Official Thread for Denial of GreenHouse Effect and Radiative Physics.

[Crick]

So you think Dr Ott has refuted the greenhouse effect?

 

[jc456]

So you think Dr Ott has refuted the greenhouse effect?

refutes CO2 affects temperature

 

[Crick]

refutes CO2 affects temperature

So, do you believe he has refuted the greenhouse effect or that CO2 is a greenhouse gas? What he's done is assume that all the world's scientists are flat-earthers. He claims to have refuted the greenhouse effect. Do you agree with him? Do you think there is no greenhouse effect?

 

[jc456]

So, do you believe he has refuted the greenhouse effect or that CO2 is a greenhouse gas? What he's done is assume that all the world's scientists are flat-earthers. He claims to have refuted the greenhouse effect. Do you agree with him? Do you think there is no greenhouse effect?

I believe CO2 absorbs IR and reemits, it doesn't warm a damn thing

 

[Crick]

I believe CO2 absorbs IR and reemits, it doesn't warm a damn thing

Then you don't believe in the greenhouse effect. Too bad you've only got fruitcakes with you on that bus.

CO2 can transfer the IR energy it absorbs to other materials through radiation, conduction and convection. What do you think will prevent that?

 

[jc456]

Then you don't believe in the greenhouse effect. Too bad you've only got fruitcakes with you on that bus.

CO2 can transfer the IR energy it absorbs to other materials through radiation, conduction and convection. What do you think will prevent that?

Not at any more energy than it received! So nothing gets warmer.

It also radiates to space

 

[Crick]

Not at any more energy than it received! So nothing gets warmer.

It also radiates to space

Did you think the greenhouse effect was claiming that CO2 was increasing the energy of the photons it absorbed?

 

[jc456]

Did you think the greenhouse effect was claiming that CO2 was increasing the energy of the photons it absorbed?

Exactly what is being said

 

[Crick]

Not at any more energy than it received! So nothing gets warmer.

It also radiates to space

It also radiates, conducts and convects TO THE EARTH'S SURFACE.

 

[Crick]

Exactly what is being said

No one has ever said that. Ever heard of the conservation of energy? It's one of those basics.

 

[Stryder50]

Then you don't believe in the greenhouse effect. Too bad you've only got fruitcakes with you on that bus.

CO2 can transfer the IR energy it absorbs to other materials through radiation, conduction and convection. What do you think will prevent that?

Numbers you IDIOT! ("will prevent that")

Learn some basic math.
Then learn some basic science.

CO2 in the dry part of the Earth's atmosphere is one part of 2,500 (400ppm = 400/1,000,000). Hence one part of CO2 will not transfer equally and fully to the other 2,499 parts of Nitrogen, Oxygen, Argon, etc. It will be barely able to transfer a portion of it's "heat" to one other part, leaving 2,498 parts unaffected by it.

Ignorant idiots like you are a danger to humanity and our future.

 

[Stryder50]

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[jc456]

It also radiates, conducts and convects TO THE EARTH'S SURFACE.

Not all it absorbs, because half radiates to space! So how can it warm the surface?

 

[Crick]

Not all it absorbs, because half radiates to space! So how can it warm the surface?

Jesus dude. Almost every erg of IR energy bouncing around those CO2 molecules came FROM the surface of the planet. If ANY of it returns to the surface, the surface's temperature will increase.

Has it never occurred to you that your grasp of basic science is... weak?

 

[jc456]

Jesus dude. Almost every erg of IR energy bouncing around those CO2 molecules came FROM the surface of the planet. If ANY of it returns to the surface, the surface's temperature will increase

Nope

 

[Crick]

Nope

So, how does a blanket keep you warm at night?

 

[ding]

So, how does a blanket keep you warm at night?

Not by increasing water vapor and claiming that is 2 to 3 times the heat transfer choking effect of the blanket.

 

[Crick]

Not by increasing water vapor and claiming that is 2 to 3 times the heat transfer choking effect of the blanket.

Strawman.

The query was aimed at jc456. Would you like to stand in for him? If so, please explain how a blanket keeps you warm at night. And we don't need to know what it doesn't do, we need to know what it does.

 

[jc456]

So, how does a blanket keep you warm at night?

my body temperature doesn't go up. But why one stays warm under a blanket is because we radiate at 98 degrees which is most often 20 degrees warmer than the room temperature, and the blanket doesn't allow my body heat to escape into the abyss with a blanket on. I don't get warmer. too funny. The fact you correlate a blanket to CO2 is hilarious, a blanket is a physical covering.

 

[ding]

Strawman.

The query was aimed at jc456. Would you like to stand in for him? If so, please explain how a blanket keeps you warm at night. And we don't need to know what it doesn't do, we need to know what it does.

Not a straw-man at all. And this is a public forum. I understand how greenhouse gases work and have no problem with the radiative forcing of CO2. It's the feedback their models produce that supposedly multiply that effect buy 200% to 300% that I find ridiculous.