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Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate
Suggests controversy could hurt president's re-election chances
Posted: January 18, 2011
8:05 pm Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2011 WorldNetDaily


Neil Abercrombie
Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie suggested in an interview published today that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Barack Obama may not exist within the vital records maintained by the Hawaii Department of Health.

Abercrombie told the Honolulu Star Advertiser he was searching within the Hawaii Department of Health to find definitive vital records that would prove Obama was born in Hawaii, because the continuing eligibility controversy could hurt the president's chances of re-election in 2012.

Donalyn Dela Cruz, Abercrombie's spokeswoman in Honolulu, ignored again today another in a series of repeated requests made by WND for an interview with the governor.

Toward the end of the interview, the newspaper asked Abercrombie: "You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plan to release more information regarding President Barack Obama's birth certificate. How is that coming?"

In his response, Abercrombie acknowledged the birth certificate issue will have "political implications" for the next presidential election "that we simply cannot have."

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Suggesting he was still intent on producing more birth records on Obama from the Hawaii Department of Health vital records vault, Abercrombie told the newspaper there was a recording of the Obama birth in the state archives that he wants to make public.

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My bet is still that it simply shows that his parents were not married. There is a real Bastard in the White House. But then again, there usually is.
 
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The idea that there is nothing to this issue is absolutely, 100% absurd. Here we have a man whose background offers multiple possibilities for his eligibility to be in question - father's status, Indonesian citizenship for Barack, Kenyan officials celebrating "one of their citizens" becoming a U.S. president, made all very real and possible by Obama fighting like the devil (no pun intended) in lawsuits(pubic records prove it) to keep from having to disclose his long form birth certificate, along with virtually every record that could identify his citizenship status. His supposed friend, the Hawaiian governor, made a big public statement about being determined to "find it" (his pal, Obama can release it any time), and then backs off after a few days, with some lame, unintelligible explanation not from him, but his spokesperson.

This whole thing stinks to high heaven. The degree of suspension of disbelief we are now being expected to manifest to align with the notion that there is nothing amiss here, lest we be mocked as a fringe societal contingent - even though 60% of polled American have doubts- is off is some insane fairy land somewhere, now, simply to accommodate Obama, his followers, and a timid press that finds this issue too awkward to grapple with.

However, several states have been influenced by the so-called "crazy, fringe birthers' into enacting the first step of legislation to ensure that only a candidate who can produce a long form birth certificate will get on the ballot in that state. there are 11 states so far on this. Arizona looked like a failed attempt, but turned out to simply be re-routed in the process and is still expected by the sponsors and even democrats, to pass. Even liberal Mother Jones News essentially admitted Obama is probably not qualified when they said that if Arizona passes, Obama won't be able to run there!

Just one state that disallows Obama to get on the 2012 ballot in that state opens this whole thing up. So much for the "fringe birthers" not being capable of bringing about change on this issue.

We have an ongoing series of animated parodies, that conservatives love and think are funny, and democrats hate and do not think are funny, and it's amazing how freaked out liberals get when the issue is framed calmly and properly.

If any liberals want to take up the debate, answer 1 question: why is Obama fighting disclosure of his records? No dismissive, hit-and-run, smarmy one-liners with superior posturing, thanks, just the facts. There are only 3 possible answers; 1. He is ineligible, 2. He enjoys "playing with the birthers", and that makes him sadistic and therefore mentally ill and needs to be removed immediately on those grounds as someone mentally ill cannot, at the very least, have access to the nuke codes or 3, He's paranoid, with the same result as 2.

A two-minute phone call when Obama's on his next vacation at the latest is all it would take to put this to rest.

There is nothing wrong, right? Everything's peachy. Sure, nothing suspicious about this at all.

Uh-huh. And I have a bridge to sell you.
 
