Obesity is NOT beautiful! :(

[Alex.]

Most people who are morbidly obese don't want to be that way. If they can somehow find a way to feel good about themselves, then what the fuck - why not let them? What's it to you?

Because it can influence the decisions of others. Directly or indirectly.
It is called situation ethics.
We change the ethics to fit a current situation.
People, specifically Americans, are getting fatter and fatter. DId you even know that childhood Type 2 diabetes did not exist just two generations ago. It DID NOT EXIST.
So excusing, or providing praise, for extremely poor parenting choices is never right. No matter how feel good goody-goody it might seem.
It is a serious f*cking problem in this country, the last statistic I read clearly shows a 200% rise in childhood diabetes in just 5 years.
It is that f*cking serious.
But hey...let's ignore that and tell em they are beautiful.

ImawhatIseem: "But hey...let's ignore that and tell em they are beautiful."

That is a cop out and a poor excuse to fat shame and spew hateful remarks. That does not do any good either and may cause more problems for the targeted individual.

Who are YOU to talk? You make insults to individuals here ALL the time, pretty much consistently. Lol. You have NO room to talk about being nice or kind, because you are neither of those things.

ChrisL: "Who are YOU to talk?"

I am the person you called old and attacked me because I had a different opinion about a sports team than you did. I am the person who takes exception when you attack a poster because of their age and their body size/shape, without provocation I will add.

You are the person who is getting it back now, does not like it and cannot take it.

If this thread were solely about the health concerns of the obese I would agree with you wholeheartedly, but this is in part is your common practice of body/age shaming and I do take exception.

I see a person with a health concern I show compassion or in the very least tolerance and support. That is really who I am to talk.

Are you kidding me? Anyone can go to any thread that you have participated on and see your OWN personal attacks. Anyone can go to the Pats thread and see how you have attacked EVERYONE there in a personal way. Good grief, you are STUPID.

This is not the Pats thread.

Stick to the issues ChrisL

 

[ChrisL]

Anyhow, now that we have THAT out of the way, I have not personally attacked anyone for being fat. I am stating MY opinions on obesity. No, it is NOT an attractive physical attribute. I don't really CARE if you want to believe that it is. It is unhealthy and is one of America's BIGGEST killers. Fucking dunces.

 

[ChrisL]

Because it can influence the decisions of others. Directly or indirectly.
It is called situation ethics.
We change the ethics to fit a current situation.
People, specifically Americans, are getting fatter and fatter. DId you even know that childhood Type 2 diabetes did not exist just two generations ago. It DID NOT EXIST.
So excusing, or providing praise, for extremely poor parenting choices is never right. No matter how feel good goody-goody it might seem.
It is a serious f*cking problem in this country, the last statistic I read clearly shows a 200% rise in childhood diabetes in just 5 years.
It is that f*cking serious.
But hey...let's ignore that and tell em they are beautiful.

ImawhatIseem: "But hey...let's ignore that and tell em they are beautiful."

That is a cop out and a poor excuse to fat shame and spew hateful remarks. That does not do any good either and may cause more problems for the targeted individual.

Who are YOU to talk? You make insults to individuals here ALL the time, pretty much consistently. Lol. You have NO room to talk about being nice or kind, because you are neither of those things.

ChrisL: "Who are YOU to talk?"

I am the person you called old and attacked me because I had a different opinion about a sports team than you did. I am the person who takes exception when you attack a poster because of their age and their body size/shape, without provocation I will add.

You are the person who is getting it back now, does not like it and cannot take it.

If this thread were solely about the health concerns of the obese I would agree with you wholeheartedly, but this is in part is your common practice of body/age shaming and I do take exception.

I see a person with a health concern I show compassion or in the very least tolerance and support. That is really who I am to talk.

Are you kidding me? Anyone can go to any thread that you have participated on and see your OWN personal attacks. Anyone can go to the Pats thread and see how you have attacked EVERYONE there in a personal way. Good grief, you are STUPID.

This is not the Pats thread.

Stick to the issues ChrisL

IOW, I don't give two flying fucks about your opinions of me or my posts or anything else for that matter. Okay? So if you think you lecturing is going to do anything except make me dislike you even MORE, then you are a foolish person.

