Official Coronavirus Thread - Up to the minute Coronavirus map and count.

[Fort Fun Indiana]

That isn't happening. so, I don't buy the I have it but have no symptom cop out.

But people without symptoms have tested positive. The facts Trump your gut feelings.

 

[Flopper]

New York and New Jersey are at 10,500 new cases combined.

They are 60% of deaths.

They are just getting creamed.

The thinking is the East coast wasn't as careful due to their governors, but it's going to hit the other states, eventually. Trump is like a thermometer as he's backing off on what he said now. The shutdown was about shelter in place or lockdown, i.e. quarantine and sanitation or try to save the economy. Some people here still believe it's not as serious. There's still that debate, but the confirmed cases point to a different direction -- more deaths.

you don't know that at all. irresponsible dude.

Yes, I do. It's based on what has happened in Italy, Spain, China, and more; it's based on knowing how COVID-19 works and how it has stressed our medical system. We are behind flattening the curve. I posted a video on it from the doctors since your type won't believe other Pubs like me and how the virus does not know about our borders. I suppose you know how COVID-19 kills us now. A couple of days ago, this surgeon released another vid on why the numbers will go up. Watch it instead of getting your news in sound bites.

You know how it works? You know more than the experts

I know how the statistics work and learned how COVID-19 kills people as I said two days ago. What is happening in some places are that the deaths are overwhelming the medical staff. That means people with serious conditions get sent home with an oxygen tank. Also, more people die.

California should follow the East coast cities, but maybe we got shelter in place earlier and people, for the most part, stayed in. I dunno. The media hyped up the people who went to the parks and beaches over last weekend and to the rural areas to visit or stay in their vacation places. What does it mean? It means more people catch it and more people die.

I don't think just because you're young that you won't die. You stand a better chance of living, but you could also catch it again and then you'll have an underlying condition. We've seen people who had only a mild case, but there were those who had more severe cases, too. The numbers should all eventually fit into a bell curve. What we want to do is flatten the rate of people getting it or else the medical people in place get overwhelmed. Then, it's a disaster. We already had one with the testing, and even that's still not in place in California. Thus, people have it and are spreading it without knowing it.

The best thing to do is quarantine and sanitation, but even then COVID-19 cases will spread. The whole of US is trending up. It will take some time for quarantine to work and then we'll see the numbers go down. However, right now both confirmed cases and deaths will go up. It's just a matter of time so quarantine and sanitation will eventually take effect and the numbers start to trend down. It seems like you think that this isn't the case and for some reason it will be okay where you are. It may be, but that's not likely. We should all fit the bell curve eventually. Maybe your area will be lucky and not overwhelm the medical staff. However, no one knows that.

The news that there are a lot of people, possible 25% that have been infected and show no symptoms is both good and bad. It's unnerving to think that your neighbor or a family member may have the virus with no symptoms but it is also encouraging that a large and increasing number of people are becoming immune to the virus. This means they could go back to work or school without spreading the virus. The higher the immunity the less transmission of the virus.

funny, we all are living with our families, and if anyone actually had the infection and not showing symptoms, would eventually give it to other members of the family they are living with. That isn't happening. so, I don't buy the I have it but have no symptom cop out. Anything to scare the populous into longer rights violations. THAT IS THE LEFTIST TACTIC.

No so. There are plenty of cases of family members infecting other members of the family. The claim that 25% of the cases have no symptoms comes actually testing date; that is 25% of those that test positive do not show any symptoms. Couple that with the fact that we have an abnormal number of investigated cases that with no known contact showing symptoms. There is certainly good evidence that a large percent of population contracts the virus without showing symptoms. Whether that evidence holds won't be know for years.

Actually where comprehensive testing has been done, irrespective of whether testees were showing symptoms or not, it's been found that up to half (50%) of those infected, i.e. having the virus inhabit them, showed no symptoms. So as long as testing in a given area is limited to only those with symptoms, it's going to miss up to half the silent carriers, who are then free to roam about spreading the virus to others. Iceland's testing found this to be the case, and in fact this town in Italy wiped it out by doing just that -- testing everybody and then isolating the silent carriers they found.

