Ok . . . Five Weeks to Complete the Twelve Single-Subject Spending Bills and Select a Speaker, then . . .

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One week to vote each one of them and prepare to send them to the Senate on the last day before the shutdown.

From before McCarthy stabbed the American people in the back:

To Gaetz, there’s a clear path forward: Schedule votes on single-subject spending bills.

“We can pass them. House conservatives did vote for them last night and if we do that, we can get a vast majority of this government funded without any interruption and then minimize any disruption as a consequence of any partial shutdown,” Gaetz said.

House Freedom Caucus member Byron Donalds, R-Fla., said he has not lost sight of the 12 appropriations bills that he wants passed individually to cut federal spending.

“At the end of the day, the fiscal health of the nation is in shambles and inflation is hurting our people regardless of their politics so you have to come out of this entire experience cutting spending and securing the nation’s border,” Donalds said.


Start passing those bills.

Then the Democrats can decide if they want to stop paying soldiers and border patrol, and all those other dire consequences the media pretends are going to happen in order to make it a juicier news story. It's stupid to say that "we won't pass a bill unless we know the Senate will vote for it." The U.S. Constitution specifies that All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives.

It says nothing about saying "Mother may I," to the Senate first.

This was the RINO thought process that led to passing the Pelosi CR:

House Republicans emerging from a closed-door meeting Friday told reporters various options were discussed from a 48-hour stopgap measure to a 45-day long continuing resolution. Most GOP lawmakers expressed support for a two-week measure but it is unclear what short-term legislation can pass through the Democratic-controlled Senate.

“We’re all over the map in duration. Some people want to put what we just did back on the floor. Others want 14 days, some just say seven days. So we’re all over the place,” Rep. Steve Womack, R-Ark., told reporters Friday.

Rep. Bob Good, R-Va., a Freedom Caucus member, walking out of the conference meeting, expressed irritation and told reporters it “did not go well” and that he personally was pushing for a week-long stopgap, but the options presented in the meeting he thought, were “worse than the (continuing resolution) that was on the floor Friday.”


So, why did McCarthy bring to the floor a CR with the maximum length of time discussed? Why not throw the non-RINO Republicans a bone by making it the usual 30 day?

We will never know, because they will never tell us, but my guess is that he made a deal with House Dems to give them the Pelosi CR, and for the full 45 days. Maybe so they know for sure that he did it as part of the deal. Kinda like when a gangster fixes a fight and tells the boxer, "your ass goes down in the fifth."

If he did make a deal, and why would he have done this if he hadn't, it looks like they reneged. Oh, well, a reneger cannot complain when he gets reneged on, now can he?

Anyway, got off track.

I meant to talk about the benefits of 12 single-subject bills vs. one Omnibus spending bill. It seems pretty obvious to me. That's the way to be transparent in what we are spending money on, and to avoid having a mega bill stuffed with hidden pork.

Anyone know the downside to that, other than that it would be transparent and you can't stuff it with so much hidden pork?
 
One week to vote each one of them and prepare to send them to the Senate on the last day before the shutdown.

From before McCarthy stabbed the American people in the back:

To Gaetz, there’s a clear path forward: Schedule votes on single-subject spending bills.

“We can pass them. House conservatives did vote for them last night and if we do that, we can get a vast majority of this government funded without any interruption and then minimize any disruption as a consequence of any partial shutdown,” Gaetz said.

House Freedom Caucus member Byron Donalds, R-Fla., said he has not lost sight of the 12 appropriations bills that he wants passed individually to cut federal spending.

“At the end of the day, the fiscal health of the nation is in shambles and inflation is hurting our people regardless of their politics so you have to come out of this entire experience cutting spending and securing the nation’s border,” Donalds said.


Start passing those bills.

Then the Democrats can decide if they want to stop paying soldiers and border patrol, and all those other dire consequences the media pretends are going to happen in order to make it a juicier news story. It's stupid to say that "we won't pass a bill unless we know the Senate will vote for it." The U.S. Constitution specifies that All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives.

It says nothing about saying "Mother may I," to the Senate first.

This was the RINO thought process that led to passing the Pelosi CR:

House Republicans emerging from a closed-door meeting Friday told reporters various options were discussed from a 48-hour stopgap measure to a 45-day long continuing resolution. Most GOP lawmakers expressed support for a two-week measure but it is unclear what short-term legislation can pass through the Democratic-controlled Senate.

