you withhold it from them?
Good Point

Actually, it's a lousy point. That information on the multitude of Trump's personal and mental defects has already been available, in all the quantity one could hope for, and then some, in 2016 (at the latest). And then, what happened? What happened was yet another demonstration that, by and large, "information" does not guide the Great Unwashed's electoral decisions.
In 2016 democrats could only tell voters what Trump would be like as president. In 2020, Trump's actions have provided the proof.


100% correct. until the chinese released the virus on the world, Trump had the best economic record of any president in history, lowest unemployment rates in history, businesses expanding and hiring in the USA, record stock market, closed factories reopening, dialog with NK, terrible trade deals redone, the stupid Iran deal cancelled, ISIS destroyed, American troops brought home from the mid east, NATO members finally paying their fair share. VA saved and vets can now go to private doctors for treatment, the military rebuilt, the wall being built, illegal entry at lowest levels in decades.

yeah, what a terrible record to run on.
 
If you vote for Biden you will really be voting for whichever black female he picks as his running mate. If by some far fetched chance Biden was to win, the dems would declare him unfit on day 2 of his term and put his VP in charge of this country. do you really want Willie Browns squeeze toy running the country?

What would we get from a President Biden?

- Massive jobs killing tax increases check.
- Destruction of oil, gas, and coal so sky high monthly fuel and energy bills check.
- Amnesty for 10's of millions of illegals who will go on welfare paid for by the tax increases check.
- Riots, looting, burning check.

Why vote for that??
Have you heard Joe Biden say any of those things?

Lib please not only Joe Biden but the entire Dem leadership that's why you people can rot in hell as far as I'm concerned :eusa_hand:

3 out of the last 4 Republican Presidents crashed the economy. 40 years of Republican tax codes, fiscal policies, and law and order policing has left the nation broke, sick and unemployed - again.

How long are you going to let these liars, crooks and thieves tell you that Democrats will ruin your life?

Another lie. What are you allergic to the truth or something??

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

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Take a good look at the unemployment chart, and where all those peaks and valleys are located. The grey areas are the recessions. Every Republican President has his own recession. W has 2 of them. Every Republican President has his own stock market crash except Bush 41, but he was a one-term President.

The unemployment rate shows a steady decline under both Clinton and Obama. Obama had to get the economy back on track after W's crash, but from there the unemployment rate is a steady decline, until Trump crashed the economy again. If the chart continued through to today, the spike in unemployment would be right off this chart - today's rate being in excess of 13%.

But keep believing that it's the Democrats who are bringing the working people to their knees, time after time.

BS, none of those were recessions, especially the one in 2008, in 08 we saw a market correction driven by bad mortgage policy that was forced on banks by democrats. It was not a recession, it was a great time to buy into the market. That bad mortgage policy has now been cancelled. We had record economic results as a direct result of Trump's policies until the chinese released the virus on the world and the democrats decided to let radicals burn our cities and create a race war.

Democrats don't give a shit about working people, they expect them to act like sheep, vote for them, and keep them rich while the people subsist on welfare and hand outs.

Then we have the lying media who are nothing but the propaganda arm of the socialist dems that are bent on destroying this great country.
I stopped at "none of those were recessions". Too big a lie to even bother with the rest of the post.


the last real recession in this country was in 1929, since then we have had ups and downs in the market mostly driven by stupid government or fed policy. The word recession has become a political talking point, not an actual economic issue. But you are free to believe the BS if you choose to.
If 1929 was the last recession, I can't wait to hear you're definition of a depression.
 
SO.... to recap.
Both leftist in this thread including the OP... have only stated rhetoric and CNN talking points.
Not one single specific.
Not one single statistic.
Not one single fact.
Just "Orange Man Bad".
And that is all they got. They are used to being able to sit in the choir room and pat each other on the back for maintaining the narrative... Orange Man Bad. And that is all they need.
Like I have said all the past couple of years.... facts only matter when they support the narrative.
A video is worth a thousand words when it comes from Mr Wizard.

More CNN talking blah blah.... nothing specific or concrete.... just Orange Man Bad

That blah blah is coming from the president of the United States. According to Professor Trump this virus is really smart, disinfectants in the body can be good and so can bright light.

It wasn't bright light, it was UV. And of course UV kills virus and bacteria very effectively.
He was making a statement that I wish you could somehow put sunlight through the body.
Trump speaks off the cuff and jaw jacks all the time. Most people can tell what is actual, and what is joking. He has that dry humor style where he looks like he is serious but isn't.
But nevermind...I just wasted 30 seconds typing this.