The idea that there is nothing to this issue is absolutely, 100% absurd. Here we have a man whose background offers multiple possibilities for his eligibility to be in question - father's status, Indonesian citizenship for Barack, Kenyan officials celebrating "one of their citizens" becoming a U.S. president, made all very real and possible by Obama fighting like the devil (no pun intended) in lawsuits(pubic records prove it) to keep from having to disclose his long form birth certificate, along with virtually every record that could identify his citizenship status. His supposed friend, the Hawaiian governor, made a big public statement about being determined to "find it" (his pal, Obama can release it any time), and then backs off after a few days, with some lame, unintelligible explanation not from him, but his spokesperson.

This whole thing stinks to high heaven. The degree of suspension of disbelief we are now being expected to manifest to align with the notion that there is nothing amiss here, lest we be mocked as a fringe societal contingent - even though 60% of polled American have doubts- is off is some insane fairy land somewhere, now, simply to accommodate Obama, his followers, and a timid press that finds this issue too awkward to grapple with.

However, several states have been influenced by the so-called "crazy, fringe birthers' into enacting the first step of legislation to ensure that only a candidate who can produce a long form birth certificate will get on the ballot in that state. there are 11 states so far on this. Arizona looked like a failed attempt, but turned out to simply be re-routed in the process and is still expected by the sponsors and even democrats, to pass. Even liberal Mother Jones News essentially admitted Obama is probably not qualified when they said that if Arizona passes, Obama won't be able to run there!

Just one state that disallows Obama to get on the 2012 ballot in that state opens this whole thing up. So much for the "fringe birthers" not being capable of bringing about change on this issue.

We have an ongoing series of animated parodies, that conservatives love and think are funny, and democrats hate and do not think are funny, and it's amazing how freaked out liberals get when the issue is framed calmly and properly.

If any liberals want to take up the debate, answer 1 question: why is Obama fighting disclosure of his records? No dismissive, hit-and-run, smarmy one-liners with superior posturing, thanks, just the facts. There are only 3 possible answers; 1. He is ineligible, 2. He enjoys "playing with the birthers", and that makes him sadistic and therefore mentally ill and needs to be removed immediately on those grounds as someone mentally ill cannot, at the very least, have access to the nuke codes or 3, He's paranoid, with the same result as 2.

A two-minute phone call when Obama's on his next vacation at the latest is all it would take to put this to rest.

There is nothing wrong, right? Everything's peachy. Sure, nothing suspicious about this at all.

Uh-huh. And I have a bridge to sell you.

Shut up, moron. His mother was a citizen, he's a citizen. It's plain and simple logic, and all your spitting and sputtering is not going to change that.

He is hiding his BC, and other records, not because of the birther shit, but because there is something else that he is hiding. What it is I don't know, but it must be something significant. Maybe it's the fact he was born under another name. Maybe it's the fact he traveled under an alias. Maybe it's the fact he got scholarships and grants that he shouldn't have.

Whatever he is hiding, you should just drop it, and wait for him to be voted out in 2012. Or else you'll end up hearing two words that will scare the living shit out of any US citizen voter with a brain...

President Biden.

Or he is made ineligible,

President Boehner.

Do you really want to wake up one day, and hear either of those choices???

I don't.
 
The idea that there is nothing to this issue is absolutely, 100% absurd. Here we have a man whose background offers multiple possibilities for his eligibility to be in question - father's status, Indonesian citizenship for Barack, Kenyan officials celebrating "one of their citizens" becoming a U.S. president, made all very real and possible by Obama fighting like the devil (no pun intended) in lawsuits(pubic records prove it) to keep from having to disclose his long form birth certificate, along with virtually every record that could identify his citizenship status. His supposed friend, the Hawaiian governor, made a big public statement about being determined to "find it" (his pal, Obama can release it any time), and then backs off after a few days, with some lame, unintelligible explanation not from him, but his spokesperson.

This whole thing stinks to high heaven. The degree of suspension of disbelief we are now being expected to manifest to align with the notion that there is nothing amiss here, lest we be mocked as a fringe societal contingent - even though 60% of polled American have doubts- is off is some insane fairy land somewhere, now, simply to accommodate Obama, his followers, and a timid press that finds this issue too awkward to grapple with.