Without doing that there's no effective way to control it, resulting in the isolation/cancellation measures we have, which can only slow it down.

Testing is the answer. In my area, Trump's statement about getting tested if you need it is pure bullshit. My neighbor had the symptoms and he called the hospital and they refereed him to his family doctor who told he would have to have an appointment which would be two weeks out so he contacted his pulmonologist who faxed an order to a lab setup in a tent on the other side town. Unfortunately, they were short on kits and closed early. He return the next day and they weren't open. So he call his doctor to get the order sent to another lab who had test kits. However, they had run out of personal protection supplies. So they made him an appointment 3 days later. I ask him yesterday if he got his test. He said, he gave up.

The country is just incredible unprepared for this shit.

 

[Flopper]

France is having a terrible day.

1355 deaths so far. That's a 34% increase in their death total just today.

Curse socialist healthcare.

New York's Andrew Cuomo decries 'eBay'-style bidding war for ventilators

The state is in a race against time to secure enough breathing machines for coronavirus patients – just as the governor’s brother has tested positive

www.theguardian.com

Not sure our system is working too well for New York.

New York City has a population density of 26,403 people per square mile, making it the most densely populated city in the US. And Manhattan has a population density of 66,940 people per square mile.

 

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[excalibur]

James Dyson designed a new ventilator in 10 days. He's making 15,000 for the pandemic fight - KXLY

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www.kxly.com

 

[excalibur]

Texas 'mom and pop' business flooded with orders for helmet-style ventilation device

Sea-Long Medical Systems has drawn huge interest from hospitals and foreign countries seeking alternatives in treating COVID-19 patients amid a ventilator shortage.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[XponentialChaos]

France is having a terrible day.

1355 deaths so far. That's a 34% increase in their death total just today.

Curse socialist healthcare.

New York's Andrew Cuomo decries 'eBay'-style bidding war for ventilators

The state is in a race against time to secure enough breathing machines for coronavirus patients – just as the governor’s brother has tested positive

www.theguardian.com

Not sure our system is working too well for New York.

New York City has a population density of 26,403 people per square mile, making it the most densely populated city in the US. And Manhattan has a population density of 66,940 people per square mile.

I'm aware of that.

I don't think a bidding system for ventillators is working too well for them at the moment.

 

[Weatherman2020]

France is having a terrible day.

1355 deaths so far. That's a 34% increase in their death total just today.

Curse socialist healthcare.

New York's Andrew Cuomo decries 'eBay'-style bidding war for ventilators

The state is in a race against time to secure enough breathing machines for coronavirus patients – just as the governor’s brother has tested positive

www.theguardian.com

Not sure our system is working too well for New York.

New York is run by Democrats. Synonymous with Socialist.

 

[XponentialChaos]

France is having a terrible day.

1355 deaths so far. That's a 34% increase in their death total just today.

Curse socialist healthcare.

New York's Andrew Cuomo decries 'eBay'-style bidding war for ventilators

The state is in a race against time to secure enough breathing machines for coronavirus patients – just as the governor’s brother has tested positive

www.theguardian.com

Not sure our system is working too well for New York.

New York is run by Democrats. Synonymous with Socialist.

What aspects of their healthcare policies would you consider socialist?

Bidding for ventilators?

 

[excalibur]

Ventilator Prototype Created in Illinois as State's Coronavirus Cases Surge

The Illinois RapidVent prototype is designed to plug into the oxygen source available in most hospital rooms or to a standard tank of oxygen and help COVID-19 patients with breathing issues.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Weatherman2020]

Ventilator Prototype Created in Illinois as State's Coronavirus Cases Surge

The Illinois RapidVent prototype is designed to plug into the oxygen source available in most hospital rooms or to a standard tank of oxygen and help COVID-19 patients with breathing issues.

www.newsweek.com

Normally a device like that takes 5 years of red tape before approval.

God Bless Trump and his scissors.

 

[Pogo]

France is having a terrible day.

1355 deaths so far. That's a 34% increase in their death total just today.

Curse socialist healthcare.

