Nuclear Power Revival In The USA

[elektra]

That's great, but with nukes, it only takes one slip up. I'm pro nuke but there are no room for careless security mistakes, and we know how careless our government can be.

The security is pretty incredible. Plenty of Ex-Military guards carrying automatic weapons. Back at least to the 80's the Nuclear industry would have an elite force, I dont remember if they were active military or not. But they would breach or attempt to breach the nuclear power plants. Pretty cool stories of them coming through sewers or the water intakes. Every which way.

Of course, a newer plant is designed to be more secure, having the advantage of our experience.

All our nuclear power plants have to meet a standard set by laws. Everything is governed by the Code of Federal Regulations. And they are strictly enforced. Audits, inspections, audits, and more audits. We are in pretty good hands when it comes to nuclear power.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yes, Boxer, it was 11 years ago give or take that Boxer shut down San Onofre Nuclear Power Plant in Southern California. So I mention Boxer as being one of those many politicians that destroyed our standard of living by destroying nuclear power's full potential.

How did Boxer do that? She was a Senator so she may have influenced it being shut down, but she doesn't have that power. Doesn't that process involve at least the NRC and possible the Secretary of Energy, none of which you mentioned?

I get your point that DEMS have influenced decisions, but blaming someone for past acts after they are long gone from office seems petty since the decision was so long ago. Perhaps working now to restore the plant is the best course of action now that she is gone. It really is irrelevant since the two lib Senators from California are just as bad if not worse. But Trump controls the DOE now.

What is the status of possible restarting that plant?

 

[elektra]

How did Boxer do that? She was a Senator so she may have influenced it being shut down, but she doesn't have that power. Doesn't that process involve at least the NRC and possible the Secretary of Energy, none of which you mentioned?

I get your point that DEMS have influenced decisions, but blaming someone for past acts after they are long gone from office seems petty since the decision was so long ago. Perhaps working now to restore the plant is the best course of action now that she is gone. It really is irrelevant since the two lib Senators from California are just as bad if not worse. But Trump controls the DOE now.

What is the status of possible restarting that plant?

How? Boxer stuck her political nose into the power plant. I guess not everybody knows that California has stated and began to go green, which means no nuclear power plants. Yes, like so many of our nuclear power plants, the steam generators needed to be replaced. We could of operated the plant forever, at 50% power but there was way too much political pressure not to. There were articles in the papers back then. Articles on the internet. I am sure we talked about it here.

Is it petty of you to pick out Boxer's name and pick a fight? I guess only you can answer that. I get to share what I know. I get to educate you from a perspective you do not have. I worked at San Onofre, I worked for the company that discovered the problems. It was a pretty interesting event. I was literally in the room, looking at the data, evaluating the damage.

California shut down 60% of it's nuclear reactors. For no good reason. A waste for the entire United States, not just us in California. You pay more cause of California, which means people of tha past and the present.

 

[candycorn]

I am suppose to answer your most insane questions you can make up.

You made the statement. You're supposed to have some criteria on which to base your answer

Nuclear power is the dominate power in the world. Technology created in the USA

The democrats have squandered our wealth, our standard of living, by fighting to destroy what is the most valuable source of energy.

You're right about the Democrats being wrong on this one.

Neoplasm? Hahahahaha

Huh?

 

[candycorn]

Nuclear power, what do you want to know. I have worked at 65% of the nuclear power plants in the USA. I have worked at all the Nuclear Power plants. I worked at almost all the Canadian Nuclear plants. I even worked on the Canadian design Nuke in Argentina. Spain, I worked on all their Nukes. England, been there. Brazil, yep, worked there as well.

Navy nukes vs Commercial nukes. You think the Navy has BWR experience? I ask that cause you cant simply say commercial reactors are bigger, they are different designs altogether.

The Navy has essentially, no maintenance experience. The Navy could not run a Nuclear Power Plant outage. Zero experience.

The Navy does next to nothing to their Nuclear power plants. Many countries can not manage Nuclear Power Outages. There is not enough experienced personal. Most Maintenance workers at Nuclear power plants travel from plant to plant.

The Navy, who builds the reactors that the Navy uses? That would be the same company who built one of two Nuclear power plants that melted down in Pennsylvania, Babcox and Wilcox. Or is that BWxt today? Seeings how the old Babcox and Wilcox got sold off to the French. They had to peel off the part of the company doing the Navy work. I was an employee of the old and have worked for the two companies that followed.