Also, you have made MULTIPLE personal attacks of your own here in this very thread. Attacking Turtle Dude who was sticking up for me because we are friends? I know you wish you could make everyone have a delusional hatred of me, but it is not going to happen. Now, have a nice fucking delusional life.

 

[Alex.]

Anyhow, now that we have THAT out of the way, I have not personally attacked anyone for being fat. I am stating MY opinions on obesity. No, it is NOT an attractive physical attribute. I don't really CARE if you want to believe that it is. It is unhealthy and is one of America's BIGGEST killers. Fucking dunces.

Chrisl: " I have not personally attacked anyone for being fat"

The OP >>>>"Obesity is NOT beautiful! "

btw I stated, "you attack a poster because of their age and their body size/shape" not as you stated for being "fat".

I am looking at the post right now where the person was pointing it out, I would post it here but this the your hate the obese thread

 

[G.T.]

Chill Chris. Its a Holiday today.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Wait...he is a Cheatriots fan...well that explains the ability to look past any wrong doing by anyone for any reason.

 

[Alex.]

Wait...he is a Cheatriots fan...well that explains the ability to look past any wrong doing by anyone for any reason.

I love it!!!! Does not get better than this.

Thank you for pointing out the above axiom.

 

[Coyote]

Most people who are morbidly obese don't want to be that way. If they can somehow find a way to feel good about themselves, then what the fuck - why not let them? What's it to you?

You are wrong. Doctors and other EXPERTS (not some crazed out douchebags on the internet), have determined that MOST obesity is due to overeating, poor choices and lack of physical activity.

How exactly does that prove I'm wrong???? And, more to the point - what is wrong with this: " If they can somehow find a way to feel good about themselves, then what the fuck - why not let them?"

By the way, I don't quote "crazed out douchebags on the internet".


What causes obesity?

The balance between calorie intake and energy expenditure determines a person's weight. If a person eats more calories than he or she burns (metabolizes), the person gains weight (the body will store the excess energy as fat). If a person eats fewer calories than he or she metabolizes, he or she will lose weight. Therefore the most common causes of obesity are overeating and physical inactivity. Ultimately, body weight is the result of genetics, metabolism, environment, behavior, and culture.

Psychological factors. For some people, emotions influence eating habits. Many people eat excessively in response to emotions such as boredom, sadness, stress, or anger. While most overweight people have no more psychological disturbances than normal weight people, about 30% of the people who seek treatment for serious weight problems have difficulties with binge eating.​

If they feel good about themselves, they might be better able to change things about themselves that they don't like. Shaming and degrading a person does not necessarily promote change for the better. Obesity at it's simplest, is the balance between energy intake and energy output - but that equation ignores the role of genetics, metabolism, psychology, environment and culture all of which make the issue one that resembles calculus rather than simple arithmetic. Human beings aren't robots.

From Harvard: Obesity Causes

Many factors influence body weight—genes, though the effect is small, and heredity is not destiny; prenatal and early life influences; poor diets; too much television watching; too little physical activity and sleep; and our food and physical activity environment.

What Tips the Scales Toward Excess Weight?

The causes of obesity are as varied as the people it affects.


At its most basic, of course, obesity results when someone regularly takes in more calories than needed. The body stores these excess calories as body fat, and over time the extra pounds add up. Eat fewer calories than the body burns, weight goes down. This equation can be deceptively simple, though, because it doesn’t account for the multitude of factors that affect what we eat, how much we exercise, and how our bodies process all this energy. A complex web surrounds a basic problem.


What are some of the factors that increase the risk of obesity?​

• Genes Are Not Destiny
• Prenatal and Postnatal Influences
• Unhealthy Diets
• Too Much Television, Too Little Activity, and Too Little Sleep
• Toxic Environment—Food and Physical Activity

Obesity and its causes have, in many ways, become woven into the fabric of our society. To successfully disentangle them will take a multifaceted approach that not only gives individuals the skills to make healthier choices but also sets in place policy and infrastructure that support those choices.
​

Chris - I actually agree with a lot of what you say. Where I have a problem is the sense of loathing I get from you towards fat people and the claim of laziness as a moral defiency. There is enough anti-fat bias and bigotry going on with out adding to it - and it does little to solve the very real problem and health issues of obesity, especially in children. You compare it to smoking, but smoking has nothing to do with body image and body image plays a very important role in our culture and what we "value" as is evident in your own posts - slim is beautiful, regardless of the human being inside that body.