Generally, a president should not speak off the cuff unless he has an excellent command of the language which Trump obviously does not. Otherwise, you get a Donald Trump who in searching for the words to adequately explain his idea uses the wrong words, misstates facts, says things that aren't true and someone like you has to explain what he really meant. Imagine how his disinfectant and bright lights in the body got interpreted in other countries. In Japan, it was, "US president recommends drinking disinfectants an shining bright lights in the body" which lead to all kinds rhetoric about his mental stability. As the saying goes, Words have Power".

If you have ever listened to Trump speak, say 40 years ago, you would hear an eloquent speaker who was never at a lost for the right words. This is another reason why Trump should never speak off the cuff. He comes across as either as a babbling idiot or someone whose's quite senile and just can't find the right words to express himself.

Yeah cause Biden is so much better of a speaker :D
But yes, I wish someone would take his phone away from him, and he would stop speaking off the cuff. But it is nevertheless how he is. And isn't the first President to have that problem. He is not a politician, and likes to have fun with the media so he says things just to rile them up...which of course works flawlessly... but he doesn't understand in the process he is hurting himself.

The heart of the problem is that Trump doesn't like the job of president but he loves being president. A president's life is not his own. His daily schedule is controlled by others and unforeseen events, For a senator or governor, that is the life they have chosen and that is what they expect as president. For Donald Trump who for about 50 years, has been his own boss in a private business he owned, he was able to completely set his own agenda perusing whatever activity he chose. He answered to no one. As president, he answers to Congress, to his party, his supporters, to his backers, and to the American people.

Most people that come into top level government positions from the private sector, are able to adjust but Donald Trump is not most people. So instead of adapting his life style, desires, and activities to fit that of the presidency, he has tried to change the presidency to fit his life style and that is just not possible. He loves meeting and talking to foreign dignitaries but he doesn't understand international politics so his meetings become photo opts and foreign policy is left to others. He has no interest in national security so he just ignores the meetings. In fact, he has little if any interest in most presidential matters, domestic or foreign. His only real interest is winning the battle, not the setting policy. If he had decided to run as a democrat which he certainly considered, he would be fighting the battle for fair treatment of illegal immigrants, pro-choice, enhancing Obamacare and embarrassing most of the democratic issues. For Trump, it's all about winning. The prize is irrelevant.

Trump may hate all the duties of the presidency but as I said, he loves being president because he loves the notoriety and having his face on TV and the Internet everyday. Any time he finds himself out of the news, he does something rather crazy to get back into the news. Many of our presidents hated campaigning, Truman, Eisenhower, Nixon, H W Bush, Obama but they were living for the opportunity to make changes as president. Trump is just the opposite. He loves campaigning and loves to win. He doesn't care much about the issues just winning the ones he has selected as a political vehicle. He lives for the rallies and loves jousting with candidates or just about any media celebrity. The bully pulpit gives him the most precious gift, a platform that allows him to say anything he chooses and the entire world will listen. As one of his biographers said, what will destroy Trump is for him to speak and no one listens.



not much truth in that, but good writing skills. Our country was not founded and made great by lifetime politicians, it was made great by average hard working people who dedicated a few years of their lives to the country. The real problem we have today is life time politicians who spend years sucking the government tit and whose only goal is to make themselves richer.

Trump threatens the status quo in DC, he threatens to expose the corruption of lifetime do-nothings like Biden, Pelosi, Shumer, and many others of both parties. That is why all of DC is trying to stop him from a second term-------because they know that heads will roll.

Thanks for the compliment. As we learn more about Trump which will come mostly after he has left office, I think you'll find my description of him is pretty accurate. In regard to professional politicians, the idea of having amateur politicians sounds appealing if you believe the job of legislating and governing is so simple and straight forward that no experience is required.

Voters put inexperience legislators, governors, and presidents in office because they believe they will act independently from the "political swamp" in Washington and our state capitals and thus will do a better job of representing their constituents. However, their lack of knowledge and experience leads them to depend on party leaders, career politicians, government officials, and lobbyists and mostly follow their recommendations . Only after they have held office for some years can they act independently.

The fact that so many people believe that no applicable experience is needed to run the government indicates that we really need to do a better job of educating the public.
 
