Obama costs us even more!

[Lycurgus]

Well it seems that Obama's day of crowning just got more costly for the taxpayers.

In the new stimulus package there is 250 million set aside for new grass seed for the Washington Mall, because the Obama faithful destroyed it.

Hmmmm ............... So what does that make the new total for this presidential inauguration?

This money should come from his campaign war chest not our pockets!

 

[Zoom-boing]

WTF? Do you have a link for this info?

 

[Article 15]

Well it seems that Obama's day of crowning just got more costly for the taxpayers.

In the new stimulus package there is 250 million set aside for new grass seed for the Washington Mall, because the Obama faithful destroyed it.

Hmmmm ............... So what does that make the new total for this presidential inauguration?

This money should come from his campaign war chest not our pockets!

Hmm ...

That doesn't sound right. Got a link?

 

[del]

Well it seems that Obama's day of crowning just got more costly for the taxpayers.

In the new stimulus package there is 250 million set aside for new grass seed for the Washington Mall, because the Obama faithful destroyed it.

Hmmmm ............... So what does that make the new total for this presidential inauguration?

This money should come from his campaign war chest not our pockets!

bullshit.

 

[DiamondDave]

Park Service Confronts Remaking The Mall|ABC 7 News

Maybe all the Obamabots who went should each bring a bag of seed on their own

 

[Article 15]

Well it seems that Obama's day of crowning just got more costly for the taxpayers.

In the new stimulus package there is 250 million set aside for new grass seed for the Washington Mall, because the Obama faithful destroyed it.

Hmmmm ............... So what does that make the new total for this presidential inauguration?

This money should come from his campaign war chest not our pockets!

bullshit.

Aye.

“If we allow American families to keep more of what they earn, they’re going to save it, invest it, or spend it. All of which are good for the economy. And our plan would allow American families, joint filers, to keep almost $3,200, up to $3,200 of their money. They can help multiply the economy, get the economy moving again if the money’s in their hands, and this is why we have Democrats and Republicans in this country because we do look at these things differently. They believe that all of this spending is going to help, some of it on infrastructure if you can get it out the door quick enough will help. But spending $200 million to fix up the National Mall, $21 million for sod, over $200 million for contraceptives, how is this going to fix an ailing economy? … And right now given the concerns we have over the size of this package and all of the spending in this package, we don’t think it’s going to work. And so if it’s the plan I see today, put me down in the no column.”

On NBC's Meet the Press, Boehner Outlines Republican Ideas to Create Jobs, Help Fix Our Economy | Republican Leader John Boehner

So the stimulus package has 200 million in it to clean up the mall 21 of which is to resod it.

Obama's inauguration?

Not mentioned.

Liar.

 

[Lycurgus]

WTF? Do you have a link for this info?

WTF my radio news does not have a link to it

 

[Lycurgus]

Lair my ass ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, put that many people out there and see what it does to the ground. Further, I eould think that much money could be better used to put people back to work or to help feed them while they are out of work.

Now, if you think grass seed and that mall is more important, so be it.

 

[Lycurgus]

and of course they are not going to mention his crowning!

lol

 

[Article 15]

Lair my ass ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, put that many people out there and see what it does to the ground.

Yes, a couple of million people will jack up the lawn but the big lie was "250 million" and framing it as if it were solely for the lawn.

Further, I eould think that much money could be better used to put people back to work or to help feed them while they are out of work.

It's part of the stimulus package and the type of stuff being proposed. This IS putting people back to work.

Now, if you think grass seed and that mall is more important, so be it.

It's sod, not seed, you can't even get that straight. And spare me the "lawn or feed the people" schtick you and I both know this isn't the last $250 million the gov't has to spend.

Yeah liar.

Yeah, you are definitely quite dishonest.

 

[auditor0007]

Well, it sure as hell wouldn't cost $250 million for grass seed. Based on the going rate, they could resod the entire 3.6 million square feet for a little over $2 million. Hmmm, I wonder who's getting the other $248 million?

 

[indago]

Well, it sure as hell wouldn't cost $250 million for grass seed. Based on the going rate, they could resod the entire 3.6 million square feet for a little over $2 million. Hmmm, I wonder who's getting the other $248 million?

Probably the landscaping contractor, who will probably hire a bunch of illegal aliens to do the work.