If you want to really solve the problem - is attacking the individual going to do it? How about changing the cultural things that promote it? Schools have cut back on recess and free physical activity. Why has "cup stacking" become a "physical activity" or "exercise"? Michelle Obama tries to introduce healthy alternatives in our schools and gets slammed for it. Schools are chronically underfunded and get a portion of the profits from snack machines and soda machines, making it hard to not supply them. Schools are also the dumping ground for surplus food products due to subsidies and they usually aren't healthy. Encouraging activity can be challenging if your kids live in a neighborhood that is infested with crime or drugs and you are a parent who works, maybe two jobs. There are a lot of challenges to face in combating the problem and you don't start out by simply labeling them "loathful" and "lazy".

 

[TrinityPower]

I have not read all of the comments but I find this an interesting topic coming from someone who bashes other women for being in great shape and showing it. Basically it is a matter of whoever isn't the OP in this discussion is out of shape and lazy but last I saw she had the most posts registered on USMB for the month. Most other people do not spend their lives on here like that. I do agree that sadly most kids are given processed and fast food which has a lot of calories but little nutrition and many kids live in apartments where riding a bike or doing something active is not supported or encouraged so kids have nothing to do but be on the computer and eat. When parents ARE home they are tired from working and do not make the well balanced healthy meals I had as a kid. Even those meals that were considered healthy then would not be so now because the amount of exercise and activity kids and adults alike get now is greatly diminished from what it was 30+ years ago. When I grew up it was still in an era where moms stayed home and dads worked so meals were made, houses were clean, and kids were looked after. That dynamic is a rare thing today.

If anyone has bashed anyone, it has been you doing the bashing and then turning around and claiming to be a Christian. I simply told you that I think it is disrespectful to your husband to run around on a forum in your underwear, and it's weird . . . because it is weird for a married woman who claims to be a Christian to do that shit whether you want to admit that or not. Sorry if you are a strange . . . person. Lol. Sure there is a reason why you keep your face hidden too.

Well Chris, I am Trinity's husband and I will be the judge of what I find disrespectful, not you. If I had a problem with it do you think I would allow it to continue? You have balls the size of coconuts telling my wife what she can and cannot do on my behalf or what is or is not respectful to me. I will make that call on my own, thank you very fucking much.

Nope, sorry but I'm entitled to MY opinion on such things, and to me that would be VERY disrespectful.

Yes you are entitled to your opinion...and I am equally as entitled to tell you to shove your opinion up your ass. I don't care if it would be disrespectful to you. You are not me, thus your opinion becomes totally irrelevant. You know, Chris, you bitch about Christian self-righteousness and rail on those who have the audacity to speak on behalf of God, but here you are in this thread being ever bit as self-righteous and presuming to speak on my behalf.

Who do you think you are that your own rules don't apply to you? Did you take masters level course in "behavioral hypocrisy"? I am starting to think you might be able to teach them.

And I don't care if you don't like MY opinion on this or any other matter. If I was married, I would NEVER do that to my husband. That is just how it is. I'm speaking on my own behalf in that I find it to be disrespectful.

No you have attacked me about it many times and it is not stated "In my opinion..." and following your own mantra here...who really cares about your opinion? You state things as if they are fact and when someone actually gives you a fact especially about the topic of this thread it is disregarded and dismissed as opinion claiming only YOUR version of facts count. You have both admitted and refuted your statements when called to the carpet for them. Pick one path and stick with it. You are a trial attorney's dream witness to discredit.