Nuclear Power is pretty amazing, I have stood 20' from a nuclear fuel assembly just removed from a reactor. Pretty incredible, they look transparent cause of the radiation, better explained with google than by me. Pretty weird stuff.

• Cherenkov radiation, a blue glow caused by charged particles traveling faster than the speed of light in a medium like water

We'll add your "accomplishments" to other conservative luminaries here who claim to be multi-millionaires, claimed to study medicine at the age of 6, claimed to be living on dividend income after retiring at 46, and (my favorite) say they sang with Dr. Dre. Its always amazes me that every conservative here has such a remarkable life but, amazingly has so much free time to talk about their accomplishments.

When there is a nuclear accident, you may be evacuating people two states over in some cases. Its remarkable energy and the US should be harnessing it. But it can also be quite catastrophic. This isn't an area where you should go with the lowest bidder.

We should insist on there being safeguards in place. The US Navy--despite your insistence that they are suddenly incompetent--has ran nuke vessels for like 60 years now with a remarkable safety record. We should marry that gold standard command and control structure to our nuclear plants and we should expand our nuclear footprint; along with solar and wind. We need to get away from fossil fuels.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

How? Boxer stuck her political nose into the power plant. I guess not everybody knows that California has stated and began to go green, which means no nuclear power plants. Yes, like so many of our nuclear power plants, the steam generators needed to be replaced. We could of operated the plant forever, at 50% power but there was way too much political pressure not to. There were articles in the papers back then. Articles on the internet. I am sure we talked about it here.

Is it petty of you to pick out Boxer's name and pick a fight? I guess only you can answer that. I get to share what I know. I get to educate you from a perspective you do not have. I worked at San Onofre, I worked for the company that discovered the problems. It was a pretty interesting event. I was literally in the room, looking at the data, evaluating the damage.

California shut down 60% of it's nuclear reactors. For no good reason. A waste for the entire United States, not just us in California. You pay more cause of California, which means people of tha past and the present.

Sorry! You said SHE stopped and that is not true. She influenced it. Big difference.

 

[elektra]

Sorry! You said SHE stopped and that is not true. She influenced it. Big difference.

She atopped it. I was there, i was the witness. You spoke of being petty, pretty funny that you are petty yet decided to call me petty then doubled down on being petty.

Yes, Barbra Boxer, California's politicians forced the shutdown of nuclear power in the state.

Boxer and all the other politcians made millions giving our nuclear technology to China.

Now it is our Nuclear revival. It 8s best to know the truth, hopefully it wont happen again. But, there is a lot of ignorance, denial, and petty people so it is a fight

 

[elektra]

When there is a nuclear accident, you may be evacuating people two states over in some cases. Its remarkable energy and the US should be harnessing it. But it can also be quite catastrophic. This isn't an area where you should go with the lowest bidder.

We should insist on there being safeguards in place. The US Navy--despite your insistence that they are suddenly incompetent--has ran nuke vessels for like 60 years now with a remarkable safety record. We should marry that gold standard command and control structure to our nuclear plants and we should expand our nuclear footprint; along with solar and wind. We need to get away from fossil fuels.

So nice of you to make things uo, put words on my mouth, than argue as if I stated what you claim.

You dont know shit about nuclear reactors.

Despite your crazy imagination, you cant show one person in the USA HURT!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

She atopped it. I was there, i was the witness. You spoke of being petty, pretty funny that you are petty yet decided to call me petty then doubled down on being petty.

Yes, Barbra Boxer, California's politicians forced the shutdown of nuclear power in the state.

Boxer and all the other politcians made millions giving our nuclear technology to China.

Now it is our Nuclear revival. It 8s best to know the truth, hopefully it wont happen again. But, there is a lot of ignorance, denial, and petty people so it is a fight

As much as your ill-informed brain might tell you, Boxer had no power in the state of California as she was a United States Senator. Who made the final decision? It certainly was not her. You may know nuclear energy, but you apparently know nothing about government. Your typing skills also suck!

 

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[Lockback]

We'll add your "accomplishments" to other conservative luminaries here who claim to be multi-millionaires, claimed to study medicine at the age of 6, claimed to be living on dividend income after retiring at 46, and (my favorite) say they sang with Dr. Dre. Its always amazes me that every conservative here has such a remarkable life but, amazingly has so much free time to talk about their accomplishments.

When there is a nuclear accident, you may be evacuating people two states over in some cases. Its remarkable energy and the US should be harnessing it. But it can also be quite catastrophic. This isn't an area where you should go with the lowest bidder.

