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Pub/Pub dupe doctors- shocking. Of course, in reality, Romneycare/Teddycare proves none of these horrors happen, people love it, and prices get under control. But thanks for the fear mongering BS, dupe.
 

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Actually, on this Obama and I are pragmatic centrist- it's a Pub plan. The GOP is far right/pure obstruction. Send your ideas to add to your representatives.
 
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Actually, on this Obama and I are pragmatic centrist- it's a Pub plan. The GOP is far right/pure obstruction. Send your ideas to add to your representatives.
Swallow obamas balls already so you can speak clearly. Obamacare sucks and you know it, socialist.
 

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"Hey, stop making it harder to defraud Medicare!" made it into a newspaper ad? Against the law?
 

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See Romneycare or any other modern country. It works great.
Your right, if you don't mind dying on a waiting list. Why do you think the wealthy from other countries come here.
 

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See Romneycare or any other modern country. It works great.
Your right, if you don't mind dying on a waiting list. Why do you think the wealthy from other countries come here.

Another Republican myth -- "the wealthy from other countries come here [for medical care]" -- a few wealthy from other countries come here for medical care, but most don't and-----and the USofA has pretty good healthcare if you are rich enough to access it, but-----but the USofA doesn't even make it on to any list of top ten "Medical Tourism" destinations.


Brazil to Turkey: Top 10 Medical Tourism Destinations

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We all know Malaysia and India as a mystic Eastern tourist hot-spots, but do you know that they prominently feature on the top 10 Medical Tourism Destinations too. Approximately 500,000 Americans and more than 2 million international citizens travel abroad each year to take advantage of affordable health care services, treatments and surgeries.

Believe it or not, almost every standard medical procedure and treatment is available overseas with a cost saving ranging from 15% to a whopping 85%. Orthopedics, cardiovascular surgery, dental care, cosmetic surgery, and cancer diagnosis/treatment and specialty treatments, such as in vitro fertilization (IVF), bariatric surgeries and certain stem cell treatments are among the services patients most commonly seek overseas.
Dramatic Cost Comparisons

Dramatic cost savings is the supreme reason for blooming medical tourism. Lets take a comparative look at treatments and their costs in US and approximate foreign counter-value:
1. A heart bypass surgery in the U.S. would from range $70,000 to $133,000 but the same will cost $7,000 in India or $22,000 in Thailand.
2. Similarly, hip replacement in India, Malaysia, Singapore, South Korea and Thailand can run as low as1/5th the cost for the same surgery back in U.S.
3. A face-lift, costing $10,500 to $16,000 in the U.S., is $5,500 to $6,500 in Brazil, as low as $2,400 in Thailand and $4,000 to $8,000 in Singapore, South Korea and Mexico.
4. More expensive dental crown and implant procedures are available at 1/3rd of U.S. cost
5. Dental inlays/overlays in Costa Rica, Hungary, Mexico and Thailand, countries well known for their high-quality dental work, are less than a 1/4th of U.S. cost.

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Top 10 Medical Tourism Destinations

Brazil
The land of beaches and bikinis is also home to the highest per capita number of practicing cosmetic doctors in the world. Brazil attracts tourists not only to Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro, but also to smaller cities, including Porto Alegre and Santos. Cosmetic procedures such as tummy tucks, breast augmentations, face-lifts and rhinoplasty, run $3,000 to $6,500.

Costa Rica

The land of volcanoes, a beautiful ecological paradise attracts nearly 15% of international tourists, for mainly cosmetic surgery and dental care. San Jose and its surrounding area are home to hundreds of board-certified doctors, surgeons and dentists. Costa Rica is also one of the top 5 medical tourism destinations for Americans.

Hungary

The geological paradise, known for its mineral springs, lakes, baths and spas, Hungary has more dentists per capita than any other country. Not just Budapest, but small towns like Mosonmagyaróvár, near the Austrian border, has 160 dental offices. Many EU tourists prefer these small towns for major dental care, including cosmetic oral surgeries, full-mouth restorations and implants.


India
The land of Yoga and color is now attracting more Americans to travel here for cardiac and orthopedic procedures than for all other treatments combined. India offers top private hospitals, especially in metros like Bangalore, Delhi, Chennai and Mumbai. An astonishing fact is that medical travel to India is growing by 30% a year, thanks to increasing numbers of Americans, Canadians and Europeans— especially those seeking expensive cardiac and orthopedic surgeries, which often cost tens of thousands of dollars less here than in their home countries.