“We’re all over the map in duration. Some people want to put what we just did back on the floor. Others want 14 days, some just say seven days. So we’re all over the place,” Rep. Steve Womack, R-Ark., told reporters Friday.

Rep. Bob Good, R-Va., a Freedom Caucus member, walking out of the conference meeting, expressed irritation and told reporters it “did not go well” and that he personally was pushing for a week-long stopgap, but the options presented in the meeting he thought, were “worse than the (continuing resolution) that was on the floor Friday.”


So, why did McCarthy bring to the floor a CR with the maximum length of time discussed? Why not throw the non-RINO Republicans a bone by making it the usual 30 day?

We will never know, because they will never tell us, but my guess is that he made a deal with House Dems to give them the Pelosi CR, and for the full 45 days. Maybe so they know for sure that he did it as part of the deal. Kinda like when a gangster fixes a fight and tells the boxer, "your ass goes down in the fifth."

If he did make a deal, and why would he have done this if he hadn't, it looks like they reneged. Oh, well, a reneger cannot complain when he gets reneged on, now can he?

Anyway, got off track.

I meant to talk about the benefits of 12 single-subject bills vs. one Omnibus spending bill. It seems pretty obvious to me. That's the way to be transparent in what we are spending money on, and to avoid having a mega bill stuffed with hidden pork.

Anyone know the downside to that, other than that it would be transparent and you can't stuff it with so much hidden pork?
Yes, the problem is that what people ignorantly call "pork" in bills is often actually necessary government spending. And that there are only 365 days in a year. So our congress cannot vote on every single line item . We would need 100 congresses just for that.
 
Yes, the problem is that what people ignorantly call "pork" in bills is often actually necessary government spending. And that there are only 365 days in a year. So our congress cannot vote on every single line item . We would need 100 congresses just for that.
is often actually necessary government spending.
Close the border. Necessary spending. Funding the military. Necessary Funding. Fuck the rest of the spending, time for lazy ass liberals to get off their fucking ass, and get to work, or starve....
 
Democrats are onboard with the single item voting thing. They're tired of all the fuckery too.

It's going to be Jim Jordan or Byron Donalds, Democrats (in the House) don't mind Jim Jordan and will

vote either one in. The House is actually kinda in the process of self-correcting, it's glorious in a way. :yes_text12:

They're tired of nothing happening with all the long bills and hidden agendas and whatnot.
 
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No bills can be introduced or acted upon until there's a Speaker. It is a rule. Here's a thought, before you unilaterally shut down government with only eight people, have a plan on how you're going to fix everything first. Otherwise you are just an agent of chaos.
 
No bills can be introduced or acted upon until there's a Speaker. It is a rule. Here's a thought, before you unilaterally shut down government with only eight people, have a plan on how you're going to fix everything first. Otherwise you are just an agent of chaos.
There's a plan, they're going to put a vote forward. ( for Speaker) Calm your titties.

They might be on the Twatter talking about it tonight after hours.

Actually like right about now or a little earlier.

I think it's public, but don't quote me on that.
 
No bills can be introduced or acted upon until there's a Speaker. It is a rule. Here's a thought, before you unilaterally shut down government with only eight people, have a plan on how you're going to fix everything first. Otherwise you are just an agent of chaos.
So pulling a fire alarm at the last second to get the Congressrats out of the building to avoid a vote, isnt an agent of chaos?
 
So pulling a fire alarm at the last second to get the Congressrats out of the building to avoid a vote, isnt an agent of chaos?
Nancy probably put him up to it.

This The House right now:



Only she's not dead, just out of town, and kinda outta power.

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Democrats are onboard with the single item voting thing. They're tired of all the fuckery too.

It's going to be Jim Jordan or Byron Donalds, Democrats (in the House) don't mind Jim Jordan and will

vote either one in. The House is actually kinda in the process of self-correcting, it's glorious in a way. :yes_text12:

They're tired of nothing happening with all the long bills and hidden agendas and whatnot.
Yes, interesting how the FF had such foresight.
 
No bills can be introduced or acted upon until there's a Speaker. It is a rule. Here's a thought, before you unilaterally shut down government with only eight people, have a plan on how you're going to fix everything first. Otherwise you are just an agent of chaos.
Only 8 people? Are you sure about that? I know that what McCarthy has been saying, but in his grief, he may not be thinking clearly.



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Oh.

So it was not 8 people, but 8 + 208 people. Hm.
 

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