Now is a good time to talk about what the Supreme Court is, and what it's not

[Wolfstrike]

What is wrong with America is we only had 2 Americans who vote correctly on the Supreme Court, and one of them just dropped dead.

The left side is a coalition of Socialists , with loyalty to a foreign form of government , and no regard for what the Constitution says. The rest of the so-called conservative justices have no clue what their job is, and no intention of angering the establishment.

James Madison originally intended the Supreme Court to have, what they call, judicial review, the ability to get involved with states and strike down (not uphold) laws that were considered unconstitutional.

Foreseeing all the problems we have today, early Americans rejected the idea of the Supreme Court interfering with state law, and the court had to be invited by the state to get involved. Regardless, states respected Federal principles.

James Madison giving the Supreme Court judicial review would not have been a bad thing, if the government was run as designed.

Even though the Supreme Court is a one of three , equal branch of government , the name is misleading. The Supreme Court was never created to be the supreme power of the land, as a matter of fact, the founders of the nation never intended to make a building for the Supreme Court, because their role was insignificant.

The job of the Supreme Court is the easiest. Their job is to review the Constitution and strike down laws that infringe on the public's basic rights. If the Federal government is not given the power, it can not uphold that Federal law.

An example is abortion. The only government laws regarding abortion are the ones that state a person can not be executed without a properly run trial. The federal government has no authority to legalize abortion on a federal level or allow states to legalize murder.

According to the founders, the final guardian of liberty is not the Supreme Court, but the President. As equal branches of government , the Congress, the Supreme Court, or the President have the power to strike down or ignore an unconstitutional ruling. It's important to note, "strike down" , not create laws by upholding. Laws aren't supposed to come to the Supreme Court, unless they are highly popular with the public and have risen through the legal system.



Socialists support the federalization of America and the empowerment of the Supreme Court because it removes power from the public and hands it to the few. The way things work today, a Socialist legal organization raises a legal issues, and a coalition of Socialist judges approve it, with no regard for the Constitution. The whole process now bypasses the public.

Just the fact we have "left" and "right" judges on the Supreme Court means the system is corrupt. They are supposed to vote the way the Constitution says, not along party lines.

 

[Disgruntled_American]

What is wrong with America is we only had 2 Americans who vote correctly on the Supreme Court, and one of them just dropped dead.

The left side is a coalition of Socialists , with loyalty to a foreign form of government , and no regard for what the Constitution says. The rest of the so-called conservative justices have no clue what their job is, and no intention of angering the establishment.

James Madison originally intended the Supreme Court to have, what they call, judicial review, the ability to get involved with states and strike down (not uphold) laws that were considered unconstitutional.

Foreseeing all the problems we have today, early Americans rejected the idea of the Supreme Court interfering with state law, and the court had to be invited by the state to get involved. Regardless, states respected Federal principles.

James Madison giving the Supreme Court judicial review would not have been a bad thing, if the government was run as designed.

Even though the Supreme Court is a one of three , equal branch of government , the name is misleading. The Supreme Court was never created to be the supreme power of the land, as a matter of fact, the founders of the nation never intended to make a building for the Supreme Court, because their role was insignificant.

The job of the Supreme Court is the easiest. Their job is to review the Constitution and strike down laws that infringe on the public's basic rights. If the Federal government is not given the power, it can not uphold that Federal law.

An example is abortion. The only government laws regarding abortion are the ones that state a person can not be executed without a properly run trial. The federal government has no authority to legalize abortion on a federal level or allow states to legalize murder.

According to the founders, the final guardian of liberty is not the Supreme Court, but the President. As equal branches of government , the Congress, the Supreme Court, or the President have the power to strike down or ignore an unconstitutional ruling. It's important to note, "strike down" , not create laws by upholding. Laws aren't supposed to come to the Supreme Court, unless they are highly popular with the public and have risen through the legal system.



Socialists support the federalization of America and the empowerment of the Supreme Court because it removes power from the public and hands it to the few. The way things work today, a Socialist legal organization raises a legal issues, and a coalition of Socialist judges approve it, with no regard for the Constitution. The whole process now bypasses the public.

