Number 1 reason why Obama will win.

[Dick Tuck]

The Libertarian party has gotten plenty of state legislators elected. But they still aren't allowed to be part of the media debates and coverage. It goes against the federal government party. So they must build their coalition without the support of the media.

Why isn't Gary Johnson allowed at the debates? These debates are to bring the ideas to the public eye. That's the whole point. A monopoly on who can participate in the media as candidates is debilitating. And the federal government party knows this. It keeps these other parties and their ideas on the fringe. So they can be ridiculed as "extremist".

Because Gary Johnson has not been seen as a viable candidate. Who wants to see a bunch of fringe candidates, who don't stand a snowballs chance, muddy up the debates. There's tens of thousands of venues for fringe candidates to build a following, but they've failed because their message doesn't resonate with the American people. Ross Perot did get into the debates. He had a viable chance of winning at the time.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Number 1 reason is the media.

Yeah.

How dare they report every lie and every flip flop and every threat RobMe and Robin make.

I'm sick of hearing about how mean that bad ole media is to the pubpots. If romney loses, it will be because of his own incompetence and his own mouth.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Get your free Obama phones!! Remember to vote for Obama!!

Free Obama Cell Phones - YouTube

How many times do you fools have to be told that Obama has/had nothing at all to do with this program. Its been in existence long before we had cell phones and we've all been paying for it.

Are Taxpayers Paying for Free Cell Phones? - Forbes

Please get some facts and stop spreading this LIE about Obama.

Thank you.

 

[Harry Dresden]

The Libertarian party has gotten plenty of state legislators elected. But they still aren't allowed to be part of the media debates and coverage. It goes against the federal government party. So they must build their coalition without the support of the media.

Why isn't Gary Johnson allowed at the debates? These debates are to bring the ideas to the public eye. That's the whole point. A monopoly on who can participate in the media as candidates is debilitating. And the federal government party knows this. It keeps these other parties and their ideas on the fringe. So they can be ridiculed as "extremist".

Because Gary Johnson has not been seen as a viable candidate. Who wants to see a bunch of fringe candidates, who don't stand a snowballs chance, muddy up the debates. There's tens of thousands of venues for fringe candidates to build a following, but they've failed because their message doesn't resonate with the American people. Ross Perot did get into the debates. He had a viable chance of winning at the time.

Because Gary Johnson has not been seen as a viable candidate.
and the reason for that is because so many of you ON BOTH SIDES refuse to leave your precious fucking party.....i have seen plenty of people in this forum say that Johnson has some great views,but he cant win so im not going to WASTE MY VOTE....with a stupid attitude like that its no wonder guys like him cant get in....

 

[TakeAStepBack]

The Libertarian party has gotten plenty of state legislators elected. But they still aren't allowed to be part of the media debates and coverage. It goes against the federal government party. So they must build their coalition without the support of the media.

Why isn't Gary Johnson allowed at the debates? These debates are to bring the ideas to the public eye. That's the whole point. A monopoly on who can participate in the media as candidates is debilitating. And the federal government party knows this. It keeps these other parties and their ideas on the fringe. So they can be ridiculed as "extremist".

Because Gary Johnson has not been seen as a viable candidate. Who wants to see a bunch of fringe candidates, who don't stand a snowballs chance, muddy up the debates. There's tens of thousands of venues for fringe candidates to build a following, but they've failed because their message doesn't resonate with the American people. Ross Perot did get into the debates. He had a viable chance of winning at the time.

Because Gary Johnson has not been seen as a viable candidate.
and the reason for that is because so many of you ON BOTH SIDES refuse to leave your precious fucking party.....i have seen plenty of people in this forum say that Johnson has some great views,but he cant win so im not going to WASTE MY VOTE....with a stupid attitude like that its no wonder guys like him cant get in....

Not only that. What Dick is really saying is that his masters didn't deem Gary worthy of participation. He's not viable to their agenda. So Dick, tucks it between his legs and votes for one of the two federal government party candidates. Because the establishment and the mediadeem these two "viable".

Mitt Romney has got to be the most un-viable candidate in years. Yet there he is, all over the fucking media, newspapers, etc...the reason? Because he will do what he is told. He is not a threat to established power and THAT is all that really matters anymore.

Obama will also do as he is told. All the divide and conquer schemes launched at the plebs aside, he's running a Bush agenda under the radar, which apparently is now popular with LOLberals.

