Official Impeachment Thread 2.0: House Judiciary Committee Hearings

[Slade3200]

You’d whine if you were in Turkish Jail and under Turkish Law and were denied your Civil Rights and Due Process.

Is there a bigger whiner in Congress than Jim Jordan?! I’ve never heard a grown up yell and rant and whine and complain as much as this guy! Maxine Waters is a close second but Jim takes the cake!

Yeah I probably would... so what?

 

[JGalt]

Goddamn how low can Dem's stoop attacking a 13 year old kid WTF??

When the facts are not in your favor, facts are that Trump actions warrant impeachment, you look for some issue to get away from the truth.

What she said was you can name your child Barron but you cannot appoint him a baron. A euphemism about we have a democrfact not a monarchy. It is about a name not anything to do with characteristics of young Barron.

The poor kid has had his father talking about grabbing women by the *****, about his father cheating on his mother, about having sex with a porn star. Donald Trump should start acting like a respectable father for Barron's sake. He then would, also, be a better President.

Can you imagine how hysterical the media would be right now, if that was said about one of Michelle Obama's kids?


A minor child deserves privacy and should be kept out of politics. Pamela Karlan, you should be ashamed of your very angry and obviously biased public pandering, and using a child to do it.

Melania Trump (@FLOTUS) December 4, 2019

I agree that any personal information about minor children of politicians is out of bounds. But a play on words using the child's name is hardly anything to get upset about.
How do you feel Barron was harmed or insulted by the words?

Well it's pretty obvious that he was, seeing as how Karlan saw it fit to apologize...

Pamela Karlan: "I want to apologize for what I said earlier about the president's son. It was wrong of me to do that. I wish the president would apologize, obviously, for the things that he's done that's wrong, but I do regret having said that." pic.twitter.com/7lYiRWCKjw

CSPAN (@cspan) December 4, 2019

Apology NOT accepted. There's no taking that back the cat's out of the bag, this is who these asshole Dem's are. Vile disgusting creeps. Take a good long look America, lowlife Dem's who attack the first lady's child.

I agree. The First Lady has alot of class but I'm not as forgiving as she is.

 

[Nostra]

He clearly said the case was weak and wrong.

Please try to keep up.

No he didn’t. He said that bribery was wrong and that they didn’t have enough proof to back up the accusations. He thinks the White House witnessed should testify and the process should not be rushed. Try and be more accurate

Yes, he did. Why lie about it when his testimony is posted?

Show me the quote where he said it was wrong. I missed it

You miss a lot. It isn't my responsibility to hold your hand.

I don’t need my hand held. I was just asking you to back up your claims. Appears that you can’t do so.

It isn't my responsibility to educate the ignorant.

Get someone else to hold your hand, Dummy

 

[Ame®icano]

Listen to this liberal Trump hater Pam Karlan....you can hear her hatred with every word that comes out of her pie hole.....

She hates Trump so much that she crosses street to avoid walking by his hotel.

Watch, forward to 19 minutes plus.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Goddamn how low can Dem's stoop attacking a 13 year old kid WTF??

When the facts are not in your favor, facts are that Trump actions warrant impeachment, you look for some issue to get away from the truth.

What she said was you can name your child Barron but you cannot appoint him a baron. A euphemism about we have a democrfact not a monarchy. It is about a name not anything to do with characteristics of young Barron.

The poor kid has had his father talking about grabbing women by the *****, about his father cheating on his mother, about having sex with a porn star. Donald Trump should start acting like a respectable father for Barron's sake. He then would, also, be a better President.

Can you imagine how hysterical the media would be right now, if that was said about one of Michelle Obama's kids?


A minor child deserves privacy and should be kept out of politics. Pamela Karlan, you should be ashamed of your very angry and obviously biased public pandering, and using a child to do it.

Melania Trump (@FLOTUS) December 4, 2019

The first lady ***** slaps disgusting House Dem's for attacking her child.

She should ***** slap her husband for having sex with a porn star while she was home with their 1 year old child, and for having a year long affair with a Playboy playmate and much more.

But those things are OK by the godless, immoral Trump supporters.

 

[BluesLegend]

Worst Apology Ever.

Goddamn how low can Dem's stoop attacking a 13 year old kid WTF??

When the facts are not in your favor, facts are that Trump actions warrant impeachment, you look for some issue to get away from the truth.

What she said was you can name your child Barron but you cannot appoint him a baron. A euphemism about we have a democrfact not a monarchy. It is about a name not anything to do with characteristics of young Barron.

The poor kid has had his father talking about grabbing women by the *****, about his father cheating on his mother, about having sex with a porn star. Donald Trump should start acting like a respectable father for Barron's sake. He then would, also, be a better President.

Can you imagine how hysterical the media would be right now, if that was said about one of Michelle Obama's kids?