Just the fact we have "left" and "right" judges on the Supreme Court means the system is corrupt. They are supposed to vote the way the Constitution says, not along party lines.

Translation: "I don't agree with the SCOTUS rulings so I'm going to throw a temper tantrum but when they make decisions I like they are just and their rulings should be followed".

Just saving time for folks to not have to read that long winded comment and get the gist of it instead. Consider it a public service.

 

[Valerie]

"we only had 2 Americans who vote correctly on the Supreme Court, and one of them just dropped dead."



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[Valerie]

The job of the Supreme Court is the easiest. Their job is to review the Constitution and strike down laws that infringe on the public's basic rights. If the Federal government is not given the power, it can not uphold that Federal law.



An example is abortion. The only government laws regarding abortion are the ones that state a person can not be executed without a properly run trial. The federal government has no authority to legalize abortion on a federal level or allow states to legalize murder.

you got that backwards...

abortion laws were suddenly initiated in states after being a non political issue for over a hundred years in this country, and eventually finally got struck down by scotus when jane doe challenged wade county texas and fought for her right to reproductive privacy against state laws...




Roe v. Wade (1973) ruled unconstitutional a state law that banned abortions...

In a 7-2 decision written by Justice Harry Blackmun (who was chosen because of his prior experience as counsel to the Mayo Clinic), the Court ruled that the Texas statute violated Jane Roe's constitutional right to privacy. The Court argued that the Constitution's First, Fourth, Ninth, and Fourteenth Amendments protect an individual's "zone of privacy" against state laws...

Because abortions lie within a pregnant woman's "zone of privacy," the abortion decision "and its effectuation" are fundamental rights that are protected by the Constitution from regulation by the states...

the Court argued that prenatal life was not within the definition of "persons" as used and protected in the U.S. Constitution and that America's criminal and civil laws only sometimes regard fetuses as persons...

The Supreme Court . Expanding Civil Rights . Landmark Cases . Roe v. Wade (1973) | PBS

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

What is wrong with America is we only had 2 Americans who vote correctly on the Supreme Court, and one of them just dropped dead.

The left side is a coalition of Socialists , with loyalty to a foreign form of government , and no regard for what the Constitution says. The rest of the so-called conservative justices have no clue what their job is, and no intention of angering the establishment.

James Madison originally intended the Supreme Court to have, what they call, judicial review, the ability to get involved with states and strike down (not uphold) laws that were considered unconstitutional.

Foreseeing all the problems we have today, early Americans rejected the idea of the Supreme Court interfering with state law, and the court had to be invited by the state to get involved. Regardless, states respected Federal principles.

James Madison giving the Supreme Court judicial review would not have been a bad thing, if the government was run as designed.

Even though the Supreme Court is a one of three , equal branch of government , the name is misleading. The Supreme Court was never created to be the supreme power of the land, as a matter of fact, the founders of the nation never intended to make a building for the Supreme Court, because their role was insignificant.

The job of the Supreme Court is the easiest. Their job is to review the Constitution and strike down laws that infringe on the public's basic rights. If the Federal government is not given the power, it can not uphold that Federal law.

An example is abortion. The only government laws regarding abortion are the ones that state a person can not be executed without a properly run trial. The federal government has no authority to legalize abortion on a federal level or allow states to legalize murder.

According to the founders, the final guardian of liberty is not the Supreme Court, but the President. As equal branches of government , the Congress, the Supreme Court, or the President have the power to strike down or ignore an unconstitutional ruling. It's important to note, "strike down" , not create laws by upholding. Laws aren't supposed to come to the Supreme Court, unless they are highly popular with the public and have risen through the legal system.



Socialists support the federalization of America and the empowerment of the Supreme Court because it removes power from the public and hands it to the few. The way things work today, a Socialist legal organization raises a legal issues, and a coalition of Socialist judges approve it, with no regard for the Constitution. The whole process now bypasses the public.

Just the fact we have "left" and "right" judges on the Supreme Court means the system is corrupt. They are supposed to vote the way the Constitution says, not along party lines.

This is so comprehensively ignorant and wrong one hardly knows where to start.

But let's review this example of ignorance and stupidity:

“The only government laws regarding abortion are the ones that state a person can not be executed without a properly run trial. The federal government has no authority to legalize abortion on a federal level or allow states to legalize murder.”