Let's be honest here. The avi is neither obese or showing any more than one would see in a J.C Penny catalog. You have called me old and disgusting and icky. The real problem here is that anyone who isn't YOU doesn't measure up. I am not the only one you have labeled with these descriptions. You have said no one knows you and has no right to an opinion about you but you form opinions and judgments based upon an avi of another poster. That is the point of my picture completely, do not judge someone by the avi they display. You are making an assumption and judgement about obese people based upon what you see not by knowing them. The reasons someone is obese is the important part. Do they have a medical condition? Do they have a low income and the food they can buy is not as healthy? Is their life circumstance very traumatic and eating is their coping mechanism? You have no clue and you do not care to know. You just look at them, say ewww they are icky, lazy, and a financial burden to society. Many obesity issues have to do with the things I listed and just like someone who hoards...someone can come in and clean up the symptom but it doesn't address the problem which results in the symptom. Your view on this issue when you do discuss it is one of no compassion but rather a catalyst for you to boast how wonderful you are. There must me mirrors hung all over your home to ask about that.

 

[TrinityPower]

Most people who are morbidly obese don't want to be that way. If they can somehow find a way to feel good about themselves, then what the fuck - why not let them? What's it to you?

Because it can influence the decisions of others. Directly or indirectly.
It is called situation ethics.
We change the ethics to fit a current situation.
People, specifically Americans, are getting fatter and fatter. DId you even know that childhood Type 2 diabetes did not exist just two generations ago. It DID NOT EXIST.
So excusing, or providing praise, for extremely poor parenting choices is never right. No matter how feel good goody-goody it might seem.
It is a serious f*cking problem in this country, the last statistic I read clearly shows a 200% rise in childhood diabetes in just 5 years.
It is that f*cking serious.
But hey...let's ignore that and tell em they are beautiful.

ImawhatIseem: "But hey...let's ignore that and tell em they are beautiful."

That is a cop out and a poor excuse to fat shame and spew hateful remarks. That does not do any good either and may cause more problems for the targeted individual.

Who are YOU to talk? You make insults to individuals here ALL the time, pretty much consistently. Lol. You have NO room to talk about being nice or kind, because you are neither of those things.

ChrisL: "Who are YOU to talk?"

I am the person you called old and attacked me because I had a different opinion about a sports team than you did. I am the person who takes exception when you attack a poster because of their age and their body size/shape, without provocation I will add.

You are the person who is getting it back now, does not like it and cannot take it.

If this thread were solely about the health concerns of the obese I would agree with you wholeheartedly, but this is in part is your common practice of body/age shaming and I do take exception.

I see a person with a health concern I show compassion or in the very least tolerance and support. That is really who I am to talk.

Look, if I had my way, you wouldn't talk to me at all ever again. I don't like you. I think you're stupid. Okay?

Jeez...very next thread after trying to school someone saying they personally attack her and here she is doing the same....Chis...seriously...stay off of this board til you get your meds stabilized

 

[Alex.]

If anyone has bashed anyone, it has been you doing the bashing and then turning around and claiming to be a Christian. I simply told you that I think it is disrespectful to your husband to run around on a forum in your underwear, and it's weird . . . because it is weird for a married woman who claims to be a Christian to do that shit whether you want to admit that or not. Sorry if you are a strange . . . person. Lol. Sure there is a reason why you keep your face hidden too.

Well Chris, I am Trinity's husband and I will be the judge of what I find disrespectful, not you. If I had a problem with it do you think I would allow it to continue? You have balls the size of coconuts telling my wife what she can and cannot do on my behalf or what is or is not respectful to me. I will make that call on my own, thank you very fucking much.

Nope, sorry but I'm entitled to MY opinion on such things, and to me that would be VERY disrespectful.

Yes you are entitled to your opinion...and I am equally as entitled to tell you to shove your opinion up your ass. I don't care if it would be disrespectful to you. You are not me, thus your opinion becomes totally irrelevant. You know, Chris, you bitch about Christian self-righteousness and rail on those who have the audacity to speak on behalf of God, but here you are in this thread being ever bit as self-righteous and presuming to speak on my behalf.

Who do you think you are that your own rules don't apply to you? Did you take masters level course in "behavioral hypocrisy"? I am starting to think you might be able to teach them.