A minor child deserves privacy and should be kept out of politics. Pamela Karlan, you should be ashamed of your very angry and obviously biased public pandering, and using a child to do it.

Melania Trump (@FLOTUS) December 4, 2019

I agree that any personal information about minor children of politicians is out of bounds. But a play on words using the child's name is hardly anything to get upset about.
How do you feel Barron was harmed or insulted by the words?

Well it's pretty obvious that he was, seeing as how Karlan saw it fit to apologize...

Pamela Karlan: "I want to apologize for what I said earlier about the president's son. It was wrong of me to do that. I wish the president would apologize, obviously, for the things that he's done that's wrong, but I do regret having said that." pic.twitter.com/7lYiRWCKjw

CSPAN (@cspan) December 4, 2019

It wasn't an apology.

 

[The Original Tree]

You were already ***** slapped on your lies about Due Process. Did you come back for more abuse Commie Tard?

He clearly said the case was weak and wrong.

Please try to keep up.

No he didn’t. He said that bribery was wrong and that they didn’t have enough proof to back up the accusations. He thinks the White House witnessed should testify and the process should not be rushed. Try and be more accurate

Yes, he did. Why lie about it when his testimony is posted?

Show me the quote where he said it was wrong. I missed it

You miss a lot. It isn't my responsibility to hold your hand.

I don’t need my hand held. I was just asking you to back up your claims. Appears that you can’t do so.

 

[Slade3200]

The only case Trump has is proving that his initiative to investigate the Biden’s was in the interest of the country and not his political campaign. So if this goes to the senate it becomes all about the Bidens as far as the Reps focus.

Worse than that, Slade. As the accused, it isn't up to Trump to prove a thing. The burden of proof is 100% on the Democrats to prove their accusation that Trump's inquiry into Ukraine corruption, Burisma and the Bidens was totally for his personal election benefit! And they will have to SHOW the benefit, not merely claim or surmise it.

AND GUESS WHAT?

If it goes to the Senate, there WILL be 1000X more attention and focus on the Bidens to Trump's benefit than Trump's mere inquiry over a phone call EVER could have produced!

SO GUESS WHAT?
If the Democrats were counting on Biden as their candidate, Nancy and Sluggo just TOOK HIM OUT OF THE RUNNING!

You’re right Trump doesn’t need to do anything. I’m framing the debate and the issue boils down to... did the Biden investigation serve Trump or the USA. That’s what this whole thing is about.

 

[BluesLegend]

When the facts are not in your favor, facts are that Trump actions warrant impeachment, you look for some issue to get away from the truth.

What she said was you can name your child Barron but you cannot appoint him a baron. A euphemism about we have a democrfact not a monarchy. It is about a name not anything to do with characteristics of young Barron.

The poor kid has had his father talking about grabbing women by the *****, about his father cheating on his mother, about having sex with a porn star. Donald Trump should start acting like a respectable father for Barron's sake. He then would, also, be a better President.

Can you imagine how hysterical the media would be right now, if that was said about one of Michelle Obama's kids?


A minor child deserves privacy and should be kept out of politics. Pamela Karlan, you should be ashamed of your very angry and obviously biased public pandering, and using a child to do it.

Melania Trump (@FLOTUS) December 4, 2019

I agree that any personal information about minor children of politicians is out of bounds. But a play on words using the child's name is hardly anything to get upset about.
How do you feel Barron was harmed or insulted by the words?

Well it's pretty obvious that he was, seeing as how Karlan saw it fit to apologize...

Pamela Karlan: "I want to apologize for what I said earlier about the president's son. It was wrong of me to do that. I wish the president would apologize, obviously, for the things that he's done that's wrong, but I do regret having said that." pic.twitter.com/7lYiRWCKjw

CSPAN (@cspan) December 4, 2019

Apology NOT accepted. There's no taking that back the cat's out of the bag, this is who these asshole Dem's are. Vile disgusting creeps. Take a good long look America, lowlife Dem's who attack the first lady's child.

I agree. The First Lady has alot of class but I'm not as forgiving as she is.

Dem's laughed, then 1,000 GOP strategists saved the video for 2020 campaign ads and they stopped laughing.

 

[The Original Tree]

No it wasn’t. She used her fake apology to attack The President.

Worst Apology Ever.

When the facts are not in your favor, facts are that Trump actions warrant impeachment, you look for some issue to get away from the truth.

What she said was you can name your child Barron but you cannot appoint him a baron. A euphemism about we have a democrfact not a monarchy. It is about a name not anything to do with characteristics of young Barron.

The poor kid has had his father talking about grabbing women by the *****, about his father cheating on his mother, about having sex with a porn star. Donald Trump should start acting like a respectable father for Barron's sake. He then would, also, be a better President.

Can you imagine how hysterical the media would be right now, if that was said about one of Michelle Obama's kids?