Substantive due process as codified by the 14th Amendment prohibits the states from violating a citizen's right to privacy, in the case of abortion by seeking to compel a woman to give birth against her will:

'Constitutional protection of the woman's decision to terminate her pregnancy derives from the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. It declares that no State shall "deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." The controlling word in the case before us is "liberty." Although a literal reading of the Clause might suggest that it governs only the procedures by which a State may deprive persons of liberty, for at least 105 years, at least since Mugler v.Kansas, 123 U.S. 623, 660-661 (1887), the Clause has been understood to contain a substantive component as well, one "barring certain government actions regardless of the fairness of the procedures used to implement them." Daniels v. Williams,474 U.S. 327, 331 (1986).'

Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pa. v. Casey, 505 U.S. 833 (1992)

Consequently it is ignorant and ridiculous to claim that the Federal government has 'legalized abortion,' when in fact it has done no such thing; indeed, the issue of abortion has nothing to do with the Federal government whatsoever.

Instead, the issue concerns the states violating the 14th Amendment right of women to make personal, private decisions absent unwarranted interference by state governments; abortion was not made 'legal' – rather, laws violating a woman's protected liberty were struck down by the Supreme Court appropriately and in a manner consistent with settled, accepted 14th Amendment jurisprudence.

 

[Moonglow]

Now is a good time to talk about what the Supreme Court is, and what it's not

It's not a mosh pit..

 

[Contumacious]

What is wrong with America is we only had 2 Americans who vote correctly on the Supreme Court, and one of them just dropped dead.

The left side is a coalition of Socialists , with loyalty to a foreign form of government , and no regard for what the Constitution says. The rest of the so-called conservative justices have no clue what their job is, and no intention of angering the establishment.

James Madison originally intended the Supreme Court to have, what they call, judicial review, the ability to get involved with states and strike down (not uphold) laws that were considered unconstitutional.

Foreseeing all the problems we have today, early Americans rejected the idea of the Supreme Court interfering with state law, and the court had to be invited by the state to get involved. Regardless, states respected Federal principles.

James Madison giving the Supreme Court judicial review would not have been a bad thing, if the government was run as designed.

Even though the Supreme Court is a one of three , equal branch of government , the name is misleading. The Supreme Court was never created to be the supreme power of the land, as a matter of fact, the founders of the nation never intended to make a building for the Supreme Court, because their role was insignificant.

The job of the Supreme Court is the easiest. Their job is to review the Constitution and strike down laws that infringe on the public's basic rights. If the Federal government is not given the power, it can not uphold that Federal law.

An example is abortion. The only government laws regarding abortion are the ones that state a person can not be executed without a properly run trial. The federal government has no authority to legalize abortion on a federal level or allow states to legalize murder.

According to the founders, the final guardian of liberty is not the Supreme Court, but the President. As equal branches of government , the Congress, the Supreme Court, or the President have the power to strike down or ignore an unconstitutional ruling. It's important to note, "strike down" , not create laws by upholding. Laws aren't supposed to come to the Supreme Court, unless they are highly popular with the public and have risen through the legal system.



Socialists support the federalization of America and the empowerment of the Supreme Court because it removes power from the public and hands it to the few. The way things work today, a Socialist legal organization raises a legal issues, and a coalition of Socialist judges approve it, with no regard for the Constitution. The whole process now bypasses the public.

Just the fact we have "left" and "right" judges on the Supreme Court means the system is corrupt. They are supposed to vote the way the Constitution says, not along party lines.

HISTORICALLY SPEAKING, SCOTUS AS AN ARTICLE III INSTITUTION CEASED TO EXIST IN 1935.

IN ORDER TO PREVENT A CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS THE MAJORITY OF JUSTICES CAVED IN AN ALLOWED FDR'S FASCIST REVOLUTION TO GERMINATE.

THE OBAMA HELLCARE CASE PROVIDED SCOTUS A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY TO RESTORE THE CONSTITUTION (1787). BUT justice Roberts refused.