This is another reason why Trump should never speak off the cuff. He comes across as either as a babbling idiot or someone whose's quite senile and just can't find the right words to express himself.
He comes across as "a babbling idiot", a monument to ignorance and a narcissistic megalomaniac, because that's what he is. That information should be available to citizens and voters in abundant quantity, because it is absolutely crucial for them to make their electoral decision. Why would you withhold it from them?
Good Point

Actually, it's a lousy point. That information on the multitude of Trump's personal and mental defects has already been available, in all the quantity one could hope for, and then some, in 2016 (at the latest). And then, what happened? What happened was yet another demonstration that, by and large, "information" does not guide the Great Unwashed's electoral decisions.
In 2016 democrats could only tell voters what Trump would be like as president. In 2020, Trump's actions have provided the proof.


100% correct. until the chinese released the virus on the world, Trump had the best economic record of any president in history, lowest unemployment rates in history, businesses expanding and hiring in the USA, record stock market, closed factories reopening, dialog with NK, terrible trade deals redone, the stupid Iran deal cancelled, ISIS destroyed, American troops brought home from the mid east, NATO members finally paying their fair share. VA saved and vets can now go to private doctors for treatment, the military rebuilt, the wall being built, illegal entry at lowest levels in decades.

yeah, what a terrible record to run on.
It's true the economy has been doing well till the virus - but there have been periods when it was even stronger. Trumps talks with NK was nothing but a photo op, nothing got resolved. His idea of unilateral trade deals have failed and his cancelling of the Iran nuclear deal increased tension between the US and Iran and has made it easier for them to develop nuclear weapons. His deal with China is really just a stalemate. Most of what he claimed to have accomplished is nothing compared to what he promised just like his big beautiful wall across the Mexican border paid for by Mexico. Like most good con men, Trump talks a good line and exaggerates his few accomplishments while ignoring his failures.

However, he does have accomplishments, a 3.7 billion dollar deficit and the largest epidemic in a 100 years which he has managed to make worse due to his lack of leadership and denying the seriousness of the virus until it was out of control. And lastly, his racist comments and actions have been tearing the country apart and aggravating the riots and violence.
 
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I have been avoiding it, but this video makes it clear Biden has full on drooling dementia. He has no idea what he is saying and can’t string two thoughts together.



It's easier for him when he's just reading copy, eh?
 
I have been avoiding it, but this video makes it clear Biden has full on drooling dementia. He has no idea what he is saying and can’t string two thoughts together.



It's easier for him when he's just reading copy, eh?

Not really.

Crazy Joe had teleprompters at his presser today and still looked like a bumbling fool.

Who has teleprompters at a presser unless you know the questions in advance?
Hmmmmm.....
 
I have been avoiding it, but this video makes it clear Biden has full on drooling dementia. He has no idea what he is saying and can’t string two thoughts together.



It's easier for him when he's just reading copy, eh?

When Trump is speaking at his rallies he can go and on without missing a step, as smooth as any con man anywhere. However in speaking to the nation in a news conference about really important stuff, he goes totally off the cuff, disorganized, misstating facts, lying, and delivering some of the most incomprehensible messages of any president in recent history. If you look at his audience, you see mouths hanging open and people scratching their head. Reporters are asking themselves, how am I suppose to report this gibberish?

Kind of telling as to what is really important to him.
 
I have been avoiding it, but this video makes it clear Biden has full on drooling dementia. He has no idea what he is saying and can’t string two thoughts together.



It's easier for him when he's just reading copy, eh?


Trump was reading a teleprompter when he told us about George Washington capturing airports and ramming ramparts
 
If you vote for Biden you will really be voting for whichever black female he picks as his running mate. If by some far fetched chance Biden was to win, the dems would declare him unfit on day 2 of his term and put his VP in charge of this country. do you really want Willie Browns squeeze toy running the country?

What would we get from a President Biden?

- Massive jobs killing tax increases check.
- Destruction of oil, gas, and coal so sky high monthly fuel and energy bills check.
- Amnesty for 10's of millions of illegals who will go on welfare paid for by the tax increases check.
- Riots, looting, burning check.

Why vote for that??
Have you heard Joe Biden say any of those things?

Lib please not only Joe Biden but the entire Dem leadership that's why you people can rot in hell as far as I'm concerned :eusa_hand:

3 out of the last 4 Republican Presidents crashed the economy. 40 years of Republican tax codes, fiscal policies, and law and order policing has left the nation broke, sick and unemployed - again.

How long are you going to let these liars, crooks and thieves tell you that Democrats will ruin your life?

Another lie. What are you allergic to the truth or something??

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

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Take a good look at the unemployment chart, and where all those peaks and valleys are located. The grey areas are the recessions. Every Republican President has his own recession. W has 2 of them. Every Republican President has his own stock market crash except Bush 41, but he was a one-term President.