 

[DiamondDave]

Well, it sure as hell wouldn't cost $250 million for grass seed. Based on the going rate, they could resod the entire 3.6 million square feet for a little over $2 million. Hmmm, I wonder who's getting the other $248 million?

Red tape and bureaucracy costs a lot... don't think it just so easily gets money to get the job done.. has to go thru all kinds of departments so more people can get their hands in to have job security... 10X the cost to do something the governmental way, minimum... the waste with the bureaucratic red tape is enormous

 

[Jeepers]

Z-zz-zz-z

 

[Lycurgus]

What is this really? I mean besides a good way to barb some Obama fans!

We are being asked to accept another 800 billion in bailout / stimulus money!

Homes are being lost, jobs are being lost, businesses are failing, banks are failing, families cannot buy food and some cannot afford shelter ..............

and they cannot even be responsible enough to see to it that 100% of these funds go directly to help people with the real problems, the real life daily issues. Instead, they are worried about landscaping? After they trot how many 100's of thousands of people out there and spend how much on a big party?

After we already put up how many billion on the first bailout?

What is going to happen when it's time for the 3rd bailout?

And to make it better, this landscaping deal is only part of the wasteful pork built into this lovely package.

Make no mistake, this is not a democrat or republican bitch post, it is a Washington bitch post.

They will continue to do this, they will continue to waste our money until we say no more.

I listened closely to Obama speak about accountability, I have watched him as president also speak about it. I have listened to him speak about going page by page and trimming the pork, the waste.

Well where is he now?

Why is he, Biden and the others on TV and Radio selling this deal with this type of pork in it?

This is nothing more than, more of the same old Washington, only with a crisp new bow on it. Be it from the right or the left!

 

[doeton]

After they trot how many 100's of thousands of people out there and spend how much on a big party?

Jesus:

Why waste your breath moaning at the crowd?
Nothing can be done to stop the shouting
If ev'ry tongue was still the noise would still continue
The rocks and stones themselves would start to sing:

Crowd, with Jesus
Hosanna Heysanna Sanna Sanna Ho
Sanna Hey Sanna Ho Sanna
Hey J C, J C won't you fight for me?
Sanna Ho Sanna Hey Superstar

 

[indago]

Why is he, Biden and the others on TV and Radio selling this deal with this type of pork in it? This is nothing more than, more of the same old Washington, only with a crisp new bow on it. Be it from the right or the left!

Why are you surprised?

 

[Zoom-boing]

WTF? Do you have a link for this info?

WTF my radio news does not have a link to it

 

[Zoom-boing]

Why is he, Biden and the others on TV and Radio selling this deal with this type of pork in it?

Didn't you get the memo? Because he won.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Economic stimulus or just more pork?

Is $200 million to rehabilitate the National Mall a crucial way to stimulate the U.S. economy? How about $276 million to fix the computer systems at the State Department? And what about $650 million to repair dilapidated Forest Service facilities?


As Congress rushes toward what leaders of both parties predict will be a speedy passage of an $825 billion economic stimulus package, critics from GOP lawmakers to government watchdog groups are questioning whether key parts of the bill will spur economic growth or whether they're wasteful pork.

House Republican Conference Chairman Mike Pence of Indiana pointed to a $50 million outlay for the National Endowment for the Arts - an agency that conservatives have long criticized - to help arts groups hit by a drop-off in philanthropy.

"This is stimulus?" Pence asked.

President Obama, responding to the concerns, is making an aggressive sales pitch for the package. In his first presidential radio address Saturday, he said it would accomplish big things: renovate 10,000 public schools, build 3,000 miles of new electric grid, computerize all Americans' health records in five years, weatherize 2.5 million homes, provide Pell Grants to 7 million college students, and protect the health insurance of 8 million Americans who risk losing coverage during the downturn.

Top administration officials also warn that without the plan, the unemployment rate could hit double digits and the economy could sink deeper into recession.

"It is worse, quite frankly, than everyone thought it was, and it is getting worse every day," Vice President Joe Biden said on CBS' "Face the Nation" Sunday.

All sides agree the plan carries a hefty price tag: It will be paid for with borrowed funds and could swell an already mammoth $1.2 trillion deficit forecast for this year to more than $2 trillion.