However, several states have been influenced by the so-called "crazy, fringe birthers' into enacting the first step of legislation to ensure that only a candidate who can produce a long form birth certificate will get on the ballot in that state. there are 11 states so far on this. Arizona looked like a failed attempt, but turned out to simply be re-routed in the process and is still expected by the sponsors and even democrats, to pass. Even liberal Mother Jones News essentially admitted Obama is probably not qualified when they said that if Arizona passes, Obama won't be able to run there!

Just one state that disallows Obama to get on the 2012 ballot in that state opens this whole thing up. So much for the "fringe birthers" not being capable of bringing about change on this issue.

We have an ongoing series of animated parodies, that conservatives love and think are funny, and democrats hate and do not think are funny, and it's amazing how freaked out liberals get when the issue is framed calmly and properly.

If any liberals want to take up the debate, answer 1 question: why is Obama fighting disclosure of his records? No dismissive, hit-and-run, smarmy one-liners with superior posturing, thanks, just the facts. There are only 3 possible answers; 1. He is ineligible, 2. He enjoys "playing with the birthers", and that makes him sadistic and therefore mentally ill and needs to be removed immediately on those grounds as someone mentally ill cannot, at the very least, have access to the nuke codes or 3, He's paranoid, with the same result as 2.

A two-minute phone call when Obama's on his next vacation at the latest is all it would take to put this to rest.

There is nothing wrong, right? Everything's peachy. Sure, nothing suspicious about this at all.

Uh-huh. And I have a bridge to sell you.

Care to make it interesting?

I'll bet you that President Obama is on the ballot in all 50 states for the 2012 election. If he isn't you win; if he is, I win?

The stakes?

The winner gets to pick the avatar of the loser from election day through February 1 of 2013. One picture only contingent on the TOS.
 
The idea that there is nothing to this issue is absolutely, 100% absurd. Here we have a man whose background offers multiple possibilities for his eligibility to be in question - father's status, Indonesian citizenship for Barack, Kenyan officials celebrating "one of their citizens" becoming a U.S. president, made all very real and possible by Obama fighting like the devil (no pun intended) in lawsuits(pubic records prove it) to keep from having to disclose his long form birth certificate, along with virtually every record that could identify his citizenship status. His supposed friend, the Hawaiian governor, made a big public statement about being determined to "find it" (his pal, Obama can release it any time), and then backs off after a few days, with some lame, unintelligible explanation not from him, but his spokesperson.

This whole thing stinks to high heaven. The degree of suspension of disbelief we are now being expected to manifest to align with the notion that there is nothing amiss here, lest we be mocked as a fringe societal contingent - even though 60% of polled American have doubts- is off is some insane fairy land somewhere, now, simply to accommodate Obama, his followers, and a timid press that finds this issue too awkward to grapple with.

However, several states have been influenced by the so-called "crazy, fringe birthers' into enacting the first step of legislation to ensure that only a candidate who can produce a long form birth certificate will get on the ballot in that state. there are 11 states so far on this. Arizona looked like a failed attempt, but turned out to simply be re-routed in the process and is still expected by the sponsors and even democrats, to pass. Even liberal Mother Jones News essentially admitted Obama is probably not qualified when they said that if Arizona passes, Obama won't be able to run there!

Just one state that disallows Obama to get on the 2012 ballot in that state opens this whole thing up. So much for the "fringe birthers" not being capable of bringing about change on this issue.

We have an ongoing series of animated parodies, that conservatives love and think are funny, and democrats hate and do not think are funny, and it's amazing how freaked out liberals get when the issue is framed calmly and properly.

If any liberals want to take up the debate, answer 1 question: why is Obama fighting disclosure of his records? No dismissive, hit-and-run, smarmy one-liners with superior posturing, thanks, just the facts. There are only 3 possible answers; 1. He is ineligible, 2. He enjoys "playing with the birthers", and that makes him sadistic and therefore mentally ill and needs to be removed immediately on those grounds as someone mentally ill cannot, at the very least, have access to the nuke codes or 3, He's paranoid, with the same result as 2.

A two-minute phone call when Obama's on his next vacation at the latest is all it would take to put this to rest.

