Obama making promise that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel.

[EvilCat Breath]

This will be known in liberaland as "the Jerusalem Debacle".

 

[JGalt]

Huh, the libs were cheering their messiah for that.


Huh...

Now listen to them.

But Obama had sense enough not to do it. Even Bush knew better.

Wrong. They didn't have enough balls to do it. They also lied to the American voters.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The ultra right cons are the scum of America.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

The ultra right cons are the scum of America.

look who's having another good day

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Every POTUS since the passage of the Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 has semiannually signed a waiver, citing security concerns, whereby the U.S. refrained from acknowledging Jerusalem as Israel's capital and moving the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Additionally, Clinton chided Bush I for not recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital, Bush II chided Clinton. Obama chided neither but merely asserted that he'd see the embassy moved and Jerusalem recognized as the capital. (Source)

IMO, using the matter of recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital was a political talking point made either in full awareness that they weren't going to actually follow through or made sincerely while the candidates were in a state of ignorance with regard to the full set of factors involved.

Trump, in what is par for the course with him, is trying to have his cake and eat it too. Though he's proclaimed that the U.S. recognizes Jerusalem as the capital and move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, yet, according to Fox News, he's also going to continue signing the very same waivers Clinton, Bush II and Obama signed, thereby keeping the embassy in Tel Aviv. It remains to be seen whether he orders that the scope of under-construction consulate in Jerusalem be expanded to make it the new embassy.

Good Lord, this fuck is blaming Trump for following through with his promise.

If only all liberals would just fucking die already.

No idiot, he is just pointing out that, as usual, Trump the Moron is completely unable to assimilate or understand any new information presented to him, which was apparently a basic trait possessed by even the most incompetent Presidents before him.

 

[usmbguest5318]

Every POTUS since the passage of the Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 has semiannually signed a waiver, citing security concerns, whereby the U.S. refrained from acknowledging Jerusalem as Israel's capital and moving the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Additionally, Clinton chided Bush I for not recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital, Bush II chided Clinton. Obama chided neither but merely asserted that he'd see the embassy moved and Jerusalem recognized as the capital. (Source)

IMO, using the matter of recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital was a political talking point made either in full awareness that they weren't going to actually follow through or made sincerely while the candidates were in a state of ignorance with regard to the full set of factors involved.

Trump, in what is par for the course with him, is trying to have his cake and eat it too. Though he's proclaimed that the U.S. recognizes Jerusalem as the capital and move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, yet, according to Fox News, he's also going to continue signing the very same waivers Clinton, Bush II and Obama signed, thereby keeping the embassy in Tel Aviv. It remains to be seen whether he orders that the scope of under-construction consulate in Jerusalem be expanded to make it the new embassy.

Good Lord, this fuck is blaming Trump for following through with his promise.

If only all liberals would just fucking die already.

No idiot, he is just pointing out that, as usual, Trump the Moron is completely unable to assimilate or understand any new information presented to him, which was apparently a basic trait possessed by even the most incompetent Presidents before him.

Thank you.

Unable or unwilling, Lord only knows which, but either way, yes, that would the point of criticism, not whether Trump followed through on that particular promise or any promise in general.

I suspect that in Trump's mind, carrying through on the "Jerusalem" promise in some way ingratiates him with Jewish Americans who may not otherwise have favored him. It may be that he is right. The action, however, is in that light one of political expediency for Trump, not overall sagacity for the nation as a whole or for anyone other than "Israel-one-note" voters. Even for them, I don't know that the move is wise, but they got slightly more than lip service as goes what they wanted.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Every POTUS since the passage of the Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 has semiannually signed a waiver, citing security concerns, whereby the U.S. refrained from acknowledging Jerusalem as Israel's capital and moving the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Additionally, Clinton chided Bush I for not recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital, Bush II chided Clinton. Obama chided neither but merely asserted that he'd see the embassy moved and Jerusalem recognized as the capital. (Source)

IMO, using the matter of recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital was a political talking point made either in full awareness that they weren't going to actually follow through or made sincerely while the candidates were in a state of ignorance with regard to the full set of factors involved.

Trump, in what is par for the course with him, is trying to have his cake and eat it too. Though he's proclaimed that the U.S. recognizes Jerusalem as the capital and move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, yet, according to Fox News, he's also going to continue signing the very same waivers Clinton, Bush II and Obama signed, thereby keeping the embassy in Tel Aviv. It remains to be seen whether he orders that the scope of under-construction consulate in Jerusalem be expanded to make it the new embassy.

Good Lord, this fuck is blaming Trump for following through with his promise.

