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Europeans created the slave market? -----Joe--be smart---DELETE your idiot remark
Absolutely

Slavery existed, within societies. There was not a market to raid communities for more slaves until the Europeans created it


Come the **** on, this is basic, Grammar-School level history.

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Absolutely

Slavery existed, within societies. There was not a market to raid communities for more slaves until the Europeans created it


Come the **** on, this is basic, Grammar-School level history.

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Entirely wrong JOE-----slavery raids were were THE THING--in Africa for thousands of years
and the slave trade extended THRUOUT all of Africa into Asia and on to Europe-----
long long before Columbus sailed the Ocean blue.
 
Absolutely

Slavery existed, within societies. ...

Slavery was forbidden in England - but existing in the English colonies. And within Europe slavery died out since a long time - not because it existed a freedom fight or freedom war against slavery. Slavery is just simple not compatible with the Christian religion (religion = rebound in god). Firstly because freedom is an inherent characteristic of Christianity (‘Only God is my judge’) but secondly also because god is "the judge" at all - so everyone had individual rights and got more and more rights. We are the children of god - we all have the right to have rights.

By the way: I fear you US-Americans - and also we Europeans - forgot one of your most successful fights against slavery. Everyhwere in the world had been kidnapped Europeans including Americans and had been brought to Africa in slavery. It costed a lot of money to buy back this EuroAmerican slaves. You stopped this by attacking the slave market in Tripolis - the centre of this inhuman pirates - with a very new modern weapon: iron steam ships with canons. By the way: Thank you, Marines!

 
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He is half right...as the EUROs' did create the Transatlantic Slave Trade route.

As for slavery...it has been around since the beginning of time.
the only reason that a "TRANATLANTIC" slave trade did not exist for thousands of
years is that there was no TRANSATLANTIC trade until----Europeans ventured out
into the sea and created one. The concept of blaming Europeans for slave trade is
beyond idiotic
 
the only reason that a "TRANATLANTIC" slave trade did not exist for thousands of
years is that there was no TRANSATLANTIC trade until----Europeans ventured out
into the sea and created one. The concept of blaming Europeans for slave trade is
beyond idiotic

I have no response to that !
 
Slavery was forbidden in England - but existing in the English colonies. And within Europe slavery died out since a long time - not because it existed a freedom fight or freedom war against slavery. Slavery is just simple not compatible with the Christian religion (religion = rebound in god). Firstly because freedom is an inherent characteristic of Christianity (‘Only God is my judge’) but secondly also because god is "the judge" at all - so everyone had individual rights and got more and more rights. We are the children of god - we all have the right to have rights.

Wrong again. Slavery wasn't outlawed in the United Kingdom Proper until 1804, and the rest of the British Empire until 1830.

Nothing in Christianity is counter to Slavery. In fact, quite the opposite, the bible is full of verses supporting slavery and when the inbreds of the South rationalized continuing slavery after the rest of the world had abandoned it, their go to rationalization was bible verses.

By the way: I fear you US-Americans - and also we Europeans - forgot one of your most successful fights against slavery. Everyhwere in the world had been kidnapped Europeans including Americans and had been brought to Africa in slavery. It costed a lot of money to buy back this EuroAmerican slaves. You stopped this by attacking the slave market in Tripolis - the centre of this inhuman pirates - with a very new modern weapon: iron steam ships with canons. By the way: Thank you, Marines!

You are a little confused, as usual. Armored Steamships didn't exist until the middle of the 19th century. US wars against the Barbary Coast occurred in 1801-05 and again in 1815-16. The ONLY reason why they got away with attacking Western ships and taking slaves was because the Europeans were too involved in the Napoleonic Wars, trying to preserve various inbred dynasties of royals. The only reason why the US had an interest was because we were illegally trading with Napoleon despite the British blockade of the continent.

Once Napoleon was done, the Europeans started snatching up land in North Africa at the expense of the Ottomans.
 
the only reason that a "TRANATLANTIC" slave trade did not exist for thousands of
years is that there was no TRANSATLANTIC trade until----Europeans ventured out
into the sea and created one. The concept of blaming Europeans for slave trade is
beyond idiotic

But that's the point. How did it develop?

The European's first go-to was to enslave Native Americans. But because they brought over diseases and worked the poor bastards to death, that population dropped dramatically. (Perhaps 80% of Native Americans died off by 1600). That's when they got the brilliant idea, "Hey, let's go to Africa and start buying people to be slaves!"

Slavery had largely disappeared in Europe by 1600, and even serfdom was on the way out. The Europeans had to reintroduce the practice on an industrial scale to exploit the new world they found.

And this is what makes what they did so much worse. The influx of goods changed the economy of Africa, where they became more dependent on trading manufactured goods to people than developing their own industries. When the British finally had a pang of conscience and ended the slave trade in 1807, their economies collapsed and left them ripe for colonization.

If you want to truly **** something up, add white people. We excel at that.

Entirely wrong JOE-----slavery raids were were THE THING--in Africa for thousands of years
and the slave trade extended THRUOUT all of Africa into Asia and on to Europe-----
long long before Columbus sailed the Ocean blue.

The problem was VOLUME. Slavery in sub-Sahara Africa was a thing, but it was more akin to what slavery had been for decades. Slaves were considered part of the household, and their treatment wasn't really that bad. It wasn't until the Europeans came along, and they were enslaving thousands, packing them in like sardines and having half of them die on the way over, that it became a true crime against humanity.

The plantation owners created the market.

Now you are getting it. Sit down and shut up, you might learn something.
 
But that's the point. How did it develop?

The European's first go-to was to enslave Native Americans. But because they brought over diseases and worked the poor bastards to death, that population dropped dramatically. (Perhaps 80% of Native Americans died off by 1600). That's when they got the brilliant idea, "Hey, let's go to Africa and start buying people to be slaves!"

