Now, Trump wants to charge 14-year-olds as criminals

[Care4all]

Last I heard committing a crime at 14, 15 or 16 does not mean freedom of consequences for the crime.

It does vary by the circumstance, by the crime, and by the state....

My sister's first job out of college, (which was mid school year, because she graduated a semester early) as a Special Education teacher was at a juvenile detention center where they are held, behind bars for their crimes until 18...at 18 there was some kind of process that could take place that could move them to an adult prison, if memory serves...for violent crimes like murder...

There was some kind of point system to earn points for good behavior, for them to earn a release to go and stay at home with their parents or grandparents for a weekend every couple of months or so...as part of their reform. (this wasn't for the extremely violent juveniles there).

She had only one student that was a murderer...he murdered his father who had just beaten his mother to a pulp.

 

[martybegan]

Big Ballz gets beat up by a 14 year old and his girlfriend and now we have to have a police state? Right wing snowflakes are soft as balls and just as sensitive. I would slink home embarrassed if that happened to me. What a wuss.

So he's supposed to start punching a gang of teens and you would be OK with that?

I doubt it.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

IM2

Don't you know that math is racist?
So is reading, speaking standard English and getting a job.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Cases are not all the same. If its determined that it was cold blooded murder with evil intent, yes. But many 14 year olds don't have the understanding or control that an adult has or should have. There is not one age that all kids suddenly understand right from wrong and learn discipline and self control. So the law needs to accommodate for this and require thorough and deep psychiatric evaluation submittable as evidence.

Cases are not all the same. If its determined that it was cold blooded murder with evil intent, yes. But many 14 year olds don't have the understanding or control that an adult has or should have.

After some of them get long prison terms, maybe the rest of them will get the message?

 

[citygator]

So he's supposed to start punching a gang of teens and you would be OK with that?

I doubt it.

Calling a bunch of kids a “gang” doesn’t make getting your ass beat by them any more concerning to me. Try some personal responsibility and don’t get beat up by kids.

 

[martybegan]

Calling a bunch of kids a “gang” doesn’t make getting your ass beat by them any more concerning to me. Try some personal responsibility and don’t get beat up by kids.

not a gang, a "gang of kids"

So you approve beating the shit out of some 14 year olds if they attack you?

 

[Doc7505]

So if a 14 year old murders someone, what's the punishment? Go to your room with no tv?

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That's what Democrats are doing.

 

[Zincwarrior]

IM2

Send in the Army!

 

[Crepitus]

Trump posted the following message on Truth Social:

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Crime in Washington, D.C., is totally out of control. Local “youths” and gang members, some only 14, 15, and 16-years-old, are randomly attacking, mugging, maiming, and shooting innocent Citizens, at the same time knowing that they will be almost immediately released. They are not afraid of Law Enforcement because they know nothing ever happens to them, but it’s going to happen now! The Law in D.C. must be changed to prosecute these “minors” as adults, and lock them up for a long time, starting at age 14. The most recent victim was beaten mercilessly by local thugs. Washington, D.C., must be safe, clean, and beautiful for all Americans and, importantly, for the World to see. If D.C. doesn’t get its act together, and quickly, we will have no choice but to take Federal control of the City, and run this City how it should be run, and put criminals on notice that they’re not going to get away with it anymore. Perhaps it should have been done a long time ago, then this incredible young man, and so many others, would not have had to go through the horrors of Violent Crime. If this continues, I am going to exert my powers, and FEDERALIZE this City. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

This suggests that not only will anyone that doesn't see (and agree) with Trump "or wants to complain" about his way of thinking, should be put in Jail, including minors.

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You know that's where this is headed.

 

[citygator]

not a gang, a "gang of kids"

So you approve beating the shit out of some 14 year olds if they attack you?

I approve.

 

[Concerned American]

Cases are not all the same. If its determined that it was cold blooded murder with evil intent, yes. But many 14 year olds don't have the understanding or control that an adult has or should have.

After some of them get long prison terms, maybe the rest of them will get the message?

I think there is some validity to sending their parents up too. Ultimately, they are to blame.

 

[martybegan]

I approve.

Bullshit. If he did defend himself you would have bitched about that.

You TDS twats are one trick ponies, and it's a played out trick.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You know that's where this is headed.

Reducing crime, what could be worse than that?

DURR

 

[Zincwarrior]

You know that's where this is headed.

Thats why the Guard is there.

 

[Crepitus]

Reducing crime, what could be worse than that?

DURR

This isn't about crime.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

This isn't about crime.

Punishing teenage criminals isn't about crime?

Tell me more!

 

[YoursTruly]

Q: What do you call a 18 year old in the Hood ?

A: Old Head !

Why do black people call it "da hood?"

Because they can't spell neighbor.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Opening the question up to anyone who disagrees with Trump on this:

What violent crimes do you think are appropriate to provide a 14 year old perpetrator with rehabilitation and release at 18 or 21, instead of lengthy incarceration for the safety of the public?

 

[Nostra]

Trump posted the following message on Truth Social:

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Crime in Washington, D.C., is totally out of control. Local “youths” and gang members, some only 14, 15, and 16-years-old, are randomly attacking, mugging, maiming, and shooting innocent Citizens, at the same time knowing that they will be almost immediately released. They are not afraid of Law Enforcement because they know nothing ever happens to them, but it’s going to happen now! The Law in D.C. must be changed to prosecute these “minors” as adults, and lock them up for a long time, starting at age 14. The most recent victim was beaten mercilessly by local thugs. Washington, D.C., must be safe, clean, and beautiful for all Americans and, importantly, for the World to see. If D.C. doesn’t get its act together, and quickly, we will have no choice but to take Federal control of the City, and run this City how it should be run, and put criminals on notice that they’re not going to get away with it anymore. Perhaps it should have been done a long time ago, then this incredible young man, and so many others, would not have had to go through the horrors of Violent Crime. If this continues, I am going to exert my powers, and FEDERALIZE this City. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

This suggests that not only will anyone that doesn't see (and agree) with Trump "or wants to complain" about his way of thinking, should be put in Jail, including minors.

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[jc456]

What crimes committed by a fourteen year old do you believe reasonably merit rehabilitation and release at age of majority, rather than lengthy incarceration for the safety of the public?

So lucky thinks those mass shooters in schools shouldn’t have been tried