Obesity is NOT beautiful! :(

[Coyote]

Most people who are morbidly obese don't want to be that way. If they can somehow find a way to feel good about themselves, then what the fuck - why not let them? What's it to you?

 

[BluePhantom]

I have not read all of the comments but I find this an interesting topic coming from someone who bashes other women for being in great shape and showing it. Basically it is a matter of whoever isn't the OP in this discussion is out of shape and lazy but last I saw she had the most posts registered on USMB for the month. Most other people do not spend their lives on here like that. I do agree that sadly most kids are given processed and fast food which has a lot of calories but little nutrition and many kids live in apartments where riding a bike or doing something active is not supported or encouraged so kids have nothing to do but be on the computer and eat. When parents ARE home they are tired from working and do not make the well balanced healthy meals I had as a kid. Even those meals that were considered healthy then would not be so now because the amount of exercise and activity kids and adults alike get now is greatly diminished from what it was 30+ years ago. When I grew up it was still in an era where moms stayed home and dads worked so meals were made, houses were clean, and kids were looked after. That dynamic is a rare thing today.

If anyone has bashed anyone, it has been you doing the bashing and then turning around and claiming to be a Christian. I simply told you that I think it is disrespectful to your husband to run around on a forum in your underwear, and it's weird . . . because it is weird for a married woman who claims to be a Christian to do that shit whether you want to admit that or not. Sorry if you are a strange . . . person. Lol. Sure there is a reason why you keep your face hidden too.

Well Chris, I am Trinity's husband and I will be the judge of what I find disrespectful, not you. If I had a problem with it do you think I would allow it to continue? You have balls the size of coconuts telling my wife what she can and cannot do on my behalf or what is or is not respectful to me. I will make that call on my own, thank you very fucking much.

Nope, sorry but I'm entitled to MY opinion on such things, and to me that would be VERY disrespectful.

Yes you are entitled to your opinion...and I am equally as entitled to tell you to shove your opinion up your ass. I don't care if it would be disrespectful to you. You are not me, thus your opinion becomes totally irrelevant. You know, Chris, you bitch about Christian self-righteousness and rail on those who have the audacity to speak on behalf of God, but here you are in this thread being ever bit as self-righteous and presuming to speak on my behalf.

Who do you think you are that your own rules don't apply to you? Did you take masters level course in "behavioral hypocrisy"? I am starting to think you might be able to teach them.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Most people who are morbidly obese don't want to be that way. If they can somehow find a way to feel good about themselves, then what the fuck - why not let them? What's it to you?

Because it can influence the decisions of others. Directly or indirectly.
It is called situation ethics.
We change the ethics to fit a current situation.
People, specifically Americans, are getting fatter and fatter. DId you even know that childhood Type 2 diabetes did not exist just two generations ago. It DID NOT EXIST.
So excusing, or providing praise, for extremely poor parenting choices is never right. No matter how feel good goody-goody it might seem.
It is a serious f*cking problem in this country, the last statistic I read clearly shows a 200% rise in childhood diabetes in just 5 years.
It is that f*cking serious.
But hey...let's ignore that and tell em they are beautiful.

 

[Alex.]

Most people who are morbidly obese don't want to be that way. If they can somehow find a way to feel good about themselves, then what the fuck - why not let them? What's it to you?

Because it can influence the decisions of others. Directly or indirectly.
It is called situation ethics.
We change the ethics to fit a current situation.
People, specifically Americans, are getting fatter and fatter. DId you even know that childhood Type 2 diabetes did not exist just two generations ago. It DID NOT EXIST.
So excusing, or providing praise, for extremely poor parenting choices is never right. No matter how feel good goody-goody it might seem.
It is a serious f*cking problem in this country, the last statistic I read clearly shows a 200% rise in childhood diabetes in just 5 years.
It is that f*cking serious.
But hey...let's ignore that and tell em they are beautiful.

ImawhatIseem: "But hey...let's ignore that and tell em they are beautiful."

That is a cop out and a poor excuse to fat shame and spew hateful remarks. That does not do any good either and may cause more problems for the targeted individual.