And I don't care if you don't like MY opinion on this or any other matter. If I was married, I would NEVER do that to my husband. That is just how it is. I'm speaking on my own behalf in that I find it to be disrespectful.

No you have attacked me about it many times and it is not stated "In my opinion..." and following your own mantra here...who really cares about your opinion? You state things as if they are fact and when someone actually gives you a fact especially about the topic of this thread it is disregarded and dismissed as opinion claiming only YOUR version of facts count. You have both admitted and refuted your statements when called to the carpet for them. Pick one path and stick with it. You are a trial attorney's dream witness to discredit.

Let's be honest here. The avi is neither obese or showing any more than one would see in a J.C Penny catalog. You have called me old and disgusting and icky. The real problem here is that anyone who isn't YOU doesn't measure up. I am not the only one you have labeled with these descriptions. You have said no one knows you and has no right to an opinion about you but you form opinions and judgments based upon an avi of another poster. That is the point of my picture completely, do not judge someone by the avi they display. You are making an assumption and judgement about obese people based upon what you see not by knowing them. The reasons someone is obese is the important part. Do they have a medical condition? Do they have a low income and the food they can buy is not as healthy? Is their life circumstance very traumatic and eating is their coping mechanism? You have no clue and you do not care to know. You just look at them, say ewww they are icky, lazy, and a financial burden to society. Many obesity issues have to do with the things I listed and just like someone who hoards...someone can come in and clean up the symptom but it doesn't address the problem which results in the symptom. Your view on this issue when you do discuss it is one of no compassion but rather a catalyst for you to boast how wonderful you are. There must me mirrors hung all over your home to ask about that.

TrinityPower: "You have called me old and disgusting and icky"

Thank you for providing this disclosure. Even though I was not thinking of you when I wrote my earlier post, I do know this type of behavior is commonplace, I have been victimized and have others.

This falls directly in line with the spirit of the OP, "Obesity is NOT beautiful! "

I just don't understand that kind of thinking.

 

[TrinityPower]

Well Chris, I am Trinity's husband and I will be the judge of what I find disrespectful, not you. If I had a problem with it do you think I would allow it to continue? You have balls the size of coconuts telling my wife what she can and cannot do on my behalf or what is or is not respectful to me. I will make that call on my own, thank you very fucking much.

Nope, sorry but I'm entitled to MY opinion on such things, and to me that would be VERY disrespectful.

Yes you are entitled to your opinion...and I am equally as entitled to tell you to shove your opinion up your ass. I don't care if it would be disrespectful to you. You are not me, thus your opinion becomes totally irrelevant. You know, Chris, you bitch about Christian self-righteousness and rail on those who have the audacity to speak on behalf of God, but here you are in this thread being ever bit as self-righteous and presuming to speak on my behalf.

Who do you think you are that your own rules don't apply to you? Did you take masters level course in "behavioral hypocrisy"? I am starting to think you might be able to teach them.

And I don't care if you don't like MY opinion on this or any other matter. If I was married, I would NEVER do that to my husband. That is just how it is. I'm speaking on my own behalf in that I find it to be disrespectful.

No you have attacked me about it many times and it is not stated "In my opinion..." and following your own mantra here...who really cares about your opinion? You state things as if they are fact and when someone actually gives you a fact especially about the topic of this thread it is disregarded and dismissed as opinion claiming only YOUR version of facts count. You have both admitted and refuted your statements when called to the carpet for them. Pick one path and stick with it. You are a trial attorney's dream witness to discredit.

Let's be honest here. The avi is neither obese or showing any more than one would see in a J.C Penny catalog. You have called me old and disgusting and icky. The real problem here is that anyone who isn't YOU doesn't measure up. I am not the only one you have labeled with these descriptions. You have said no one knows you and has no right to an opinion about you but you form opinions and judgments based upon an avi of another poster. That is the point of my picture completely, do not judge someone by the avi they display. You are making an assumption and judgement about obese people based upon what you see not by knowing them. The reasons someone is obese is the important part. Do they have a medical condition? Do they have a low income and the food they can buy is not as healthy? Is their life circumstance very traumatic and eating is their coping mechanism? You have no clue and you do not care to know. You just look at them, say ewww they are icky, lazy, and a financial burden to society. Many obesity issues have to do with the things I listed and just like someone who hoards...someone can come in and clean up the symptom but it doesn't address the problem which results in the symptom. Your view on this issue when you do discuss it is one of no compassion but rather a catalyst for you to boast how wonderful you are. There must me mirrors hung all over your home to ask about that.

