Now Trump wants help from allies, allies fed up with Trump say "no"




"Trump calls for allies to help secure Strait of Hormuz as Iran vows to step up retaliation"

So, Trump went off on one criticizing tradition US allies, like the UK, like Spain (the only two countries to participate in the Iraq War in 2003).

Now he's finding out the consequences to his actions. These allies don't want to join Trump because they think Trump is not the sort of ally you really want.

Just like a fricken liberal: "Oh no, we don't want to do anything, we just want to benefit from all the work others do".
 
Let's be honest, Trump has built a large chunk of his campaign on bad-mouthing America's allies at every possible opportunity. Reap what you sow.....
 



"Trump calls for allies to help secure Strait of Hormuz as Iran vows to step up retaliation"

So, Trump went off on one criticizing tradition US allies, like the UK, like Spain (the only two countries to participate in the Iraq War in 2003).

Now he's finding out the consequences to his actions. These allies don't want to join Trump because they think Trump is not the sort of ally you really want.

If they don't want to help US, then they are not allies.
 
Just like a fricken liberal: "Oh no, we don't want to do anything, we just want to benefit from all the work others do".
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If they don't want to help US, then they are not allies.
Let's turn that around, shall we?

If Trump bad mouths them, if Trump threatens to invade their countries, then we're not allies.

Now Trump wants them to be allies. How ironic is that?
 
Let's turn that around, shall we?

If Trump bad mouths them, if Trump threatens to invade their countries, then we're not allies.

Now Trump wants them to be allies. How ironic is that?
Which country did Trump threaten to invade?
 
The jihadi’s killed 32,000 citizens for protesting

And would kill more if necessary

If thats your fear then get used to bending the knee to muslim wackos either there or here
How many Iranians has the US amd Israel killed so far?

It's interesting that people who scoffed at the idea that morality has a place in foreign policy now all of a sudden try to invoke it when THEIR actions have unforseen and disastrous consequences.

I will argue that neither Trump or you give a flying **** about those 32000 protesters.
 
Which country did Trump threaten to invade?

Greenland (read Denmark) and threatened to annex Canada. Also Cuba, Mexico, Columbia, Venezuela, Nigeria, Yemen, Iran, Iraq and Syria.

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"Trump threatens to take Greenland ‘the hard way’, citing Arctic strategy"


"Trudeau says Trump threat to annex Canada 'is a real thing'"

"Trudeau suggested Trump has floated the idea of taking over Canada and making it the "51st state" because he wants to access the country's critical minerals."

 



"Trump calls for allies to help secure Strait of Hormuz as Iran vows to step up retaliation"

So, Trump went off on one criticizing tradition US allies, like the UK, like Spain (the only two countries to participate in the Iraq War in 2003).

Now he's finding out the consequences to his actions. These allies don't want to join Trump because they think Trump is not the sort of ally you really want.

It has nothing to do with criticism, it has to do with how unpopular it is politically at home in Europe. Since the Iraq war, Europeans have not been interested in war in the M.E at all, the decision to join the U.S would be devastating to ones politics,.even for the right wing there. They do hurt their relationship with america and Israel but it is not as.damaging at home politically. Ultimately, China is hoping America wastes resources there so they can walk into Taiwan under Trumps.term, nothing would be more powerful a message to the CCP within their own country. Trump focusing on defeating China was quite popular, the Neo Cons who wanted war against Iran for 40 years, including Bolton, now suddenly say in interivews that it is not going as they had planned. I would have hoped the C.I.A were years ahead in terms of recruiting from the opposition so that Iran could be free. With the elderly Ayatollah gone it is difficult to see.
 
It has nothing to do with criticism, it has to do with how unpopular it is politically at home in Europe. Since the Iraq war, Europeans have not been interested in war in the M.E at all, the decision to join the U.S would be devastating to ones politics,.even for the right wing there. They do hurt their relationship with america and Israel but it is not as.damaging at home politically. Ultimately, China is hoping America wastes resources there so they can walk into Taiwan under Trumps.term, nothing would be more powerful a message to the CCP within their own country. Trump focusing on defeating China was quite popular, the Neo Cons who wanted war against Iran for 40 years, including Bolton, now suddenly say in interivews that it is not going as they had planned. I would have hoped the C.I.A were years ahead in terms of recruiting from the opposition so that Iran could be free. With the elderly Ayatollah gone it is difficult to see.

Imagine someone calls you names and criticizes you. Would you be inclined to help? Nope.

I'm sure there are other factors, but a big one is Trump being a dickhead.
 
Imagine someone calls you names and criticizes you. Would you be inclined to help? Nope.

I'm sure there are other factors, but a big one is Trump being a dickhead.
They happily take Ukraine support, right? These Europeans are career politicians, the names do not matter as long as they get Americas donation. It is all about the politics of survival and now that Trump lost his record for the one president who did not start any new wars, they believe the best approach is to avoid the M.E and preserve their voting blocs. Europe has changed demographically, USA will always be alone in the M.E now as Europe is not the same continent of 25 years ago. Canada has been promoting anti-Americanism for decades, your politicians still bend the knee for us, it is wha Establishment politicians do. Europe is no different.
 
They happily take Ukraine support, right? These Europeans are career politicians, the names do not matter as long as they get Americas donation. It is all about the politics of survival and now that Trump lost his record for the one president who did not start any new wars, they believe the best approach is to avoid the M.E and preserve their voting blocs. Europe has changed demographically, USA will always be alone in the M.E now as Europe is not the same continent of 25 years ago. Canada has been promoting anti-Americanism for decades, your politicians still bend the knee for us, it is wha Establishment politicians do. Europe is no different.

Well, these countries aren't taking Ukrainian support. They're supporting the Ukraine and the US is supporting the Ukraine. Ukraine gets the support of those countries.

And Trump's "Ukraine support" has been rather "one week support, next week giving Russia everything it wants".
 
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How many Iranians has the US amd Israel killed so far?

It's interesting that people who scoffed at the idea that morality has a place in foreign policy now all of a sudden try to invoke it when THEIR actions have unforseen and disastrous consequences.

I will argue that neither Trump or you give a flying **** about those 32000 protesters.
Not very many, and since they were jihidi’s’, we obviously have not killed nearly enough yet

And not for the sake of the sane Iranians who want the caliphate ended, but for the sake of world peace
 
Those pictures are mocking deniers like you

The assassination attempt was real and almost succeeded
Not only that, but when libs think about it they wish trump was dead and never made it back the the white house again
 
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