Obama to Show Birth Certificate

[NYcarbineer]

I didn't post the link but it has been posted in this thread.

http://www.nber.org/vital-statistics/historical/nat61_1.CV.pdf



Here is the link. The reference was to page 231.

It does NOT list Korean as a race identifier.

It does NOT list German as a race identifier.

It does NOT list Portuguese as a race identifier.

It does NOT list English as a race identifier.​

Which were race identifiers from a document YOU supplied to the various discussions.



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I ask again do you have proof other than the fraud that has been present that AFRICAN was a racial identifier on American government documents 1961? Original documents not revised.

It's a Hawaiian state document. If you want to prove it invalid prove that Hawaii did not accept such an identifier.

Otherwise you have nothing.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

http://www.nber.org/vital-statistics/historical/nat61_1.CV.pdf



Here is the link. The reference was to page 231.

It does NOT list Korean as a race identifier.

It does NOT list German as a race identifier.

It does NOT list Portuguese as a race identifier.

It does NOT list English as a race identifier.​

Which were race identifiers from a document YOU supplied to the various discussions.



>>>>

I ask again do you have proof other than the fraud that has been present that AFRICAN was a racial identifier on American government documents 1961? Original documents not revised.

It's a Hawaiian state document. If you want to prove it invalid prove that Hawaii did not accept such an identifier.

Otherwise you have nothing.

It's a revised document 11/01 so it's not an orininal document from 1961. Besides it's the one that's being argued about do you have another one?

 

[Rinata]

Birtherist response highlights racial undertones of ‘debate’ - Yahoo! News

And columnist Michael Tomasky wrote for The Guardian Wednesday that the birther conspiracy "had to be the only explanation for how this black man got to the White House." He added: "And if you think race isn't what this is about at its core, ask yourself if there would even be a birther conspiracy if Barack Obama were white and named Bart Oberstar. If you think there would be, you are delusional."


In a similar vein, Rev. Jesse Jackson told Politico yesterday that Donald Trump's campaign to get Obama to release his birth certificate is deeply rooted in race.

"Any discussion of [Obama's] birthplace is a code word," Jackson said. "It calls upon ancient racial fears." Jackson later added that, in his view, Trump "is now tapping into code-word fears that go far beyond a rational discourse."

Birthers emphatically deny such criticism. But it's difficult to apprehend the ongoing resistance to proof of Obama's citizenship without crediting racial fear as a significant factor. At first, after all, many adherents of birtherism argued that the administration fueled speculation by failing to release the long-form version of Obama's birth certificate, but now that this version has been released to the public, the call continues to go out for other kinds of information about Obama's past to be released--a level of scrutiny that neither McCain nor Obama's 43 predecessors in the Oval Office were expected to face.


Trump, who has railed against Obama as he floats himself as a presidential contender, on Wednesday at a press conference in New Hampshire called for Obama to release his academic transcripts:


The word is, according to what I've read, that he was a terrible student when he went to Occidental. He then gets to Columbia. He then gets to Harvard. I heard at Columbia he wasn't a very good student. He then gets to Harvard. How do you get into Harvard if you're not a good student. Maybe that's right or maybe that's wrong. But I don't know why he doesn't release his records. Why doesn't he release his Occidental records?

Trump and others have accused Obama of not authoring his memoir, while many Obama detractors continue to argue he is secretly Muslim. Both Jackson and Peniel noted that never before has a sitting president's nationality been questioned.

Meanwhile, an eye-opening recent study from the University of Delaware appears to confirm that race-minded detractors of Obama view him as "less American"--as Dan Vergano writes for USA Today.

The study, which surveyed blacks and whites on their opinions of Obama compared to Vice President Joe Biden, found that whites classified as "higher prejudice-predicted Whites" viewed Obama as "less American"--a view that, in turn, resulted in lower evaluations of the president's performance.

These ******* racist pricks make me sick when they deny their racism, no other president has ever been asked to release such information, its as if if you're black and the leader of this country you must prove something more than anyone else, who the hell is Donald Trump or any other racist prick to prove something to? The racist pricks just can't get themselves to accept that a black man sits in the WH and not as a servant or janitor.

That is the problem in a nutshell. Except one more thing. They also just cannot accept President Obama's intelligence. It just pisses them off something fierce.

 

[Stephanie]

OMFrikkenGawd, not only can't we stand to see a BLACK man in the WHITEhouse, now we can't stand the Obama's INTELLIGENCE.

 

[Screaming Eagle]

It's clearly a fake.

 

[Rinata]

You're an idiot.

You guys really are going to claim that we're talking in "code" since you can't justifiably accuse us of racism any other way. Since we don't behave and speak in a racist manner, you have to claim that we're hiding our racism in CODE and if you just crack the code, you got us!

The only racists are the idiots who are using blacks, and race, to bolster up a party that has completely sickened the world. The only way you can pull people to you is by lying, and accusing the other side of the most foul behavior you can think of. And you don't care how many black people get hurt when you do it

BTW, do a search on this site of every foul racist word you can think of. I guarantee that the huge majority of people using them are left wingers

Are you serious??? You think that the only way a person can show their racism is by using the "N" word??? Don't you know that people get their racism noticed in ways that are often subtle?? Also, actions can convey racism, expressions can convey racism. Words can convey racism, such as this post from you!!! How stupid can you be???