 

[Coyote]

Most people who are morbidly obese don't want to be that way. If they can somehow find a way to feel good about themselves, then what the fuck - why not let them? What's it to you?

Because it can influence the decisions of others. Directly or indirectly.
It is called situation ethics.
We change the ethics to fit a current situation.
People, specifically Americans, are getting fatter and fatter. DId you even know that childhood Type 2 diabetes did not exist just two generations ago. It DID NOT EXIST.
So excusing, or providing praise, for extremely poor parenting choices is never right. No matter how feel good goody-goody it might seem.
It is a serious f*cking problem in this country, the last statistic I read clearly shows a 200% rise in childhood diabetes in just 5 years.
It is that f*cking serious.
But hey...let's ignore that and tell em they are beautiful.

You attack the problem of obesity.

You don't attack the people.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Most people who are morbidly obese don't want to be that way. If they can somehow find a way to feel good about themselves, then what the fuck - why not let them? What's it to you?

Because it can influence the decisions of others. Directly or indirectly.
It is called situation ethics.
We change the ethics to fit a current situation.
People, specifically Americans, are getting fatter and fatter. DId you even know that childhood Type 2 diabetes did not exist just two generations ago. It DID NOT EXIST.
So excusing, or providing praise, for extremely poor parenting choices is never right. No matter how feel good goody-goody it might seem.
It is a serious f*cking problem in this country, the last statistic I read clearly shows a 200% rise in childhood diabetes in just 5 years.
It is that f*cking serious.
But hey...let's ignore that and tell em they are beautiful.

You attack the problem of obesity.

You don't attack the people.

Bullshit.
You attack the people if they are the parents of a child and feeding them horrendous food options that set the stage for a life filled with health problems.
Would you say it is ok if a parent gave cigarettes to their 3 year old? Or would you attack that behavior?
You do know that far-far-far more people die of food born diseases than cigarettes right?

 

[Coyote]

Most people who are morbidly obese don't want to be that way. If they can somehow find a way to feel good about themselves, then what the fuck - why not let them? What's it to you?

Because it can influence the decisions of others. Directly or indirectly.
It is called situation ethics.
We change the ethics to fit a current situation.
People, specifically Americans, are getting fatter and fatter. DId you even know that childhood Type 2 diabetes did not exist just two generations ago. It DID NOT EXIST.
So excusing, or providing praise, for extremely poor parenting choices is never right. No matter how feel good goody-goody it might seem.
It is a serious f*cking problem in this country, the last statistic I read clearly shows a 200% rise in childhood diabetes in just 5 years.
It is that f*cking serious.
But hey...let's ignore that and tell em they are beautiful.

You attack the problem of obesity.

You don't attack the people.

Bullshit.
You attack the people if they are the parents of a child and feeding them horrendous food options that set the stage for a life filled with health problems.
Would you say it is ok if a parent gave cigarettes to their 3 year old? Or would you attack that behavior?
You do know that far-far-far more people die of food born diseases than cigarettes right?

If you're talking about parenting - that's one thing. If you're talking about individual people who are fat, that's another.

So how are you going to attack them and what do you gain by it? Why are their kids fat? Lack of knowledge? Lack of access to healthy food? Lack of time to prepare it? Attack the issues rather than the people. That is, if you want to change anything.

 

[Asclepias]

Most people who are morbidly obese don't want to be that way. If they can somehow find a way to feel good about themselves, then what the fuck - why not let them? What's it to you?

Because it can influence the decisions of others. Directly or indirectly.
It is called situation ethics.
We change the ethics to fit a current situation.
People, specifically Americans, are getting fatter and fatter. DId you even know that childhood Type 2 diabetes did not exist just two generations ago. It DID NOT EXIST.
So excusing, or providing praise, for extremely poor parenting choices is never right. No matter how feel good goody-goody it might seem.
It is a serious f*cking problem in this country, the last statistic I read clearly shows a 200% rise in childhood diabetes in just 5 years.
It is that f*cking serious.
But hey...let's ignore that and tell em they are beautiful.

You attack the problem of obesity.

You don't attack the people.