If only all liberals would just fucking die already.

No idiot, he is just pointing out that, as usual, Trump the Moron is completely unable to assimilate or understand any new information presented to him, which was apparently a basic trait possessed by even the most incompetent Presidents before him.

What's it to you lefties? Your life going to change because America recognizes a nations capital?
Just driven by your racial hatred of Jews is all.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Not much of it is antisemitism, weatherman, but a lot of it is anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian. The terms are separate, I think.

I am for a one state Greater Israel solution with Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel, no right of return, and expatriation of all in Israel who will not sign a loyalty oath to Israel.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Every POTUS since the passage of the Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 has semiannually signed a waiver, citing security concerns, whereby the U.S. refrained from acknowledging Jerusalem as Israel's capital and moving the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Additionally, Clinton chided Bush I for not recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital, Bush II chided Clinton. Obama chided neither but merely asserted that he'd see the embassy moved and Jerusalem recognized as the capital. (Source)

IMO, using the matter of recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital was a political talking point made either in full awareness that they weren't going to actually follow through or made sincerely while the candidates were in a state of ignorance with regard to the full set of factors involved.

Trump, in what is par for the course with him, is trying to have his cake and eat it too. Though he's proclaimed that the U.S. recognizes Jerusalem as the capital and move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, yet, according to Fox News, he's also going to continue signing the very same waivers Clinton, Bush II and Obama signed, thereby keeping the embassy in Tel Aviv. It remains to be seen whether he orders that the scope of under-construction consulate in Jerusalem be expanded to make it the new embassy.

In other words, it's all bullshit.

 

[usmbguest5318]

Every POTUS since the passage of the Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 has semiannually signed a waiver, citing security concerns, whereby the U.S. refrained from acknowledging Jerusalem as Israel's capital and moving the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Additionally, Clinton chided Bush I for not recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital, Bush II chided Clinton. Obama chided neither but merely asserted that he'd see the embassy moved and Jerusalem recognized as the capital. (Source)

IMO, using the matter of recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital was a political talking point made either in full awareness that they weren't going to actually follow through or made sincerely while the candidates were in a state of ignorance with regard to the full set of factors involved.

Trump, in what is par for the course with him, is trying to have his cake and eat it too. Though he's proclaimed that the U.S. recognizes Jerusalem as the capital and move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, yet, according to Fox News, he's also going to continue signing the very same waivers Clinton, Bush II and Obama signed, thereby keeping the embassy in Tel Aviv. It remains to be seen whether he orders that the scope of under-construction consulate in Jerusalem be expanded to make it the new embassy.

Good Lord, this fuck is blaming Trump for following through with his promise.

If only all liberals would just fucking die already.

No idiot, he is just pointing out that, as usual, Trump the Moron is completely unable to assimilate or understand any new information presented to him, which was apparently a basic trait possessed by even the most incompetent Presidents before him.

What's it to you lefties? Your life going to change because America recognizes a nations capital?
Just driven by your racial hatred of Jews is all.

Your life going to change because America recognizes a nations capital?

There's no way to be absolutely sure. Who thought Gavrilo Princip would effect a war? What's certain is that the most contentious and potentially destabilizing and certainly polarizing things about the Middle East are Israeli-Palestinian enmity and the resulting discord.

A material impact of Trump's move -- and especially the terms by which he conducted it, gives the lie to any notions one may have had that Trump, thus the U.S., has any desire to be a balanced arbiter and fomenter of peace between the two antagonists -- is that it disabuses Palestinians of their key diplomatic lever, thus pushing them into a corner as goes the prospects of they and Israelis conducting and arriving at an equitable peace solution. People are like every other creature: when pushed into a corner, they don't run; they don't hide; they bite.

And what benefit does the U.S. get as a result of moving its embassy to the newly recognized Jerusalem capital? None. The whole world, including the U.S., on the other hand, gets an increased level of tension in the Middle East.

 

[usmbguest5318]

Every POTUS since the passage of the Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 has semiannually signed a waiver, citing security concerns, whereby the U.S. refrained from acknowledging Jerusalem as Israel's capital and moving the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Additionally, Clinton chided Bush I for not recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital, Bush II chided Clinton. Obama chided neither but merely asserted that he'd see the embassy moved and Jerusalem recognized as the capital. (Source)

IMO, using the matter of recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital was a political talking point made either in full awareness that they weren't going to actually follow through or made sincerely while the candidates were in a state of ignorance with regard to the full set of factors involved.