 

[007]

It's clearly a fake.

It clearly has been doctored all to hell. It's more a computer generated concoction than a simple scan of something. It's more a fake than the first piss poor forgery he produced. This guy is pissing in the face of ALL Americans with this pathetic garbage. Some people are loving his golden shower as he pisses in their face, and some are outraged. Once and for all there should be a congressional investigation into this so that people stop lying, forging, and pissing in faces. This issue should be put to rest, instead of obama just passing off this total crap expecting people to buy it.

New obama Certification of Live Birth is a FORGERY!

 

[Vast LWC]

These ******* racist pricks make me sick when they deny their racism, no other president has ever been asked to release such information, its as if if you're black and the leader of this country you must prove something more than anyone else, who the hell is Donald Trump or any other racist prick to prove something to? The racist pricks just can't get themselves to accept that a black man sits in the WH and not as a servant or janitor.

That is the problem in a nutshell. Except one more thing. They also just cannot accept President Obama's intelligence. It just pisses them off something fierce.

Umm, not to nitpick, because I do think there was a certain amount of racism in the origin of this whole conspiracy theory, though I don't believe all birthers are necessarily racist...

But...

The subject of being a "Natural Born Citizen" has in fact been brought up before in several presidential races.

Natural Born Citizen Clause - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Specifically:

• Chester A. Arthur (1829–1886), 21st president of the United States, was rumored to have been born in Canada. This was never demonstrated by his Democratic opponents, although Arthur Hinman, an attorney who had investigated Arthur's family history, raised the objection during his vice-presidential campaign and after the end of his Presidency. Arthur was born in Vermont to a U.S. citizen mother and a father from Ireland, who was eventually naturalized as a U.S. citizen in 1843 (14 years after Chester was born). Despite the fact that his parents took up residence in the United States somewhere between 1822 and 1824, Chester Arthur additionally began to claim between 1870 and 1880 that he had been born in 1830, rather than in 1829, which only caused minor confusion and was even used in several publications. Arthur was sworn in as president when President Garfield died after being shot.
• Christopher Schürmann (born 1848 in New York) entered the Labor primaries during the 1896 Presidential election. His eligibility was questioned in a New York Tribune article, because he was born to alien parents of German nationality. It was stated that "various Attorney-Generals of the United States have expressed the opinion that a child born in this country of alien parents, who have not been naturalized, is, by the fact of birth, a native-born citizen entitled to all rights and privileges as such". But due to a lack of any statute on the subject, Schürmann's eligibility was "at best an open question, and one which should have made [his] nomination under any circumstances an impossibility", because questions concerning his eligibility could have been raised after the election.
• The eligibility of Charles Evans Hughes (1862–1948) was questioned in an article written by Breckinridge Long, and published in the Chicago Legal News during the U.S. presidential election of 1916, in which Hughes was narrowly defeated by Woodrow Wilson. Long claimed that Hughes was ineligible because his father had not yet naturalized at the time of his birth and was still a British citizen. Observing that Hughes, although born in the United States, was also a British subject and therefore "enjoy[ed] a dual nationality and owe[d] a double allegiance", Long argued that a native born citizen was not natural born without a unity of U.S. citizenship and allegiance and stated: "Now if, by any possible construction, a person at the instant of birth, and for any period of time thereafter, owes, or may owe, allegiance to any sovereign but the United States, he is not a 'natural-born' citizen of the United States."
• Barry Goldwater (1909–1998) was born in Phoenix, in what was then the incorporated Arizona Territory of the United States. During his presidential campaign in 1964, there was a minor controversy over Goldwater's having been born in Arizona when it was not yet a state.
• George Romney (1907–1995), who ran for the Republican party nomination in 1968, was born in Mexico to U.S. parents. Romney's grandfather had emigrated to Mexico in 1886 with his three wives and children after Utah outlawed polygamy. Romney's monogamous parents retained their U.S. citizenship and returned to the United States with him in 1912. Romney never received Mexican citizenship, because the country's nationality laws had been restricted to jus-sanguinis statutes due to prevailing politics aimed against American settlers.
• Lowell Weicker (born 1931), the former Connecticut Senator, Representative, and Governor, entered the race for the Republican party nomination of 1980 but dropped out before voting in the primaries began. He was born in Paris, France to parents who were U.S. citizens. His father was an executive for E. R. Squibb & Sons and his mother was the Indian-born daughter of a British general.

 

[TheBrain]

You're an idiot.

You guys really are going to claim that we're talking in "code" since you can't justifiably accuse us of racism any other way. Since we don't behave and speak in a racist manner, you have to claim that we're hiding our racism in CODE and if you just crack the code, you got us!