Bullshit.
You attack the people if they are the parents of a child and feeding them horrendous food options that set the stage for a life filled with health problems.
Would you say it is ok if a parent gave cigarettes to their 3 year old? Or would you attack that behavior?
You do know that far-far-far more people die of food born diseases than cigarettes right?

If you're talking about parenting - that's one thing. If you're talking about individual people who are fat, that's another.

So how are you going to attack them and what do you gain by it? Why are their kids fat? Lack of knowledge? Lack of access to healthy food? Lack of time to prepare it? Attack the issues rather than the people. That is, if you want to change anything.

People that lack leadership skills just dont get the dynamics of what you are talking about. They may at best reach first line manager status in any venue and thats probably about it. No leadership skills required for that.

 

[ChrisL]

I have not read all of the comments but I find this an interesting topic coming from someone who bashes other women for being in great shape and showing it. Basically it is a matter of whoever isn't the OP in this discussion is out of shape and lazy but last I saw she had the most posts registered on USMB for the month. Most other people do not spend their lives on here like that. I do agree that sadly most kids are given processed and fast food which has a lot of calories but little nutrition and many kids live in apartments where riding a bike or doing something active is not supported or encouraged so kids have nothing to do but be on the computer and eat. When parents ARE home they are tired from working and do not make the well balanced healthy meals I had as a kid. Even those meals that were considered healthy then would not be so now because the amount of exercise and activity kids and adults alike get now is greatly diminished from what it was 30+ years ago. When I grew up it was still in an era where moms stayed home and dads worked so meals were made, houses were clean, and kids were looked after. That dynamic is a rare thing today.

If anyone has bashed anyone, it has been you doing the bashing and then turning around and claiming to be a Christian. I simply told you that I think it is disrespectful to your husband to run around on a forum in your underwear, and it's weird . . . because it is weird for a married woman who claims to be a Christian to do that shit whether you want to admit that or not. Sorry if you are a strange . . . person. Lol. Sure there is a reason why you keep your face hidden too.

Well Chris, I am Trinity's husband and I will be the judge of what I find disrespectful, not you. If I had a problem with it do you think I would allow it to continue? You have balls the size of coconuts telling my wife what she can and cannot do on my behalf or what is or is not respectful to me. I will make that call on my own, thank you very fucking much.

Nope, sorry but I'm entitled to MY opinion on such things, and to me that would be VERY disrespectful.

Yes you are entitled to your opinion...and I am equally as entitled to tell you to shove your opinion up your ass. I don't care if it would be disrespectful to you. You are not me, thus your opinion becomes totally irrelevant. You know, Chris, you bitch about Christian self-righteousness and rail on those who have the audacity to speak on behalf of God, but here you are in this thread being ever bit as self-righteous and presuming to speak on my behalf.

Who do you think you are that your own rules don't apply to you? Did you take masters level course in "behavioral hypocrisy"? I am starting to think you might be able to teach them.

And I don't care if you don't like MY opinion on this or any other matter. If I was married, I would NEVER do that to my husband. That is just how it is. I'm speaking on my own behalf in that I find it to be disrespectful.

 

[ChrisL]

Most people who are morbidly obese don't want to be that way. If they can somehow find a way to feel good about themselves, then what the fuck - why not let them? What's it to you?

Because it can influence the decisions of others. Directly or indirectly.
It is called situation ethics.
We change the ethics to fit a current situation.
People, specifically Americans, are getting fatter and fatter. DId you even know that childhood Type 2 diabetes did not exist just two generations ago. It DID NOT EXIST.
So excusing, or providing praise, for extremely poor parenting choices is never right. No matter how feel good goody-goody it might seem.
It is a serious f*cking problem in this country, the last statistic I read clearly shows a 200% rise in childhood diabetes in just 5 years.
It is that f*cking serious.
But hey...let's ignore that and tell em they are beautiful.

You attack the problem of obesity.

You don't attack the people.

Bullshit.
You attack the people if they are the parents of a child and feeding them horrendous food options that set the stage for a life filled with health problems.
Would you say it is ok if a parent gave cigarettes to their 3 year old? Or would you attack that behavior?
You do know that far-far-far more people die of food born diseases than cigarettes right?