The unemployment rate shows a steady decline under both Clinton and Obama. Obama had to get the economy back on track after W's crash, but from there the unemployment rate is a steady decline, until Trump crashed the economy again. If the chart continued through to today, the spike in unemployment would be right off this chart - today's rate being in excess of 13%.

But keep believing that it's the Democrats who are bringing the working people to their knees, time after time.

BS, none of those were recessions, especially the one in 2008, in 08 we saw a market correction driven by bad mortgage policy that was forced on banks by democrats. It was not a recession, it was a great time to buy into the market. That bad mortgage policy has now been cancelled. We had record economic results as a direct result of Trump's policies until the chinese released the virus on the world and the democrats decided to let radicals burn our cities and create a race war.

Democrats don't give a shit about working people, they expect them to act like sheep, vote for them, and keep them rich while the people subsist on welfare and hand outs.

Then we have the lying media who are nothing but the propaganda arm of the socialist dems that are bent on destroying this great country.
I stopped at "none of those were recessions". Too big a lie to even bother with the rest of the post.


the last real recession in this country was in 1929, since then we have had ups and downs in the market mostly driven by stupid government or fed policy. The word recession has become a political talking point, not an actual economic issue. But you are free to believe the BS if you choose to.
If 1929 was the last recession, I can't wait to hear you're definition of a depression.


29 was a recession that became a depression. The others on your list were either media political creations or results of short term stupid government policy. the country was doing better than ever before the chinese released the virus on the world, then the idiot democrats decided that destroying the country was their only path to victory in november--------but it won't work, the american people are not that stupid.
 
I have been avoiding it, but this video makes it clear Biden has full on drooling dementia. He has no idea what he is saying and can’t string two thoughts together.



It's easier for him when he's just reading copy, eh?


Trump was reading a teleprompter when he told us about George Washington capturing airports and ramming ramparts



then I suggest that you vote for the senile old crook named Biden. your bullshit will change nothing and in reality probably helps Trump.
 
This is another reason why Trump should never speak off the cuff. He comes across as either as a babbling idiot or someone whose's quite senile and just can't find the right words to express himself.
He comes across as "a babbling idiot", a monument to ignorance and a narcissistic megalomaniac, because that's what he is. That information should be available to citizens and voters in abundant quantity, because it is absolutely crucial for them to make their electoral decision. Why would you withhold it from them?
Good Point

Actually, it's a lousy point. That information on the multitude of Trump's personal and mental defects has already been available, in all the quantity one could hope for, and then some, in 2016 (at the latest). And then, what happened? What happened was yet another demonstration that, by and large, "information" does not guide the Great Unwashed's electoral decisions.
In 2016 democrats could only tell voters what Trump would be like as president. In 2020, Trump's actions have provided the proof.


100% correct. until the chinese released the virus on the world, Trump had the best economic record of any president in history, lowest unemployment rates in history, businesses expanding and hiring in the USA, record stock market, closed factories reopening, dialog with NK, terrible trade deals redone, the stupid Iran deal cancelled, ISIS destroyed, American troops brought home from the mid east, NATO members finally paying their fair share. VA saved and vets can now go to private doctors for treatment, the military rebuilt, the wall being built, illegal entry at lowest levels in decades.

yeah, what a terrible record to run on.
It's true the economy has been doing well till the virus - but there have been periods when it was even stronger. Trumps talks with NK was nothing but a photo op, nothing got resolved. His idea of unilateral trade deals have failed and his cancelling of the Iran nuclear deal increased tension between the US and Iran and has made it easier for them to develop nuclear weapons. His deal with China is really just a stalemate. Most of what he claimed to have accomplished is nothing compared to what he promised just like his big beautiful wall across the Mexican border paid for by Mexico. Like most good con men, Trump talks a good line and exaggerates his few accomplishments while ignoring his failures.

However, he does have accomplishments, a 3.7 billion dollar deficit and the largest epidemic in a 100 years which he has managed to make worse due to his lack of leadership and denying the seriousness of the virus until it was out of control. And lastly, his racist comments and actions have been tearing the country apart and aggravating the riots and violence.


exactly how is Trump responsible for the chinese virus and the deficit spending it created? Are you now saying he is a Chinese agent? Geez, dude are you really as ignorant as that post indicates?
 