A minor child deserves privacy and should be kept out of politics. Pamela Karlan, you should be ashamed of your very angry and obviously biased public pandering, and using a child to do it.

Melania Trump (@FLOTUS) December 4, 2019

I agree that any personal information about minor children of politicians is out of bounds. But a play on words using the child's name is hardly anything to get upset about.
How do you feel Barron was harmed or insulted by the words?

Well it's pretty obvious that he was, seeing as how Karlan saw it fit to apologize...

Pamela Karlan: "I want to apologize for what I said earlier about the president's son. It was wrong of me to do that. I wish the president would apologize, obviously, for the things that he's done that's wrong, but I do regret having said that." pic.twitter.com/7lYiRWCKjw

CSPAN (@cspan) December 4, 2019

It wasn't an apology.

 

[BluesLegend]

The only case Trump has is proving that his initiative to investigate the Biden’s was in the interest of the country and not his political campaign. So if this goes to the senate it becomes all about the Bidens as far as the Reps focus.

Worse than that, Slade. As the accused, it isn't up to Trump to prove a thing. The burden of proof is 100% on the Democrats to prove their accusation that Trump's inquiry into Ukraine corruption, Burisma and the Bidens was totally for his personal election benefit! And they will have to SHOW the benefit, not merely claim or surmise it.

AND GUESS WHAT?

If it goes to the Senate, there WILL be 1000X more attention and focus on the Bidens to Trump's benefit than Trump's mere inquiry over a phone call EVER could have produced!

SO GUESS WHAT?
If the Democrats were counting on Biden as their candidate, Nancy and Sluggo just TOOK HIM OUT OF THE RUNNING!

You’re right Trump doesn’t need to do anything. I’m framing the debate and the issue boils down to... did the Biden investigation serve Trump or the USA. That’s what this whole thing is about.

Wrong. The president has an obligation to investigate corruption involving taxpayer money even if it happens to have been committed by some Dem running in 2020. Does Biden get a pass on breaking the law because he's running for office?? Is Biden above the law because he's a 2020 Dem candidate?? I'd shred the Dem's into coleslaw arguing this in front of the SCOTUS.

 

[Slade3200]

No he didn’t. He said that bribery was wrong and that they didn’t have enough proof to back up the accusations. He thinks the White House witnessed should testify and the process should not be rushed. Try and be more accurate

Yes, he did. Why lie about it when his testimony is posted?

Show me the quote where he said it was wrong. I missed it

You miss a lot. It isn't my responsibility to hold your hand.

I don’t need my hand held. I was just asking you to back up your claims. Appears that you can’t do so.

It isn't my responsibility to educate the ignorant.

Get someone else to hold your hand, Dummy

Ok this is a fun game. I just heard him Jordan whisper on a hot mic that “Trump so fucked”

what do you think about that?

 

[JGalt]

Collins is taking them to school. Those stuck up academic freaks have been acting all day as if there were some proof of a "crime."

He's calling for Schiff to testify.

 

[BluesLegend]

Goddamn how low can Dem's stoop attacking a 13 year old kid WTF??

When the facts are not in your favor, facts are that Trump actions warrant impeachment, you look for some issue to get away from the truth.

What she said was you can name your child Barron but you cannot appoint him a baron. A euphemism about we have a democrfact not a monarchy. It is about a name not anything to do with characteristics of young Barron.

The poor kid has had his father talking about grabbing women by the *****, about his father cheating on his mother, about having sex with a porn star. Donald Trump should start acting like a respectable father for Barron's sake. He then would, also, be a better President.

Can you imagine how hysterical the media would be right now, if that was said about one of Michelle Obama's kids?


A minor child deserves privacy and should be kept out of politics. Pamela Karlan, you should be ashamed of your very angry and obviously biased public pandering, and using a child to do it.

Melania Trump (@FLOTUS) December 4, 2019

The first lady ***** slaps disgusting House Dem's for attacking her child.

She should ***** slap her husband for having sex with a porn star while she was home with their 1 year old child, and for having a year long affair with a Playboy playmate and much more.

But those things are OK by the godless, immoral Trump supporters.

You are deflecting with troll posts, stay on topic.

 

[The Original Tree]

This is what:

Anyone that is honest will agree that these are illegal hearings that no one can be made to participate in, and therefore Subpoenas to appear before any committees which do not guarantee DUE PROCESS are invalid.

Procedural due process

Procedural due process requires government officials to follow fair procedures before depriving a person of life, liberty, or property.[25]:657 When the government seeks to deprive a person of one of those interests, procedural due process requires the government to afford the person, at minimum, notice, an opportunity to be heard, and a decision made by a neutral decisionmaker.