If you're talking about parenting - that's one thing. If you're talking about individual people who are fat, that's another.

So how are you going to attack them and what do you gain by it? Why are their kids fat? Lack of knowledge? Lack of access to healthy food? Lack of time to prepare it? Attack the issues rather than the people. That is, if you want to change anything.

No, that is bad parenting. Period. It is no better than any kind of abuse/neglect. It leads to ALL kinds of problems for the children.

 

[ChrisL]

Most people who are morbidly obese don't want to be that way. If they can somehow find a way to feel good about themselves, then what the fuck - why not let them? What's it to you?

Because it can influence the decisions of others. Directly or indirectly.
It is called situation ethics.
We change the ethics to fit a current situation.
People, specifically Americans, are getting fatter and fatter. DId you even know that childhood Type 2 diabetes did not exist just two generations ago. It DID NOT EXIST.
So excusing, or providing praise, for extremely poor parenting choices is never right. No matter how feel good goody-goody it might seem.
It is a serious f*cking problem in this country, the last statistic I read clearly shows a 200% rise in childhood diabetes in just 5 years.
It is that f*cking serious.
But hey...let's ignore that and tell em they are beautiful.

ImawhatIseem: "But hey...let's ignore that and tell em they are beautiful."

That is a cop out and a poor excuse to fat shame and spew hateful remarks. That does not do any good either and may cause more problems for the targeted individual.

Who are YOU to talk? You make insults to individuals here ALL the time, pretty much consistently. Lol. You have NO room to talk about being nice or kind, because you are neither of those things.

 

[ChrisL]

Most people who are morbidly obese don't want to be that way. If they can somehow find a way to feel good about themselves, then what the fuck - why not let them? What's it to you?

You are wrong. Doctors and other EXPERTS (not some crazed out douchebags on the internet), have determined that MOST obesity is due to overeating, poor choices and lack of physical activity.

 

[ChrisL]

Most people who are morbidly obese don't want to be that way. If they can somehow find a way to feel good about themselves, then what the fuck - why not let them? What's it to you?

Because it can influence the decisions of others. Directly or indirectly.
It is called situation ethics.
We change the ethics to fit a current situation.
People, specifically Americans, are getting fatter and fatter. DId you even know that childhood Type 2 diabetes did not exist just two generations ago. It DID NOT EXIST.
So excusing, or providing praise, for extremely poor parenting choices is never right. No matter how feel good goody-goody it might seem.
It is a serious f*cking problem in this country, the last statistic I read clearly shows a 200% rise in childhood diabetes in just 5 years.
It is that f*cking serious.
But hey...let's ignore that and tell em they are beautiful.

You attack the problem of obesity.

You don't attack the people.

Bullshit.
You attack the people if they are the parents of a child and feeding them horrendous food options that set the stage for a life filled with health problems.
Would you say it is ok if a parent gave cigarettes to their 3 year old? Or would you attack that behavior?
You do know that far-far-far more people die of food born diseases than cigarettes right?

Exactly. It is not much different than any other child abuse/neglect. It is a big problem and causes serious health issues and an early DEATH. Too bad if the parents are "sad." What a fucking cop out that is!

As if these bunch of douchebags don't make their OWN attacks? Good grief. What a sad state of affairs.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

People that lack leadership skills just dont get the dynamics of what you are talking about. They may at best reach first line manager status in any venue and thats probably about it. No leadership skills required for that.

Hahaha...yuo have no idea who I am and what I do for a living.
If you did, you wouldn't be saying that.
Hilarious.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Most people who are morbidly obese don't want to be that way. If they can somehow find a way to feel good about themselves, then what the fuck - why not let them? What's it to you?

Because it can influence the decisions of others. Directly or indirectly.
It is called situation ethics.
We change the ethics to fit a current situation.
People, specifically Americans, are getting fatter and fatter. DId you even know that childhood Type 2 diabetes did not exist just two generations ago. It DID NOT EXIST.
So excusing, or providing praise, for extremely poor parenting choices is never right. No matter how feel good goody-goody it might seem.
It is a serious f*cking problem in this country, the last statistic I read clearly shows a 200% rise in childhood diabetes in just 5 years.
It is that f*cking serious.
But hey...let's ignore that and tell em they are beautiful.