This is another reason why Trump should never speak off the cuff. He comes across as either as a babbling idiot or someone whose's quite senile and just can't find the right words to express himself.
He comes across as "a babbling idiot", a monument to ignorance and a narcissistic megalomaniac, because that's what he is. That information should be available to citizens and voters in abundant quantity, because it is absolutely crucial for them to make their electoral decision. Why would you withhold it from them?
Good Point

Actually, it's a lousy point. That information on the multitude of Trump's personal and mental defects has already been available, in all the quantity one could hope for, and then some, in 2016 (at the latest). And then, what happened? What happened was yet another demonstration that, by and large, "information" does not guide the Great Unwashed's electoral decisions.
In 2016 democrats could only tell voters what Trump would be like as president. In 2020, Trump's actions have provided the proof.


100% correct. until the chinese released the virus on the world, Trump had the best economic record of any president in history, lowest unemployment rates in history, businesses expanding and hiring in the USA, record stock market, closed factories reopening, dialog with NK, terrible trade deals redone, the stupid Iran deal cancelled, ISIS destroyed, American troops brought home from the mid east, NATO members finally paying their fair share. VA saved and vets can now go to private doctors for treatment, the military rebuilt, the wall being built, illegal entry at lowest levels in decades.

yeah, what a terrible record to run on.
It's true the economy has been doing well till the virus - but there have been periods when it was even stronger. Trumps talks with NK was nothing but a photo op, nothing got resolved. His idea of unilateral trade deals have failed and his cancelling of the Iran nuclear deal increased tension between the US and Iran and has made it easier for them to develop nuclear weapons. His deal with China is really just a stalemate. Most of what he claimed to have accomplished is nothing compared to what he promised just like his big beautiful wall across the Mexican border paid for by Mexico. Like most good con men, Trump talks a good line and exaggerates his few accomplishments while ignoring his failures.

However, he does have accomplishments, a 3.7 billion dollar deficit and the largest epidemic in a 100 years which he has managed to make worse due to his lack of leadership and denying the seriousness of the virus until it was out of control. And lastly, his racist comments and actions have been tearing the country apart and aggravating the riots and violence.


exactly how is Trump responsible for the chinese virus and the deficit spending it created? Are you now saying he is a Chinese agent? Geez, dude are you really as ignorant as that post indicates?
He didn't cause it; he just made it worse
 
This is another reason why Trump should never speak off the cuff. He comes across as either as a babbling idiot or someone whose's quite senile and just can't find the right words to express himself.
He comes across as "a babbling idiot", a monument to ignorance and a narcissistic megalomaniac, because that's what he is. That information should be available to citizens and voters in abundant quantity, because it is absolutely crucial for them to make their electoral decision. Why would you withhold it from them?
Good Point

Actually, it's a lousy point. That information on the multitude of Trump's personal and mental defects has already been available, in all the quantity one could hope for, and then some, in 2016 (at the latest). And then, what happened? What happened was yet another demonstration that, by and large, "information" does not guide the Great Unwashed's electoral decisions.
In 2016 democrats could only tell voters what Trump would be like as president. In 2020, Trump's actions have provided the proof.


100% correct. until the chinese released the virus on the world, Trump had the best economic record of any president in history, lowest unemployment rates in history, businesses expanding and hiring in the USA, record stock market, closed factories reopening, dialog with NK, terrible trade deals redone, the stupid Iran deal cancelled, ISIS destroyed, American troops brought home from the mid east, NATO members finally paying their fair share. VA saved and vets can now go to private doctors for treatment, the military rebuilt, the wall being built, illegal entry at lowest levels in decades.

yeah, what a terrible record to run on.
It's true the economy has been doing well till the virus - but there have been periods when it was even stronger. Trumps talks with NK was nothing but a photo op, nothing got resolved. His idea of unilateral trade deals have failed and his cancelling of the Iran nuclear deal increased tension between the US and Iran and has made it easier for them to develop nuclear weapons. His deal with China is really just a stalemate. Most of what he claimed to have accomplished is nothing compared to what he promised just like his big beautiful wall across the Mexican border paid for by Mexico. Like most good con men, Trump talks a good line and exaggerates his few accomplishments while ignoring his failures.

However, he does have accomplishments, a 3.7 billion dollar deficit and the largest epidemic in a 100 years which he has managed to make worse due to his lack of leadership and denying the seriousness of the virus until it was out of control. And lastly, his racist comments and actions have been tearing the country apart and aggravating the riots and violence.


exactly how is Trump responsible for the chinese virus and the deficit spending it created? Are you now saying he is a Chinese agent? Geez, dude are you really as ignorant as that post indicates?
He didn't cause it; he just made it worse


how exactly and specifically did he make it worse? By banning flights from china and europe when biden and pelosi were calling that racist and xenophobic? By creating a govt/private partnership to produce ventilators at rates never possible before? By calling on the drug companies to expedite vaccines and treatments? by having daily press briefings to keep everyone aware of what was going on? By putting testing equipment all over the country and the world?