We should insist on there being safeguards in place. The US Navy--despite your insistence that they are suddenly incompetent--has ran nuke vessels for like 60 years now with a remarkable safety record. We should marry that gold standard command and control structure to our nuclear plants and we should expand our nuclear footprint; along with solar and wind. We need to get away from fossil fuels.

"Solar and wind! And nuclear Armageddon! Is this guy stuck in 1978?"

 

[elektra]

As much as your ill-informed brain might tell you, Boxer had no power in the state of California as she was a United States Senator.

Strawman argument, which in your case is ex ignorance.

1st, you claim senators have no power in the state they are elected. Does that need a respons?

2nd, Senators do manage nuclear power through The Code of Federal Regulations and the NRC.

Pure Strawman, senators have no power.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Strawman argument, which in your case is ex ignorance.

1st, you claim senators have no power in the state they are elected. Does that need a respons?

2nd, Senators do manage nuclear power through The Code of Federal Regulations and the NRC.

Pure Strawman, senators have no power.

As far as the state's government, no they don't. did you take a class in civics or government in high school?

Total and complete bullshit on your 2nd point. Show me this power in the references you claim. It is not there, dumbass!

Why did you suddenly change from fantasy to reality in your last comment?

 

[elektra]

As far as the state's government, no they don't. did you take a class in civics or government in high school?

Total and complete bullshit on your 2nd point. Show me this power in the references you claim. It is not there, dumbass!

Why did you suddenly change from fantasy to reality in your last comment?

I was there, physically. I work in the industry.

A senator has more power than you can obviously comprehend.

Shutting down San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station was political. Nothing more.

Yes, Congress manages Nuclear Power.

 

[elektra]

As far as the state's government, no they don't. did you take a class in civics or government in high school?

Feel free to quote your civic's book anytime you like.

 

[elektra]

As far as the state's government, no they don't. did you take a class in civics or government in high school?

Total and complete bullshit on your 2nd point. Show me this power in the references you claim. It is not there, dumbass!

Why did you suddenly change from fantasy to reality in your last comment?

Nuclear Power. I spent 25 years working on Nuclear Reactors. I was at the time, an Electrical Power Research Institute Analyst.

I was working for the company that did the inspection that discovered problems at SONGS. I was there, in the room, and on that exact job.

The power of a Californian Senator, is simply a matter of fact.

The NRC accepted this plan—and that’s when Sen. Barbara Boxer (D—Calif.) got involved. She got the Atomic Safety Licensing Board, which has oversight of the NRC, to rule that limiting power output to 70 percent of full power would require a license amendment—a farcical charge in view of the fact that many plants, including SONGS, have limited their power output for various reasons.
The final decision was with the NRC board where the acting chairman, Allison MacFarlane, voted with Boxer, who was holding up her confirmation as chairman; smells like quid pro quo.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I was there, physically. I work in the industry.

A senator has more power than you can obviously comprehend.

Shutting down San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station was political. Nothing more.

Yes, Congress manages Nuclear Power.

I asked you already the source of this "power" and you failed to cite them.

I never said it wasn't political, but you said she did it. That is beyond her power. Someone else actually shut it down. Who was that? If you were there, you should know.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Does Idaho have commercial reactors?

I looked it up, they do not, many test reactors ...

They have only one facility near Arco. Which is near Idaho State University.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Feel free to quote your civic's book anytime you like.

I don't have to. I taught it for many years. You apparently slept through that class. You may be outstanding in your field or work, but you are off-target on this. It was not her decision. She may have influenced it, but she doesn't have that power.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Nuclear Power. I spent 25 years working on Nuclear Reactors. I was at the time, an Electrical Power Research Institute Analyst.

I was working for the company that did the inspection that discovered problems at SONGS. I was there, in the room, and on that exact job.

The power of a Californian Senator, is simply a matter of fact.

The NRC accepted this plan—and that’s when Sen. Barbara Boxer (D—Calif.) got involved. She got the Atomic Safety Licensing Board, which has oversight of the NRC, to rule that limiting power output to 70 percent of full power would require a license amendment—a farcical charge in view of the fact that many plants, including SONGS, have limited their power output for various reasons.
The final decision was with the NRC board where the acting chairman, Allison MacFarlane, voted with Boxer, who was holding up her confirmation as chairman; smells like quid pro quo.

Finally, you quoted the truth. You see, I was right. She may have influenced the decision. but the decision was not hers, a claim you made several times.