Obama fundraises while Putin runs amok

[Camp]

Reagan actually ordered the American Navy to back down from the Soviet Navy when the US Navy tried to investigate the crash site and search and recover remains and debris and the Soviet Navy threatened hostilities if the US Navy attempted to move into the search area.

 

[blackhawk]

The Bear Is Loose | Washington Free Beacon

Megyn Kelly asked last night, "What is wrong with this President, does he have even a clue on being a Leader?"

The answer is no and this article sums it up best.. He is a self indulgent Community Organizer who doesn't have the time nor does he care to make the time to lead this nation. He has fundraisers, vacations, golf outings , photo ops, WH concerts- who the hell has time to govern?

This is pretty much what I have come to expect from our current President it's just who he is and it's not going to change the tyrants dictators,and radical extremist are going to do as they please and we may as well get used to that for the next few years.

 

[Jarhead]

Reagan actually ordered the American Navy to back down from the Soviet Navy when the US Navy tried to investigate the crash site and search and recover remains and debris and the Soviet Navy threatened hostilities if the US Navy attempted to move into the search area.

I would pray to God that Obama did the same thing. A response to this is by no means should include military action.

Strength does not always mean military action.

Sometimes strength is shown by applying restraint.

I look forward to see how Obama labels this action. If he does not make it clear that Russia gave the 9 year old the gun so all blame is on them, then he will be doing nothing but saying "We be afraid of that there Putin"

 

[BlindBoo]

Never let a tragedy go to waste. Determined to soil the President, the rabid right can't control itself and is an embarrassment to the entire country.

 

[Camp]

Reagan actually ordered the American Navy to back down from the Soviet Navy when the US Navy tried to investigate the crash site and search and recover remains and debris and the Soviet Navy threatened hostilities if the US Navy attempted to move into the search area.

I would pray to God that Obama did the same thing. A response to this is by no means should include military action.

Strength does not always mean military action.

Sometimes strength is shown by applying restraint.

I look forward to see how Obama labels this action. If he does not make it clear that Russia gave the 9 year old the gun so all blame is on them, then he will be doing nothing but saying "We be afraid of that there Putin"

I agree, military action is not called for. The point of my post was to show that all this cheering for Reagan, and all the comparing, is foolish. I do however remember being pissed off at Reagan not being more forceful about searching the crash site.

 

[Jarhead]

Latest, and the Putin gang in the US are openly supporting their strong leader:

U.S. intelligence says missile likely fired by pro-Russian separatists

It's most likely that the missile that brought down MH17 was fired inside Ukraine, by pro-Russian separatists, a preliminary classified analysis by U.S. intelligence says.

CNN's Barbara Starr has learned that the analysis, although preliminary, concludes the missile was from a Russian made BuK system, also known by NATO as an SA-11.

Starr heard the details of the analysis from a U.S. defense official who has direct access to the latest information but who declined to be identified due to the sensitivity of the information.

“We cannot say with complete certainty but we do not think the missile came from the Russian side of the border,” the official said. “All the indications are it was fired from inside eastern Ukraine.”

If an adult gives a 9 year old a gun...and the 9 year old accidentally shoots his brother with it...

Who do you blame?

Pretending the Russian rebels in Ukraine are 9 year old kids just highlights your sympathies with Mother Russia.

The fact that you did not get it shows me a lot about you....

But seeing as you are somewhat naïve in the use of metaphors and analogies....I will restate it....

If a gun owner gave a gun to someone who admittedly never held one and has no idea how it works...and tells that person to use it anyway...and that person shoots himself in the head accidentally because he didn't know which way was up...

Was it a suicide or was it negligence, possible homicide on the gun owners part?

 

[peach174]

Once you know the narrative "Anything President Obama does = bad", then you don't even need to click on the thread.

And with folks like you, anything Obama does is great.

That rhetoric aside, Kennedy showed strength with the USSR per Cuba missile crisis, Reagan showed strength with the USSR per the Korean air disaster and Obama fundraises.