TrinityPower: "You have called me old and disgusting and icky"

Thank you for providing this disclosure. Even though I was not thinking of you when I wrote my earlier post, I do know this type of behavior is commonplace, I have been victimized and have others.

This falls directly in line with the spirit of the OP, "Obesity is NOT beautiful! "

I just don't understand that kind of thinking.

You're welcome. I know I am not singled out in being called names and her attempts at shaming me for the avi I display is proof that it has nothing to do with a health issue. She feels threat by anyone who might take attention away from her good or bad. She has been told many times the reasons I have the avi that I do, she just feels threatened by any woman on this forum and attacks any man not complimenting her. Spending enough time to rack up 3500 posts in a month isn't a healthy well balanced idea either...but that's my opinion. Being on the computer that much is just as bad an addiction as eating and lack of exercise but the result of the problem (symptom)of spending countless hours on a discussion board talking about one self is often a person who is bitter, catty, and narcisstic

 

[Coyote]

I don't see any problem with the Avi and in another thread, when you explained the reasons behind it - I applaud it. It's no more "scandelous" than an avi showing a very low cut off the shoulder top.

Making fun of a person's body is little more than Jr. High cruelty and it does little to solve the problem.

I'm not obese and I'm not super thin either, but I've struggled with weight. When I was in my 20's, I had an eating disorder and was pretty thin. Currently I exercise by running - but that is as much for the anti-depressant benefits as for body. I do know, that when I'm depressed I tend to eat more, not want to do things and have little motivation, and then feel even worse about my body and it turns into a self perpetuating cycle that I always have to fight. I certainly don't need other people's disgust heaped upon my own - that is demotivating. I can't imagine I am unique in that either. So what is there to truly gain by heaping that on fat people? They know they are fat. They've probably tried and failed many times at losing weight. You aren't telling them anything they don't know.

 

[TrinityPower]

I will add this as well...the fact is that I am called icky and stared at all the time. I have severe Rheumatoid Arthritis and my fingers are bent in ways I will let you only imagine. I walk slow and oddly and sometimes have to use a walker so when I come here to post I find stimulation in the fact that others judge me upon my ideas, unique opinions and conversation. The avi I display has a deep meaning of do not judge a book by its cover and she has been told that. She has body shamed me as well as done her best to judge and degrade me for my religious beliefs boasting she has none so is exempt from criticism. If someone is not a Pats fan then apparently they have no worth either. I have a somewhat biased opinion regarding that team but no more than anyone else who isn't a fan of their team. The point is that there has not been one forum that I have been a part of where she does not form an opinion and start swinging a figurative sword at everyone else trying to slash them for not wholeheartedly agreeing. That isn't a discussion. That is a dictatorship. I believe most people have agreed that obesity in America is an issue of importance in regard to health, so what else is there to argue? Even people who agree (which I did on that point) were bashed over the head and told they were not INVITED to the conversation. I am not a mod of course but I sure would like to know what constitutes someone being banned

 

[Coyote]

Threads are open to all participants unless the break the Zone or Forum rules big time. The thread's OP doesn't make those decisions.

 

[ChrisL]

Nope, sorry but I'm entitled to MY opinion on such things, and to me that would be VERY disrespectful.

Yes you are entitled to your opinion...and I am equally as entitled to tell you to shove your opinion up your ass. I don't care if it would be disrespectful to you. You are not me, thus your opinion becomes totally irrelevant. You know, Chris, you bitch about Christian self-righteousness and rail on those who have the audacity to speak on behalf of God, but here you are in this thread being ever bit as self-righteous and presuming to speak on my behalf.

Who do you think you are that your own rules don't apply to you? Did you take masters level course in "behavioral hypocrisy"? I am starting to think you might be able to teach them.