So tell us, oh wise one, how exactly did Trump make the virus worse?

you want to know who made it worse? the lying media, the lying democrats, and the lying Chinese.
 
This is another reason why Trump should never speak off the cuff. He comes across as either as a babbling idiot or someone whose's quite senile and just can't find the right words to express himself.
He comes across as "a babbling idiot", a monument to ignorance and a narcissistic megalomaniac, because that's what he is. That information should be available to citizens and voters in abundant quantity, because it is absolutely crucial for them to make their electoral decision. Why would you withhold it from them?
Good Point

Actually, it's a lousy point. That information on the multitude of Trump's personal and mental defects has already been available, in all the quantity one could hope for, and then some, in 2016 (at the latest). And then, what happened? What happened was yet another demonstration that, by and large, "information" does not guide the Great Unwashed's electoral decisions.
In 2016 democrats could only tell voters what Trump would be like as president. In 2020, Trump's actions have provided the proof.


100% correct. until the chinese released the virus on the world, Trump had the best economic record of any president in history, lowest unemployment rates in history, businesses expanding and hiring in the USA, record stock market, closed factories reopening, dialog with NK, terrible trade deals redone, the stupid Iran deal cancelled, ISIS destroyed, American troops brought home from the mid east, NATO members finally paying their fair share. VA saved and vets can now go to private doctors for treatment, the military rebuilt, the wall being built, illegal entry at lowest levels in decades.

yeah, what a terrible record to run on.
It's true the economy has been doing well till the virus - but there have been periods when it was even stronger. Trumps talks with NK was nothing but a photo op, nothing got resolved. His idea of unilateral trade deals have failed and his cancelling of the Iran nuclear deal increased tension between the US and Iran and has made it easier for them to develop nuclear weapons. His deal with China is really just a stalemate. Most of what he claimed to have accomplished is nothing compared to what he promised just like his big beautiful wall across the Mexican border paid for by Mexico. Like most good con men, Trump talks a good line and exaggerates his few accomplishments while ignoring his failures.

However, he does have accomplishments, a 3.7 billion dollar deficit and the largest epidemic in a 100 years which he has managed to make worse due to his lack of leadership and denying the seriousness of the virus until it was out of control. And lastly, his racist comments and actions have been tearing the country apart and aggravating the riots and violence.


exactly how is Trump responsible for the chinese virus and the deficit spending it created? Are you now saying he is a Chinese agent? Geez, dude are you really as ignorant as that post indicates?
He didn't cause it; he just made it worse


how exactly and specifically did he make it worse? By banning flights from china and europe when biden and pelosi were calling that racist and xenophobic? By creating a govt/private partnership to produce ventilators at rates never possible before? By calling on the drug companies to expedite vaccines and treatments? by having daily press briefings to keep everyone aware of what was going on? By putting testing equipment all over the country and the world?

So tell us, oh wise one, how exactly did Trump make the virus worse?

you want to know who made it worse? the lying media, the lying democrats, and the lying Chinese.
Trump said, "I don’t take responsibility at all” on March 13 in the Rose Garden. This simple statement says it all. That the pandemic occurred is not his fault, but the total unpreparedness, the misinformation, and the decisions and non-decisions since he first received a briefing in November and then at the beginning of the year are on him.

Ten weeks of insisting that the coronavirus was a harmless flu that would quickly go away by itself? Continually giving the public inaccurate information only to be corrected by medical experts? The elimination of the pandemic response network established by President Barack Obama is Trump’s fault. The failure to store sufficient protective medical gear in the national stockpile is Trump’s fault. The loss of stockpiled respirators to breakage because the federal government let the maintenance contracts lapse in 2018 is Trump’s fault. That states like Montana were bidding against other states for equipment, paying far more than their original price for ventilators is Trump’s fault. Or how about governors of red states refusing to close public beaches in Florida or the Gulf Coast beaches until late March? There is blame to go around; but, Trump could have stopped it, but didn’t. Republican governors and evangelical leaders responded to Trump’s lackadaisical and uninformed messages by being misinformed.