Perplexing.

 

[Jarhead]

Romney.

How sad.

You disagree with the ideology of Romney and that is the NUMBER ONE reason Obama will win in your eyes.

Sadly....even in the eyes of a true liberal such as yourself....you do not see his policies and actions of the last 3 years as a reason he will win.

I mean...how pathetic is that?

What ideology?



He's changing his ideology every minute now.

the fact that you say that means to me that you are by no way qualified to determine if Romney is a good candidate or not.

You can vote against him...that is your right....but you will be doing it blind.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Now watch this drive! - YouTube

You guys are no ground to make these sort of critiques..

President Bush had the spine and the common sense to recognize a terrorist attack, not look for excuses or someone else to blame for what went wrong. Obama wanted to spike the football, and boasted about American Troops coming home behind his OWN Mission Accomplished style message. His administration dropped the ball on national security and intelligence, of all times, on the anniversary of 9-11. Yet he still delivers a speech that cowards behind a VIDEO as the excuse.

This president can't face or (more importantly) LEARN from failure. You can't more FORWARD if you are constantly looking back for someone to blame when it all goes wrong. We need Presidential leadership back in this country, not a speech full of excuses.

What spine?

Or course he "recognized" a terrorist attack..it was the terrorist his father was sponsoring against the Soviets. Then his party blocked efforts to get rid of that terrorist. Then he ignored every warning and went after the Russians and Chinese..allowing the worst and most deadly terrorist attack in American history. Then..he used that attack to facilitate the NeoCon, PNAC, pet project of conquering oil rich Iraq.

That's not the sort of leadership this country needed..or needs. Ever.

You make the "claim" that George W. Bush allowed the 9-11 attacks lol. Really?

You have President Obama who spikes the football on the killing of Bin Laden through numerous re-election speeches, makes it a boastful Obama "slogan" against Republicans, angers Al Queda

Obama removes the troops under a Mission Accomplished speech to the troops and the nation. makes the statement Al Queada is now scattered and unorganized.

lowers our military guard overseas on the anniversary of 9-11, a diplomat along with some other Americans are killed.

Takes the initiative to go still go to a funraiser in Las Vegas over concerns of the exploding situation overseas.

Receives information early on through intelligence that Al Queda is involved, with an organized use of rocket propelled grenades and morters

Sends a spokeswoman out to lie to the American people in a cover up that it was simply a "protest", and after it was confirmed an attack STILL choses to apologize before the UN about a video.

Yet through all this, still has yet to harshly condemn the killings of American civilians murdered at a consolate on United States soil. No .... an apology over the video is the answer. This is just a "speed bump" to use Obama's words. That's your idea of the kind of leader this nation needs? A soft, apologetic, don't confront, don't condemn or disturb the waves, it's always someone else's fault President? You couldn't have a more incompetitent person, who finds gloating on talk shows more important than his official duties in the White House.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Romney hasn't exactly been a stellar candidate.

Obama hasn't exactly been a stellar president either...........

Which shows all the more how pathetic Romney has been during this campaign.

Not any more pathetic then looking back with the same bag of excuses "I inherited this mess, that's why the economy hasn't moved", "The majority of this debt was Bush's spending on two wars" - that's a lie:

Solyndra (solar panel manufacturer)
Self-interested parties: Democrat contributors George Kaiser, Steven Spinner & David Prend

Chu refuses to apologize - November 17, 2011
"UPTON: So no apology? CHU: Well, it’s extremely unfortunate what has happened with Solyndra. If you look back and look at the time, the decisions being made, was there incompetence, was there any influence of a political nature? And I would have to say no."

Energy Dept. kept layoffs secret - November 15, 2011
"The Obama administration, which gave the solar company Solyndra a half-billion-dollar loan to help create jobs, asked the company to delay announcing it would lay off workers until after the hotly contested November 2010 midterm elections that imperiled Democratic control of Congress, newly released e-mails show."

Emails show WH discussions with donor - November 9, 2011
"Newly obtained emails released by House investigators suggest that George Kaiser, a billionaire Obama donor and chief investor in bankrupt solar panel manufacturer Solyndra, discussed the company with White House officials, directly contradicting earlier accounts."

WH rejects subpoena request for documents - November 4, 2011
"President Obama's attorney sent a letter to Congressional investigators on Friday, saying the White House would not cooperate with a subpoena requesting documents related to its doling out a $535 million loan guarantee to now bankrupt solar panel manufacturer Solyndra."