Trump, in what is par for the course with him, is trying to have his cake and eat it too. Though he's proclaimed that the U.S. recognizes Jerusalem as the capital and move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, yet, according to Fox News, he's also going to continue signing the very same waivers Clinton, Bush II and Obama signed, thereby keeping the embassy in Tel Aviv. It remains to be seen whether he orders that the scope of under-construction consulate in Jerusalem be expanded to make it the new embassy.

In other words, it's all bullshit.

You just keeping thinking that....

 

[Weatherman2020]

Every POTUS since the passage of the Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 has semiannually signed a waiver, citing security concerns, whereby the U.S. refrained from acknowledging Jerusalem as Israel's capital and moving the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Additionally, Clinton chided Bush I for not recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital, Bush II chided Clinton. Obama chided neither but merely asserted that he'd see the embassy moved and Jerusalem recognized as the capital. (Source)

IMO, using the matter of recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital was a political talking point made either in full awareness that they weren't going to actually follow through or made sincerely while the candidates were in a state of ignorance with regard to the full set of factors involved.

Trump, in what is par for the course with him, is trying to have his cake and eat it too. Though he's proclaimed that the U.S. recognizes Jerusalem as the capital and move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, yet, according to Fox News, he's also going to continue signing the very same waivers Clinton, Bush II and Obama signed, thereby keeping the embassy in Tel Aviv. It remains to be seen whether he orders that the scope of under-construction consulate in Jerusalem be expanded to make it the new embassy.

Good Lord, this fuck is blaming Trump for following through with his promise.

If only all liberals would just fucking die already.

No idiot, he is just pointing out that, as usual, Trump the Moron is completely unable to assimilate or understand any new information presented to him, which was apparently a basic trait possessed by even the most incompetent Presidents before him.

What's it to you lefties? Your life going to change because America recognizes a nations capital?
Just driven by your racial hatred of Jews is all.

Your life going to change because America recognizes a nations capital?

There's no way to be absolutely sure. Who thought Gavrilo Princip would effect a war? What's certain is that the most contentious and potentially destabilizing and certainly polarizing things about the Middle East are Israeli-Palestinian enmity and the resulting discord.

A material impact of Trump's move -- and especially the terms by which he conducted it, gives the lie to any notions one may have had that Trump, thus the U.S., has any desire to be a balanced arbiter and fomenter of peace between the two antagonists -- is that it disabuses Palestinians of their key diplomatic lever, thus pushing them into a corner as goes the prospects of they and Israelis conducting and arriving at an equitable peace solution. People are like every other creature: when pushed into a corner, they don't run; they don't hide; they bite.

And what does the U.S. get as a result of moving its embassy to the newly recognized Jerusalem capital? Nothing.

How can anyone be a balanced arbitrator when one side vows to destroy the other and refuses to say there will ever be peace?
Fact is before 1967 Jews were prohibited from even entering Jerusalem in violation of the UN.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

You just keeping thinking that....

So, we make a declaration that Jerusalem is the capital, then everybody continues to sign waivers stating that it is not.

Do you know what that's called?

 

[usmbguest5318]

You just keeping thinking that....

So, we make a declaration that Jerusalem is the capital, then everybody continues to sign waivers stating that it is not.

Do you know what that's called?

TY for offering something immensely less ambiguous than your initial remark.

In other words, it's all bullshit.

Elevating to a new level the act of talking out of two sides of one's mouth, or more succinctly, dissembling.

 

[easyt65]

Huh, the libs were cheering their messiah for that.


Huh...

Now listen to them.

....yeah...but he didn't mean it.

 

[usmbguest5318]

Every POTUS since the passage of the Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 has semiannually signed a waiver, citing security concerns, whereby the U.S. refrained from acknowledging Jerusalem as Israel's capital and moving the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Additionally, Clinton chided Bush I for not recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital, Bush II chided Clinton. Obama chided neither but merely asserted that he'd see the embassy moved and Jerusalem recognized as the capital. (Source)

IMO, using the matter of recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital was a political talking point made either in full awareness that they weren't going to actually follow through or made sincerely while the candidates were in a state of ignorance with regard to the full set of factors involved.

Trump, in what is par for the course with him, is trying to have his cake and eat it too. Though he's proclaimed that the U.S. recognizes Jerusalem as the capital and move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, yet, according to Fox News, he's also going to continue signing the very same waivers Clinton, Bush II and Obama signed, thereby keeping the embassy in Tel Aviv. It remains to be seen whether he orders that the scope of under-construction consulate in Jerusalem be expanded to make it the new embassy.

Good Lord, this fuck is blaming Trump for following through with his promise.

If only all liberals would just fucking die already.