Or how about the lying about the coronavirus by Fox News and conservative talk radio to protect Trump. The false hopes of instant cures and nonexistent vaccines Trump told to cover up his failure to act in time. The severity of the economic crisis is Trump’s fault because if he would have acted sooner, the number of jobless Americans would be far less. The volume of families in food lines, such as in San Antonio, would be fewer. And the number of dead Americans, grandparents, parents, loved ones would be less. A severity that may yet rival the Great Depression for unemployed and hungry Americans.

Trump's refusal to wear a mask and support other actions to stop the spread of the virus has made it a political issue with proud Trump supporters following his lead. Even law enforcement officers have refused to enforce governor's covid 19 orders. The sheriff in Yakima County Washington refuses to enforce a state ordered mask wearing in his country citing the example of the president.
 
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This is another reason why Trump should never speak off the cuff. He comes across as either as a babbling idiot or someone whose's quite senile and just can't find the right words to express himself.
He comes across as "a babbling idiot", a monument to ignorance and a narcissistic megalomaniac, because that's what he is. That information should be available to citizens and voters in abundant quantity, because it is absolutely crucial for them to make their electoral decision. Why would you withhold it from them?
Good Point

Actually, it's a lousy point. That information on the multitude of Trump's personal and mental defects has already been available, in all the quantity one could hope for, and then some, in 2016 (at the latest). And then, what happened? What happened was yet another demonstration that, by and large, "information" does not guide the Great Unwashed's electoral decisions.
In 2016 democrats could only tell voters what Trump would be like as president. In 2020, Trump's actions have provided the proof.


100% correct. until the chinese released the virus on the world, Trump had the best economic record of any president in history, lowest unemployment rates in history, businesses expanding and hiring in the USA, record stock market, closed factories reopening, dialog with NK, terrible trade deals redone, the stupid Iran deal cancelled, ISIS destroyed, American troops brought home from the mid east, NATO members finally paying their fair share. VA saved and vets can now go to private doctors for treatment, the military rebuilt, the wall being built, illegal entry at lowest levels in decades.

yeah, what a terrible record to run on.
Creating and supporting conspiracy theories has been a pastime of our president for many years. This one has no basis in fact. Yes, there are reports by dissidents and theories as to why China would want to infect the world but in the end it makes no sense. First, if China wanted to release the virus, they could easily do in other countries eliminating thousands deaths in China and possible being able to avoid the virus all together. However, the over riding reason China would never want a pandemic is the huge economic lost China would sustain. Retail sails are down 20%, industrial output is down 29%, Chinese investments are down over 30%, and exports have fallen to a level not seen in nearly 40 years.
 
This is another reason why Trump should never speak off the cuff. He comes across as either as a babbling idiot or someone whose's quite senile and just can't find the right words to express himself.
He comes across as "a babbling idiot", a monument to ignorance and a narcissistic megalomaniac, because that's what he is. That information should be available to citizens and voters in abundant quantity, because it is absolutely crucial for them to make their electoral decision. Why would you withhold it from them?
Good Point

Actually, it's a lousy point. That information on the multitude of Trump's personal and mental defects has already been available, in all the quantity one could hope for, and then some, in 2016 (at the latest). And then, what happened? What happened was yet another demonstration that, by and large, "information" does not guide the Great Unwashed's electoral decisions.
In 2016 democrats could only tell voters what Trump would be like as president. In 2020, Trump's actions have provided the proof.


100% correct. until the chinese released the virus on the world, Trump had the best economic record of any president in history, lowest unemployment rates in history, businesses expanding and hiring in the USA, record stock market, closed factories reopening, dialog with NK, terrible trade deals redone, the stupid Iran deal cancelled, ISIS destroyed, American troops brought home from the mid east, NATO members finally paying their fair share. VA saved and vets can now go to private doctors for treatment, the military rebuilt, the wall being built, illegal entry at lowest levels in decades.

yeah, what a terrible record to run on.
It's true the economy has been doing well till the virus - but there have been periods when it was even stronger. Trumps talks with NK was nothing but a photo op, nothing got resolved. His idea of unilateral trade deals have failed and his cancelling of the Iran nuclear deal increased tension between the US and Iran and has made it easier for them to develop nuclear weapons. His deal with China is really just a stalemate. Most of what he claimed to have accomplished is nothing compared to what he promised just like his big beautiful wall across the Mexican border paid for by Mexico. Like most good con men, Trump talks a good line and exaggerates his few accomplishments while ignoring his failures.