New York's Andrew Cuomo decries 'eBay'-style bidding war for ventilators

The state is in a race against time to secure enough breathing machines for coronavirus patients – just as the governor’s brother has tested positive

www.theguardian.com

Not sure our system is working too well for New York.

New York is run by Democrats. Synonymous with Socialist.

Yeah I'm sure there's a "socialist" way to decide what day this or that neighborhood gets its garbage picked up or when it's time to run the snowplows.

The obtuse density in this place never ceases to amaze.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

How many times do I need to say:

I didn't listen to them (meaning I never tuned into anything they said). I don't watch the pressers...I don't follow him.

When this first started, I looked at it and made my own judgements.

Sorry to break it to you.......

I work in a world where all the "experts" tend to default to the worst case. I saw this the same way (and still believe we could have done some things differently).

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Yea, right.

You're a Trump humper and you expect me to believe that you don't tune in to what he says. Really dude? You can repeat that as many times as you like, but you'll be full of shit each and every time you try.

Well, I am not going to defend his statement.

I think I know what he was doing.

But it is just a guess on my part.

Ambiguity creates more angst than bad news. I believe (again, guessing) he was addressing that.

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And yet there you are, eating right out of Trump's palm, agreeing with his stupid fucking idea to have churches packed on Easter Sunday.

Pretty impressive for you to independently come to the exact same conclusions as the guy you worship without listening to a word he says. What a coincidence!

It's a bit surprising, but you've turned out to have TDS full on.

Hope you can get some help.

It sounds like you are the one who is licking his master's ass.

 

[XponentialChaos]

It's a bit surprising, but you've turned out to have TDS full on.

Hope you can get some help.

It sounds like you are the one who is licking his master's ass.

Just pointing out the fact that you've fallen in-line with all of Trump's bullshit. You can try to deny that, but it's there.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Italy continues to show a slow decline in cases and deaths. Not every day is better...but things appear to be O.K.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Hopefully we can stay below 1,000 deaths today. But I'm not optimistic.

It'll probably end up right around there.

968 deaths by my count. Not good.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

It's a bit surprising, but you've turned out to have TDS full on.

Hope you can get some help.

It sounds like you are the one who is licking his master's ass.

Just pointing out the fact that you've fallen in-line with all of Trump's bullshit. You can try to deny that, but it's there.

And I've told you what I do.

You, having now gone full on left wing, know better and you've convinced yourself you are right.

Enjoy it.

Your TDS has rendered you full of shit.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Spain also appears to have leveled off in cases.

The rate of increase in deaths has slowed to where they are almost level.

Bad news, people are dying.

Good news, not as many.

Looking for a silver lining.

 

[XponentialChaos]

It's a bit surprising, but you've turned out to have TDS full on.

Hope you can get some help.

It sounds like you are the one who is licking his master's ass.

Just pointing out the fact that you've fallen in-line with all of Trump's bullshit. You can try to deny that, but it's there.

And I've told you what I do.

You, having now gone full on left wing, know better and you've convinced yourself you are right.

Enjoy it.

Your TDS has rendered you full of shit.

Yea, you've stated that you came up with your bullshit thoughts independently of Trump, which happen to agree with him. I've shown you that that's complete bullshit.

Go ahead and say it some more. It's still bullshit. Repeat yourself all you want. Still bullshit.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

It's a bit surprising, but you've turned out to have TDS full on.

Hope you can get some help.

It sounds like you are the one who is licking his master's ass.

Just pointing out the fact that you've fallen in-line with all of Trump's bullshit. You can try to deny that, but it's there.

And I've told you what I do.

You, having now gone full on left wing, know better and you've convinced yourself you are right.

Enjoy it.

Your TDS has rendered you full of shit.

Yea, you've stated that you came up with your bullshit thoughts independently of Trump, which happen to agree with him. I've shown you that that's complete bullshit.

Go ahead and say it some more. It's still bullshit. Repeat yourself all you want. Still bullshit.

You have not show a fucking thing.

What is with your sorry ass.

Oh yeah...forgot you are a left winger.....you just know.

Fuck you and Fuck off.