There is nothing wrong, right? Everything's peachy. Sure, nothing suspicious about this at all.

Uh-huh. And I have a bridge to sell you.

Shut up, moron. His mother was a citizen, he's a citizen. It's plain and simple logic, and all your spitting and sputtering is not going to change that.

He is hiding his BC, and other records, not because of the birther shit, but because there is something else that he is hiding. What it is I don't know, but it must be something significant. Maybe it's the fact he was born under another name. Maybe it's the fact he traveled under an alias. Maybe it's the fact he got scholarships and grants that he shouldn't have.

Whatever he is hiding, you should just drop it, and wait for him to be voted out in 2012. Or else you'll end up hearing two words that will scare the living shit out of any US citizen voter with a brain...

President Biden.

Or he is made ineligible,

President Boehner.

Do you really want to wake up one day, and hear either of those choices???

I don't.

Ah, "shut up" the usual response from a liberal on this issue. Other all-time favorites are, "you are a racist", "he's president, get over it", "ha ha ha, lol" and other epic moments of intellectual genius.

The fact is that you don't know why he's hiding the records. You state, like some kind of actual authority, that it has to do with something else besides his eligibility, but you're just blowing angry wind - you have no idea whatsoever. nor can you know. Nor can anyone. Which is why states are demanding his long form to get on their ballots - they want to know. It may very well be - and probably is - that he's hiding his records because he is not eligible. Given his background, various citizenships and his father's citizenship, it's the most likely reason.

You can't be president of the united states and simultaneously have a hissy fit about privacy. That all vanishes when you're the most visible person in the world.

Liberals try to make it seem as though this is so unthinkable that it's impossible. Not only is it not impossible, it's likely.

Remember that once everyone thought it was a 'right wing conspiracy' - Hillary's words - when people were accusing Clinton of having an affair. He slandered his lover mercilessly, lied like crazy to the press and everyone, lied before a grand jury - which cost him his law license for life - and when it turned out that she had saved his dried sperm on her blue dress (she's clearly another typical sick liberal) and could clear her name with DNA identification, Clinton humiliated himself and his party - and this country - by having to go on prime time TV and admit to the scumbag affair, of lying to the people he swore to serve, as well as to a grand jury. But typical of liberals, they now regard Clinton, this totally discredited scumbag who had sex IN THE WHITE HOUSE with someone not his wife - repeatedly - while we paid for it not to mention the morality and ethics - as a standard-bearer of the democrat party. And indeed, by that measure, he certainly is.

Obama's secrecy is making it clear that his birth certificate is his "blue dress', only this time it isn't a mere affair - this time it's a constitutional crisis because if he is not eligible,then everything he signed into law is null and void, as are his supreme court appointments, absolutely explicit per the constitution, and the constitution must be obeyed, and it will be.

If he is removed on these grounds, Biden is also nullified per the constitution and you're right, Boehner becomes president. And he probably will. The new state laws demanding a long form birth certificate will be the brick wall through which Obama's BS cannot pass. He's going to have to come up with some kind of answer one way or the other, and fast.
 
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The idea that there is nothing to this issue is absolutely, 100% absurd. Here we have a man whose background offers multiple possibilities for his eligibility to be in question - father's status, Indonesian citizenship for Barack, Kenyan officials celebrating "one of their citizens" becoming a U.S. president, made all very real and possible by Obama fighting like the devil (no pun intended) in lawsuits(pubic records prove it) to keep from having to disclose his long form birth certificate, along with virtually every record that could identify his citizenship status. His supposed friend, the Hawaiian governor, made a big public statement about being determined to "find it" (his pal, Obama can release it any time), and then backs off after a few days, with some lame, unintelligible explanation not from him, but his spokesperson.

This whole thing stinks to high heaven. The degree of suspension of disbelief we are now being expected to manifest to align with the notion that there is nothing amiss here, lest we be mocked as a fringe societal contingent - even though 60% of polled American have doubts- is off is some insane fairy land somewhere, now, simply to accommodate Obama, his followers, and a timid press that finds this issue too awkward to grapple with.

