Nuclear rights of Iranian nation.

[eagle1462010]

Why in the world would the OP think that a savage Islamist Terrorist Regime has the “right” to nuclear weapons?

Because he rides a camel to work.

 

[Zavulon]

They have no rights to nukes, nor will they ever have them.

Why so? If NPT is gone (and, it seems Trump had killed it) then all countries have rights to nukes.

 

[Zavulon]

I don't agree with you on that one.

Iran is far to unstable in regards to their future religious and political aspirations. The intel and state-security in Iran is worse then a Swiss cheese. Russia and China are since 2025 heavily engaged to rectify this matter - but it will take time, especially in regards to Iran's cooperation and "ability" to assure these changes.

Unlike Media gossip constantly propagates - China doesn't rely at all onto Iranian oil or gas. If at all it is their Silk-Road project that faces a possible disruption. Iran might very well become another Iraq, if US ground forces start to become "massively" involved. And Russia/China will use that chaos to inflict massive financial losses, and military losses onto the USA.

The will pay off far better for China then to hand over nukes to a "questionable" country in political disarray.

That does not exclude the high possibility that Iran is now "extremely" motivated to fulfill their own nuke aspirations.

It's all well above our salary rate, but it seems to me, the best situation for Russia and China is Iran conventionally defeating the Epstain Coalition is short, but intense combat. Next good is gambling with nuclear pro-Eurasian Iran (nobody knows how it can turn out). But the worst is pro-American Iran, disrupted both Russian "corridor North-South" and Chinese "One way" transport lines.

 

[Godboy]

Actually, we are already at war. And it will just another step on the ladder of escalation.
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So what? Yes, China sold their nukes to Iran, as, say, United States sold their nukes to Israel and Britain. If Iran nuke one of foreign American military bases, America will face the choice - to alleviate, to nuke Iran or to nuke China and Russia.

China gives a nuke to Iran, Iran uses that nuke on the US, and you think we wouldnt respond? We would have 4 Trident subs parked off the coast of China and we would pour a hundred nukes into their nation before their own counterstrike even warmed up to launch. This is why China is never going to hand Iran a nuke.

 

[Lisa558]

Why so? If NPT is gone (and, it seems Trump had killed it) then all countries have rights to nukes.

Countries run by subhuman Islamic terrorists who threaten to kill 7 million Jews if they develop the capability to do so do not have the “right” to nukes.

Did Germany have the “right” for gas chambers, built for the specific purpose of wiping out Europe’s 9 million Jews?

 

[Zavulon]

China gives a nuke to Iran, Iran uses that nuke on the US, and you think we wouldnt respond? We would have 4 Trident subs parked off the coast of China and we would pour a hundred nukes into their nation before their own counterstrike even warmed up to launch. This is why China is never going to hand Iran a nuke.

And then, when you have wasted half of your SLBMs on China - Russia will attack your military targets (first of all nuclear bases and silo's) and China will nuke your cities. As result - in one year 90% of US population is killed or left the country.

Or, there is another option. China (or Russia) give Iran nukes. Iran test those nukes and declare itself a local nuclear power. You f#ck off, and finish your illegal and unprovoked aggression against Iran, accepting Iranian peace terms, because nuclear states don't attack each other directly.

 

[Zavulon]

Countries run by subhuman Islamic terrorists who threaten to kill 7 million Jews if they develop the capability to do so do not have the “right” to nukes.

C'mon. Iranians are not subhumans. Their main motivation is self-preservation. They are more interested in protecting Iranians than killing Jews. Therefore, if the Jews follow decisions of UN SC and return into its 1948 borders, highly likely, Russia will defend them.
Both Russia and America have been developing "doomsday weapons" and threatened to kill billions of personally innocent people. And nobody cares.

Did Germany have the “right” for gas chambers, built for the specific purpose of wiping out Europe’s 9 million Jews?

The EU, fourth Reich, has nukes with specific purpose to wipe out more than twenty million Russians. Do you believe that lives of Jews are more valuable than lives of Russians?
And Iran is much more reliable and responsible member of international community than France, Britain or the USA.

 

[Lisa558]

And then, when you have wasted half of your SLBMs on China - Russia will attack your military targets (first of all nuclear bases and silo's) and China will nuke your cities. As result - in one year 90% of US population is killed or left the country.

Or, there is another option. China (or Russia) give Iran nukes. Iran test those nukes and declare itself a local nuclear power. You f#ck off, and finish your illegal and unprovoked aggression against Iran, accepting Iranian peace terms, because nuclear states don't attack each other directly.

“Accept Iranian peace terms”

Poster means allow Iran to get nukes and commit Holocaust Part Two.

 

[Zavulon]

“Accept Iranian peace terms”

Poster means allow Iran to get nukes and commit Holocaust Part Two.

There won't be Holocaust Part Two if Israel finish their illegal and unprovoked acts of aggression. Iranians are more interested in defending Iranians than in killed Jews. That's how deterrence work. Israel has nukes and Iran won't try to eliminate Israel without very serious reasons.
And, of course, according some estimations, Americans have killed more than 12 mln of Arabs, and Jewish lives are no more valuable than Arabic ones.

