Obesity is NOT beautiful! :(

[ChrisL]

I will add this as well...the fact is that I am called icky and stared at all the time. I have severe Rheumatoid Arthritis and my fingers are bent in ways I will let you only imagine. I walk slow and oddly and sometimes have to use a walker so when I come here to post I find stimulation in the fact that others judge me upon my ideas, unique opinions and conversation. The avi I display has a deep meaning of do not judge a book by its cover and she has been told that. She has body shamed me as well as done her best to judge and degrade me for my religious beliefs boasting she has none so is exempt from criticism. If someone is not a Pats fan then apparently they have no worth either. I have a somewhat biased opinion regarding that team but no more than anyone else who isn't a fan of their team. The point is that there has not been one forum that I have been a part of where she does not form an opinion and start swinging a figurative sword at everyone else trying to slash them for not wholeheartedly agreeing. That isn't a discussion. That is a dictatorship. I believe most people have agreed that obesity in America is an issue of importance in regard to health, so what else is there to argue? Even people who agree (which I did on that point) were bashed over the head and told they were not INVITED to the conversation. I am not a mod of course but I sure would like to know what constitutes someone being banned

Put some fucking clothes on. Gee whiz.

 

[ChrisL]

Anyway, the bottom line is that obesity is NOT beautiful. There is nothing "beautiful" about it. You might know a beautiful person who is obese, but it is certainly NOT their obesity that makes them beautiful. So quit throwing temper tantrums and grow the fuck up.

 

[BluePhantom]

I have not read all of the comments but I find this an interesting topic coming from someone who bashes other women for being in great shape and showing it. Basically it is a matter of whoever isn't the OP in this discussion is out of shape and lazy but last I saw she had the most posts registered on USMB for the month. Most other people do not spend their lives on here like that. I do agree that sadly most kids are given processed and fast food which has a lot of calories but little nutrition and many kids live in apartments where riding a bike or doing something active is not supported or encouraged so kids have nothing to do but be on the computer and eat. When parents ARE home they are tired from working and do not make the well balanced healthy meals I had as a kid. Even those meals that were considered healthy then would not be so now because the amount of exercise and activity kids and adults alike get now is greatly diminished from what it was 30+ years ago. When I grew up it was still in an era where moms stayed home and dads worked so meals were made, houses were clean, and kids were looked after. That dynamic is a rare thing today.

If anyone has bashed anyone, it has been you doing the bashing and then turning around and claiming to be a Christian. I simply told you that I think it is disrespectful to your husband to run around on a forum in your underwear, and it's weird . . . because it is weird for a married woman who claims to be a Christian to do that shit whether you want to admit that or not. Sorry if you are a strange . . . person. Lol. Sure there is a reason why you keep your face hidden too.

Well Chris, I am Trinity's husband and I will be the judge of what I find disrespectful, not you. If I had a problem with it do you think I would allow it to continue? You have balls the size of coconuts telling my wife what she can and cannot do on my behalf or what is or is not respectful to me. I will make that call on my own, thank you very fucking much.

Nope, sorry but I'm entitled to MY opinion on such things, and to me that would be VERY disrespectful.

Yes you are entitled to your opinion...and I am equally as entitled to tell you to shove your opinion up your ass. I don't care if it would be disrespectful to you. You are not me, thus your opinion becomes totally irrelevant. You know, Chris, you bitch about Christian self-righteousness and rail on those who have the audacity to speak on behalf of God, but here you are in this thread being ever bit as self-righteous and presuming to speak on my behalf.

Who do you think you are that your own rules don't apply to you? Did you take masters level course in "behavioral hypocrisy"? I am starting to think you might be able to teach them.

And I don't care if you don't like MY opinion on this or any other matter. If I was married, I would NEVER do that to my husband. That is just how it is. I'm speaking on my own behalf in that I find it to be disrespectful.

"To" me? What exactly is she doing "to" me, Chris? She asked my feelings on using it before she did and I said I support her decision completely. I can assure you that had I been uncomfortable with it, she would not be using it. How extraordinarily judgmental of you...are you sure you are not a fundamentalist Christian after all? You sure have similar DNA

 

[TrinityPower]

I will add this as well...the fact is that I am called icky and stared at all the time. I have severe Rheumatoid Arthritis and my fingers are bent in ways I will let you only imagine. I walk slow and oddly and sometimes have to use a walker so when I come here to post I find stimulation in the fact that others judge me upon my ideas, unique opinions and conversation. The avi I display has a deep meaning of do not judge a book by its cover and she has been told that. She has body shamed me as well as done her best to judge and degrade me for my religious beliefs boasting she has none so is exempt from criticism. If someone is not a Pats fan then apparently they have no worth either. I have a somewhat biased opinion regarding that team but no more than anyone else who isn't a fan of their team. The point is that there has not been one forum that I have been a part of where she does not form an opinion and start swinging a figurative sword at everyone else trying to slash them for not wholeheartedly agreeing. That isn't a discussion. That is a dictatorship. I believe most people have agreed that obesity in America is an issue of importance in regard to health, so what else is there to argue? Even people who agree (which I did on that point) were bashed over the head and told they were not INVITED to the conversation. I am not a mod of course but I sure would like to know what constitutes someone being banned

Oh shut up! I think you are crazy.