However, several states have been influenced by the so-called "crazy, fringe birthers' into enacting the first step of legislation to ensure that only a candidate who can produce a long form birth certificate will get on the ballot in that state. there are 11 states so far on this. Arizona looked like a failed attempt, but turned out to simply be re-routed in the process and is still expected by the sponsors and even democrats, to pass. Even liberal Mother Jones News essentially admitted Obama is probably not qualified when they said that if Arizona passes, Obama won't be able to run there!

Just one state that disallows Obama to get on the 2012 ballot in that state opens this whole thing up. So much for the "fringe birthers" not being capable of bringing about change on this issue.

We have an ongoing series of animated parodies, that conservatives love and think are funny, and democrats hate and do not think are funny, and it's amazing how freaked out liberals get when the issue is framed calmly and properly.

If any liberals want to take up the debate, answer 1 question: why is Obama fighting disclosure of his records? No dismissive, hit-and-run, smarmy one-liners with superior posturing, thanks, just the facts. There are only 3 possible answers; 1. He is ineligible, 2. He enjoys "playing with the birthers", and that makes him sadistic and therefore mentally ill and needs to be removed immediately on those grounds as someone mentally ill cannot, at the very least, have access to the nuke codes or 3, He's paranoid, with the same result as 2.

A two-minute phone call when Obama's on his next vacation at the latest is all it would take to put this to rest.

There is nothing wrong, right? Everything's peachy. Sure, nothing suspicious about this at all.

Uh-huh. And I have a bridge to sell you.

Shut up, moron. His mother was a citizen, he's a citizen. It's plain and simple logic, and all your spitting and sputtering is not going to change that.

He is hiding his BC, and other records, not because of the birther shit, but because there is something else that he is hiding. What it is I don't know, but it must be something significant. Maybe it's the fact he was born under another name. Maybe it's the fact he traveled under an alias. Maybe it's the fact he got scholarships and grants that he shouldn't have.

Whatever he is hiding, you should just drop it, and wait for him to be voted out in 2012. Or else you'll end up hearing two words that will scare the living shit out of any US citizen voter with a brain...

President Biden.

Or he is made ineligible,

President Boehner.

Do you really want to wake up one day, and hear either of those choices???

I don't.

Ah, "shut up" the usual response from a liberal on this issue. Other all-time favorites are, "you are a racist", "he's president, get over it", "ha ha ha, lol" and other epic moments of intellectual genius.

The fact is that you don't know why he's hiding the records. You state, like some kind of actual authority, that it has to do with something else besides his eligibility, but you're just blowing angry wind - you have no idea whatsoever. nor can you know. Nor can anyone. Which is why states are demanding his long form to get on their ballots - they want to know. It may very well be - and probably is - that he's hiding his records because he is not eligible. Given his background, various citizenships and his father's citizenship, it's the most likely reason.

You can't be president of the united states and simultaneously have a hissy fit about privacy. That all vanishes when you're the most visible person in the world.

Liberals try to make it seem as though this is so unthinkable that it's impossible. Not only is it not impossible, it's likely.

Remember that once everyone thought it was a 'right wing conspiracy' - Hillary's words - when people were accusing Clinton of having an affair. He slandered his lover mercilessly, lied like crazy to the press and everyone, lied before a grand jury - which cost him his law license for life - and when it turned out that she had saved his dried sperm on her blue dress (she's clearly another typical sick liberal) and could clear her name with DNA identification, Clinton humiliated himself and his party - and this country - by having to go on prime time TV and admit to the scumbag affair, of lying to the people he swore to serve, as well as to a grand jury. But typical of liberals, they now regard Clinton, this totally discredited scumbag who had sex IN THE WHITE HOUSE with someone not his wife - repeatedly - while we paid for it not to mention the morality and ethics - as a standard-bearer of the democrat party. And indeed, by that measure, he certainly is.

Obama's secrecy is making it clear that his birth certificate is his "blue dress', only this time it isn't a mere affair - this time it's a constitutional crisis because if he is not eligible,then everything he signed into law is null and void, as are his supreme court appointments, absolutely explicit per the constitution, and the constitution must be obeyed, and it will be.