Malaysia

The beautiful Malay Kingdom, with more than 250,000 medical travelers per year, is on it’s way to pip India, Thailand, and neighboring Singapore in terms of its medical facilities, skill and costs. With an expertise in special burn treatment centers, Malaysian hospitals have created “well-man” and “well-woman” packages that include extensive, low-cost physicals and tests promoting preventive care. A battery of tests, including blood work, bone density scan, chest X-ray and treadmill, usually runs just $340, compared to $2,500 in the U.S, an unbelievable bargain with wall the scenic beauty, thrown in the package!

Mexico

For those not willing to travel too-much, too-far, Mexico is an ideal place. It’s not surprising that more than 70% of Mexico’s U.S. patients reside in south-western states of California, Texas or Arizona. Patients from these states make the 2-6 hour drive across the border to a clinic, stay for a couple of nights and then return home. Favorable treatments are body checkups, dental cleanings, physicals and other treatments that cost much less than in the U.S. along with the added benefit of minimal travel.

Singapore

It’s no wonder that Singapore attracts many international patients; it has a health care system that the World Health Organization(WHO) ranks as the best in Asia and 6th best in the world. This medical tourism veteran specializes in a broad range of treatments offered, including cardiology and cardiac surgery, gastroenterology, general surgery, hepatology, neurology, oncology, ophthalmology, orthopedics and stem cell therapy. Another proud feather in its cap is Biopolis, $300 Million, 2-million-square-foot biotechnology research center that opened in late 2003. The Biopolis includes a stem cell bank, thanks to Singapore’s liberal laws on using human embryonic cells for research.


South Korea
South Korea has earned a reputation for spinal surgeries, cancer screenings and treatments and cosmetic surgeries. Amazingly, many South Korean hospitals are fully digitized, with electronic health records as the standard. Amongst other medical surprises, Daegu’s 17th century herbal medicine market is a must visit. Busan’s Hanyang University Medical Center, on the southern seacoast, attracts many medical travelers for low-cost, comprehensive health screenings.

Thailand

Thailand is already a leader in cosmetic surgery, with an excellent medical infrastructure. All this happened with an unfortunate turn of events, with a crash of Thai currency, Baht, in the late 1990s; but Thailand, in a smart move, turned this into an economic opportunity by attracting patients from nearby Japan, Vietnam, China and South Korea. Eventually, Westerners joined the flow to Bangkok and Phuket, primarily for elective surgeries whose low cost and the beautiful resorts more than make up for the long flight and other travel expenses.

Turkey

Did you know that this Eurasian country is home to more JCI-accredited health care facilities than any nation outside the U.S. Even for Asian patients, it is draw to access a medical system that has plenty of doctors who are Western-trained and fluent in English. Apart form that, the Turkish government enforces strict quality standards in every area of medical technology, facilities and personnel; to keep this inflow alive and well-maintained. For example, Prof. Dr. Ioannis Pallikaris (Rector of Crete University), known as the Father of eye laser, has establish Turkey’s Dünya Göz hospital as the biggest education and research institute in the world in a unique collaboration between his university and the world renown hospital.

Medical tourism carries some risks that locally-provided medical care does not, including legal and ethical risks. Exposure to unknown viruses in a foreign environment and improper rehabilitation are the leading issues plaguing medical tourists. Yes, each vacation has its burden but with proper research, one can have a affordable treatment in a world-class facility, while being on a holiday. You could also visit HealthCare Tourism International (HTI) and Medical Tourism Association (MTA) for more information on Medical Tourism
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Lovebear, did you make any attempt to find out how many thousands of doctors practice in Ohio?

Some guy that does colonoscopies and his drinking buddies aren't even a blip on the radar.
 

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Ohio doctor running newspaper ads against Obamacare | The Daily Caller


The names of more than 40 doctors are listed as supportive of the letter, which states that Obamacare “is an administrative and fiscal disaster, bringing higher health care costs, a severe physician shortage and the rationing of medical services.”
So far he has 40 doctors signing on with him. That is impressive, considering there are only 60 doctors in the entire state. Oh, my bad, let me correct that. There are 30,000 doctors in Ohio. Out of 30,000, you could probably find 40 that believe the world is coming to an end on December 21st.
 

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The Ohio docs are dead on. This is good news. Finally, people will learn how Obamacare will destroy the best health care in the world. We will have a fancy new health care system - and pathetic health care. Just like all those crappy countries in Stars list....

Funny, but rich people in all those Countries come to America for the best health care money can buy. Yeah, our system sucks - but you don't have to send health care to the crapper in order to fix the system.

I've worked in the field since 1991 and have YET to find one doc who thinks health care will improve with Obamacare.

Add to that that almost 2/3 of Americans STILL don't want it. Only the socialists - er, left-lined democrats want it --- and only to show support for their savior.
 