The only racists are the idiots who are using blacks, and race, to bolster up a party that has completely sickened the world. The only way you can pull people to you is by lying, and accusing the other side of the most foul behavior you can think of. And you don't care how many black people get hurt when you do it

BTW, do a search on this site of every foul racist word you can think of. I guarantee that the huge majority of people using them are left wingers

Are you serious??? You think that the only way a person can show their racism is by using the "N" word??? Don't you know that people get their racism noticed in ways that are often subtle?? Also, actions can convey racism, expressions can convey racism. Words can convey racism, such as this post from you!!! How stupid can you be???

yall have rendered the word racism meaningless the way you have tossed it around for the last 4 years. No matter what criticism ANYONE has of Obama racism charges get thrown out there.

 

[Vast LWC]

It's clearly a fake.

It clearly has been doctored all to hell. It's more a computer generated concoction than a simple scan of something. It's more a fake than the first piss poor forgery he produced. This guy is pissing in the face of ALL Americans with this pathetic garbage. Some people are loving his golden shower as he pisses in their face, and some are outraged. Once and for all there should be a congressional investigation into this so that people stop lying, forging, and pissing in faces. This issue should be put to rest, instead of obama just passing off this total crap expecting people to buy it.

Cool, and where did you say you got your degree in document verification again?

Oh, that's right, you didn't.

Funny how you just know it's "clearly" a fake though, isn't it?

Funny how you, some random internet ranter, seems to know better than the State of Hawaii.

Yep, "clearly", you're right, and it's a "fake".

 

[Political Junky]

Schieffer: Racism underlying Trump's assertions - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

 

[007]

It's clearly a fake.

It clearly has been doctored all to hell. It's more a computer generated concoction than a simple scan of something. It's more a fake than the first piss poor forgery he produced. This guy is pissing in the face of ALL Americans with this pathetic garbage. Some people are loving his golden shower as he pisses in their face, and some are outraged. Once and for all there should be a congressional investigation into this so that people stop lying, forging, and pissing in faces. This issue should be put to rest, instead of obama just passing off this total crap expecting people to buy it.

Cool, and where did you say you got your degree in document verification again?

Oh, that's right, you didn't.

Funny how you just know it's "clearly" a fake though, isn't it?

Funny how you, some random internet ranter, seems to know better than the State of Hawaii.

Yep, "clearly", you're right, and it's a "fake".

Nothing "funny" about it. I have Adobe Illustrator, and my son has a degree in Graphic Design. He too is very prolific with the use of AI. If you had watched the video instead of having your tongue buried up obama's ass, you'd see that the forgery he's now passing off is a pathetic computer generated concoction that any school kid using AI could have done.

Now get a clue. It's not pretty watching you morons talk like complete mental retards.

http://www.infowars.com/video-proof-obama-birth-certificate-a-fraud/

 

[zeitgeist2012]

A treasonist criminal is just that whether black, white, or green....

 

[Ravi]

It clearly has been doctored all to hell. It's more a computer generated concoction than a simple scan of something. It's more a fake than the first piss poor forgery he produced. This guy is pissing in the face of ALL Americans with this pathetic garbage. Some people are loving his golden shower as he pisses in their face, and some are outraged. Once and for all there should be a congressional investigation into this so that people stop lying, forging, and pissing in faces. This issue should be put to rest, instead of obama just passing off this total crap expecting people to buy it.

Cool, and where did you say you got your degree in document verification again?

Oh, that's right, you didn't.

Funny how you just know it's "clearly" a fake though, isn't it?

Funny how you, some random internet ranter, seems to know better than the State of Hawaii.

Yep, "clearly", you're right, and it's a "fake".

Nothing "funny" about it. I have Adobe Illustrator, and my son has a degree in Graphic Design. He too is very prolific with the use of AI. If you had watched the video instead of having your tongue buried up obama's ass, you'd see that the forgery he's now passing off is a pathetic computer generated concoction that any school kid using AI could have done.

Now get a clue. It's not pretty watching you morons talk like complete mental retards.

» Video: Proof Obama Birth Certificate a Fraud Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Infowars...oh, my ******* God!

Next up, Prison Planet's take.

 

[Ravi]

I own Adobe Illustrator therefore I am competent to judge an online document real or fake.

 

[zeitgeist2012]

Rachel Maddow MSNBC...a progressive Parrot...a great source of "Che" a' pet news....


Learn of the treason taking place in America...

http://2012zt.wordpress.com/

 

[washamericom]

Critics: Obama’s Latest Long-Form Birth Certificate Is a Fake …Update: More Expert Opinion | The Gateway Pundit

 

[zeitgeist2012]

Great Article....

 

[Toro]

It's absolutely shocking that the birfers refuse to accept that they are wrong. Who could have possibly seen that coming?

 

[zeitgeist2012]

It's absolutely shocking that the birfers refuse to accept that they are wrong. Who could have possibly seen that coming?

Another progressive parrot throwing around liberal buzz words to hide pure ignorance and facts behind.... I guess there a lot of indoctrinated and progressively disfunctionally educated americans who espouse their own eradication....

Here is more on the fake BC...

http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.c...latest-long-form-birth-certificate-is-a-fake/