 

[BluePhantom]

I will add this as well...the fact is that I am called icky and stared at all the time. I have severe Rheumatoid Arthritis and my fingers are bent in ways I will let you only imagine. I walk slow and oddly and sometimes have to use a walker so when I come here to post I find stimulation in the fact that others judge me upon my ideas, unique opinions and conversation. The avi I display has a deep meaning of do not judge a book by its cover and she has been told that. She has body shamed me as well as done her best to judge and degrade me for my religious beliefs boasting she has none so is exempt from criticism.

I want to follow up on this. I wasn't going to but since Trinity brought it up I will. Her RA is indeed severe and has disfigured many parts of her body. When we first met she was very self-conscious of her body as a result. She was shy, afraid, had no self-confidence, and believed that no man would ever find her attractive. I did.

Throughout our relationship it has been a journey wherein I have encouraged her to see that despite her disease she has nothing to be ashamed of. As a result, over the years, this shy, timid girl with no self-confidence has blossomed into a strong, independent, confident woman who is comfortable with her physical appearance.

There is nothing disrespectful to me about her avi. Quite the contrary, I see it as an example of how far she has come in developing her self-confidence and overcoming the social stigma associated with disfigurement due to her disease. This is not Trinity's reason for using that avi. Her reason is what she stated, but this is why I support her avi 100% and why there is nothing disrespectful about it.

As a woman, who is surely aware of the ideals and stereotypes of female beauty that society thrusts upon us through media and advertising, Chris should be standing in applause of Trinity for refusing to allow social conditioning regarding physical appearance to define her. I deem it shameful for a woman to attempt to force another woman into the stereotypical mold of physical attractiveness. I find it even more disturbing that it has to be a man who points that out to her.

 

[Coyote]

I don't see any problem with the Avi and in another thread, when you explained the reasons behind it - I applaud it. It's no more "scandelous" than an avi showing a very low cut off the shoulder top.

Making fun of a person's body is little more than Jr. High cruelty and it does little to solve the problem.

I'm not obese and I'm not super thin either, but I've struggled with weight. When I was in my 20's, I had an eating disorder and was pretty thin. Currently I exercise by running - but that is as much for the anti-depressant benefits as for body. I do know, that when I'm depressed I tend to eat more, not want to do things and have little motivation, and then feel even worse about my body and it turns into a self perpetuating cycle that I always have to fight. I certainly don't need other people's disgust heaped upon my own - that is demotivating. I can't imagine I am unique in that either. So what is there to truly gain by heaping that on fat people? They know they are fat. They've probably tried and failed many times at losing weight. You aren't telling them anything they don't know.

Funny how you seem to feel a need to "explain" yourself. The thread is not about you. Okay? The thread is about the problem of obesity in our society.

Now, do you want to discuss that or continue to behave as if you are in junior high?

You've pretty much indicated that you are stuck in Jr. High by this response and your utter failure to understand what is being said.

 

[Coyote]

Anyway, the bottom line is that obesity is NOT beautiful. There is nothing "beautiful" about it. You might know a beautiful person who is obese, but it is certainly NOT their obesity that makes them beautiful. So quit throwing temper tantrums and grow the fuck up.

Yes. That would be a good idea. Give it a try.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Know what's even less beautiful than obesity? Fit people hating on less-fit people.

 

[ChrisL]

Know what's even less beautiful than obesity? Fit people hating on less-fit people.

Oh well. I guess you should stay away from threads you don't like. I guess you'll have to go cry or something. The fact of the matter is, obesity is NOT beautiful and also moving into the number 1 killer spot of Americans. Duh.

 

[ChrisL]

If anyone has bashed anyone, it has been you doing the bashing and then turning around and claiming to be a Christian. I simply told you that I think it is disrespectful to your husband to run around on a forum in your underwear, and it's weird . . . because it is weird for a married woman who claims to be a Christian to do that shit whether you want to admit that or not. Sorry if you are a strange . . . person. Lol. Sure there is a reason why you keep your face hidden too.

Well Chris, I am Trinity's husband and I will be the judge of what I find disrespectful, not you. If I had a problem with it do you think I would allow it to continue? You have balls the size of coconuts telling my wife what she can and cannot do on my behalf or what is or is not respectful to me. I will make that call on my own, thank you very fucking much.