An Ambassador is a victim of a terrorist attack and Obama is in Nevada fundraising within 24 hours.

Russia invades Ukraine and Obama fundraises within hours for the DNC

As many as 23 Americans are victims of an unprompted attack over Ukraine and Obama fundraises within hours.

Some leader of the free world.

But, of course, we are in a much more tranquil world thanks to the fundraiser in chief.

"nothing to see here folks....just look at the shiny object"

What exactly did Reagan do that "showed strength" besides a TV speech? (which took placed FOUR days later, btw, even tho it was known right away who shot the plane down)

Regan used strength.
Regan adopted a strategy of releasing a substantial amount of hitherto highly classified intelligence information in order to exploit a major propaganda advantage over the U.S.S.R

Obama should do the same and make Russia look like they are a terrorist backing rogue state. Something that Russia does not want to be seen as.

 

[Peach]

And with folks like you, anything Obama does is great.

That rhetoric aside, Kennedy showed strength with the USSR per Cuba missile crisis, Reagan showed strength with the USSR per the Korean air disaster and Obama fundraises.

An Ambassador is a victim of a terrorist attack and Obama is in Nevada fundraising within 24 hours.

Russia invades Ukraine and Obama fundraises within hours for the DNC

As many as 23 Americans are victims of an unprompted attack over Ukraine and Obama fundraises within hours.

Some leader of the free world.

But, of course, we are in a much more tranquil world thanks to the fundraiser in chief.

"nothing to see here folks....just look at the shiny object"

I have found no confirmation any Americans died, if you have, please provide any info. Alsp "admiring Putins strength" is like admiring Hitler and Stain's "strength". Both killed millions. Putin supporters are back tracking it appears.

Blah blah blah....no proof of Americans......

That's why it isn't important to address it with the American people.

Need to see the manifest to determine that a human tragedy occurred.

Gotcha.

Any excuse to protect a man that FUNDRAISED while claiming to be the LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD AND 298 FREE PEOPLE DIED.

Hitler, Stalin, ....toss around the "gotcha" names all you want....

But here is fact....

Putin is in power right now and Obama is in power right now. Comparing how they come across from a "confidence" standpoint is important.

It does not mean we admire Putin.......but that is the only defense you have for a man that shows absolutely no strength.

One cannot refute without comparisons, the US was attacked 2001, the leader of the attackers died 10 YEARS later. The US invaded a nation, spent 1.8 trillion thus far, found -0- threats to the US. The US suffered thousands of lost lives in a preventable flood. And you say Obama is weak? He is Atlas next to the Bush boy.

 

[Jarhead]

Never let a tragedy go to waste. Determined to soil the President, the rabid right can't control itself and is an embarrassment to the entire country.

Never let a tragedy go to waste. If we can criticize those that criticize the President, we will.

Oh , by the way.....KATRINA....you ******* asshole.

 

[jknowgood]

The Bear Is Loose | Washington Free Beacon

Megyn Kelly asked last night, "What is wrong with this President, does he have even a clue on being a Leader?"

The answer is no and this article sums it up best.. He is a self indulgent Community Organizer who doesn't have the time nor does he care to make the time to lead this nation. He has fundraisers, vacations, golf outings , photo ops, WH concerts- who the hell has time to govern?

awww... is the rightwingnut blogosphere upset that the president is good at fundraising.

tell ya what... when congress stops fundraising, no doubt he will, too

besides, weren't you wackos rooting for putin a month or so ago? now you want the president to do what? bomb bomb bomb Russia?

yeah, that oughta work.

Yes, fundraising and community agitating is the only things Obama is good at. We get it.

 

[Jarhead]

I have found no confirmation any Americans died, if you have, please provide any info. Alsp "admiring Putins strength" is like admiring Hitler and Stain's "strength". Both killed millions. Putin supporters are back tracking it appears.

Blah blah blah....no proof of Americans......

That's why it isn't important to address it with the American people.