You attack the problem of obesity.

You don't attack the people.

Bullshit.
You attack the people if they are the parents of a child and feeding them horrendous food options that set the stage for a life filled with health problems.
Would you say it is ok if a parent gave cigarettes to their 3 year old? Or would you attack that behavior?
You do know that far-far-far more people die of food born diseases than cigarettes right?

Exactly. It is not much different than any other child abuse/neglect. It is a big problem and causes serious health issues and an early DEATH. Too bad if the parents are "sad." What a fucking cop out that is!

As if these bunch of douchebags don't make their OWN attacks? Good grief. What a sad state of affairs.

Well Chris, as you know, for many people if you "attack" anyone other than white males - you are a terrible person.

P.S. - or christianity...that is of course always open for criticism of any kind.

 

[ChrisL]

Most people who are morbidly obese don't want to be that way. If they can somehow find a way to feel good about themselves, then what the fuck - why not let them? What's it to you?

Because it can influence the decisions of others. Directly or indirectly.
It is called situation ethics.
We change the ethics to fit a current situation.
People, specifically Americans, are getting fatter and fatter. DId you even know that childhood Type 2 diabetes did not exist just two generations ago. It DID NOT EXIST.
So excusing, or providing praise, for extremely poor parenting choices is never right. No matter how feel good goody-goody it might seem.
It is a serious f*cking problem in this country, the last statistic I read clearly shows a 200% rise in childhood diabetes in just 5 years.
It is that f*cking serious.
But hey...let's ignore that and tell em they are beautiful.

You attack the problem of obesity.

You don't attack the people.

Bullshit.
You attack the people if they are the parents of a child and feeding them horrendous food options that set the stage for a life filled with health problems.
Would you say it is ok if a parent gave cigarettes to their 3 year old? Or would you attack that behavior?
You do know that far-far-far more people die of food born diseases than cigarettes right?

Exactly. It is not much different than any other child abuse/neglect. It is a big problem and causes serious health issues and an early DEATH. Too bad if the parents are "sad." What a fucking cop out that is!

As if these bunch of douchebags don't make their OWN attacks? Good grief. What a sad state of affairs.

Well Chris, as you know, for many people if you "attack" anyone other than white males - you are a terrible person.

P.S. - or christianity...that is of course always open for criticism of any kind.

Can't say that I find "christianity" great. All you have to do is read the post content of those who claim to be "Christians." Lol. It's hilarious!

 

[ChrisL]

People that lack leadership skills just dont get the dynamics of what you are talking about. They may at best reach first line manager status in any venue and thats probably about it. No leadership skills required for that.

Hahaha...yuo have no idea who I am and what I do for a living.
If you did, you wouldn't be saying that.
Hilarious.

Do they think they are "smart" or something? It boggles the mind, huh? They diss others for making a "personal" attack when we are speaking in generalities, yet they come and actually DO personally attack individuals. What is WRONG with them?

 

[Alex.]

Most people who are morbidly obese don't want to be that way. If they can somehow find a way to feel good about themselves, then what the fuck - why not let them? What's it to you?

Because it can influence the decisions of others. Directly or indirectly.
It is called situation ethics.
We change the ethics to fit a current situation.
People, specifically Americans, are getting fatter and fatter. DId you even know that childhood Type 2 diabetes did not exist just two generations ago. It DID NOT EXIST.
So excusing, or providing praise, for extremely poor parenting choices is never right. No matter how feel good goody-goody it might seem.
It is a serious f*cking problem in this country, the last statistic I read clearly shows a 200% rise in childhood diabetes in just 5 years.
It is that f*cking serious.
But hey...let's ignore that and tell em they are beautiful.

ImawhatIseem: "But hey...let's ignore that and tell em they are beautiful."

That is a cop out and a poor excuse to fat shame and spew hateful remarks. That does not do any good either and may cause more problems for the targeted individual.

Who are YOU to talk? You make insults to individuals here ALL the time, pretty much consistently. Lol. You have NO room to talk about being nice or kind, because you are neither of those things.