No idiot, he is just pointing out that, as usual, Trump the Moron is completely unable to assimilate or understand any new information presented to him, which was apparently a basic trait possessed by even the most incompetent Presidents before him.

What's it to you lefties? Your life going to change because America recognizes a nations capital?
Just driven by your racial hatred of Jews is all.

Your life going to change because America recognizes a nations capital?

There's no way to be absolutely sure. Who thought Gavrilo Princip would effect a war? What's certain is that the most contentious and potentially destabilizing and certainly polarizing things about the Middle East are Israeli-Palestinian enmity and the resulting discord.

A material impact of Trump's move -- and especially the terms by which he conducted it, gives the lie to any notions one may have had that Trump, thus the U.S., has any desire to be a balanced arbiter and fomenter of peace between the two antagonists -- is that it disabuses Palestinians of their key diplomatic lever, thus pushing them into a corner as goes the prospects of they and Israelis conducting and arriving at an equitable peace solution. People are like every other creature: when pushed into a corner, they don't run; they don't hide; they bite.

And what does the U.S. get as a result of moving its embassy to the newly recognized Jerusalem capital? Nothing.

How can anyone be a balanced arbitrator when one side vows to destroy the other and refuses to say there will ever be peace?
Fact is before 1967 Jews were prohibited from even entering Jerusalem in violation of the UN.

How can anyone be a balanced arbitrator when one side vows to destroy the other and refuses to say there will ever be peace?

By disregarding "death to them all" attestations and proposing and offering specific conflict resolution solution options that deliver proportionately balanced and legally enforceable gains and losses to each side.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

TY for offering something immensely less ambiguous than your initial remark.

I have a tendency to break things down into common-speak. I should know better, especially here.

Those who enacted the Jerusalem law should have expected it to eventually happen. Trump may be doing this because he is a dumbass, but I would have done it to further reveal the bullshit we got from the Clintons, Bushes, and the like (AKA the establishment).

And, yes, I do believe it is worth the security risk to expose that shit. We are being robbed of resources by our own motherfucking government Is it wrong to interrupt a burglar in the act?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Xelor, the Palestinian side does not belief conflict resolution.

They believe in victory.

The believe in a Greater Palestinian State and the expatriation of the Jewish population.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

By disregarding "death to them all" attestations and proposing and offering specific conflict resolution solution options that deliver proportionately balanced and legally enforceable gains and losses to each side.

Normally, I would agree that compromise is the best solution.

But, this has been going on for how long? Mediation is over. The parties are at an impasse. It's time for war and a decisive victor, and we should get the fuck out of the way and let it happen.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Good Lord, this fuck is blaming Trump for following through with his promise.

If only all liberals would just fucking die already.

No idiot, he is just pointing out that, as usual, Trump the Moron is completely unable to assimilate or understand any new information presented to him, which was apparently a basic trait possessed by even the most incompetent Presidents before him.

What's it to you lefties? Your life going to change because America recognizes a nations capital?
Just driven by your racial hatred of Jews is all.

Your life going to change because America recognizes a nations capital?

There's no way to be absolutely sure. Who thought Gavrilo Princip would effect a war? What's certain is that the most contentious and potentially destabilizing and certainly polarizing things about the Middle East are Israeli-Palestinian enmity and the resulting discord.

A material impact of Trump's move -- and especially the terms by which he conducted it, gives the lie to any notions one may have had that Trump, thus the U.S., has any desire to be a balanced arbiter and fomenter of peace between the two antagonists -- is that it disabuses Palestinians of their key diplomatic lever, thus pushing them into a corner as goes the prospects of they and Israelis conducting and arriving at an equitable peace solution. People are like every other creature: when pushed into a corner, they don't run; they don't hide; they bite.

And what does the U.S. get as a result of moving its embassy to the newly recognized Jerusalem capital? Nothing.

How can anyone be a balanced arbitrator when one side vows to destroy the other and refuses to say there will ever be peace?
Fact is before 1967 Jews were prohibited from even entering Jerusalem in violation of the UN.

How can anyone be a balanced arbitrator when one side vows to destroy the other and refuses to say there will ever be peace?

By disregarding "death to them all" attestations and proposing and offering specific conflict resolution solution options that deliver proportionately balanced and legally enforceable gains and losses to each side.

Disregard one sides call for genocide? You're thick as a brick.
Palestinians have stated they do not want peace while one Jew lives in the region. You can disregard all you want, but that is a show stopper for any peace process.

This has the left tied in knots. Trump has been painted that he’s a white supremacist and racist. What type of white supremacist or racist would recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel strengthening the Jewish homeland?