Need to see the manifest to determine that a human tragedy occurred.

Gotcha.

Any excuse to protect a man that FUNDRAISED while claiming to be the LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD AND 298 FREE PEOPLE DIED.

Hitler, Stalin, ....toss around the "gotcha" names all you want....

But here is fact....

Putin is in power right now and Obama is in power right now. Comparing how they come across from a "confidence" standpoint is important.

It does not mean we admire Putin.......but that is the only defense you have for a man that shows absolutely no strength.

One cannot refute without comparisons, the US was attacked 2001, the leader of the attackers died 10 YEARS later. The US invaded a nation, spent 1.8 trillion thus far, found -0- threats to the US. The US suffered thousands of lost lives in a preventable flood. And you say Obama is weak? He is Atlas next to the Bush boy.

And there you have it.

Pathetic.

 

[Katzndogz]

It's a matter of priorities. Fundraising for democrats, even democrats running away from him, is the single most important function of this presidunce. Everything pales in comparison to fundraising.

It is true, military action is not called for because this is likely an accident by someone who thought they were shooting down a cargo plane and did not intend to shoot down a passenger plane. The solution is for Ukraine to recognize the vote of Donetsk and let the region go the way Crimea went. As it is, doing nothing is going to give Russia an excellent excuse to overtake Ukraine and restore order so that more aircraft are not shot down.

 

[Peach]

And with folks like you, anything Obama does is great.

That rhetoric aside, Kennedy showed strength with the USSR per Cuba missile crisis, Reagan showed strength with the USSR per the Korean air disaster and Obama fundraises.

An Ambassador is a victim of a terrorist attack and Obama is in Nevada fundraising within 24 hours.

Russia invades Ukraine and Obama fundraises within hours for the DNC

As many as 23 Americans are victims of an unprompted attack over Ukraine and Obama fundraises within hours.

Some leader of the free world.

But, of course, we are in a much more tranquil world thanks to the fundraiser in chief.

"nothing to see here folks....just look at the shiny object"

What exactly did Reagan do that "showed strength" besides a TV speech? (which took placed FOUR days later, btw, even tho it was known right away who shot the plane down)

Regan used strength.
Regan adopted a strategy of releasing a substantial amount of hitherto highly classified intelligence information in order to exploit a major propaganda advantage over the U.S.S.R

Obama should do the same and make Russia look like they are a terrorist backing rogue state. Something that Russia does not want to be seen as.

Reagan posed, napped & impressed the TV generation, America was almost as helpless as under Bush II. In 1983, Lebanon, 241 US service members were killed, Reagan appointed a commitee(.):

President Ronald Reagan appointed a military fact-finding committee headed by retired Admiral Robert L. J. Long to investigate the bombing. The commission's report found senior military officials responsible for security lapses and blamed the military chain of command for the disaster. It suggested that there might have been many fewer deaths if the barracks guards had carried loaded weapons and a barrier more substantial than the barbed wire the bomber drove over easily. The commission also noted that the "prevalent view" among U.S. commanders was that there was a direct link between the navy shelling of the Muslims at Suq-al-Garb and the truck bomb attack.[129][130]

 

[BlindBoo]

What did Obama do?
He banned the sale of the sale of all Russian-made AK-47 semi-automatic rifles, Saiga-12 shotguns, and all other firearms and parts manufactured by Kalishnikov.
This is not going to do anything at all.
He should put sanctions on Russian Oil.

A strong leader puts sanctions where it really hurts not what Obama did, which is nothing.

Guess what?

The sanctions imposed by the Treasury Department would ban people in the United States from providing new financing to two major Russian banks and two major Russian energy firms, which would in effect limit their access to U.S. capital markets

Read more: US imposes new sanctions on Russia | TheHill
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Announcement of Treasury Sanctions on Entities Within the Financial Services and Energy Sectors of Russia, Against Arms or Related Materiel Entities, and those Undermining Ukraine's Sovereignty

 

[mudwhistle]

What exactly did Reagan do that "showed strength" besides a TV speech? (which took placed FOUR days later, btw, even tho it was known right away who shot the plane down)

Reagan called it what it was.