ChrisL: "Who are YOU to talk?"

I am the person you called old and attacked me because I had a different opinion about a sports team than you did. I am the person who takes exception when you attack a poster because of their age and their body size/shape, without provocation I will add.

You are the person who is getting it back now, does not like it and cannot take it.

If this thread were solely about the health concerns of the obese I would agree with you wholeheartedly, but this is in part is your common practice of body/age shaming and I do take exception.

I see a person with a health concern I show compassion or in the very least tolerance and support. That is really who I am to talk.

 

[ChrisL]

Most people who are morbidly obese don't want to be that way. If they can somehow find a way to feel good about themselves, then what the fuck - why not let them? What's it to you?

Because it can influence the decisions of others. Directly or indirectly.
It is called situation ethics.
We change the ethics to fit a current situation.
People, specifically Americans, are getting fatter and fatter. DId you even know that childhood Type 2 diabetes did not exist just two generations ago. It DID NOT EXIST.
So excusing, or providing praise, for extremely poor parenting choices is never right. No matter how feel good goody-goody it might seem.
It is a serious f*cking problem in this country, the last statistic I read clearly shows a 200% rise in childhood diabetes in just 5 years.
It is that f*cking serious.
But hey...let's ignore that and tell em they are beautiful.

ImawhatIseem: "But hey...let's ignore that and tell em they are beautiful."

That is a cop out and a poor excuse to fat shame and spew hateful remarks. That does not do any good either and may cause more problems for the targeted individual.

Who are YOU to talk? You make insults to individuals here ALL the time, pretty much consistently. Lol. You have NO room to talk about being nice or kind, because you are neither of those things.

ChrisL: "Who are YOU to talk?"

I am the person you called old and attacked me because I had a different opinion about a sports team than you did. I am the person who takes exception when you attack a poster because of their age and their body size/shape, without provocation I will add.

You are the person who is getting it back now, does not like it and cannot take it.

If this thread were solely about the health concerns of the obese I would agree with you wholeheartedly, but this is in part is your common practice of body/age shaming and I do take exception.

I see a person with a health concern I show compassion or in the very least tolerance and support. That is really who I am to talk.

Are you kidding me? Anyone can go to any thread that you have participated on and see your OWN personal attacks. Anyone can go to the Pats thread and see how you have attacked EVERYONE there in a personal way. Good grief, you are STUPID.

 

[ChrisL]

Most people who are morbidly obese don't want to be that way. If they can somehow find a way to feel good about themselves, then what the fuck - why not let them? What's it to you?

Because it can influence the decisions of others. Directly or indirectly.
It is called situation ethics.
We change the ethics to fit a current situation.
People, specifically Americans, are getting fatter and fatter. DId you even know that childhood Type 2 diabetes did not exist just two generations ago. It DID NOT EXIST.
So excusing, or providing praise, for extremely poor parenting choices is never right. No matter how feel good goody-goody it might seem.
It is a serious f*cking problem in this country, the last statistic I read clearly shows a 200% rise in childhood diabetes in just 5 years.
It is that f*cking serious.
But hey...let's ignore that and tell em they are beautiful.

ImawhatIseem: "But hey...let's ignore that and tell em they are beautiful."

That is a cop out and a poor excuse to fat shame and spew hateful remarks. That does not do any good either and may cause more problems for the targeted individual.

Who are YOU to talk? You make insults to individuals here ALL the time, pretty much consistently. Lol. You have NO room to talk about being nice or kind, because you are neither of those things.

ChrisL: "Who are YOU to talk?"

I am the person you called old and attacked me because I had a different opinion about a sports team than you did. I am the person who takes exception when you attack a poster because of their age and their body size/shape, without provocation I will add.

You are the person who is getting it back now, does not like it and cannot take it.

If this thread were solely about the health concerns of the obese I would agree with you wholeheartedly, but this is in part is your common practice of body/age shaming and I do take exception.

I see a person with a health concern I show compassion or in the very least tolerance and support. That is really who I am to talk.

Look, if I had my way, you wouldn't talk to me at all ever again. I don't like you. I think you're stupid. Okay?