Of course the FBI under counts armed citizens using their guns against mass public shooters.....

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This article looks at the FBI under counting the times Americans use their legal guns to defend against mass public shooters...

Evidence compiled by the organization I run, the Crime Prevention Research Center, and others suggest that the FBI undercounts by an order of more than three the number of instances in which armed citizens have thwarted such attacks, saving untold numbers of lives. Although those many news stories about the Greenwood shooting also suggested that the defensive use of guns might endanger others, there is no evidence that these acts have harmed innocent victims.
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The FBI defines active shooter incidents as those in which an individual actively engages in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated, public area. But it does not include those it deems related to other criminal activity, such as a robbery or fighting over drug turf.


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The Bureau reports that only 11 of the 252 active shooter incidents it identified for the period 2014-2021 were stopped by an armed citizen.
An analysis by my organization identified a total of 281 active shooter incidents during that same period and found that 41 of them were stopped by an armed citizen.
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That is, the FBI reported that 4.4% of active shooter incidents were thwarted by armed citizens, while the CPRC found 14.6%.

.Two factors explain this discrepancy – one, misclassified shootings; and two, overlooked incidents. Regarding the former, the CPRC determined that the FBI reports had misclassified five shootings: In two incidents the Bureau notes in its detailed write-up that citizens possessing valid firearms permits confronted the shooters and caused them to flee the scene. However, these cases were not listed as being stopped by armed citizens because the attackers were later apprehended by police. In two other incidents the FBI misidentified armed civilians as armed security personnel. In one incident, the FBI simply failed to mention the citizen engagement at all.



 
This article looks at the FBI under counting the times Americans use their legal guns to defend against mass public shooters...

Evidence compiled by the organization I run, the Crime Prevention Research Center, and others suggest that the FBI undercounts by an order of more than three the number of instances in which armed citizens have thwarted such attacks, saving untold numbers of lives. Although those many news stories about the Greenwood shooting also suggested that the defensive use of guns might endanger others, there is no evidence that these acts have harmed innocent victims.
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The FBI defines active shooter incidents as those in which an individual actively engages in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated, public area. But it does not include those it deems related to other criminal activity, such as a robbery or fighting over drug turf.


.

The Bureau reports that only 11 of the 252 active shooter incidents it identified for the period 2014-2021 were stopped by an armed citizen.
An analysis by my organization identified a total of 281 active shooter incidents during that same period and found that 41 of them were stopped by an armed citizen.
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That is, the FBI reported that 4.4% of active shooter incidents were thwarted by armed citizens, while the CPRC found 14.6%.

.Two factors explain this discrepancy – one, misclassified shootings; and two, overlooked incidents. Regarding the former, the CPRC determined that the FBI reports had misclassified five shootings: In two incidents the Bureau notes in its detailed write-up that citizens possessing valid firearms permits confronted the shooters and caused them to flee the scene. However, these cases were not listed as being stopped by armed citizens because the attackers were later apprehended by police. In two other incidents the FBI misidentified armed civilians as armed security personnel. In one incident, the FBI simply failed to mention the citizen engagement at all.



It's hard to undercount something that already barely happens. They must be working hard.
 
This article looks at the FBI under counting the times Americans use their legal guns to defend against mass public shooters...

Evidence compiled by the organization I run, the Crime Prevention Research Center, and others suggest that the FBI undercounts by an order of more than three the number of instances in which armed citizens have thwarted such attacks, saving untold numbers of lives. Although those many news stories about the Greenwood shooting also suggested that the defensive use of guns might endanger others, there is no evidence that these acts have harmed innocent victims.
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The FBI defines active shooter incidents as those in which an individual actively engages in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated, public area. But it does not include those it deems related to other criminal activity, such as a robbery or fighting over drug turf.


.

The Bureau reports that only 11 of the 252 active shooter incidents it identified for the period 2014-2021 were stopped by an armed citizen.
An analysis by my organization identified a total of 281 active shooter incidents during that same period and found that 41 of them were stopped by an armed citizen.
----

That is, the FBI reported that 4.4% of active shooter incidents were thwarted by armed citizens, while the CPRC found 14.6%.

.Two factors explain this discrepancy – one, misclassified shootings; and two, overlooked incidents. Regarding the former, the CPRC determined that the FBI reports had misclassified five shootings: In two incidents the Bureau notes in its detailed write-up that citizens possessing valid firearms permits confronted the shooters and caused them to flee the scene. However, these cases were not listed as being stopped by armed citizens because the attackers were later apprehended by police. In two other incidents the FBI misidentified armed civilians as armed security personnel. In one incident, the FBI simply failed to mention the citizen engagement at all.



I love the line at the bottom of your siggy. A variation of the original, but it fits perfectly.
 