And I don't care if you don't like MY opinion on this or any other matter. If I was married, I would NEVER do that to my husband. That is just how it is. I'm speaking on my own behalf in that I find it to be disrespectful.

No you have attacked me about it many times and it is not stated "In my opinion..." and following your own mantra here...who really cares about your opinion? You state things as if they are fact and when someone actually gives you a fact especially about the topic of this thread it is disregarded and dismissed as opinion claiming only YOUR version of facts count. You have both admitted and refuted your statements when called to the carpet for them. Pick one path and stick with it. You are a trial attorney's dream witness to discredit.

Let's be honest here. The avi is neither obese or showing any more than one would see in a J.C Penny catalog. You have called me old and disgusting and icky. The real problem here is that anyone who isn't YOU doesn't measure up. I am not the only one you have labeled with these descriptions. You have said no one knows you and has no right to an opinion about you but you form opinions and judgments based upon an avi of another poster. That is the point of my picture completely, do not judge someone by the avi they display. You are making an assumption and judgement about obese people based upon what you see not by knowing them. The reasons someone is obese is the important part. Do they have a medical condition? Do they have a low income and the food they can buy is not as healthy? Is their life circumstance very traumatic and eating is their coping mechanism? You have no clue and you do not care to know. You just look at them, say ewww they are icky, lazy, and a financial burden to society. Many obesity issues have to do with the things I listed and just like someone who hoards...someone can come in and clean up the symptom but it doesn't address the problem which results in the symptom. Your view on this issue when you do discuss it is one of no compassion but rather a catalyst for you to boast how wonderful you are. There must me mirrors hung all over your home to ask about that.

TrinityPower: "You have called me old and disgusting and icky"

Thank you for providing this disclosure. Even though I was not thinking of you when I wrote my earlier post, I do know this type of behavior is commonplace, I have been victimized and have others.

This falls directly in line with the spirit of the OP, "Obesity is NOT beautiful! "

I just don't understand that kind of thinking.

You're welcome. I know I am not singled out in being called names and her attempts at shaming me for the avi I display is proof that it has nothing to do with a health issue. She feels threat by anyone who might take attention away from her good or bad. She has been told many times the reasons I have the avi that I do, she just feels threatened by any woman on this forum and attacks any man not complimenting her. Spending enough time to rack up 3500 posts in a month isn't a healthy well balanced idea either...but that's my opinion. Being on the computer that much is just as bad an addiction as eating and lack of exercise but the result of the problem (symptom)of spending countless hours on a discussion board talking about one self is often a person who is bitter, catty, and narcisstic

OMG, shut up, will you? You are annoying. YOU started this whole thing when you called me an attention whore for posting about my favorite football team. Too bad for you, I suppose, when someone points out there is no bigger attention whore when a married person has to use an avatar of herself almost naked.

Sorry lady, but someone like yourself has no right to call anyone else an attention whore. That's a fact.

 

[ChrisL]

I don't see any problem with the Avi and in another thread, when you explained the reasons behind it - I applaud it. It's no more "scandelous" than an avi showing a very low cut off the shoulder top.

Making fun of a person's body is little more than Jr. High cruelty and it does little to solve the problem.

I'm not obese and I'm not super thin either, but I've struggled with weight. When I was in my 20's, I had an eating disorder and was pretty thin. Currently I exercise by running - but that is as much for the anti-depressant benefits as for body. I do know, that when I'm depressed I tend to eat more, not want to do things and have little motivation, and then feel even worse about my body and it turns into a self perpetuating cycle that I always have to fight. I certainly don't need other people's disgust heaped upon my own - that is demotivating. I can't imagine I am unique in that either. So what is there to truly gain by heaping that on fat people? They know they are fat. They've probably tried and failed many times at losing weight. You aren't telling them anything they don't know.

Funny how you seem to feel a need to "explain" yourself. The thread is not about you. Okay? The thread is about the problem of obesity in our society.

Now, do you want to discuss that or continue to behave as if you are in junior high?