Slavery had largely disappeared in Europe by 1600, and even serfdom was on the way out. The Europeans had to reintroduce the practice on an industrial scale to exploit the new world they found.

And this is what makes what they did so much worse. The influx of goods changed the economy of Africa, where they became more dependent on trading manufactured goods to people than developing their own industries. When the British finally had a pang of conscience and ended the slave trade in 1807, their economies collapsed and left them ripe for colonization.

If you want to truly **** something up, add white people. We excel at that.



The problem was VOLUME. Slavery in sub-Sahara Africa was a thing, but it was more akin to what slavery had been for decades. Slaves were considered part of the household, and their treatment wasn't really that bad. It wasn't until the Europeans came along, and they were enslaving thousands, packing them in like sardines and having half of them die on the way over, that it became a true crime against humanity.



Now you are getting it. Sit down and shut up, you might learn something.
Joe---your echolalia is probably a form of Frontal Release. Lie down and suck your thumb----
you'll feel better. As to your masturbatory sociology-----I have read it all, you have nothing
to tell me
 
But that's the point. How did it develop?

The European's first go-to was to enslave Native Americans. But because they brought over diseases and worked the poor bastards to death, that population dropped dramatically. (Perhaps 80% of Native Americans died off by 1600). That's when they got the brilliant idea, "Hey, let's go to Africa and start buying people to be slaves!"

Slavery had largely disappeared in Europe by 1600, and even serfdom was on the way out. The Europeans had to reintroduce the practice on an industrial scale to exploit the new world they found.

And this is what makes what they did so much worse. The influx of goods changed the economy of Africa, where they became more dependent on trading manufactured goods to people than developing their own industries. When the British finally had a pang of conscience and ended the slave trade in 1807, their economies collapsed and left them ripe for colonization.

If you want to truly **** something up, add white people. We excel at that.

At what point are African slave traders accountable for their actions?
The problem was VOLUME. Slavery in sub-Sahara Africa was a thing, but it was more akin to what slavery had been for decades. Slaves were considered part of the household, and their treatment wasn't really that bad. It wasn't until the Europeans came along, and they were enslaving thousands, packing them in like sardines and having half of them die on the way over, that it became a true crime against humanity.



Now you are getting it. Sit down and shut up, you might learn something.

But you said Eurpeans created the market. Which is it?
 
Wrong again. Slavery wasn't outlawed in the United Kingdom Proper until 1804, and the rest of the British Empire until 1830.

Nothing in Christianity is counter to Slavery. In fact, quite the opposite, the bible is full of verses supporting slavery and when the inbreds of the South rationalized continuing slavery after the rest of the world had abandoned it, their go to rationalization was bible verses.



You are a little confused, as usual. Armored Steamships didn't exist until the middle of the 19th century. US wars against the Barbary Coast occurred in 1801-05 and again in 1815-16.

You are right. But this makes your victory only more impressing


The ONLY reason why they got away with attacking Western ships and taking slaves was because the Europeans were too involved in the Napoleonic Wars, trying to preserve various inbred dynasties of royals. The only reason why the US had an interest was because we were illegally trading with Napoleon despite the British blockade of the continent.

Once Napoleon was done, the Europeans started snatching up land in North Africa at the expense of the Ottomans.

Sorry - but now you are wrong. In the second ¿"Barbary"? war - Europe supported the USA. And as well France (new) and Britain (new) and the Ottoman empire (again) overtook the responsibility in this region.


By the way: Germans never thought about to found colonial empires. An exception which confirms this rule: the Prussians under British influence. And Germans usually never think about wars when they are over. The confirming exception in this context are extremist idiots - such as Nazis and Soviets.

I tried here only to say that the problem "Africa and slavery" has many faces - some are nearly forgotten. And I think the Marines have to be supported after the stupid president Donald Trump attempted to misuse the Marines for domestic political purposes in the United States. The Marines are soldiers who defend the USA and not foreign enemies who attack the USA. Btw: We ordinary Germans never deny our enemies their honour. If necessary, we kill our enemies – to our regret and theirs. That's all.
 
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You are right. But this makes your victory only more impressing

Sorry - but now you are wrong. In the second ¿"Barbary"? war - Europe supported the USA. And as well France (new) and Britain (new) and the Osman empire (again) overtook the responsibility in this region.
That isn't a good thing.

Imperial encroachment in Africa and the rest of the world has done a lot of damage. Not only to the poor schlubs who got colonized, but the Europeans who became dependent on exploiting colonies for the economy.
 
That isn't a good thing.

This wasn't a good thing about 200 years ago? Why?

Imperial encroachment in Africa and the rest of the world has done a lot of damage.

But had also positive effects.

Not only to the poor schlubs who got colonized, but the Europeans who became dependent on exploiting colonies for the economy.

I have not any idea whether you think now or whether you only say something because it sounds "nice". Anyway Germans or German Jews and not Jews had nothing to do with it - except that the Vandals lived once in this region before some of their descendents came back to Europe and founded Vandalusia in Spain.

 
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Picking up random instances of people verbally saying bad stuff. What are you exactly trying to do ?? cover up the 50,000 dead Palestinians. Have you made a single thread about the innocent Palestinian children killed???

every group in America, especially Catholics face hatred. Think of all of the jokes made about the Catholic Church even entire movies in Hollywood dedicated to showing Catholics in a horrible light. You are so far off on this issue every day.
Bogus number Hamas and Iran are responsible for all deaths
 
JoeB131 said:
Nothing excuses what Hitler did, but the Jews were hardly innocent bystanders ..
All we needed from you about your generalization of Jews and rationalizing Nazism.
 
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