Official USMB What is a Wall? Why a Wall?

[Bush92]

Just how in the hell do you know that??????
Did somebody from capital hill tell you that? Was he/she a politician?
Sheesh, I get tired of that old narrative....."say it enough and it will become the truth."

Here’s the Reality About Illegal Immigrants in the United States
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How in hell do you know this is even true?
We don't know how many people have come over here, we don't know how they came over here. Something like 11-22 million illegals in the US.
That is quite a spread because WE DON'T KNOW.
Bulldog, do some critical thinking and just don't believe it because it's your party saying it.

If we know none of those things, why do you think we need a wall?

Because the experts say we do

-Geaux

The experts also said that most illegals come ports of entry. No emergency for that ?

Shut down the whole ******* border.

 

[Geaux4it]

The native Americans should've built a wall too.

Why didn’t they?

They were to liquored up

-Geaux

Dont worry their bloodline is taking over slowly...qlmost every major city now has a majority Latinos. .

And thats a good thing?

-Geaux

 

[Issa]

The native Americans should've built a wall too.

Why didn’t they?

They trusted the savages.

Conquered by a superior civilization.

Civilization ? lol you mean bunch of rejects and convicts from Europe ?

 

[Issa]

Here’s the Reality About Illegal Immigrants in the United States
View attachment 239556

How in hell do you know this is even true?
We don't know how many people have come over here, we don't know how they came over here. Something like 11-22 million illegals in the US.
That is quite a spread because WE DON'T KNOW.
Bulldog, do some critical thinking and just don't believe it because it's your party saying it.

If we know none of those things, why do you think we need a wall?

Because the experts say we do

-Geaux

The experts also said that most illegals come ports of entry. No emergency for that ?

Shut down the whole ******* border.

No it is not gonna happen to sit down and keep quite.

 

[Issa]

The native Americans should've built a wall too.

Why didn’t they?

They were to liquored up

-Geaux

Dont worry their bloodline is taking over slowly...qlmost every major city now has a majority Latinos. .

And thats a good thing?

-Geaux

Very...good food, good family values, respectful and no mass shooting.

 

[Bush92]

The native Americans should've built a wall too.

Why didn’t they?

They were to liquored up

-Geaux

Dont worry their bloodline is taking over slowly...qlmost every major city now has a majority Latinos. .

Yep. Democratic Party America’s largest racist organization. Sure, let Latinos run the country. We would end up like Central American banana Republics. Coup and counter revolution. Corruption and dictatorship.

 

[Bush92]

The native Americans should've built a wall too.

Why didn’t they?

They were to liquored up

-Geaux

Dont worry their bloodline is taking over slowly...qlmost every major city now has a majority Latinos. .

And thats a good thing?

-Geaux

Very...good food, good family values, respectful and no mass shooting.

Drugs, violence, gangs.

 

[Bush92]

The native Americans should've built a wall too.

Why didn’t they?

They were to liquored up

-Geaux

Dont worry their bloodline is taking over slowly...qlmost every major city now has a majority Latinos. .

And thats a good thing?

-Geaux

Very...good food, good family values, respectful and no mass shooting.

Orange houses with fluorescent green shutters.

 

[toomuchtime_]

this cannot be correct

I mean, we know that in addition to being immoral, walls just don't work

this has to be an inflated number, has CNN fact checked this yet?

Jim? Where ya at boy?

Border Patrol Official in South Texas: 96% of Our Migrant Traffic Occurs Where There's No Fencing

quote:
Acting Chief of the Rio Grande Valley Sector Raul Ortiz, who met with President Trump Thursday, told Hegseth that his agents patrol a western and eastern corridor in South Texas. Ortiz said the western side accounts for 96 percent of foot traffic, since there is no fencing.

On the eastern side, fencing exists and only 4 percent of traffic occurs there, he explained. Ortiz said the eastern side was the busiest area in the country for illegal crossings in the 1990s, before fencing was added.

In fact, walls do work,and in particular,smart fences such as the President wants work spectacularly well. What doesn't work for anyone who has taken the trouble to research the issue is the cock and bull story the Democrats are telling about other options that will work better. The smart fence the President is demanding will be bristling with sensors and cameras that will send the exact location of any attempt to breach the fence or damage it, allowing the Border Patrol to immediately act to intercept the perpetrators.