If he is removed on these grounds, Biden is also nullified per the constitution and you're right, Boehner becomes president. And he probably will. The new state laws demanding a long form birth certificate will be the brick wall through which Obama's BS cannot pass. He's going to have to come up with some kind of answer one way or the other, and fast.

And here's the funny part. A conservative who swears up and down that a President has no right to privacy whatsoever..would probably also swear up and down that the Vice President has the right to conduct secret meetings with oil executives. Or that another President has the right to keep his service records a secret.

:lol:

President Obama is more a natural born citizen the John McCain was when he ran. And if President Obama share the exact same circumstances that John McCain was in..in that he was foreign born..like John McCain..who was born in Panama..he would still be considered an NBC under the very same law that considers John McCain an NBC.

However..under the Constitution..John McCain could not run for President. Republicans ran him anyway. Go fig.

President Obama has the State of Hawaii verifying he was born there, two independent papers verifying he was born there and his mother verifying he was born there. The United States Federal government certified he could run. And he's produced a birth certificate for the nuts.

There's nothing to satisfy this. So basically...President Obama has taken the right course.
 
Bull no matter what Obama produced it would be proclaimed a forgery, etc by the true believers.

At this point, yes, you are right. Had he done so long ago when this issue was first raised, I don't think so.

Immie
 
Shut up, moron. His mother was a citizen, he's a citizen. It's plain and simple logic, and all your spitting and sputtering is not going to change that.

He is hiding his BC, and other records, not because of the birther shit, but because there is something else that he is hiding. What it is I don't know, but it must be something significant. Maybe it's the fact he was born under another name. Maybe it's the fact he traveled under an alias. Maybe it's the fact he got scholarships and grants that he shouldn't have.

Whatever he is hiding, you should just drop it, and wait for him to be voted out in 2012. Or else you'll end up hearing two words that will scare the living shit out of any US citizen voter with a brain...

President Biden.

Or he is made ineligible,

President Boehner.

Do you really want to wake up one day, and hear either of those choices???

I don't.

Ah, "shut up" the usual response from a liberal on this issue. Other all-time favorites are, "you are a racist", "he's president, get over it", "ha ha ha, lol" and other epic moments of intellectual genius.

The fact is that you don't know why he's hiding the records. You state, like some kind of actual authority, that it has to do with something else besides his eligibility, but you're just blowing angry wind - you have no idea whatsoever. nor can you know. Nor can anyone. Which is why states are demanding his long form to get on their ballots - they want to know. It may very well be - and probably is - that he's hiding his records because he is not eligible. Given his background, various citizenships and his father's citizenship, it's the most likely reason.

You can't be president of the united states and simultaneously have a hissy fit about privacy. That all vanishes when you're the most visible person in the world.

Liberals try to make it seem as though this is so unthinkable that it's impossible. Not only is it not impossible, it's likely.

Remember that once everyone thought it was a 'right wing conspiracy' - Hillary's words - when people were accusing Clinton of having an affair. He slandered his lover mercilessly, lied like crazy to the press and everyone, lied before a grand jury - which cost him his law license for life - and when it turned out that she had saved his dried sperm on her blue dress (she's clearly another typical sick liberal) and could clear her name with DNA identification, Clinton humiliated himself and his party - and this country - by having to go on prime time TV and admit to the scumbag affair, of lying to the people he swore to serve, as well as to a grand jury. But typical of liberals, they now regard Clinton, this totally discredited scumbag who had sex IN THE WHITE HOUSE with someone not his wife - repeatedly - while we paid for it not to mention the morality and ethics - as a standard-bearer of the democrat party. And indeed, by that measure, he certainly is.

Obama's secrecy is making it clear that his birth certificate is his "blue dress', only this time it isn't a mere affair - this time it's a constitutional crisis because if he is not eligible,then everything he signed into law is null and void, as are his supreme court appointments, absolutely explicit per the constitution, and the constitution must be obeyed, and it will be.