Bet Obama doesn't.

Lets see........

Reagan waited 4 days to even say anything even tho the Soviets admitted it right off the bat....and he gave a TV speech.....big whoop!

Now...we are about 24 hours into this situation and no one knows FOR SURE who shot down the plane. And you want to compare the two? riiiiiiiiiiight.

At least he didn't blame it on a disgusting video before he knew the facts.....


Just sayin......

 

[Kosh]

What did Obama do?
He banned the sale of the sale of all Russian-made AK-47 semi-automatic rifles, Saiga-12 shotguns, and all other firearms and parts manufactured by Kalishnikov.
This is not going to do anything at all.
He should put sanctions on Russian Oil.

A strong leader puts sanctions where it really hurts not what Obama did, which is nothing.

Guess what?

The sanctions imposed by the Treasury Department would ban people in the United States from providing new financing to two major Russian banks and two major Russian energy firms, which would in effect limit their access to U.S. capital markets

Read more: US imposes new sanctions on Russia | TheHill
Follow us: [MENTION=27326]The[/MENTION]hill on Twitter | TheHill on Facebook

Announcement of Treasury Sanctions on Entities Within the Financial Services and Energy Sectors of Russia, Against Arms or Related Materiel Entities, and those Undermining Ukraine's Sovereignty

Oh my the sanctions game even though China is backing Russia, yeah that will work...

Poor far left can not admit that Obama is a poor leader and worse than Bush...

 

[BlindBoo]

Latest, and the Putin gang in the US are openly supporting their strong leader:

U.S. intelligence says missile likely fired by pro-Russian separatists

It's most likely that the missile that brought down MH17 was fired inside Ukraine, by pro-Russian separatists, a preliminary classified analysis by U.S. intelligence says.

CNN's Barbara Starr has learned that the analysis, although preliminary, concludes the missile was from a Russian made BuK system, also known by NATO as an SA-11.

Starr heard the details of the analysis from a U.S. defense official who has direct access to the latest information but who declined to be identified due to the sensitivity of the information.

“We cannot say with complete certainty but we do not think the missile came from the Russian side of the border,” the official said. “All the indications are it was fired from inside eastern Ukraine.”

If an adult gives a 9 year old a gun...and the 9 year old accidentally shoots his brother with it...

Who do you blame?

Obama of course. Why didn't the New Messiah bans those guns in the first place like he promised his disciples he would.

Impeach. Impeach.

Oh in reality, I recall reports that the separatists recently captured those missiles.

 

[mudwhistle]

I don't think this is Russia collectively at fault.

This was a criminal act by person or persons who fired on this aircraft without confirming it's identity.

The guilty party will receive a fair trial and a quick execution via 9mm in the back of the head.

 

[BlindBoo]

Never let a tragedy go to waste. Determined to soil the President, the rabid right can't control itself and is an embarrassment to the entire country.

Never let a tragedy go to waste. If we can criticize those that criticize the President, we will.

Oh , by the way.....KATRINA....you ******* asshole.

That's awesome. KATRINA!!!!!

 

[Peach]

If an adult gives a 9 year old a gun...and the 9 year old accidentally shoots his brother with it...

Who do you blame?

Pretending the Russian rebels in Ukraine are 9 year old kids just highlights your sympathies with Mother Russia.

The fact that you did not get it shows me a lot about you....

But seeing as you are somewhat naïve in the use of metaphors and analogies....I will restate it....

If a gun owner gave a gun to someone who admittedly never held one and has no idea how it works...and tells that person to use it anyway...and that person shoots himself in the head accidentally because he didn't know which way was up...

Was it a suicide or was it negligence, possible homicide on the gun owners part?

US intelligence reports knowledge was required to send the rocket, perhaps our intelligence is incorrect; I contnue to see more support for Russia than the USA here, that is troubling.