This protection extends to all government proceedings that can result in an individual's deprivation, whether civil or criminal in nature, from parole violation hearings to administrative hearings regarding government benefits and entitlements to full-blown criminal trials.

• An unbiased tribunal.

• Notice of the proposed action and the grounds asserted for it.

• Opportunity to present reasons why the proposed action should not be taken.

• The right to present evidence, including the right to call witnesses.

• The right to know opposing evidence.

• The right to cross-examine adverse witnesses.

• A decision based exclusively on the evidence presented.

• Opportunity to be represented by counsel.

• Requirement that the tribunal prepares a record of the evidence presented.

• Requirement that the tribunal prepares written findings of fact and reasons for its decision.

Due Process Clause - Wikipedia

You’d whine if you were in Turkish Jail and under Turkish Law and were denied your Civil Rights and Due Process.

Is there a bigger whiner in Congress than Jim Jordan?! I’ve never heard a grown up yell and rant and whine and complain as much as this guy! Maxine Waters is a close second but Jim takes the cake!

Yeah I probably would... so what?

 

[BluesLegend]

No it wasn’t. She used her fake apology to attack The President.

Worst Apology Ever.

Can you imagine how hysterical the media would be right now, if that was said about one of Michelle Obama's kids?


A minor child deserves privacy and should be kept out of politics. Pamela Karlan, you should be ashamed of your very angry and obviously biased public pandering, and using a child to do it.

Melania Trump (@FLOTUS) December 4, 2019

I agree that any personal information about minor children of politicians is out of bounds. But a play on words using the child's name is hardly anything to get upset about.
How do you feel Barron was harmed or insulted by the words?

Well it's pretty obvious that he was, seeing as how Karlan saw it fit to apologize...

Pamela Karlan: "I want to apologize for what I said earlier about the president's son. It was wrong of me to do that. I wish the president would apologize, obviously, for the things that he's done that's wrong, but I do regret having said that." pic.twitter.com/7lYiRWCKjw

CSPAN (@cspan) December 4, 2019

It wasn't an apology.

Exposing herself as a blatant biased left wing partisan. A show of hands, who want's that creep teaching kids?

 

[MAGAman]

Well it's pretty obvious that he was, seeing as how Karlan saw it fit to apologize...

Pamela Karlan: "I want to apologize for what I said earlier about the president's son. It was wrong of me to do that. I wish the president would apologize, obviously, for the things that he's done that's wrong, but I do regret having said that." pic.twitter.com/7lYiRWCKjw

CSPAN (@cspan) December 4, 2019

this was a planned action. That screeching banshee wasn't speaking off the cuff.

 

[Nostra]

Yes, he did. Why lie about it when his testimony is posted?

Show me the quote where he said it was wrong. I missed it

You miss a lot. It isn't my responsibility to hold your hand.

I don’t need my hand held. I was just asking you to back up your claims. Appears that you can’t do so.

It isn't my responsibility to educate the ignorant.

Get someone else to hold your hand, Dummy

Ok this is a fun game. I just heard him Jordan whisper on a hot mic that “Trump so fucked”

what do you think about that?

Cool.

 

[BluesLegend]

Well it's pretty obvious that he was, seeing as how Karlan saw it fit to apologize...

Pamela Karlan: "I want to apologize for what I said earlier about the president's son. It was wrong of me to do that. I wish the president would apologize, obviously, for the things that he's done that's wrong, but I do regret having said that." pic.twitter.com/7lYiRWCKjw

CSPAN (@cspan) December 4, 2019

this was a planned action. That screeching banshee wasn't speaking off the cuff.

That was scripted for sure. Which speaks to premeditated intent and how phony her apology is. This blew up in her face now she's shitting her pants.

 

[Olde Europe]

Watching a recorded version of the hearing and Bucks line of questioning. He asked Turley if the other three panelists would consider a list of other acts that other presidents did as an abuse of power under the same standards they are holding on Trump. The other three panelists were siting right there but instead of questioning them he just went off on his own rant pushing his narrative and using Turley as a nodding bobble head .... that was the most pathetic line of questioning I’ve seen yet.

the questions were actually good but he was too scared to actually question the people sitting right in front of him. #Weak

Pathetic, wasn't it? Turley was visibly uncomfortable. Sadly, he didn't find it in himself to retort, "With all due respect, Congressman, my esteemed colleagues are sitting right here, right next to me. So, if you want to hear their opinion on the matters you inquired, why not ask them? I'd also be interested in hearing them out."

Well, just as pathetic was the Democrats' determined effort to ignore Turley. Apparently there was just one with the guts to take him on, at least so far. In my view, they are doing this hearing a great disservice. Personally, I find Turley thoroughly disingenuous in his arguments, and would have loved to see them picked apart. So, they chose to let stand, basically unopposed, the charge there's a thin basis for impeachment, which would be further marred by lack of evidence. Disconcerting, that.