If he is removed on these grounds, Biden is also nullified per the constitution and you're right, Boehner becomes president. And he probably will. The new state laws demanding a long form birth certificate will be the brick wall through which Obama's BS cannot pass. He's going to have to come up with some kind of answer one way or the other, and fast.

And here's the funny part. A conservative who swears up and down that a President has no right to privacy whatsoever..would probably also swear up and down that the Vice President has the right to conduct secret meetings with oil executives. Or that another President has the right to keep his service records a secret.

:lol:

President Obama is more a natural born citizen the John McCain was when he ran. And if President Obama share the exact same circumstances that John McCain was in..in that he was foreign born..like John McCain..who was born in Panama..he would still be considered an NBC under the very same law that considers John McCain an NBC.

However..under the Constitution..John McCain could not run for President. Republicans ran him anyway. Go fig.

President Obama has the State of Hawaii verifying he was born there, two independent papers verifying he was born there and his mother verifying he was born there. The United States Federal government certified he could run. And he's produced a birth certificate for the nuts.

There's nothing to satisfy this. So basically...President Obama has taken the right course.

All these declarative statements from you: he DID supply the documents, he IS a natural born citizen, birthers WON'T be happy even if he turns something over. The problem is that you don't and can't actually know any of these things. They're theories, and theories they are because they can be proven, and that's good, wonderful news: all Obama has to do is pick up the telephone and call his lawyers to release his various citizenship documents. Of course, to put the crazy conspiracy theorists at their ease, the documents will need chemical and electron microscope analysis, but these are very routine in forensics these days.

And if he's clear, your theories will be proven correct -all of them! Won't that be exciting? You might even get some big offers for your brilliant analytic prowess! That will be a wonderful moment and I'll be the first one to congratulate you, and I'm not being snide or cynical - I really mean it! But you can't celebrate until Obama stops fighting lawsuits to keep his citizenship records hidden, so join the call for them to be disclosed. You can be right, have real substance to your birther mockery - wow, the possibilities are just endless! Just amazing stuff! Really great!

Maybe you'll listen to Chris Matthews - an ultra hardcore, Obama supporting liberal - when he says the document Obama posted online is worthless and Obama needs to release his records. Go to youtube and search "chris matthews" + "birther" and sort by most recent, and you'll easily find the video posted multiple times on the first page of the search results. if you don't believe me, maybe you'll believe a famous liberal (I don;t have enough posts here to post links directly myself or I would).

I'm really super, super excited for you! i can't wait until your theories are proven right! Just as soon as obama releases his records! woo hoo! Can't wait! I'm already really happy for you!
 
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Why would Obama want to end the birther movement?

They play right into his hands
 
producing a long-form, original Birth Certificate.

Reason he doesn't - can't.

Got and is getting kid-gloves treatment from the liberal media on very important issue.

BTW - mandadtory health insurance is UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Birfers wouldn't accept that either. They would simply claim it's a forgery. Carry on. This is always good for a laugh.
 
producing a long-form, original Birth Certificate.

Reason he doesn't - can't.

Got and is getting kid-gloves treatment from the liberal media on very important issue.

BTW - mandadtory health insurance is UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Birfers wouldn't accept that either. They would simply claim it's a forgery. Carry on. This is always good for a laugh.


There goes another one - making absolute statements about what will and won;t be based on facts they can't possibly know. You can tell that they're they're getting nervous when they use the word, "BirFers', because the derogatory, mocking sound eases their anxiety that Obama may be removed, or almost certainly be unable to run in states establishing criteria that he obviously doesn't want to meet, and in so doing possibly destroy the democrat party for 50 years. Unfortunately for them, the stupid-sounding word doesn't change the facts. Obama refuses to disclose the records, and new state laws will demand he do so. It'll be good for a laugh, alright, especially when obama has to face the reality and respond one way or another. And what if he decides not to run for "persona reasons" and everyone understands that he did all the damage he did to the economy without the legal authority to do so? Who but the rigid ideological die-hard socialists will vote for a democrat, then? Yessir, it certainly will be funny, alright. Possibly downright hilarious.
 