We know for a fact this smart fence will prevent illegals from crossing our southern border because it is based on the design of the smart fence Israel built along its border with Sinai. Before the Israeli smart fence was completed in December 2013, tens of thousands of Africans crossed that border illegally despite robust patrols by the IDF and Border Police, but since it was completed no one has entered Israel illegally across that border.

There are no other options for ending illegal immigration across our southern border than the smart fence the President is demanding and the Democrats are opposing, so it is fair to say that by opposing the smart fence the Democrats are facilitating illegal immigration into the US and all the suffering both Americans and the illegals and their families must endure.

 

[dcbl]

The native Americans should've built a wall too.

Why didn’t they?

They were to liquored up

-Geaux

I've got a great deal for YOU!

I will give you this AWESOME bottle of fire water, along with a few trinkets and mirrors

YOU can give me this crappy little island, we'll call it Manhattan!

 

[Bush92]

this cannot be correct

I mean, we know that in addition to being immoral, walls just don't work

this has to be an inflated number, has CNN fact checked this yet?

Jim? Where ya at boy?

Border Patrol Official in South Texas: 96% of Our Migrant Traffic Occurs Where There's No Fencing

quote:
Acting Chief of the Rio Grande Valley Sector Raul Ortiz, who met with President Trump Thursday, told Hegseth that his agents patrol a western and eastern corridor in South Texas. Ortiz said the western side accounts for 96 percent of foot traffic, since there is no fencing.

On the eastern side, fencing exists and only 4 percent of traffic occurs there, he explained. Ortiz said the eastern side was the busiest area in the country for illegal crossings in the 1990s, before fencing was added.

In fact, walls do work,and in particular,smart fences such as the President wants work spectacularly well. What doesn't work for anyone who has taken the trouble to research the issue is the cock and bull story the Democrats are telling about other options that will work better. The smart fence the President is demanding will be bristling with sensors and cameras that will send the exact location of any attempt to breach the fence or damage it, allowing the Border Patrol to immediately act to intercept the perpetrators.

We know for a fact this smart fence will prevent illegals from crossing our southern border because it is based on the design of the smart fence Israel built along its border with Sinai. Before the Israeli smart fence was completed in December 2013, tens of thousands of Africans crossed that border illegally despite robust patrols by the IDF and Border Police, but since it was completed no one has entered Israel illegally across that border.

There are no other options for ending illegal immigration across our southern border than the smart fence the President is demanding and the Democrats are opposing, so it is fair to say that by opposing the smart fence the Democrats are facilitating illegal immigration into the US and all the suffering both Americans and the illegals and their families must endure.

Smart fence = Apache attack helicopters.

 

[Moonglow]

Why didn’t they?

They were to liquored up

-Geaux

Dont worry their bloodline is taking over slowly...qlmost every major city now has a majority Latinos. .

And thats a good thing?

-Geaux

Very...good food, good family values, respectful and no mass shooting.

Orange houses with fluorescent green shutters.

Purple and orange sound better..or yellow,,,polka dots..

 

[Bush92]

The native Americans should've built a wall too.

Why didn’t they?

They trusted the savages.

Conquered by a superior civilization.

Civilization ? lol you mean bunch of rejects and convicts from Europe ?

Rejects and convicts conquered the New World.

 

[Slade3200]

Yes, the partisan team players fight hard for their team and it is destructive especially when they get off the substance and start lying and hyperbolizing everything. The Dems are brutal and play the race card, woman card, minority card etc way too much. The Right likes to jump right to Venezuela and socialism and open borders with everything. At some point we all need to grow the hell up and debate issues honestly.

We have tens of millions of illegals living in this country.


If we do not have an "open border" it is close enough that quibbling over semantics is not what we should be wasting time on.


BUILD THE WALL, DEPORT THE ILLEGALS, **** THE EMPLOYERS, AND LET'S LIMIT THE DAMAGE TO THE NATION AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.


Which probably isn't much.

Do you know how many people cross the border through ground, air and sea every day? You gotta look at the big picture and how many people do cross to come here for both travel and for work. Consider all it takes to process that. We spend a ton of resources to manage that extraordinary amount of traffic to make our country as safe as possible. Yes we can do better. But No, we do not have open borders, not even close.

The Big Picture is the tens of millions of people have entered our country, either illegally, or legally and then overstayed.


That is a huge problem, and a violation of the rights of Americans to decide who to invite to join our community.

Agreed. I’ve never denied that. But we don’t have open borders, not even close. And we obviously have different policy ideas on how to beat address the problem as do all the clowns in Washington. I’m curious though, why is the majority of your focus on the Wall, when the majority of drugs and illegals are coming in through ports of entry? That’s where you lose me with your argument.