SO IT APPEARS THAT WE WILL CONTINUE WITHOUT A CONSTITUTION . POLITICAL CORRECTNESS AND FASCISM WILL BE LAW OF THE LAND.


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[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Foreseeing all the problems we have today, early Americans rejected the idea of the Supreme Court interfering with state law, and the court had to be invited by the state to get involved. Regardless, states respected Federal principles."

Wrong again.

“The generation that framed the Constitution presumed that courts would declare void legislation that was repugnant or contrary to the Constitution. They held this presumption because of colonial American practice. By the early seventeenth century, English law subjected the by-laws of corporations to the requirement that they not be repugnant to the laws of the nation. The early English settlements in Virginia and Massachusetts were originally corporations and so these settlements were bound by the principle that colonial legislation could not be repugnant to the laws of England. Under this standard, colonial lawyers appealed approximately 250 cases from colonial courts to the English Privy Council, and the Crown reviewed over 8500 colonial acts.”

Why We Have Judicial Review

It was therefore the original understanding and intent of the Founding Generation that the Supreme Court invalidate state laws and measures in conflict with Constitutional jurisprudence, as authorized by the doctrine of judicial review and Articles III and VI of the Constitution.

 

[Valerie]

"POLITICAL CORRECTNESS AND FASCISM WILL BE LAW OF THE LAND."



^ oh my

 

[Moonglow]

What is wrong with America is we only had 2 Americans who vote correctly on the Supreme Court, and one of them just dropped dead.

The left side is a coalition of Socialists , with loyalty to a foreign form of government , and no regard for what the Constitution says. The rest of the so-called conservative justices have no clue what their job is, and no intention of angering the establishment.

James Madison originally intended the Supreme Court to have, what they call, judicial review, the ability to get involved with states and strike down (not uphold) laws that were considered unconstitutional.

Foreseeing all the problems we have today, early Americans rejected the idea of the Supreme Court interfering with state law, and the court had to be invited by the state to get involved. Regardless, states respected Federal principles.

James Madison giving the Supreme Court judicial review would not have been a bad thing, if the government was run as designed.

Even though the Supreme Court is a one of three , equal branch of government , the name is misleading. The Supreme Court was never created to be the supreme power of the land, as a matter of fact, the founders of the nation never intended to make a building for the Supreme Court, because their role was insignificant.

The job of the Supreme Court is the easiest. Their job is to review the Constitution and strike down laws that infringe on the public's basic rights. If the Federal government is not given the power, it can not uphold that Federal law.

An example is abortion. The only government laws regarding abortion are the ones that state a person can not be executed without a properly run trial. The federal government has no authority to legalize abortion on a federal level or allow states to legalize murder.

According to the founders, the final guardian of liberty is not the Supreme Court, but the President. As equal branches of government , the Congress, the Supreme Court, or the President have the power to strike down or ignore an unconstitutional ruling. It's important to note, "strike down" , not create laws by upholding. Laws aren't supposed to come to the Supreme Court, unless they are highly popular with the public and have risen through the legal system.



Socialists support the federalization of America and the empowerment of the Supreme Court because it removes power from the public and hands it to the few. The way things work today, a Socialist legal organization raises a legal issues, and a coalition of Socialist judges approve it, with no regard for the Constitution. The whole process now bypasses the public.

Just the fact we have "left" and "right" judges on the Supreme Court means the system is corrupt. They are supposed to vote the way the Constitution says, not along party lines.

HISTORICALLY SPEAKING, SCOTUS AS AN ARTICLE III INSTITUTION CEASED TO EXIST IN 1935.

IN ORDER TO PREVENT A CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS THE MAJORITY OF JUSTICES CAVED IN AN ALLOWED FDR'S FASCIST REVOLUTION TO GERMINATE.

THE OBAMA HELLCARE CASE PROVIDED SCOTUS A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY TO RESTORE THE CONSTITUTION (1787). BUT justice Roberts refused.

SO IT APPEARS THAT WE WILL CONTINUE WITHOUT A CONSTITUTION . POLITICAL CORRECTNESS AND FASCISM WILL BE LAW OF THE LAND.


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I can't roll my eyes enough......

 

[Wolfstrike]

this thread is about the supreme court, I will destroy your perverted views on abortion in a different thread