 

[Lisa558]

There won't be Holocaust Part Two if Israel finish their illegal and unprovoked acts of aggression. Iranians are more interested in defending Iranians than in killed Jews. That's how deterrence work. Israel has nukes and Iran won't try to eliminate Israel without very serious reasons.

So 1) you’re saying Israel’s acts are unprovoked aggression, but 2) Israel needs to finish the job to keep Iran from committing another Holocaust.

Anyway, I’m done with you. Far too many Islamic terrorist defenders from the UK to bother with. You’re out.

 

[Zavulon]

So 1) you’re saying Israel’s acts are unprovoked aggression, but 2) Israel needs to finish the job to keep Iran from committing another Holocaust.

Iran never committed Holocaust, if you didn't know. Europeans did. And Iran is more interested in protecting Iranians (including Persian Jews) than in killing Jews.

Why do you think, that Jews, Europeans and Americans (say nothing about Russians, Chinamen, Koreans, Indians, Pakistani) should have nukes, and Iran shouldn't?

 

[westwall]

C'mon. Iranians are not subhumans. Their main motivation is self-preservation. They are more interested in protecting Iranians than killing Jews. Therefore, if the Jews follow decisions of UN SC and return into its 1948 borders, highly likely, Russia will defend them.
Both Russia and America have been developing "doomsday weapons" and threatened to kill billions of personally innocent people. And nobody cares.


The EU, fourth Reich, has nukes with specific purpose to wipe out more than twenty million Russians. Do you believe that lives of Jews are more valuable than lives of Russians?
And Iran is much more reliable and responsible member of international community than France, Britain or the USA.

No, their main motivation is the destruction of western civilization.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Do you believe that lives of Jews are more valuable than lives of Russians?

If you are a typical Russian, just about ANY life is more valuable.

 

[Lisa558]

C'mon. Iranians are not subhumans. Their main motivation is self-preservation. They are more interested in protecting Iranians than killing Jews. Therefore, if the Jews follow decisions of UN SC and return into its 1948 borders, highly likely, Russia will defend them.
Both Russia and America have been developing "doomsday weapons" and threatened to kill billions of personally innocent people. And nobody cares.


The EU, fourth Reich, has nukes with specific purpose to wipe out more than twenty million Russians. Do you believe that lives of Jews are more valuable than lives of Russians?
And Iran is much more reliable and responsible member of international community than France, Britain or the USA.

I didn’t say Iranians were subhumans. I said Islamic Terrorists were subhumans.

Big fail on your part.

 

[Lisa558]

Iran never committed Holocaust, if you didn't know. Europeans did. And Iran is more interested in protecting Iranians (including Persian Jews) than in killing Jews.

Why do you think, that Jews, Europeans and Americans (say nothing about Russians, Chinamen, Koreans, Indians, Pakistani) should have nukes, and Iran shouldn't?

Iran wants to protect Iranians?! Then why did it just murder 50,000 of them?

And Iran is run by subhuman Islamic Terrorists who have sworn to the elimination of 7 million Jews. Why should they be allowed to do that?

You’re an antisemitic, anti-American foreigner from the UK. So I’ll speak your language: Piss off.

 

[Zavulon]

No, their main motivation is the destruction of western civilization.

It's simply not true. If they weren't reasonable guys, they couldn't cooperate with Sunni Hezbollah, Atheist North Korea and China, Paganist India and Orthodox Christian Russia. Actually, they were pretty cooperative even with Western countries when it was possible.

 

[westwall]

It's simply not true. If they weren't reasonable guys, they couldn't cooperate with Sunni Hezbollah, Atheist North Korea and China, Paganist India and Orthodox Christian Russia. Actually, they were pretty cooperative even with Western countries when it was possible.

Gosh, who to believe...them, or you.

I'll go with them.

 

[Godboy]

And then, when you have wasted half of your SLBMs on China - Russia will attack your military targets (first of all nuclear bases and silo's) and China will nuke your cities. As result - in one year 90% of US population is killed or left the country.

Or, there is another option. China (or Russia) give Iran nukes. Iran test those nukes and declare itself a local nuclear power. You f#ck off, and finish your illegal and unprovoked aggression against Iran, accepting Iranian peace terms, because nuclear states don't attack each other directly.

Wait, now RUSSIA is joining in a nuclear war too? You must think these nations think very highly of Iran. Apparently they love them so much they are willing to commit suicide for them.

 

[Zavulon]

Iran wants to protect Iranians?! Then why did it just murder 50,000 of them?

To save other 92 mlns of them.

And Iran is run by subhuman Islamic Terrorists who have sworn to the elimination of 7 million Jews. Why should they be allowed to do that?

Terrorism is not what you are. Terrorism is just a tactic of actions. When you have strategic bombers - you drop explosives from the air. When you don't have a strategic bombers - you deliver explosives the way you can. And, comparing with certain groups among radical Evangelists and Zionists, Islam is quite cute and harmless religion.

You’re an antisemitic, anti-American foreigner from the UK. So I’ll speak your language: Piss off.

You are totally wrong (as usually). I'm a half-Jew from Russia, as pro-American and pro-Jewish as it possible in current circumstances, and in my language "piss off" sounds like "otvali".
It's not that I intentionally annoy you, just other users might be interested in other points of view.

 

[Blaster]

And what if nuclear attack on Iran means nuclear retaliation on Israel and the USA?

Are you on drugs?