Executive bonuses before bankruptcy - November 4, 2011
"Solyndra executives were awarded quarterly bonuses worth up to $60,000 apiece earlier this year as the California solar-panel company headed for bankruptcy, court documents show."

DOE almost gave them another $469 million - October 5, 2011
"Newly released e-mails show the Obama administration’s Energy Department was poised to give Solyndra a second taxpayer loan of $469 million last year, even as the company’s financial situation grew increasingly dire."

Violated loan 2010, got more money 2011 - September 28, 2011
"The U.S. Department of Energy learned in December that Solyndra was violating its federal loan deal, but the agency changed the loan terms to allow the solar company to continue receiving taxpayer funds, federal officials confirmed Wednesday." [Chu accepts responsibility for loan modification.]

Solyndra simply the beginning


Beacon Power Corporation (energy storage company)
Self-interested parties: Democrat contributors Bill Capp, Matthew Polimeno & James Spiezio

Another Obama "green energy" bankruptcy - November 1, 2011
"Just two days after the Administration announced its review of Energy Department loans, another "green energy" company dropped dead. This one is called Beacon Power Corporation, an energy storage company based out of Massachusetts."


BrightSource Energy (solar power provider)
Self-interested parties: Commerce Secretary John Bryson, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

RFK Jr. scores $1.4 billion bailout - November 16, 2011
"President John F. Kennedy’s nephew, Robert Kennedy, Jr., netted a $1.4 billion bailout for his company, BrightSource, through a loan guarantee issued by a former employee-turned Department of Energy official."

Worse than Solyndra? - September 26, 2011
"President Obama's nominee for Commerce secretary served as chairman of the board of a solar energy company that recently received a $1.37 billion federal loan guarantee – the largest the Department of Energy has ever given for a solar power project."


First Solar (solar panel manufacturer)
Self-interested parties: Democrat contributor Michael Ahearn, GE, NextEra

Another Obama green CEO bites the dust - October 26, 2011
"First Solar got the financial equivalent of four (4) Solyndra-type deals in September. First Solar received $2 billion worth of loan guarantees on projects in California in the waning days of the controversial Department of Energy’s loan program. The company then sold the projects to other, better-connected companies within hours of getting the guarantees. And when I say better connected, I’m not talking transmission lines. Which other companies you ask? GE and NextEra Energy."

More last-minute DOE loans favor Dem donors - September 29, 2011
"First Solar got $2.1 billion in loan guarantees, despite it looking like a very bad investment. ... Who are the investors? One is Michael Ahearn, who pulled out a $69 million stake in the company last month, obviously not as interested in betting on First Solar as the Obama administration. However, he did the invest $123,000 in Democratic Party over the last three cycles."


Fisker Automotive (hybrid cars)
Self-interested parties: Al Gore, Government-owned GM

Karma mileage no better than SUV - October 20, 2011
"In the case of the Fisker Karma, we get a true MPGe of 19. This makes it worse than even the city rating of a Ford Explorer SUV. Congrats to the Fisker Karma, which now joins corn ethanol in the ranks of heavily subsidized supposedly green technologies that are actually worse for the environment than current solutions."

Gets U.S. loan, builds cars in Finland - October 20, 2011
"...an electric car company that received a $529 million federal government loan guarantee is assembling its first line of cars in Finland, saying it could not find a facility in the United States capable of doing the work. Fisker is more than a year behind rolling out its $97,000 luxury vehicle bankrolled in part with DOE money. While more are promised soon, just 40 of its Karma cars... have been manufactured and only two delivered to customers' driveways, including one to movie star Leonardo DiCaprio."


Nevada Geothermal Power (owned by U.S. Geothermal Inc.)
Self-interested parties: Former Harry Reid aides Kai Anderson & Paul Thomsen

Green graft continues - November 15, 2011
"If you thought the green company graft ended when the Department of Energy’s Cash by Suckers program expired at the end of September, you are mistaken. ...despite the expiration of one program, the US government is still giving money to so-called “green” companies under another Obama program. But rather than giving money as loan guarantees as the DOE was doing, this money is an outright gift to private companies with no strings attached..."