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Obama could end the Birther Movement

The ONLY way the birthers might be satisfied is if he goes on national TV, resigns and "confesses" he was born in Kenya, Indonesia, Mars or anywhere else that disqualifies him to hold the office of POTUS.

Anything else he says, does or provides, they'll find something wrong with.
 
producing a long-form, original Birth Certificate.

Reason he doesn't - can't.

Got and is getting kid-gloves treatment from the liberal media on very important issue.

BTW - mandadtory health insurance is UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Birfers wouldn't accept that either. They would simply claim it's a forgery. Carry on. This is always good for a laugh.


There goes another one - making absolute statements about what will and won;t be based on facts they can't possibly know. You can tell that they're they're getting nervous when they use the word, "BirFers', because the derogatory, mocking sound eases their anxiety that Obama may be removed, or almost certainly be unable to run in states establishing criteria that he obviously doesn't want to meet, and in so doing possibly destroy the democrat party for 50 years. Unfortunately for them, the stupid-sounding word doesn't change the facts. Obama refuses to disclose the records, and new state laws will demand he do so. It'll be good for a laugh, alright, especially when obama does has to face the reality and respond one way or another. and if he decides not to run for "persona reasons" and everyone understands that he did all the damage he did to the economy without the legal authority to do so? Who but the rigid ideological die-hard socialists will vote for a democrat, then? yessir, it certainly will be funny, alright. Possibly downright hilarious.

Simply put.

Birthers don't believe the President.
Birthers don't believe the State of Hawaii.
Birthers don't believe the Federal Government.
Birthers don't believe the press.

There's not much farther to go here. In fact..it's the end of the road.
 
Why would Obama want to end the birther movement?

They play right into his hands

Wow, yeah, like the 11 states enacting laws demanding the records Obama doesn't want to give up, or not be able to run for president in those states, all because he has fought lawsuits in court to keep anyone from seeing them in the first place! yeah, what a brilliant strategy! Man, he's good!

LOL!
 
Does Congress have the power to force the president to comply with the Constitutional requirement for the job and produce the BC for scrutiny by federal document examiners? I think so.

Of course they do,when you got a corrupt congress though of course,that wont happen.
 
Obama could end the Birther Movement

The ONLY way the birthers might be satisfied is if he goes on national TV, resigns and "confesses" he was born in Kenya, Indonesia, Mars or anywhere else that disqualifies him to hold the office of POTUS.

Anything else he says, does or provides, they'll find something wrong with.

Obama won't have to. Eleven states - so far - are enacting laws in which the candidate will have to disclose his long form birth certificate and other records, and all it takes to stop obama cold in 2012 is just one state with such a law. Then we'll see, won;t we?

My my, what will the little brainwashed Obots do then? :cuckoo:
 
Birfers wouldn't accept that either. They would simply claim it's a forgery. Carry on. This is always good for a laugh.


There goes another one - making absolute statements about what will and won;t be based on facts they can't possibly know. You can tell that they're they're getting nervous when they use the word, "BirFers', because the derogatory, mocking sound eases their anxiety that Obama may be removed, or almost certainly be unable to run in states establishing criteria that he obviously doesn't want to meet, and in so doing possibly destroy the democrat party for 50 years. Unfortunately for them, the stupid-sounding word doesn't change the facts. Obama refuses to disclose the records, and new state laws will demand he do so. It'll be good for a laugh, alright, especially when obama does has to face the reality and respond one way or another. and if he decides not to run for "persona reasons" and everyone understands that he did all the damage he did to the economy without the legal authority to do so? Who but the rigid ideological die-hard socialists will vote for a democrat, then? yessir, it certainly will be funny, alright. Possibly downright hilarious.

Simply put.

Birthers don't believe the President.
Birthers don't believe the State of Hawaii.
Birthers don't believe the Federal Government.
Birthers don't believe the press.

There's not much farther to go here. In fact..it's the end of the road.

thats because the press is a toll for the government and government institutions are corrupt.you have been so brainwashed by the school system though that you just dont get that.:cuckoo::cuckoo:
 
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