Many people who shoot or kill in self defense may plead with the police to release as little information about them to the public as possible....which is very reasonable considering it may open them to retaliation from gangs and blacklisting by prospective employers, etc. Most sane people would not be proud of it they would just see it as something necessary that they'd rather put behind them.
 
Too many kids killed by guns being moved into the graveyard to make whistling enjoyable




We agree. Why do you insist on making it easier for violent scumbags to murder children?
 
Too many kids killed by guns being moved into the graveyard to make whistling enjoyable


You mean the majority of those "kids," are 17-19 year old gang members shot by rival gang members over drug turf......sell that B.S. to joe biden voters......

Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop rapes. robberies, murders, beatings, stabbings and even mass public shootings....according to the Centers for Disease Control...........
 
You mean the majority of those "kids," are 17-19 year old gang members shot by rival gang members over drug turf......sell that B.S. to joe biden voters......

Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop rapes. robberies, murders, beatings, stabbings and even mass public shootings....according to the Centers for Disease Control...........
I'm always amused at the intensity of your gun fetish
 
This article looks at the FBI under counting the times Americans use their legal guns to defend against mass public shooters...

Evidence compiled by the organization I run, the Crime Prevention Research Center, and others suggest that the FBI undercounts by an order of more than three the number of instances in which armed citizens have thwarted such attacks, saving untold numbers of lives. Although those many news stories about the Greenwood shooting also suggested that the defensive use of guns might endanger others, there is no evidence that these acts have harmed innocent victims.
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The FBI defines active shooter incidents as those in which an individual actively engages in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated, public area. But it does not include those it deems related to other criminal activity, such as a robbery or fighting over drug turf.


.

The Bureau reports that only 11 of the 252 active shooter incidents it identified for the period 2014-2021 were stopped by an armed citizen.
An analysis by my organization identified a total of 281 active shooter incidents during that same period and found that 41 of them were stopped by an armed citizen.
----

That is, the FBI reported that 4.4% of active shooter incidents were thwarted by armed citizens, while the CPRC found 14.6%.

.Two factors explain this discrepancy – one, misclassified shootings; and two, overlooked incidents. Regarding the former, the CPRC determined that the FBI reports had misclassified five shootings: In two incidents the Bureau notes in its detailed write-up that citizens possessing valid firearms permits confronted the shooters and caused them to flee the scene. However, these cases were not listed as being stopped by armed citizens because the attackers were later apprehended by police. In two other incidents the FBI misidentified armed civilians as armed security personnel. In one incident, the FBI simply failed to mention the citizen engagement at all.



The FBI has become a serious tool of the Reich. Needs to be destroyed.
 
Too many kids killed by guns being moved into the graveyard to make whistling enjoyable
Most of them killed by left wing lunatics. But nothing about the millions of children killed in utero. I see. You need your dead children to be of a certain age before you will acknowledge them.

PS -- After the RvW decision, the churches in my area that mourned the murder of unborn babies were finally able to take down the blue and pink crosses they erected on their grounds and rejoice that we live in a state where no more innocents will be slaughtered.

Another PS -- No school children have ever been shot in my state because it can be assumed that everyone you meet is capable of neutralizing you if you tried.
 
I hate that death and savagery sexually arouse you. The 21st century has been a century of war crimes and needless slaughters for the U.S. Social conservatism has fueled that. That's what I hate.




You revel in the murder of children, that's why you insist on their being in gun free zone, where law abiders are disarmed, but the scumbags you love can kill at will.
 
I hate that death and savagery sexually arouse you. The 21st century has been a century of war crimes and needless slaughters for the U.S. Social conservatism has fueled that. That's what I hate.


Oh.....I think you wanted to post that in the humor section....since it is just silly and stupid........

The only ones who get sexually aroused are the anti-gun fanatics here on U.S.messageboard who start talking about penises whenever we talk about guns....exposing.....their damaged psycho/sexual responses.....and the need for advanced psychiatric help so they don't eventually hurt themselves.....

The 20th century was all the socialists........ since 1917, your buddy socialists murdered close to, if not well over, 200 million innocent men, women and children.......and much of the time after they took away their guns on the promise that giving up those guns would make them safer.....

You are the problem.....
 
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Oh.....I think you wanted to post that in the humor section....since it is just silly and stupid........

The only ones who get sexually aroused are the anti-gun fanatics here on U.S.messageboard who start talking about penises whenever we talk about guns....exposing.....their damaged psycho/sexual responses.....and the need for advanced psychiatric help so they don't eventually hurt themselves.....

The 20th century was all the socialists........ since 1917, you buddy socialists murdered close to, if not well over, 200 million innocent men, women and children.......and much of the time after they took away their guns on the promise that giving up those guns would make them safer.....

You are the problem.....
:rolleyes:
 

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