However, he does have accomplishments, a 3.7 billion dollar deficit and the largest epidemic in a 100 years which he has managed to make worse due to his lack of leadership and denying the seriousness of the virus until it was out of control. And lastly, his racist comments and actions have been tearing the country apart and aggravating the riots and violence.


exactly how is Trump responsible for the chinese virus and the deficit spending it created? Are you now saying he is a Chinese agent? Geez, dude are you really as ignorant as that post indicates?
He didn't cause it; he just made it worse
How? Be specific. Detail his actions that made is worse.
 
This is another reason why Trump should never speak off the cuff. He comes across as either as a babbling idiot or someone whose's quite senile and just can't find the right words to express himself.
He comes across as "a babbling idiot", a monument to ignorance and a narcissistic megalomaniac, because that's what he is. That information should be available to citizens and voters in abundant quantity, because it is absolutely crucial for them to make their electoral decision. Why would you withhold it from them?
Good Point

Actually, it's a lousy point. That information on the multitude of Trump's personal and mental defects has already been available, in all the quantity one could hope for, and then some, in 2016 (at the latest). And then, what happened? What happened was yet another demonstration that, by and large, "information" does not guide the Great Unwashed's electoral decisions.
In 2016 democrats could only tell voters what Trump would be like as president. In 2020, Trump's actions have provided the proof.


100% correct. until the chinese released the virus on the world, Trump had the best economic record of any president in history, lowest unemployment rates in history, businesses expanding and hiring in the USA, record stock market, closed factories reopening, dialog with NK, terrible trade deals redone, the stupid Iran deal cancelled, ISIS destroyed, American troops brought home from the mid east, NATO members finally paying their fair share. VA saved and vets can now go to private doctors for treatment, the military rebuilt, the wall being built, illegal entry at lowest levels in decades.

yeah, what a terrible record to run on.
It's true the economy has been doing well till the virus - but there have been periods when it was even stronger. Trumps talks with NK was nothing but a photo op, nothing got resolved. His idea of unilateral trade deals have failed and his cancelling of the Iran nuclear deal increased tension between the US and Iran and has made it easier for them to develop nuclear weapons. His deal with China is really just a stalemate. Most of what he claimed to have accomplished is nothing compared to what he promised just like his big beautiful wall across the Mexican border paid for by Mexico. Like most good con men, Trump talks a good line and exaggerates his few accomplishments while ignoring his failures.

However, he does have accomplishments, a 3.7 billion dollar deficit and the largest epidemic in a 100 years which he has managed to make worse due to his lack of leadership and denying the seriousness of the virus until it was out of control. And lastly, his racist comments and actions have been tearing the country apart and aggravating the riots and violence.


exactly how is Trump responsible for the chinese virus and the deficit spending it created? Are you now saying he is a Chinese agent? Geez, dude are you really as ignorant as that post indicates?
He didn't cause it; he just made it worse
How? Be specific. Detail his actions that made is worse.
Too many to list but for starters:
  • In 2018, he abolished the Pandemic Response Teams whose job was to prepare a plan for dealing with the pandemic, maintaining essential supplies, coordinating with states and other countries, etc.
  • In the Spring of 2019, Trump was sent a report from Homeland Security pointing out how unprepared the US was to deal with a pandemic. Actions take - None
  • In November 2019, December 2019 and early January 2020 his security briefings included updates on the progress of the virus in China. Actions taken - None
  • He issue an executive order in January that blocked entrance to travelers who were in China but still it allowed over 40,000 to enter the US and spread the virus and this was after the 1st case of coronavirus entered the US from China.
  • European travelers that brought the virus to the east coast and subsequently the southeast came from Europe beginning in mid January. It would be two months before Trump banned travel from Europe.
  • Trump had no interest in the virus in January or February. As he said, it was just the common flu, a democrat hoax. Thus the pandemic had about zero priority in the Trump administration as it was spreading across the country.
  • He organized a Pandemic Response Team on Jan 31, "out of an abundance of caution" with Pence as chairmen. He never attended a single meeting until March and there is no evidence that the team did anything until March.
  • His lack of attention put the US nearly two month behind other countries in producing working test kits even thou the US got the genome at the same time as the rest of world. Not having working test kits in areas where the virus was active in March made it impossible to identify who had the virus and thus there was little tracking or quarantining.
By the end of March, Trump's lack of planning, leadership and inattention to what would be the greatest crisis of his administration allowed the virus to spread throughout the country. In an epidemic you have a very narrow window to contain it. After that, only drastic measures can slow it down. In April and the following months, Trump screwed up time after time but those were incidental to what happened and didn't happen in those first critical months.
 
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