Director paid six figures for Obama loans - October 31, 2011
"A financially-troubled Canadian alternative energy company with ties to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid paid a director the lion's share of $758,828 (CAD) in reported consulting fees, according to an analysis of the filings made by the company. The fee was a part of a consulting agreement in order to successfully arrange a loan guarantee by the Department of Energy."

Two more green energy loans in trouble - October 31, 2011
"Executives, board members and investors involved with all three companies are closely linked to Obama, Reid and other prominent Democrats. Kai Anderson, a lobbyist for Nevada Geothermal’s partner corporation, Ormat Technology, is a former Senate aide to Harry Reid. Ormat’s CEO Paul Thomsen is another former Reid aide."


NextEra Energy
Self-interested parties: Obama jobs council member Lewis Hay

Jobs panel member lands DOE loan - November 1, 2011
"But the company also enjoys a connection to the Obama administration -- company Chairman and CEO Lewis Hay sits on the president's Council on Jobs and Competitiveness, which last month issued a report calling, among other things, for a new federal financing program to attract private investment for clean energy projects via loan guarantees and other tools."

Another Obama green CEO bites the dust - October 26, 2011
"First Solar got the financial equivalent of four (4) Solyndra-type deals in September. First Solar received $2 billion worth of loan guarantees on projects in California in the waning days of the controversial Department of Energy’s loan program. The company then sold the projects to other, better-connected companies within hours of getting the guarantees. And when I say better connected, I’m not talking transmission lines. Which other companies you ask? GE and NextEra Energy."


SunPower (solar power technology)
Self-interested parties: Sen. Harry Reid, Rep. George Miller, Democrat lobbyist Patrick Murphy

DOE altering loan-related press releases - October 19, 2011
"Someone affiliated with the Department of Energy has been going back to make changes to press releases posted on the Internet weeks and months ago, CNBC has found."

Loan recipient financially troubled - October 12, 2011
"...troubling financial revelations have emerged about SunPower, which sponsored a solar project that received a $1.2 billion loan, more than twice the money approved for Solyndra, which filed for bankruptcy last month after receiving a $528 million loan. ...SunPower posted $150 million in losses during the first half of this year and its debt is nearly 80 percent of its market value. The company is also facing class action lawsuits for misstating its earnings."

Twice as bad as Solyndra - October 11, 2011
"How did a failing California solar company, buffeted by short sellers and shareholder lawsuits, receive a $1.2 billion federal loan guarantee... Two men with insight into the process are SunPower rooter Rep. George R. Miller III, (D.-Calif.), the senior Democrat on the House Education and Workforce Committee and the co-chairman of the Democratic Steering and Policy Committee, and his SunPower lobbyist son, George Miller IV."

More last-minute DOE loans favor Dem donors - September 29, 2011
"SunPower has paid lobbyist Patrick Murphy, a close confidant of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, at least $290,000 in lobbying fees since 2009. SunPower’s political action committee gave $15,650 to Democratic congressional candidates in 2010 and only $500 to a single Republican candidate. Reid received the largest slice of that pie, a $4,000 campaign contribution."
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[Sallow]

Romney.

Yeah, in a nutshell, I have to largely agree. There is not doubt that Obama is very vulnerable, but the Republicans just can't seem to come up with anyone better.

How sad is that when their entire primary process was all about "who can beat Obama?" They held their collective noses and nominated a guy even they really don't like because they thought he was their best shot.

Maybe it's time to win voters by standing FOR something instead of standing AGAINST everything???????

thats what happens when your scraping the bottom of that barrel....you get guys like Bush,Obama and Romney....

Obama isn't "scraping the bottom of the barrel". He's actually cream of the crop. Started from a "modest" place and rose to the top. Like Clinton.

Bush and Romney are basically the opposite. Started from the top..

 

[nodoginnafight]

I can't help think it's a little too self-serving when I hear Romney strategists talk about what a bad politician he is.
It's like they are saying, "I developed a brilliant campaign strategy, but Romney just can't pull it off." It reeks of face-saving.
The truth is that a big drag on the Romney campaign is that they cannot decide if they are going to be a "stick-to-the-message" campaign or a "pounce-on-opportunities-as-they-arise" campaign. They've even flip-flopped around toying with one slogan after another, put their feet in their mouths trying to politicize non-political current events, and let all that noise detract from their central advantage - the economy and the national debt.

THOSE TWO things resonate with voters and provide the Romney opportunity. All these other sidetracks they've spent way too much energy exploring, are dry wells.