Obama had hoped to pick up bipartisan support for the plan, but Republicans have grown increasingly critical of the size of the package. GOP leaders also argue that some of the provisions seem more aimed at achieving liberal policy goals rather than reviving the economy.
Contraceptives

House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, criticized a part of the bill's $87 billion package to help states with Medicaid costs that would allow states to expand their family planning services. Leaving a White House meeting with Obama on Friday, Boehner said, "How can you spend hundreds of millions of dollars on contraceptives? How does that stimulate the economy?"

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, appearing on ABC's "This Week" on Sunday, defended the spending. "The family-planning services reduce cost," she said. "The states are in terrible fiscal budget crisis now, and part of it, what we do for children's health, education, and some of those elements, are to help the states meet their financial needs."

When Obama announced this month that there would be no earmarks in the bill, it sharply curtailed the ability of lawmakers to steer money for pet projects in their districts. But critics say the move won't remove politics from the process - it simply shifts the power to bureaucrats at state and federal agencies, who will distribute billions for roads, schools and other projects.

"In the past, in the appropriations bills we could see a list of the projects. They were right there printed in the bill," said David Williams, vice president for policy at Citizens Against Government Waste, a watchdog group. "Now it's going to be a lot more difficult to see where the money is spent. You will have to contact each agency and each program manager to find out where the money is going."
Recovery Web site

Obama and Democratic leaders are hoping to allay those concerns by creating a Web site - Recovery.Gov - where the public can track how the money is being spent.

Some of the biggest winners in the package are federal agencies, which would see a huge infusion of money. The Social Security Administration would get $400 million to replace its 30-year old computer system. The Agricultural Research Service would receive $209 million for deferred maintenance at its facilities. The General Services Administration would get $600 million to replace its older fleet of vehicles with new alternative-fuel cars and trucks.

Democrats say their goal is to create jobs by speeding up work on federal and state projects that would otherwise have waited years for funding.

"The whole idea here is there are lots of projects that have been in the pipeline, on the planning boards, and we're saying, let's get it now," Rep. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md., said last week.

The Democratic plan took a hit when the Congressional Budget Office estimated that only 7 percent of infrastructure money would make its way into the economy by the end of the year, and only 38 percent would be spent by the end of the 2010 fiscal year. Obama's new White House budget director, Peter Orszag, disputed the findings, saying 75 percent of the money would be spent by fiscal 2010.
Saving millions of jobs

Other parts of the package, including the tax cuts and the direct aid to states, would be injected more quickly into the economy. The bill would offer a payroll tax cut of $500 to individuals who earn less than $75,000 a year, and a $1,000 credit to married couples who earn less than $150,000 a year.

Democrats defended their proposal by citing an analysis by economist Mark Zandi of Moody's, who concluded that the plan would create or save 4 million jobs and keep the unemployment rate 2 percentage points lower than it would be without the package.

The House, with its sizable Democratic majority, is expected to easily pass the bill on Wednesday. In the Senate, Democrats are confident they can pick up the one or two Republican votes needed to reach a 60-vote majority.

But Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., the GOP presidential nominee last year who has pledged to work with Obama, said Sunday he won't be among the Republicans supporting the package.

"As it stands now, I would not" vote for the bill, McCain told Fox News on Sunday, explaining that he'd like to see more tax cuts and GOP input into the bill.

Useful or wasteful?

Supporters say key provisions of the $825 billion economic stimulus bill will help create jobs and revive the U.S. economy, but critics see some of the spending as wasteful. Here's a sampling of how some of the money would be used:

$44 million for repairs at the Agriculture Department headquarters in Washington.

$200 million to rehabilitate the National Mall.

$360 million for new child care centers at military bases.

$1.8 billion to repair National Park Service facilities.

$276 million to update technology at the State Department.

$500 million for the Transportation Security Administration to install bomb detectors at airports.

$600 million for General Services Administration to replace older vehicles with alternative fuel vehicles.

$2.5 billion to upgrade low-income housing.

$400 million for NASA scientists to conduct climate change research.

$426 million to construct facilities at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

$800 million to clean up Superfund sites.

$150 million for the Coast Guard to repair or remove bridges deemed a hazard to navigation.

$6.7 billion to renovate and improve energy efficiency at federal buildings.

$400 million to replace the Social Security Administration's 30-year-old National Computer Center.