Nope, sorry but I'm entitled to MY opinion on such things, and to me that would be VERY disrespectful.

Yes you are entitled to your opinion...and I am equally as entitled to tell you to shove your opinion up your ass. I don't care if it would be disrespectful to you. You are not me, thus your opinion becomes totally irrelevant. You know, Chris, you bitch about Christian self-righteousness and rail on those who have the audacity to speak on behalf of God, but here you are in this thread being ever bit as self-righteous and presuming to speak on my behalf.

Who do you think you are that your own rules don't apply to you? Did you take masters level course in "behavioral hypocrisy"? I am starting to think you might be able to teach them.

And I don't care if you don't like MY opinion on this or any other matter. If I was married, I would NEVER do that to my husband. That is just how it is. I'm speaking on my own behalf in that I find it to be disrespectful.

"To" me? What exactly is she doing "to" me, Chris? She asked my feelings on using it before she did and I said I support her decision completely. I can assure you that had I been uncomfortable with it, she would not be using it. How extraordinarily judgmental of you...are you sure you are not a fundamentalist Christian after all? You sure have similar DNA

Look, I don't care. You and your wife are just strangers on the internet. I have no idea what makes either of you think I even care. I don't know. You are not a part of my life. This is the internet. I suggest you get a grip. Tell your wife not to start shit if she doesn't like it returned. Because that is what will happen.

I started this thread because I wanted to discuss the problems of obesity in America. Now, if you don't want to talk about that, I suggest you move on.

 

[ChrisL]

I don't see any problem with the Avi and in another thread, when you explained the reasons behind it - I applaud it. It's no more "scandelous" than an avi showing a very low cut off the shoulder top.

Making fun of a person's body is little more than Jr. High cruelty and it does little to solve the problem.

I'm not obese and I'm not super thin either, but I've struggled with weight. When I was in my 20's, I had an eating disorder and was pretty thin. Currently I exercise by running - but that is as much for the anti-depressant benefits as for body. I do know, that when I'm depressed I tend to eat more, not want to do things and have little motivation, and then feel even worse about my body and it turns into a self perpetuating cycle that I always have to fight. I certainly don't need other people's disgust heaped upon my own - that is demotivating. I can't imagine I am unique in that either. So what is there to truly gain by heaping that on fat people? They know they are fat. They've probably tried and failed many times at losing weight. You aren't telling them anything they don't know.

Funny how you seem to feel a need to "explain" yourself. The thread is not about you. Okay? The thread is about the problem of obesity in our society.

Now, do you want to discuss that or continue to behave as if you are in junior high?

You've pretty much indicated that you are stuck in Jr. High by this response and your utter failure to understand what is being said.

Um, I don't think so. You are the one freaking out and unable to have a logical discussion.

I want to discuss obesity. I do not find it beautiful. It is unhealthy horrible thing. That is all there is to it. Acknowledging that it is not beautiful or healthy is just honest. You should try that sometimes.

 

[ChrisL]

I take care of myself and my body. I'm not the one sitting on the couch letting myself go to shit. A little chubby is understandable. When you allow yourself to balloon out to 200/300 pounds or more, then that is inexcusable (unless you are a professional athlete - can't believe I have to clarify this shit for you tards). You have no one to blame but your stupid self.

 

[TrinityPower]

 

[Coyote]

I don't see any problem with the Avi and in another thread, when you explained the reasons behind it - I applaud it. It's no more "scandelous" than an avi showing a very low cut off the shoulder top.

Making fun of a person's body is little more than Jr. High cruelty and it does little to solve the problem.

I'm not obese and I'm not super thin either, but I've struggled with weight. When I was in my 20's, I had an eating disorder and was pretty thin. Currently I exercise by running - but that is as much for the anti-depressant benefits as for body. I do know, that when I'm depressed I tend to eat more, not want to do things and have little motivation, and then feel even worse about my body and it turns into a self perpetuating cycle that I always have to fight. I certainly don't need other people's disgust heaped upon my own - that is demotivating. I can't imagine I am unique in that either. So what is there to truly gain by heaping that on fat people? They know they are fat. They've probably tried and failed many times at losing weight. You aren't telling them anything they don't know.

Funny how you seem to feel a need to "explain" yourself. The thread is not about you. Okay? The thread is about the problem of obesity in our society.

Now, do you want to discuss that or continue to behave as if you are in junior high?

You've pretty much indicated that you are stuck in Jr. High by this response and your utter failure to understand what is being said.

Um, I don't think so. You are the one freaking out and unable to have a logical discussion.