 

[ChrisL]

I will add this as well...the fact is that I am called icky and stared at all the time. I have severe Rheumatoid Arthritis and my fingers are bent in ways I will let you only imagine. I walk slow and oddly and sometimes have to use a walker so when I come here to post I find stimulation in the fact that others judge me upon my ideas, unique opinions and conversation. The avi I display has a deep meaning of do not judge a book by its cover and she has been told that. She has body shamed me as well as done her best to judge and degrade me for my religious beliefs boasting she has none so is exempt from criticism. If someone is not a Pats fan then apparently they have no worth either. I have a somewhat biased opinion regarding that team but no more than anyone else who isn't a fan of their team. The point is that there has not been one forum that I have been a part of where she does not form an opinion and start swinging a figurative sword at everyone else trying to slash them for not wholeheartedly agreeing. That isn't a discussion. That is a dictatorship. I believe most people have agreed that obesity in America is an issue of importance in regard to health, so what else is there to argue? Even people who agree (which I did on that point) were bashed over the head and told they were not INVITED to the conversation. I am not a mod of course but I sure would like to know what constitutes someone being banned

Oh shut up! I think you are crazy.

 

[ChrisL]

Chill Chris. Its a Holiday today.

Halloween?

 

[ChrisL]

If anyone has bashed anyone, it has been you doing the bashing and then turning around and claiming to be a Christian. I simply told you that I think it is disrespectful to your husband to run around on a forum in your underwear, and it's weird . . . because it is weird for a married woman who claims to be a Christian to do that shit whether you want to admit that or not. Sorry if you are a strange . . . person. Lol. Sure there is a reason why you keep your face hidden too.

Well Chris, I am Trinity's husband and I will be the judge of what I find disrespectful, not you. If I had a problem with it do you think I would allow it to continue? You have balls the size of coconuts telling my wife what she can and cannot do on my behalf or what is or is not respectful to me. I will make that call on my own, thank you very fucking much.

Nope, sorry but I'm entitled to MY opinion on such things, and to me that would be VERY disrespectful.

Yes you are entitled to your opinion...and I am equally as entitled to tell you to shove your opinion up your ass. I don't care if it would be disrespectful to you. You are not me, thus your opinion becomes totally irrelevant. You know, Chris, you bitch about Christian self-righteousness and rail on those who have the audacity to speak on behalf of God, but here you are in this thread being ever bit as self-righteous and presuming to speak on my behalf.

Who do you think you are that your own rules don't apply to you? Did you take masters level course in "behavioral hypocrisy"? I am starting to think you might be able to teach them.

And I don't care if you don't like MY opinion on this or any other matter. If I was married, I would NEVER do that to my husband. That is just how it is. I'm speaking on my own behalf in that I find it to be disrespectful.

No you have attacked me about it many times and it is not stated "In my opinion..." and following your own mantra here...who really cares about your opinion? You state things as if they are fact and when someone actually gives you a fact especially about the topic of this thread it is disregarded and dismissed as opinion claiming only YOUR version of facts count. You have both admitted and refuted your statements when called to the carpet for them. Pick one path and stick with it. You are a trial attorney's dream witness to discredit.

Let's be honest here. The avi is neither obese or showing any more than one would see in a J.C Penny catalog. You have called me old and disgusting and icky. The real problem here is that anyone who isn't YOU doesn't measure up. I am not the only one you have labeled with these descriptions. You have said no one knows you and has no right to an opinion about you but you form opinions and judgments based upon an avi of another poster. That is the point of my picture completely, do not judge someone by the avi they display. You are making an assumption and judgement about obese people based upon what you see not by knowing them. The reasons someone is obese is the important part. Do they have a medical condition? Do they have a low income and the food they can buy is not as healthy? Is their life circumstance very traumatic and eating is their coping mechanism? You have no clue and you do not care to know. You just look at them, say ewww they are icky, lazy, and a financial burden to society. Many obesity issues have to do with the things I listed and just like someone who hoards...someone can come in and clean up the symptom but it doesn't address the problem which results in the symptom. Your view on this issue when you do discuss it is one of no compassion but rather a catalyst for you to boast how wonderful you are. There must me mirrors hung all over your home to ask about that.

I've stated nothing that isn't a fact here. Fuck off weirdo.