If you agree it is a huge problem, and a violation of the rights of Americans to decide who to invite to join our society,


then any disagreement you have about "open border" is a matter of minor semantics.


My "focus" is on the Wall, for that is the current issue of discussion.


Be assured that Trump will not be judged solely on whether or not the Wall is built, but on the overall effect his administration has on the horrific immigration situation.

I go after the “open border” claim because it is a dishonest talking point being used to discredit liberals and it is counterproductive to efficient discussion.

The issue is border security, not the wall. The wall is how Trump wants to do it. The counter argument is that the majority of illegals and drugs come here through ports of entry so that should be our focus.

Trumps hyperbole, propaganda or whatever you want to call it around the wall has turned it into a racial, xenophobic and an American values issue for many of his opponents so it makes it near impossible for them to support. That’s what happens when you pour fuel on the fires of hate and division.

That’s the political reality. Now if you are really interested in helping the immigration and border problem you would focus on the best solutions, not just the ones the media is talking about. Something can get done in the ports of entry where the bulk of the issues are. Why not focus on that instead of the wall?

 

[BULLDOG]

Here’s the Reality About Illegal Immigrants in the United States
View attachment 239556

How in hell do you know this is even true?
We don't know how many people have come over here, we don't know how they came over here. Something like 11-22 million illegals in the US.
That is quite a spread because WE DON'T KNOW.
Bulldog, do some critical thinking and just don't believe it because it's your party saying it.

If we know none of those things, why do you think we need a wall?

We have somewhere between 11-22 million illegals here, a lot on the government teet.

So what is a wall gonna do about the ones here?

That can always be addressed, post wall/barrier/fence.

Yet you site that as an excuse for a wall. Make up your mind.

 

[BULLDOG]

Perhaps the majority of migrant traffic in a relatively small section of the border that has no normal points of entry do come across where there is no barrier, but that doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of all migrant traffic comes through normal points of entry. A wall in those remote areas will stop few compared to other strategies to reduce immigrant traffic.

Just how in the hell do you know that??????
Did somebody from capital hill tell you that? Was he/she a politician?
Sheesh, I get tired of that old narrative....."say it enough and it will become the truth."

Here’s the Reality About Illegal Immigrants in the United States
View attachment 239556

How in hell do you know this is even true?
We don't know how many people have come over here, we don't know how they came over here. Something like 11-22 million illegals in the US.
That is quite a spread because WE DON'T KNOW.
Bulldog, do some critical thinking and just don't believe it because it's your party saying it.

If we know none of those things, why do you think we need a wall?

Because the experts say we do

-Geaux

Experts like Trump who lies every time he opens his mouth?

 

[basquebromance]

immigration is a privilege, not a right, and the safety of Americans should come first, without question!

 

[eagle1462010]

To make it worse, those evil racist border security agents at the border say that they want a wall.

It's simple really, In areas where we don't have a wall, we'll just install a corn maze into which illegal migrants will enter, become confused and then exit somewhere back into Juarez. Not only will that be not immoral, it will also be kinda fun.

Only problem...........No water..........LOL

 

[basquebromance]

If I understand this correctly, I'm supposed to be concerned that 800,000 Government workers aren't getting a paycheck today... It bothers me, but not nearly as much as the thousands of families that won't be getting a call from a loved one today. *Files Nails

 

[TheDude]

this cannot be correct

I mean, we know that in addition to being immoral, walls just don't work

this has to be an inflated number, has CNN fact checked this yet?

Jim? Where ya at boy?

Border Patrol Official in South Texas: 96% of Our Migrant Traffic Occurs Where There's No Fencing

quote:
Acting Chief of the Rio Grande Valley Sector Raul Ortiz, who met with President Trump Thursday, told Hegseth that his agents patrol a western and eastern corridor in South Texas. Ortiz said the western side accounts for 96 percent of foot traffic, since there is no fencing.

On the eastern side, fencing exists and only 4 percent of traffic occurs there, he explained. Ortiz said the eastern side was the busiest area in the country for illegal crossings in the 1990s, before fencing was added.

What area are you talking about . Cause fenses are fine where needed . But you have areas along this 1900 mile border where no one is creeping across .

Fences Timmy, fences. Say Timmy, can you explain why fence good, wall bad? To date nobody has explained why fences are cool, while walls are immoral and racist. But I figure you're smart (cough), so here's your chance