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Ohio doctor running newspaper ads against Obamacare | The Daily Caller


The names of more than 40 doctors are listed as supportive of the letter, which states that Obamacare “is an administrative and fiscal disaster, bringing higher health care costs, a severe physician shortage and the rationing of medical services.”
this was mentioned yesterday. good news for romney. obma need hit newspaper and tv ad hard.

koch are also going it at it hard for romney in ohio and more going door to door which is a worry.

obama need to go all out in ground war. all out and i mean all out
 

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Let's do the math, chitlins:

30,000 doctors/42dissenters

30,000:42

5,000:7

714:1

Yeah, that'll just kill Obama.
 

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Pub/Pub dupe doctors- shocking. Of course, in reality, Romneycare/Teddycare proves none of these horrors happen, people love it, and prices get under control. But thanks for the fear mongering BS, dupe.
You haven't actually done any research at all on the subject, have you. Sometimes you need to ("get a little fresh air") go beyond just one or two media networks (like MSNBC) and actually do some "factual digging" on your own, to educate yourself in the matter and uncover the truth.


With cost rising, small companies turning to state
Firms cancel health coverage

Firms cancel health coverage - The Boston Globe Published July 18, 2010


The relentlessly rising cost of health insurance is prompting some small Massachusetts companies to drop coverage for their workers and encourage them to sign up for state-subsidized care instead, a trend that, some analysts say, could eventually weigh heavily on the state’s already-stressed budget.

Since April 1, the date many insurance contracts are renewed for small businesses, the owners of about 90 small companies terminated their insurance plans with Braintree-based broker Jeff Rich and indicated in a follow-up survey that they were relying on publicly-funded insurance for their employees.

Massachusetts Faces Costs of Big Health Care Plan
New York Times Published: March 15, 2009
BOSTON — Three years ago, Massachusetts enacted perhaps the boldest state health care experiment in American history, bringing near-universal coverage to the commonwealth with Paul Revere speed. To make it happen, Democratic lawmakers and Gov. Mitt Romney, a Republican, made an expedient choice, deferring until another day any serious effort to control the state’s runaway health costs.

The day of reckoning has arrived.

Both Gov. Deval Patrick, Mr. Romney’s Democratic successor, and a high-level state commission have set out to revamp the way public and private insurers reimburse physicians and hospitals. They want a new payment method that rewards prevention and the effective control of chronic disease, instead of the current system, which pays according to the quantity of care provided. By late spring, the commission is expected to recommend such a system to the legislature.


Alan Sager, a professor of health policy at Boston University, has calculated that health spending per person in Massachusetts increased faster than the national average in seven of the last eight years. Furthermore, he said, the gap has grown exponentially, with Massachusetts now spending about a third more per person, up from 23 percent in 1980.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/16/health/policy/16mass.html?_r=1
Skyrocketing Massachusetts health costs could foreshadow high price of ObamaCare published: 03/23/2010

Like the bill that President Obama signed on Sunday, the 2006 Massachusetts plan was sold to voters on the now-familiar promise that it would reduce costs and lower unnecessary emergency room visits. That’s not what happened.

Since the bill became law, the state’s total direct health-care spending has increased by a remarkable 52 percent. Medicaid spending has gone from less than $6 billion a year to more the $9 billion. Many consumers have seen double-digit percentage increases in their premiums.

Even more striking, the 2006 law has done little to ease the burden on emergency rooms, a central goal of all heath care reform plans. A report by the Boston Globe found that in the first two years of the program, the state’s ER costs actually rose by 17 percent. “They said that ER visits would drop by 75 percent, and it hasn’t been even close to that,” said State Treasurer Tim Cahill, who is currently running for governor as an Independent. “It hasn’t changed people’s habits. It hasn’t been successful at getting people to use less expensive alternatives.”

see Boston Globe article on Rising ER Costs and Visits: ER visits, costs in Mass. climb - The Boston Globe


Read more: Skyrocketing Massachusetts health costs could foreshadow high price of ObamaCare | The Daily Caller
Oh, notice how I also included liberal news articles, like the Boston Globe and the New York Times in the research (hardly right wing /slanted/ bias here)
 
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The Massachusetts reforms in 2006 were about expanding insurance coverage. The ACA goes further than that by beginning to implement actual health care reform.

The doctors in this piece don't seem to be complaining about the coverage expansion per se. They seem primarily upset about the crackdown on what they charitably call "impropriety" on the part of some physicians, and the move toward holding doctors and other providers accountable for the quality of their work.

It's not that it doesn't make sense or it isn't understandable. Who among us, if they didn't have a job where their pay reflected their performance and where they could dip into the cookie jar from time to time with limited fear of reprisal, would want that to change?

Problem is, it's a bad deal for the rest of us.
 

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