I want to discuss obesity. I do not find it beautiful. It is unhealthy horrible thing. That is all there is to it. Acknowledging that it is not beautiful or healthy is just honest. You should try that sometimes.

Why do you keep saying people are "freaking out" when they are simply disagreeing with you? Can't you take disagreement? I've supported many of my posts with sources, and you seem to continually bring it back to "beauty" - something you seem obsessed with even to the point of attacking others's appearance.

No one is denying obesity is a serious health problem. But I don't hear anyone attacking the apperance of smokers, diabetics, cancer patients etc. Obesity seems to be a personal target for you.

And I'll go back to what I said earlier - I am sure many of these people don't feel good, are perfectly aware of their appearance, have probably tried and failed many times at diets, so what is your purpose in attacking them implying they are morally "less than" someone like you? Do you really think it will help them become less obese? Do you really think stripping a way a person's dignity or ability to feel good about themselves solves anything?

 

[Coyote]

I take care of myself and my body. I'm not the one sitting on the couch letting myself go to shit. A little chubby is understandable. When you allow yourself to balloon out to 200/300 pounds or more, then that is inexcusable (unless you are a professional athlete - can't believe I have to clarify this shit for you tards). You have no one to blame but your stupid self.

Is this one of your "logical" discussion?

 

[jillian]

I don't see any problem with the Avi and in another thread, when you explained the reasons behind it - I applaud it. It's no more "scandelous" than an avi showing a very low cut off the shoulder top.

Making fun of a person's body is little more than Jr. High cruelty and it does little to solve the problem.

I'm not obese and I'm not super thin either, but I've struggled with weight. When I was in my 20's, I had an eating disorder and was pretty thin. Currently I exercise by running - but that is as much for the anti-depressant benefits as for body. I do know, that when I'm depressed I tend to eat more, not want to do things and have little motivation, and then feel even worse about my body and it turns into a self perpetuating cycle that I always have to fight. I certainly don't need other people's disgust heaped upon my own - that is demotivating. I can't imagine I am unique in that either. So what is there to truly gain by heaping that on fat people? They know they are fat. They've probably tried and failed many times at losing weight. You aren't telling them anything they don't know.

Funny how you seem to feel a need to "explain" yourself. The thread is not about you. Okay? The thread is about the problem of obesity in our society.

Now, do you want to discuss that or continue to behave as if you are in junior high?

You've pretty much indicated that you are stuck in Jr. High by this response and your utter failure to understand what is being said.

Um, I don't think so. You are the one freaking out and unable to have a logical discussion.

I want to discuss obesity. I do not find it beautiful. It is unhealthy horrible thing. That is all there is to it. Acknowledging that it is not beautiful or healthy is just honest. You should try that sometimes.

Why do you keep saying people are "freaking out" when they are simply disagreeing with you? Can't you take disagreement? I've supported many of my posts with sources, and you seem to continually bring it back to "beauty" - something you seem obsessed with even to the point of attacking others's appearance.

No one is denying obesity is a serious health problem. But I don't hear anyone attacking the apperance of smokers, diabetics, cancer patients etc. Obesity seems to be a personal target for you.

And I'll go back to what I said earlier - I am sure many of these people don't feel good, are perfectly aware of their appearance, have probably tried and failed many times at diets, so what is your purpose in attacking them implying they are morally "less than" someone like you? Do you really think it will help them become less obese? Do you really think stripping a way a person's dignity or ability to feel good about themselves solves anything?

why are you still egging her on? lol.

she's clearly got issues.

 

[Bonzi]

Beauty is in the eye. There are men that are attracted to or have a fetish for overweight women (and, I'm sure vice versa .... )

that being said, being TOO overweight is certainly not healthy.... as an adult, that is your choice -

BUT, as a parent raising a child, I think you should try to keep your child as fit and healthy as possible. Because as a parent and should want what is best for your child, and it is your responsibility to do what is in their best interests

that's pretty much my thoughts on weight.

 

[L.K.Eder]

i don't even need to read 1 post in this thread to know that is full of protesting fatties. hahahaha

 

[Bonzi]

i don't even need to read 1 post in this thread to know that is full of protesting fatties. hahahaha

you should read it. That is not the case.... (well I don't really know that for sure but I know many of the participants are not fat at all... )

 

[BluePhantom]

Look, I don't care.

Well congratulations are in order as you have just self-identified the majority of your problem. You don't care. What does that say about you? Furthermore your insistence on attacking Trinity at every opportunity over her avi has generated some foundation for psychoanalysis. Personally, I find it quite satisfying indeed that you...a fully healthy woman...is threatened by the confident sexuality of a woman who is disfigured. What does that say about your own insecurities?

Is there a psychiatrist in the house....I think we can write a paper about this one.